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That's fine. As long as they can admit they were lucky to get a punt and kick return TD in the same game.

Also, at least our QB had the balls to do it in sub-temps.  Their QB was the one who looked like a lame duck.  Champions are defined by plays like this, the never give up mentality.  

 

I can't say the same for Peyton, he was playing not to lose and didn't even give them a chance at a 'lucky' play to win the game.  

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Anyone who thinks it was a terrible play by Flacco either won't admit they were wrong about him, or they've just lost sight of the fact that it brought us from a deficit with seconds to go in our season and saved us.  I mean some people are ignoring the fact that it went from 35-28 with 70 yards to go and no timeouts with the clock moving in the final minute to 35-35 and us still having a chance.  Yeah, let's just throw that out.

 

It was lucky in the sense that it will never happen again and that Rahim Moore didn't play deep enough.  But what else are you going to do in that situation?  You need yards and points in a hurry, so of course you at least take a shot when the play breaks down because you have nothing to lose in that situation.  It was a good enough throw, even if Jacoby had to slow for it.  Joe had pressure in his face, avoided it and saw Jacoby open.  Even if it wasn't a perfect throw, it was still a good enough throw, and it was still a great play.

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Also, at least our QB had the balls to do it in sub-temps.  Their QB was the one who looked like a lame duck.  Champions are defined by plays like this, the never give up mentality.  
 
I can't say the same for Peyton, he was playing not to lose and didn't even give them a chance at a 'lucky' play to win the game.


Pretty much. The ball was probably frozen solid at that point in the night. Temperature and conditions had a big effect on that game. One guy played through, the other shrunk.
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Was it not a lucky call in the Tuck Bowl that allowed Brady to go and win his first championship?  Was it not a lucky tackle after the Bettis fumble that allowed Roethlisberger to win his first?  I guess luck played no part in Peyton's comeback from 18 down against the Pats to go win his title.  I don't even have to mention Eli.  Luck plays a big role in every team's championship run.  The true measure is if your team is good enough to compete and put themselves in a position to get lucky in those big games.  The Ravens have done that every season under Harbaugh and with Flacco.  Last year, luck was certainly on our side, but we by no means should be forced to apologize for that, especially when you take a look at how those breaks fell in the previous seasons.

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How exactly do people get off saying that pass was lucky, blown coverage, and a terrible throw/decision on Flacco's part?

First off, that play isn't anywhere near as lucky as the tuck rule saving the Pats in 2001. It's a football play. Either Joe was going to throw the ball far enough and it was going to be caught, or it wasn't. 

Second, I don't see how it was blown coverage, I don't think anyone of the defense was expecting a bomb on that play. The play I doubt was designed for Rahim to be thinking to look deep as Joe threw it.

Third, and the most frustrating part of it all, is how people bash Joe by saying the throw was bad and should have cost us the game. I believe quite the opposite. First off, the bomb was a brilliant call because they weren't expecting it. Second, it was a good decision because we had no timeouts, we had already used up too much time to dream of driving down the field to score any other way if you think about it, and Jones did get behind the corner and Rahim, though I don't blame him, wasn't quite in position to defend. Here's what gets me: If our offensive line (which played well throughout most of the playoffs I know) had given Joe more than 1 second to stand in the pocket - AGAINST A 3 MAN RUSH? - and Joe hadn't had to run around and then throw the ball while he had all this going on: he had just been running forward to avoid a sack, he had a defender in front of him who was going to either try and hit him or batt the pass down, and so he had to run forward, quickly stop, basically through it off his back foot because he didn't have time to set his feet completely and there was a defender there in front of him. So he had to throw it quickly with little space, so throwing it farther back and behind him was smart because it would have time and space to clear over the top of the defender in front of him. So, keep in mind all of the complicated nonsense going on, he's doing that after been playing and throwing it deep all game, in the coldest game most anyone there had ever played in the the atmospheric conditions of Denver, he had to throw the ball 55 yards in the air despite all these conditions -the cold, the air, fatigue, and no space-time-pocket to throw it, in fact he had to throw it in probably the mot awkward way possible and quickly as possible. So many thing s could have gone wrong, in fact, basically everything did go wrong except one thing: Joe. He managed to throw that ball through all that crap, so here's my final thoughts: If our o line hadn't laid a turd on that play, how much easier and less close would that throw have been? And then, tell me, what other quarterback could make that play? And then do almost the same thing to the same player two weeks later in the Superbowl?

