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I just find it very superficial to claim that if we take away the 2 special teams TD in that playoff game, it should mean that the Broncos would ahve scored only 21 pts. The manner in which their offense was working, nothing suggests that, without those 'gifts', they wouldn't have scored points on the two possessions.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ1NaUUu8Ng

 

 

I realize that life is all about perspective and values, etc., but how do you guys react to this video? I mean, yes, as with the 49er fans like myself, you can retort with backlashes constituting 'sour grapes' and 'whining', but that doesn't disprove anything when looking at things for their isolated merits. Can anyone just say, 'we got some breaks, but we'll take it' (instead of insisting Smith was clean on that last SB play!). The Ravens being called 'cheaters' and allusions of 'fixes' (a title with the Broncos getting 'screwed' is unfair - it connotes something purposed) is ludicrous, IMHO. I mean, a fan lives with a victory comfortably - goodness, even Diego Maradona's infamous 'hand of God' (I'm sure Ray Lewis relates to that!) goal against England was justified by some Argentinian nationals by voicing out their humiliation over the 1982 war with England over the Falklands!

 

I'm sorry, but in the SB, Torrey Smith without even the slightest question shoved - with both hands - Chris Culliver, yet they called Culliver for his subsequent reaction (ie, it would not be offsetting penalties if called properly) in grabbing the jersey of Smith. That was huge under the circumstances of the game (31-29 Ravens, 3rd down deep in their own territory), surely not a ticky-tacky call if made. In the game against Denver, I think the PI call in the video I provided was not bogus because even though the ball looked uncatchable (the argument against the PI called), Doss was interfered with enough by Carter to impede the former to keep him far away enough from the ball to make it look uncatchable - and what justifies this is that the ball wasn't being thrown away, landing along the sideline (odds are a catch would have been difficult without the interference, but great throw by Flacco!). The same can be said for that last Smith/Crabtree play in the SB; Smith clearly grabbed Crabtree with both hands squeezed on his sides (Crabtree's arm was on Smith's helmet, I think, simply because Smith is much shorter; that was incidental, and Crabtree was going for the ball, not trying to 'stop' Smith in some manner), and a seemingly uncathable ball was so because Crabtree was held up (the falling ball can be seen in a still just 2-3 ft from Crabtree's outstretched hands). Again, a catch was possible if unimpeded, but staying in bounds? Doubtful, for any receiver not named Calvin Johnson. But that call may come 7 out of 10 times otherwise, but I guess just not be made in that circumstance in a SB, albeit apologist for officiating like Pereira - as he did in the Denver game - will attempt a 'scientific' explanantion in the standing calls' favor (why the officials did not call the Ravens for purposely penalizing several 49ers on the last safety play is puzzling. It's still a professional climate; the free kick should have been from the 10, not the 20, meaning a 65-70 or so FG attempt would have been possible; abberrational, but a team deserves the chance if the penalty was called. Sorry - it's just weird!). That opening call against the 49ers was ticky-tacky though (nullifying a 20 yd gain, which the illegal formation did not definitely aid), if people want to talk about 'let them play' in the marquee games.

 

But back to the Denver game, amid the INT which Graham returned for a TD was indeed a clear penalty on the WR Decker by Raven no. 23 - and it is the type of penalty I wish officials would not miss: Peyton Manning hit Decker with a well thrown ball (a tad lower would have been perfect), and no. 23 indeed interfered with Decker's arms - no. 23s left arm upon Decker's upper left arm, specifically, surely influencing Decker's inability to catch the ball, which the chances of not happening sans the penalty are very slim. I can just see how Bronco fans are livid, and boy do they want revenge on September 5th!

 

Like I stated, perspective; even on the comments boards in this video they argue over the controversies - one thing I get pickly about, which is also relevant to the SB: where are all the calls and non-calls which went against the Ravens (yes, Flacco was hit out of bounds on that 3rd down play which they then kicked a FG, but it was a dead play anyway, and he was throwing it away; stupid mistake by the defender, and lucky the officials let it go). But in both games - both of which Bronco and 49er fans (including myself) really fell it unusually bad against their teams with bad officiating - where are the numerous calls which the Ravens could claim for an offset?

