Joe Flacco ranked 40th best offensive player in the NFL by ESPN

[ellicottraven]

It is an absolutely incredulous, 'in your face' and preposterous ranking I have come across. This elevates the disrespect for Flacco to whole new level in my view.

 

Here is ESPN's explanation of Flacco after ranking him 40th:

 

"Flacco tied Joe Montana's record for most touchdowns without an interception in a single postseason (11). Since 2008, Flacco has won 63 games, including the regular season and playoffs. That is six more than anyone else over that same span".

 

And yet the fools rank him 40th best offensive player? Really?

 

I understand there are other Joe Flacco threads out there, but, I believe this deserves to stand on its own.

[Ravenslifer]

From ESPN, I'd consider that high praise for Joe.

[ratedr]

Meh.

ESPN is just bandwagoning on the NFL top 100 thing. Not sure anyone cares about their list. I know I don't.

[Alexir]

40 isn't good?

 

When you think of all the great offensive linemen, wide receivers, running backs, and tight ends as well as you know at least 4 qbs are higher. I think the 40 mark is about right.

[codizzle]

40 seems fine to me...
He still has a lot to prove if he wants to be respected by stat friendly rankings

[codizzle]

Hairball is ranked #33 on defense side...

Just ewww

[K-Dog]

Again.

STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO THE MEDIA! !!!

[codizzle]

Again.

STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO THE MEDIA! !!!

Easy.. Breathe in

[SecretAgentMan]

BOYCOTT THE MEDIA!

 

Let's do it.

 

We are riding 53 men to the appocolypse( and those 53 are boycotting the media as well)

 

Sign up now.

 

SAM

[Ravenseconbeast]

Another flacco homer whine thread every once a week. I figured someone would ake the troll bait and whine about it.

[The Raven]

Another flacco homer whine thread every once a week. I figured someone would ake the troll bait and whine about it.

 

Seriously dude do you ever have something positive or pro-Ravens to contribute?

[Ravenseconbeast]

Another flacco homer whine thread every once a week. I figured someone would take the troll bait and whine about it.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Seriously dude do you ever have something positive or pro-Ravens to contribute?

I do all the time.

[beanfigger]

40 isn't good?

 

When you think of all the great offensive linemen, wide receivers, running backs, and tight ends as well as you know at least 4 qbs are higher. I think the 40 mark is about right.

 

It looks as though at least 7 QBs are going to be ranked higher.  I'm glad that they don't have any of the second year starters ahead of him, though they are, literally, ranked right behind him.  It just shows what group they feel he's in.  Ryan, Eli and Ben will be ranked closer to the top 4 guys, while Flacco is well behind with Luck, Wilson, Griffin and Kaepernick ready to push right by him, in their minds.

[gabefergy]

40 isn't good?

When you think of all the great offensive linemen, wide receivers, running backs, and tight ends as well as you know at least 4 qbs are higher. I think the 40 mark is about right.

QB should be the highest rated position, period. He should be in the top 10. Only 5-6 QBs ahead of him with maybe Megatron and AD as well.

[flynismo]

40 isn't good?

 

When you think of all the great offensive linemen, wide receivers, running backs, and tight ends as well as you know at least 4 qbs are higher. I think the 40 mark is about right.

 

It's a good point, but I think that since no position affects the game like the QB does (and it isn't even close), they should weigh heavier than the other positions.

Granted, it is hard to compare, for example, Flacco and Yanda. You can make the argument that you can only make a reasonable case for 2 - 3 OG being better than Yanda, but you can make a reasonable argument that there are 5 or 6 QBs better than Flacco. But that doesn't make Yanda a better offensive player than Flacco. Since Flacco and Yanda are both near the top of their respective positions, Flacco get the nod because he has a much bigger impact on the game.

 

I have no idea where I'd personally rank Flacco, but at first glance, I'd say he is a top 5 QB. Peterson and Megatron are so much better than the other RB and WR that they are the only exceptions I would make for the "QB carrying more weight" rule, and I would put them both above Flacco (which sounds weird to me, because if I were building a team from scratch, I would take Flacco over either of them). Other than that, I really cant see anyone else out there who I can rank higher. So at worst, my first glance says Flacco should be top 10.

 

I'd be real interested to see all these people they rank ahead of him.

[SecretAgentMan]

It's a good point, but I think that since no position affects the game like the QB does (and it isn't even close), they should weigh heavier than the other positions.
Granted, it is hard to compare, for example, Flacco and Yanda. You can make the argument that you can only make a reasonable case for 2 - 3 OG being better than Yanda, but you can make a reasonable argument that there are 5 or 6 QBs better than Flacco. But that doesn't make Yanda a better offensive player than Flacco. Since Flacco and Yanda are both near the top of their respective positions, Flacco get the nod because he has a much bigger impact on the game.

I have no idea where I'd personally rank Flacco, but at first glance, I'd say he is a top 5 QB. Peterson and Megatron are so much better than the other RB and WR that they are the only exceptions I would make for the "QB carrying more weight" rule, and I would put them both above Flacco (which sounds weird to me, because if I were building a team from scratch, I would take Flacco over either of them). Other than that, I really cant see anyone else out there who I can rank higher. So at worst, my first glance says Flacco should be top 10.