 

Forget Chuck Norris man, Flacco's a stud.

 

It was the right decision - you can see him looking right at Jacoby and that he sees Jacoby has a step on his man before he winds up to throw.  And it definitely wasn't a desperation bomb - Joe routinely throws passes that deep.  His desperation passes IMO would travel well over 60 yards through the air.  It's just a bunch of upset Denver fans trying to rationalize the fact that they lost.

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Because Denver fans (and all other fans) are ( not nice) hurt that the Ravens beat Manning in his own stadium. That's why they say it was a bad throw, or a blown coverage, or whatever. They're just salty.

Who cares what they say anyway?

Speaking of which, the Denver Fans are trying to say the REFs gave us the game. LOLOL really???

Because from my understanding, the NFL, MEDIA, Refs all wanted a MANNING VS BRADY In the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP, so nothing was given to us. We took it.
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It was the right decision - you can see him looking right at Jacoby and that he sees Jacoby has a step on his man before he winds up to throw.  And it definitely wasn't a desperation bomb - Joe routinely throws passes that deep.  His desperation passes IMO would travel well over 60 yards through the air.  It's just a bunch of upset Denver fans trying to rationalize the fact that they lost.

 

 

Flacco can throw it upto 80 YDS,  he has Thee strongest arm in the NFL. He blows Rodgers out the door Easily.

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Anytime Joe is a major factor in the play being made, the pundits always try to explain why it was great in spite of him rather than because of him.

 

One thing that ticked me off was the Top 100 plays list, I think the Ravens made 3 entries that were all brilliant plays by the receiver/RB rather than the QB. It just seems like they'll do anything to overlook/suppress the fact that Joe can make huge, athletic plays.

 

For example: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/0ap2000000116487/QB-Flacco-to-TE-Pitta-36-yd-pass

 

How was this play left off the list? It's amazing, one of the best I saw all year. Not only did he avoid the pass rushers but he hurled it into triple coverage for the completion. But that's the NFL for you, no credit for the guys that don't fit the bill of marketable "poster boy".

 

/rant

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It will always be known to me as The F-Bomb. Because The Mighty Joe Flacco did the following...
 
1) Say "F- it, I'm going deep"
2) He threw the ball 60 or so yards as it shot through the sky like a missle
3) Because he's a beast!
 
Screw all the haters! The only lucky thing to happen in the NFL the last two years is Lee Evans and Billy Cundiff betraying us.

epic title and this is what im calling it!
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Flacco can throw it upto 80 YDS,  he has Thee strongest arm in the NFL. He blows Rodgers out the door Easily.

Lets not go overboard.

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Lets not go overboard.

 

 

He threw  83-84 yd in a rookie QB contest that had Matt Ryan in it also when he was a Rookie.

 

Everyone else barely got to 70 yds

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I think most of you would admit that under the same conditions that play is broken up more often than not.  And even though I am not a fan, I will agree that flacco has an outstanding arm.  But there are other qbs in the league who could make that throw, and he did step into it, it wasn't off his back foot as some are claiming. For the most part, when something like this play happens, the fans of the team on the losing end are most likely going to feel that the other team got lucky. Human nature.

 

 

Umm, he threw it on the run. Nuff said.

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He threw 83-84 yd in a rookie QB contest that had Matt Ryan in it also when he was a Rookie.

Everyone else barely got to 70 yds


Here you are again...off with info. Ha

74 yards dude.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fa_GrbdcjY

 

I remember that - and I also remember he seemed to think he didn't get enough of a tight spiral, otherwise it would have gone further. 

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Here you are again...off with info. Ha

74 yards dude.

 

 

lol,

 

Geez, im going back almost 6 yrs. I didnt go and look it up. I was going off of memory. Think i was close enough.