 

Again, good luck. I checked a few current sports online gambling sites (Bovada was one), and the line still has the Broncos significantly favored by 7 1/2.

 

I don't have the whole game, but the Ravens apparently were not called for 1 penalty, and just 2 in the SB. It's more curiosity than any anger. They were good enough to be no top last year; it's like the Giants the year before - a handful of temas good enough to win it all, and came through when it mattered. Both the Broncos and 49ers showed some abysmal play decisions which seems beneath John Harbaugh.

 

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I just find it very superficial to claim that if we take away the 2 special teams TD in that playoff game, it should mean that the Broncos would ahve scored only 21 pts. The manner in which their offense was working, nothing suggests that, without those 'gifts', they wouldn't have scored points on the two possessions.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ1NaUUu8Ng

 

 

I realize that life is all about perspective and values, etc., but how do you guys react to this video? I mean, yes, as with the 49er fans like myself, you can retort with backlashes constituting 'sour grapes' and 'whining', but that doesn't disprove anything when looking at things for their isolated merits. Can anyone just say, 'we got some breaks, but we'll take it' (instead of insisting Smith was clean on that last SB play!). The Ravens being called 'cheaters' and allusions of 'fixes' (I talked to some Steeler fans here in NYC recently, and they sure hate the Ravens, beyond a regualr 'just a divisional rival' mentality) is ludicrous, IMHO. I mean, a fan lives with a victory comfortably - goodness, even Diego Maradona's infamous 'hand of God' (I'm sure Ray Lewis relates to that!) goal against England was justified by some Argentinian nationals by voicing out their humiliation over the 1982 war with England over the Falklands!

 

I'm sorry, but in the SB, Torrey Smith without even the slightest question shoved - with both hands - Chris Culliver, yet they called Culliver for his subsequent reaction (ie, it would not be offsetting penalties if called properly) in grabbing the jersey of Smith. That was huge under the circumstances of the game (31-29 Ravens, 3rd down deep in their own territory), surely not a ticky-tacky call if made. In the game against Denver, I think the PI call in the video I provided was not bogus because even though the ball looked uncatchable (the argument against the PI called), Doss was interfered with enough by Carter to impede the former to keep him far away enough from the ball to make it look uncatchable - and what justifies this is that the ball wasn't being thrown away, landing along the sideline (odds are a catch would have been difficult without the interference, but great throw by Flacco!). The same can be said for that last Smith/Crabtree play in the SB; Smith clearly grabbed Crabtree with both hands squeezed on his sides (Crabtree's arm was on Smith's helmet, I think, simply because Smith is much shorter; that was incidental, and Crabtree was going for the ball, not trying to 'stop' Smith in some manner), and a seemingly uncathable ball was so because Crabtree was held up (the falling ball can be seen in a still just 2-3 ft from Crabtree's outstretched hands). Again, a catch was possible if unimpeded, but staying in bounds? Doubtful, for any receiver not named Calvin Johnson. But that call may come 7 out of 10 times otherwise, but I guess just not be made in that circumstance in a SB, albeit apologist for officiating like Pereira - as he did in the Denver game - will attempt a 'scientific' explanantion in the standing calls' favor (why the officials did not call the Ravens for purposely penalizing several 49ers on the last safety play is puzzling. It's still a professional climate; the free kick should have been from the 10, not the 20, meaning a 65-70 or so FG attempt would have been possible; abberrational, but a team deserves the chance if the penalty was called. Sorry - it's just weird!). That opening call against the 49ers was ticky-tacky though (nullifying a 20 yd gain, which the illegal formation did not definitely aid), if people want to talk about 'let them play' in the marquee games.

 

But back to the Denver game, amid the INT which Graham returned for a TD was indeed a clear penalty on the WR Decker by Raven no. 23 - and it is the type of penalty I wish officials would not miss: Peyton Manning hit Decker with a well thrown ball (a tad lower would have been perfect), and no. 23 indeed interfered with Decker's arms - no. 23s left arm upon Decker's upper left arm, specifically, surely influencing Decker's inability to catch the ball, which the chances of not happening sans the penalty are very slim. I can just see how Bronco fans are livid, and boy do they want revenge on September 5th!