I'd be real interested to see all these people they rank ahead of him.

Watch Andrew Luck be there :P

[flynismo]

QB should be the highest rated position, period. He should be in the top 10. Only 5-6 QBs ahead of him with maybe Megatron and AD as well.

 

If I saw this, I wouldnt have bothered typing out my response above. Agreed though, I cannot see how Flacco is not a top 10 offensive player.

[usmccharles]

If I saw this, I wouldnt have bothered typing out my response above. Agreed though, I cannot see how Flacco is not a top 10 offensive player.

I can, pretty easily actually.  I could name off several offensive players that should and are ranked above him.. Dont get me wrong, ive always been a Joe supporter and always will be and his post season was nothing less then a historic performance.  the problem is thats not the Joe we see all season long, which im hoping that changes.  Joe isnt a guy that will put up monster numbers and im fine with that and of course a lot of people will point to our defense being responsible for wins in his early years.  I make this argument all the time....Id rather have a guy that steps up in the playoffs and wins then a guy that is a monster in the regular season and barely wins playoff games ie peyton, ryan, romo, etc...

[t45]

_{All of these ESPN Ratings they need a " choker rating " and put the " greats " in check. Manning has a perfect " choker rating " of 100 , and on and on}

[Hardbaugh]

Actually Flacco did better than I thought he would on ESPN.

 

Espn plays for ratings that's why we get a heavy dose of anything Steelers, N.E., NYG, Dallas, Peyton Manning and the other chosen franchises.

 

It's great to see Foxsports 1, more than likely ESPN will now have to raise their game from the usual garbage they put out.

[PurpleCorsair]

The ranking is misleading. As some have already stated: is Joe a better QB than Julio Jones is a WR? Is Joe a better QB than Jason Witten is a TE? Is Joe a better QB than Arian Foster a RB? These questions are difficult to answer with just a simple ranking.

[Alexir]

QB should be the highest rated position, period. He should be in the top 10. Only 5-6 QBs ahead of him with maybe Megatron and AD as well.

 

No. If you take the top 5 out of every position, that is how it should be done. QB is very important but I would put Ray Rice higher than Flacco because he has performed at a higher level more consistently. I would put Marshal Yanda ahead of Flacco because he is the best guard in the NFL. You don't go putting all QB's in the top 10 who don't merit the recognition. There are a lot of great offensive players that deserve to be higher, Flacco at 40 is fine.

[Alexir]

If I saw this, I wouldnt have bothered typing out my response above. Agreed though, I cannot see how Flacco is not a top 10 offensive player.

 

Rodgers, Brees, Brady, Manning, Adrian Peterson, Arian Foster, Calvin Johnson, Jimmy Graham, Joe Thomas, Yanda.

 

10 guys right there who I would easily put in the top 10.

[berad]

I'm having trouble getting riled up. Must be that Super Bowl hangover everyone talks about

[Militant X 1]

I'm having trouble getting riled up. Must be that Super Bowl hangover everyone talks about

same here B. Everyone out there can just kiss the ring!

~Mili

[gabefergy]

No. If you take the top 5 out of every position, that is how it should be done. QB is very important but I would put Ray Rice higher than Flacco because he has performed at a higher level more consistently. I would put Marshal Yanda ahead of Flacco because he is the best guard in the NFL. You don't go putting all QB's in the top 10 who don't merit the recognition. There are a lot of great offensive players that deserve to be higher, Flacco at 40 is fine.

Well Yanda is like 63 or something on this list. But I completely disagree with you. The Browns have had the best LT in football for years, and look at what it has gotten them. I think QBs should be in the top 10 because they are hands down the best players on the field. Flacco at 40 is a joke.

[GrimCoconut]

No. If you take the top 5 out of every position, that is how it should be done. QB is very important but I would put Ray Rice higher than Flacco because he has performed at a higher level more consistently. I would put Marshal Yanda ahead of Flacco because he is the best guard in the NFL. You don't go putting all QB's in the top 10 who don't merit the recognition. There are a lot of great offensive players that deserve to be higher, Flacco at 40 is fine.

How do you explain guys like RG3, Luck, Wilson, Kaepernick, etc of whom I believe are all above Flacco. I dint necessarily disagree with the notion but I do disagree with some of these names ahead of Joe, especially with your criteria.

[gabefergy]

How do you explain guys like RG3, Luck, Wilson, Kaepernick, etc of whom I believe are all above Flacco. I dint necessarily disagree with the notion but I do disagree with some of these names ahead of Joe, especially with your criteria.

They are actually below Flacco, but they are all too low IMO. These QBs are all top 20 players IMO. QB is just a much harder and more important position to play than anything else on the football field. Here are the 9 players directly ahead of Flacco starting with 31: Mike Iupati, Nick Mangold, Duane Brown, Victor Cruz, Demaryius Thomas, Reggie Wayne, Frank Gore, LeSean McCoy, Logan Mankins. They are all good players, but not nearly at the level of Flacco. 

[The Raven]

I never liked the idea of having a Top 100 list of all players. It's more accurate to do a Top 5, 10, or 20 of each position. It's not even fair or accurate to do a Top 100 list of defensive players. It just doesn't work.