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I think most of you would admit that under the same conditions that play is broken up more often than not.  And even though I am not a fan, I will agree that flacco has an outstanding arm.  But there are other qbs in the league who could make that throw, and he did step into it, it wasn't off his back foot as some are claiming. For the most part, when something like this play happens, the fans of the team on the losing end are most likely going to feel that the other team got lucky. Human nature.

he didnt throw off his back foot, but he didnt exactly step into it properly, he was practically mid-scramble because he had to step up so much, and the biggest problem with that throw was he felt the pressure of the rushers hands coming for the ball, and instead of using his proper mechanics, he adjusted on the fly and dropped his throwing hand backwards and WAYY down to avoid the strip, and had to throw it muuuuuch higher than your normal pass, and if he had a strong pocket and no pressure, i think he gets that ball to the goal line and jacoby stays ahead of moore and stays open, but god knows whether he wouldve caught it or not.

just my diagnosis
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Considering the fact that Joe faced a lot of pressure, couldn't set his feet, and couldn't make a good fundamental throw, that pass was just about perfect.

 

There are only a few other QBs who are capable of making that play. I know Manning wouldn't have.

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* Mile High Miracle. Sound way cooler and we gotta stick with one name for it to get the recognition it deserves years from now.

 

I totally see why Rahim Moore mis-judged that ball, Flacco has a cannon and his wr's no that better then anyone.. Moore just didn't anticipate how far Flacco could really launch that ball even under duress. I'm sure he didn't see that kind of arm strength all year in practice from Peyton.

Agree entirely with that assessment.  The fact the ball bore with Flacco throwing with far less than a solid base surprised that safety. He was looking for an Interception to End the Game and what he found was something that surprised him.

 

I'm good with Mile High Miracle, except that I don't believe it was a Miracle. It was Joe Flacco showing off a little bit of his arm. It was certainly a Bigger Play than the "Immaculate Deception"....because after the Deception the Stoolers Lost in the AFC Championship.

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If that throw was just a defensive mistake, then someone needs to tell Joe Montana that "The Catch" was just a defensive mistake too. And let John Elway know that "The Drive" was just a series of bad coverages. 

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I think most of you would admit that under the same conditions that play is broken up more often than not.  And even though I am not a fan, I will agree that flacco has an outstanding arm.  But there are other qbs in the league who could make that throw, and he did step into it, it wasn't off his back foot as some are claiming. For the most part, when something like this play happens, the fans of the team on the losing end are most likely going to feel that the other team got lucky. Human nature.

that play did not win the game it tied it . Peyton , like always in the playoffs threw an interception and we capitalized on it , no holding no Rahim moore no Joe flacco got lucky . Just Peyton doing what Peyton does.
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He threw 83-84 yd in a rookie QB contest that had Matt Ryan in it also when he was a Rookie.

Everyone else barely got to 70 yds

Yeah but you said strongest in the NFL. That contest doesn't support that theory even if it was true. I would say its pretty hard to determine who has the absolute strongest once it gets to a certain level. That level includes Flacco,Stafford, and Cutler among others like Arod,Vick, and RG3 possibly. I'm interested in seeing your evidence to prove he has a bigger cannon than all of these guys though. I like to brag about Flacco to other teams fans just as much as the next Raven fan, but I don't just go spouting rubbish.
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Yeah but you said strongest in the NFL. That contest doesn't support that theory even if it was true. I would say its pretty hard to determine who has the absolute strongest once it gets to a certain level. That level includes Flacco,Stafford, and Cutler among others like Arod,Vick, and RG3 possibly. I'm interested in seeing your evidence to prove he has a bigger cannon than all of these guys though. I like to brag about Flacco to other teams fans just as much as the next Raven fan, but I don't just go spouting rubbish.


I'm sure all those guys believe they have the strongest arm. We need to get the info from someone who has caught balls from a bunch of these guys, which I don't know exists.
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Im going on record now saying that I hate the name "Rocky Mountain Rainbow".


A. Greed. Cant be PC here, so I wont say anything other then I cant stand the name!
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I like the F-Bomb.  Won't call it by any other name unless I have a momentary lapse of reason and judgment and accidentally call it by one of the more popularly used phrases, but that isn't something I have any intention of doing haha.

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