 

Like I stated, perspective; even on the comments boards in this video they argue over the controversies - one thing I get pickly about, which is also relevant to the SB: where are all the calls and non-calls which went against the Ravens (yes, Flacco was hit out of bounds on that 3rd down play which they then kicked a FG, but it was a dead play anyway, and he was throwing it away; stupid mistake by the defender, and lucky the officials let it go). But in both games - both of which Bronco and 49er fans (including myself) really fell it unusually bad against their teams with bad officiating - where are the numerous calls which the Ravens could claim for an offset?

 

Again, good luck. I checked a few current sports online gambling sites (Bovada was one), and the line still has the Broncos significantly favored by 7 1/2.

 

I don't have the whole game, but the Ravens apparently were not called for 1 penalty, and just 2 in the SB. It's more curiosity than any anger. They were good enough to be no top last year; it's like the Giants the year before - a handful of temas good enough to win it all, and came through when it mattered. Both the Broncos and 49ers showed some abysmal play decisions which seems beneath John Harbaugh.

 

James :)  

We won.

 

You lost.

 

No backsies.

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I just find it very superficial to claim that if we take away the 2 special teams TD in that playoff game, it should mean that the Broncos would ahve scored only 21 pts. The manner in which their offense was working, nothing suggests that, without those 'gifts', they wouldn't have scored points on the two possessions.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ1NaUUu8Ng

 

 

I realize that life is all about perspective and values, etc., but how do you guys react to this video? I mean, yes, as with the 49er fans like myself, you can retort with backlashes constituting 'sour grapes' and 'whining', but that doesn't disprove anything when looking at things for their isolated merits. Can anyone just say, 'we got some breaks, but we'll take it' (instead of insisting Smith was clean on that last SB play!). The Ravens being called 'cheaters' and allusions of 'fixes' (a title with the Broncos getting 'screwed' is unfair - it connotes something purposed) is ludicrous, IMHO. I mean, a fan lives with a victory comfortably - goodness, even Diego Maradona's infamous 'hand of God' (I'm sure Ray Lewis relates to that!) goal against England was justified by some Argentinian nationals by voicing out their humiliation over the 1982 war with England over the Falklands!

 

I'm sorry, but in the SB, Torrey Smith without even the slightest question shoved - with both hands - Chris Culliver, yet they called Culliver for his subsequent reaction (ie, it would not be offsetting penalties if called properly) in grabbing the jersey of Smith. That was huge under the circumstances of the game (31-29 Ravens, 3rd down deep in their own territory), surely not a ticky-tacky call if made. In the game against Denver, I think the PI call in the video I provided was not bogus because even though the ball looked uncatchable (the argument against the PI called), Doss was interfered with enough by Carter to impede the former to keep him far away enough from the ball to make it look uncatchable - and what justifies this is that the ball wasn't being thrown away, landing along the sideline (odds are a catch would have been difficult without the interference, but great throw by Flacco!). The same can be said for that last Smith/Crabtree play in the SB; Smith clearly grabbed Crabtree with both hands squeezed on his sides (Crabtree's arm was on Smith's helmet, I think, simply because Smith is much shorter; that was incidental, and Crabtree was going for the ball, not trying to 'stop' Smith in some manner), and a seemingly uncathable ball was so because Crabtree was held up (the falling ball can be seen in a still just 2-3 ft from Crabtree's outstretched hands). Again, a catch was possible if unimpeded, but staying in bounds? Doubtful, for any receiver not named Calvin Johnson. But that call may come 7 out of 10 times otherwise, but I guess just not be made in that circumstance in a SB, albeit apologist for officiating like Pereira - as he did in the Denver game - will attempt a 'scientific' explanantion in the standing calls' favor (why the officials did not call the Ravens for purposely penalizing several 49ers on the last safety play is puzzling. It's still a professional climate; the free kick should have been from the 10, not the 20, meaning a 65-70 or so FG attempt would have been possible; abberrational, but a team deserves the chance if the penalty was called. Sorry - it's just weird!). That opening call against the 49ers was ticky-tacky though (nullifying a 20 yd gain, which the illegal formation did not definitely aid), if people want to talk about 'let them play' in the marquee games.

