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Joe Flacco ranked 40th best offensive player in the NFL by ESPN

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They are actually below Flacco, but they are all too low IMO. These QBs are all top 20 players IMO. QB is just a much harder and more important position to play than anything else on the football field. Here are the 9 players directly ahead of Flacco starting with 31: Mike Iupati, Nick Mangold, Duane Brown, Victor Cruz, Demaryius Thomas, Reggie Wayne, Frank Gore, LeSean McCoy, Logan Mankins. They are all good players, but not nearly at the level of Flacco. 

 

I agree. Not one of those guys, singlehandedly, could take a team through the playoffs, by themselves, and win it all, especially being a big underdog almost the entire playoff run. Quarterbacks, however, have this capability if they are talented enough and have a good sense of leadership. This is exactly what Flacco pretty much did with his performance in the playoffs last year. If he had tossed even 1 INT, we may be looking at a whole different team and a different Super Bowl winner at that. Flacco changed our history.

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I never liked the idea of having a Top 100 list of all players. It's more accurate to do a Top 5, 10, or 20 of each position. It's not even fair or accurate to do a Top 100 list of defensive players. It just doesn't work.

 

I agree here as well. DL do much different things than a DB. Ask a DL to cover someone, and most of the time they'll flat out look silly out there. However, ask a DB to line up on the line of scrimmage and stuff a run, and they'll flat out get run over.

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They are actually below Flacco, but they are all too low IMO. These QBs are all top 20 players IMO. QB is just a much harder and more important position to play than anything else on the football field. Here are the 9 players directly ahead of Flacco starting with 31: Mike Iupati, Nick Mangold, Duane Brown, Victor Cruz, Demaryius Thomas, Reggie Wayne, Frank Gore, LeSean McCoy, Logan Mankins. They are all good players, but not nearly at the level of Flacco. 

Seriously? Mangold, Gore, Cruz and Wayne? I mean at least the other guys are top 5 at their positions (Mangold is too, but he is a friggin' center!)

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They are actually below Flacco, but they are all too low IMO. These QBs are all top 20 players IMO. QB is just a much harder and more important position to play than anything else on the football field. Here are the 9 players directly ahead of Flacco starting with 31: Mike Iupati, Nick Mangold, Duane Brown, Victor Cruz, Demaryius Thomas, Reggie Wayne, Frank Gore, LeSean McCoy, Logan Mankins. They are all good players, but not nearly at the level of Flacco.

Ah. Okay. There have been so many lists recently I must be confusing some of them. Still, some of those guys make sense but some of them are real head scratchers.
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How do you explain guys like RG3, Luck, Wilson, Kaepernick, etc of whom I believe are all above Flacco. I dint necessarily disagree with the notion but I do disagree with some of these names ahead of Joe, especially with your criteria.


They are below Flacco, but all bunched together with him. There appears to be a big gap between that group and the next QB (it will be at least 10 spots). It just shows you the "class" of QB they feel Flacco is. He's not mixed in with Ryan, Eli, Roeth, but rather a bunch of guys going into their second year (or less) as starter.
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It is an absolutely incredulous, 'in your face' and preposterous ranking I have come across. This elevates the disrespect for Flacco to whole new level in my view.

 

Here is ESPN's explanation of Flacco after ranking him 40th:

 

"Flacco tied Joe Montana's record for most touchdowns without an interception in a single postseason (11). Since 2008, Flacco has won 63 games, including the regular season and playoffs. That is six more than anyone else over that same span".

 

And yet the fools rank him 40th best offensive player? Really?

 

I understand there are other Joe Flacco threads out there, but, I believe this deserves to stand on its own.

No big deal. #1) The PLAYERS, PLAAAAAYERS, ranked Joe higher than that in the top 100. #2) Jaws put Flacco at #4 on his QB list. #3) You are putting stock in an ESPN list. These are the same guys who are paying Skip Bayless for his views on NFL football......bwahahahahahaha!

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[quote name="beanfigger" post="1556795" timestamp="1377716087"]
They are below Flacco, but all bunched together with him. There appears to be a big gap between that group and the next QB (it will be at least 10 spots). It just shows you the "class" of QB they feel Flacco is. He's not mixed in with Ryan, Eli, Roeth, but rather a bunch of guys going into their second year (or less) as starter.[/quote]Yeah, I saw that. Already had it pointed out to me. I must have confused it with another list.
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Yeah, I saw that. Already had it pointed out to me. I must have confused it with another list.


I know, I was just pointing out that you weren't too far off.
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I know, I was just pointing out that you weren't too far off.

Ahhh. Okay. My bad. Kind of confused today. Had a long one. Just left work. Thanks.

I remembered hearing something this morning about this and I guess another list as pointed out to me by 105.7.
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40 is a bit to low thinking prob around early 20's.  It says offensive player, not QB, if it was 40 best QB id go irate, but you half to think of all the RB's, WR's, fellow QB's, and their are even some explosive TE's out there. We saying Flacco is a better offensive player than Ray Rice? cause rayray does, and can do everything and anything. Early 20's is where i have him 

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As for the ranking, I really could care less. I don't care what anyone thinks of any player on the team. I especially don't care about a sports analyst who's paid money to create drama and conflict and spark debate. It's really no big deal to me. They could put Flacco at 32 out of 32 starting QB with Sanchez, Gabbert and Weeden above him and I wouldn't care.
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