 

But back to the Denver game, amid the INT which Graham returned for a TD was indeed a clear penalty on the WR Decker by Raven no. 23 - and it is the type of penalty I wish officials would not miss: Peyton Manning hit Decker with a well thrown ball (a tad lower would have been perfect), and no. 23 indeed interfered with Decker's arms - no. 23s left arm upon Decker's upper left arm, specifically, surely influencing Decker's inability to catch the ball, which the chances of not happening sans the penalty are very slim. I can just see how Bronco fans are livid, and boy do they want revenge on September 5th!

 

Like I stated, perspective; even on the comments boards in this video they argue over the controversies - one thing I get pickly about, which is also relevant to the SB: where are all the calls and non-calls which went against the Ravens (yes, Flacco was hit out of bounds on that 3rd down play which they then kicked a FG, but it was a dead play anyway, and he was throwing it away; stupid mistake by the defender, and lucky the officials let it go). But in both games - both of which Bronco and 49er fans (including myself) really fell it unusually bad against their teams with bad officiating - where are the numerous calls which the Ravens could claim for an offset?

 

Again, good luck. I checked a few current sports online gambling sites (Bovada was one), and the line still has the Broncos significantly favored by 7 1/2.

 

I don't have the whole game, but the Ravens apparently were not called for 1 penalty, and just 2 in the SB. It's more curiosity than any anger. They were good enough to be no top last year; it's like the Giants the year before - a handful of temas good enough to win it all, and came through when it mattered. Both the Broncos and 49ers showed some abysmal play decisions which seems beneath John Harbaugh.

 

James :)  

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I just find it very superficial to claim that if we take away the 2 special teams TD in that playoff game, it should mean that the Broncos would ahve scored only 21 pts. The manner in which their offense was working, nothing suggests that, without those 'gifts', they wouldn't have scored points on the two possessions.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ1NaUUu8Ng

 

 

I realize that life is all about perspective and values, etc., but how do you guys react to this video? I mean, yes, as with the 49er fans like myself, you can retort with backlashes constituting 'sour grapes' and 'whining', but that doesn't disprove anything when looking at things for their isolated merits. Can anyone just say, 'we got some breaks, but we'll take it' (instead of insisting Smith was clean on that last SB play!). The Ravens being called 'cheaters' and allusions of 'fixes' (a title with the Broncos getting 'screwed' is unfair - it connotes something purposed) is ludicrous, IMHO. I mean, a fan lives with a victory comfortably - goodness, even Diego Maradona's infamous 'hand of God' (I'm sure Ray Lewis relates to that!) goal against England was justified by some Argentinian nationals by voicing out their humiliation over the 1982 war with England over the Falklands!

 

I'm sorry, but in the SB, Torrey Smith without even the slightest question shoved - with both hands - Chris Culliver, yet they called Culliver for his subsequent reaction (ie, it would not be offsetting penalties if called properly) in grabbing the jersey of Smith. That was huge under the circumstances of the game (31-29 Ravens, 3rd down deep in their own territory), surely not a ticky-tacky call if made. In the game against Denver, I think the PI call in the video I provided was not bogus because even though the ball looked uncatchable (the argument against the PI called), Doss was interfered with enough by Carter to impede the former to keep him far away enough from the ball to make it look uncatchable - and what justifies this is that the ball wasn't being thrown away, landing along the sideline (odds are a catch would have been difficult without the interference, but great throw by Flacco!). The same can be said for that last Smith/Crabtree play in the SB; Smith clearly grabbed Crabtree with both hands squeezed on his sides (Crabtree's arm was on Smith's helmet, I think, simply because Smith is much shorter; that was incidental, and Crabtree was going for the ball, not trying to 'stop' Smith in some manner), and a seemingly uncathable ball was so because Crabtree was held up (the falling ball can be seen in a still just 2-3 ft from Crabtree's outstretched hands). Again, a catch was possible if unimpeded, but staying in bounds? Doubtful, for any receiver not named Calvin Johnson. But that call may come 7 out of 10 times otherwise, but I guess just not be made in that circumstance in a SB, albeit apologist for officiating like Pereira - as he did in the Denver game - will attempt a 'scientific' explanantion in the standing calls' favor (why the officials did not call the Ravens for purposely penalizing several 49ers on the last safety play is puzzling. It's still a professional climate; the free kick should have been from the 10, not the 20, meaning a 65-70 or so FG attempt would have been possible; abberrational, but a team deserves the chance if the penalty was called. Sorry - it's just weird!). That opening call against the 49ers was ticky-tacky though (nullifying a 20 yd gain, which the illegal formation did not definitely aid), if people want to talk about 'let them play' in the marquee games.

 

But back to the Denver game, amid the INT which Graham returned for a TD was indeed a clear penalty on the WR Decker by Raven no. 23 - and it is the type of penalty I wish officials would not miss: Peyton Manning hit Decker with a well thrown ball (a tad lower would have been perfect), and no. 23 indeed interfered with Decker's arms - no. 23s left arm upon Decker's upper left arm, specifically, surely influencing Decker's inability to catch the ball, which the chances of not happening sans the penalty are very slim. I can just see how Bronco fans are livid, and boy do they want revenge on September 5th!

 

Like I stated, perspective; even on the comments boards in this video they argue over the controversies - one thing I get pickly about, which is also relevant to the SB: where are all the calls and non-calls which went against the Ravens (yes, Flacco was hit out of bounds on that 3rd down play which they then kicked a FG, but it was a dead play anyway, and he was throwing it away; stupid mistake by the defender, and lucky the officials let it go). But in both games - both of which Bronco and 49er fans (including myself) really fell it unusually bad against their teams with bad officiating - where are the numerous calls which the Ravens could claim for an offset?

 

Again, good luck. I checked a few current sports online gambling sites (Bovada was one), and the line still has the Broncos significantly favored by 7 1/2.

 

I don't have the whole game, but the Ravens apparently were not called for 1 penalty, and just 2 in the SB. It's more curiosity than any anger. They were good enough to be no top last year; it's like the Giants the year before - a handful of temas good enough to win it all, and came through when it mattered. Both the Broncos and 49ers showed some abysmal play decisions which seems beneath John Harbaugh.

 

James :)  

 

 

James;  Are you Decker's brother?  Because you sure do cry a lot.

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I just find it very superficial to claim that if we take away the 2 special teams TD in that playoff game, it should mean that the Broncos would ahve scored only 21 pts. The manner in which their offense was working, nothing suggests that, without those 'gifts', they wouldn't have scored points on the two possessions.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ1NaUUu8Ng

 

 

I realize that life is all about perspective and values, etc., but how do you guys react to this video? I mean, yes, as with the 49er fans like myself, you can retort with backlashes constituting 'sour grapes' and 'whining', but that doesn't disprove anything when looking at things for their isolated merits. Can anyone just say, 'we got some breaks, but we'll take it' (instead of insisting Smith was clean on that last SB play!). The Ravens being called 'cheaters' and allusions of 'fixes' (a title with the Broncos getting 'screwed' is unfair - it connotes something purposed) is ludicrous, IMHO. I mean, a fan lives with a victory comfortably - goodness, even Diego Maradona's infamous 'hand of God' (I'm sure Ray Lewis relates to that!) goal against England was justified by some Argentinian nationals by voicing out their humiliation over the 1982 war with England over the Falklands!

 

I'm sorry, but in the SB, Torrey Smith without even the slightest question shoved - with both hands - Chris Culliver, yet they called Culliver for his subsequent reaction (ie, it would not be offsetting penalties if called properly) in grabbing the jersey of Smith. That was huge under the circumstances of the game (31-29 Ravens, 3rd down deep in their own territory), surely not a ticky-tacky call if made. In the game against Denver, I think the PI call in the video I provided was not bogus because even though the ball looked uncatchable (the argument against the PI called), Doss was interfered with enough by Carter to impede the former to keep him far away enough from the ball to make it look uncatchable - and what justifies this is that the ball wasn't being thrown away, landing along the sideline (odds are a catch would have been difficult without the interference, but great throw by Flacco!). The same can be said for that last Smith/Crabtree play in the SB; Smith clearly grabbed Crabtree with both hands squeezed on his sides (Crabtree's arm was on Smith's helmet, I think, simply because Smith is much shorter; that was incidental, and Crabtree was going for the ball, not trying to 'stop' Smith in some manner), and a seemingly uncathable ball was so because Crabtree was held up (the falling ball can be seen in a still just 2-3 ft from Crabtree's outstretched hands). Again, a catch was possible if unimpeded, but staying in bounds? Doubtful, for any receiver not named Calvin Johnson. But that call may come 7 out of 10 times otherwise, but I guess just not be made in that circumstance in a SB, albeit apologist for officiating like Pereira - as he did in the Denver game - will attempt a 'scientific' explanantion in the standing calls' favor (why the officials did not call the Ravens for purposely penalizing several 49ers on the last safety play is puzzling. It's still a professional climate; the free kick should have been from the 10, not the 20, meaning a 65-70 or so FG attempt would have been possible; abberrational, but a team deserves the chance if the penalty was called. Sorry - it's just weird!). That opening call against the 49ers was ticky-tacky though (nullifying a 20 yd gain, which the illegal formation did not definitely aid), if people want to talk about 'let them play' in the marquee games.

 

But back to the Denver game, amid the INT which Graham returned for a TD was indeed a clear penalty on the WR Decker by Raven no. 23 - and it is the type of penalty I wish officials would not miss: Peyton Manning hit Decker with a well thrown ball (a tad lower would have been perfect), and no. 23 indeed interfered with Decker's arms - no. 23s left arm upon Decker's upper left arm, specifically, surely influencing Decker's inability to catch the ball, which the chances of not happening sans the penalty are very slim. I can just see how Bronco fans are livid, and boy do they want revenge on September 5th!

 

Like I stated, perspective; even on the comments boards in this video they argue over the controversies - one thing I get pickly about, which is also relevant to the SB: where are all the calls and non-calls which went against the Ravens (yes, Flacco was hit out of bounds on that 3rd down play which they then kicked a FG, but it was a dead play anyway, and he was throwing it away; stupid mistake by the defender, and lucky the officials let it go). But in both games - both of which Bronco and 49er fans (including myself) really fell it unusually bad against their teams with bad officiating - where are the numerous calls which the Ravens could claim for an offset?

 

Again, good luck. I checked a few current sports online gambling sites (Bovada was one), and the line still has the Broncos significantly favored by 7 1/2.

 

I don't have the whole game, but the Ravens apparently were not called for 1 penalty, and just 2 in the SB. It's more curiosity than any anger. They were good enough to be no top last year; it's like the Giants the year before - a handful of temas good enough to win it all, and came through when it mattered. Both the Broncos and 49ers showed some abysmal play decisions which seems beneath John Harbaugh.

 

James :)  

 

You know, trolling is about being subtle not writing walls of text. Mods, just please ban this guy already as he justs posts to get a rise out of others.

 

It's always the losers who focus on one play or one call costing them the game. How about this: have your team play better disciplined football in the first half of the most important game of the season and maybe you'll win next time. Or this: have your OC not pull a Cam Cameron by running a fade to Crabtree on possibly the last drive of the SB three freaking times in a row and feed the ball to Gore or James instead.

 

Ravens fans got over the Lee Evans drop/Cundiff shanked FG, you'll get over this.

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For years it seems like The Ravens have been victim of bad calls even resulting in games that should have been won. Anything that happened in the playoff run does not keep me awake at night. At all.

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I just find it very superficial to claim that if we take away the 2 special teams TD in that playoff game, it should mean that the Broncos would ahve scored only 21 pts. The manner in which their offense was working, nothing suggests that, without those 'gifts', they wouldn't have scored points on the two possessions.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ1NaUUu8Ng

 

 

I realize that life is all about perspective and values, etc., but how do you guys react to this video? I mean, yes, as with the 49er fans like myself, you can retort with backlashes constituting 'sour grapes' and 'whining', but that doesn't disprove anything when looking at things for their isolated merits. Can anyone just say, 'we got some breaks, but we'll take it' (instead of insisting Smith was clean on that last SB play!). The Ravens being called 'cheaters' and allusions of 'fixes' (a title with the Broncos getting 'screwed' is unfair - it connotes something purposed) is ludicrous, IMHO. I mean, a fan lives with a victory comfortably - goodness, even Diego Maradona's infamous 'hand of God' (I'm sure Ray Lewis relates to that!) goal against England was justified by some Argentinian nationals by voicing out their humiliation over the 1982 war with England over the Falklands!

 

I'm sorry, but in the SB, Torrey Smith without even the slightest question shoved - with both hands - Chris Culliver, yet they called Culliver for his subsequent reaction (ie, it would not be offsetting penalties if called properly) in grabbing the jersey of Smith. That was huge under the circumstances of the game (31-29 Ravens, 3rd down deep in their own territory), surely not a ticky-tacky call if made. In the game against Denver, I think the PI call in the video I provided was not bogus because even though the ball looked uncatchable (the argument against the PI called), Doss was interfered with enough by Carter to impede the former to keep him far away enough from the ball to make it look uncatchable - and what justifies this is that the ball wasn't being thrown away, landing along the sideline (odds are a catch would have been difficult without the interference, but great throw by Flacco!). The same can be said for that last Smith/Crabtree play in the SB; Smith clearly grabbed Crabtree with both hands squeezed on his sides (Crabtree's arm was on Smith's helmet, I think, simply because Smith is much shorter; that was incidental, and Crabtree was going for the ball, not trying to 'stop' Smith in some manner), and a seemingly uncathable ball was so because Crabtree was held up (the falling ball can be seen in a still just 2-3 ft from Crabtree's outstretched hands). Again, a catch was possible if unimpeded, but staying in bounds? Doubtful, for any receiver not named Calvin Johnson. But that call may come 7 out of 10 times otherwise, but I guess just not be made in that circumstance in a SB, albeit apologist for officiating like Pereira - as he did in the Denver game - will attempt a 'scientific' explanantion in the standing calls' favor (why the officials did not call the Ravens for purposely penalizing several 49ers on the last safety play is puzzling. It's still a professional climate; the free kick should have been from the 10, not the 20, meaning a 65-70 or so FG attempt would have been possible; abberrational, but a team deserves the chance if the penalty was called. Sorry - it's just weird!). That opening call against the 49ers was ticky-tacky though (nullifying a 20 yd gain, which the illegal formation did not definitely aid), if people want to talk about 'let them play' in the marquee games.

 

But back to the Denver game, amid the INT which Graham returned for a TD was indeed a clear penalty on the WR Decker by Raven no. 23 - and it is the type of penalty I wish officials would not miss: Peyton Manning hit Decker with a well thrown ball (a tad lower would have been perfect), and no. 23 indeed interfered with Decker's arms - no. 23s left arm upon Decker's upper left arm, specifically, surely influencing Decker's inability to catch the ball, which the chances of not happening sans the penalty are very slim. I can just see how Bronco fans are livid, and boy do they want revenge on September 5th!

 

Like I stated, perspective; even on the comments boards in this video they argue over the controversies - one thing I get pickly about, which is also relevant to the SB: where are all the calls and non-calls which went against the Ravens (yes, Flacco was hit out of bounds on that 3rd down play which they then kicked a FG, but it was a dead play anyway, and he was throwing it away; stupid mistake by the defender, and lucky the officials let it go). But in both games - both of which Bronco and 49er fans (including myself) really fell it unusually bad against their teams with bad officiating - where are the numerous calls which the Ravens could claim for an offset?

 

Again, good luck. I checked a few current sports online gambling sites (Bovada was one), and the line still has the Broncos significantly favored by 7 1/2.

 

I don't have the whole game, but the Ravens apparently were not called for 1 penalty, and just 2 in the SB. It's more curiosity than any anger. They were good enough to be no top last year; it's like the Giants the year before - a handful of temas good enough to win it all, and came through when it mattered. Both the Broncos and 49ers showed some abysmal play decisions which seems beneath John Harbaugh.

 

James :)  

 

was it a long offseason for you?

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Next person who quotes that entire ridiculous post gets smacked through the computer. The page will barely load. Have a heart.
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very nice video BUT....

 

1st...this IS NOT a rematch!  that broncos loss was in the AFC Divisional Round and the Ravens booted them out of the playoffs on their own turf.  this upcoming game on Sept 6 is just the season opener.  c'mon bruh!  smh!

 

2nd..last years ring will ALWAYS mean something.  it will mean...ummm...the Baltimore Ravens are and will forever be the 2012 Superbowl Champions!!  holla!!  lol!

 

-Mili

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It's truly a shame that people make videos like this, talking about overpaying a QB.  Sad thing is that in five NFL seasons Joe has won just as many playoff games as Peyton and has the better record.  A Bronco fan was talking crap on NFL.com about how they beat us during the regular season, saying the Ravens sucked, but didn't wanna talk about how they got man handled in the playoffs.  Had it not been for those returns it would have been a much worse beating.  Joe doesn't need to throw 4500+ yards and 35+ touchdowns unlike Peyton.  Why?  Because the Ravens' front office knows how to build a team and we have potentially the best running back tandem in the NFL.  Look at the weapons Peyton had, look at the receivers Joe's had.  Working with Mark Clayton and Housh, who both dropped critical passes.  Up until two years ago the Ravens didn't have a threatening WR corps, but now they do.  Granted we lost Boldin, but with Caldwell calling the shots they will have a much more efficient passing game.  I also guess that getting younger and faster on defense is being dismantled, while they "reloaded."  Lol can't wait til Sept. 5th.

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very nice video BUT....

 

1st...this IS NOT a rematch!  that broncos loss was in the AFC Divisional Round and the Ravens booted them out of the playoffs on their own turf.  this upcoming game on Sept 6 is just the season opener.  c'mon bruh!  smh!

 

2nd..last years ring will ALWAYS mean something.  it will mean...ummm...the Baltimore Ravens areand will forever be the 2012 Superbowl Champions!!  holla!!  lol!

 

-Mili

 

Preach. Just like how the Patsies game in Week 3 wasn't a rematch, this isn't a rematch either. Doesn't matter how many times the Broncos beat us in the regular season, ain't no medicine strong enough to cure the sting of a home playoff loss.

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You all know you can edit (read SHORTEN) the quote in your responce right?

 

Where's the fun in that?

When we can hit 100 pages on this thread just responding to one troll   ;)

 

I didn't know Stephen King was a Broncos fan.

 

Well played, sir.

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Whoops! I wrote too impetuously, sorry: I read somehwere (might have been that Bronco grivenacy video over the playoff game's officiating) that the Ravens were not penalized at all in that game; I later thought that seemed a little unusual, so I looked it up. Correction, my apologies - the Ravens had 8 penalties for 56 yds, the Broncos 10 penalties for 87 ygs. But the Broncos had 30 1st downs for the Ravens' 21, and a slightly better 3rd down efficiency which I always first look at to see who was moving the chains better (when analyzing a game). Ray Rice was superior to Hillman in the rushing dept.

Indeed, the Broncos' running game may prove a problem for them; it doesn't matter in the long run how good you pass, etc. The lack of a good running game denies the balance necessary against a good defence. Probably no Champ Bailey, definitely no Von Miller. A shuffled OL. This is where nk02442 has a valid point. It might be a great bet on the Ravens for bettors, considering the line (it should drop over the next 10 days).

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you forgot to mention the referee was wearing the number 52.

 

CLEARLY he worked for Ray Lewis....

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you forgot to mention the referee was wearing the number 52.

CLEARLY he worked for Ray Lewis....


No no no...it was Ray Lewis!
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Hoping the O's are out of the playoff picture by Sept. 5 because Peter Angelos screwed the Ravens, making them lose the NFL's showcase kickoff game at home.


That was not Angelos. He, nor the MLB for that matter, have any obligation to make a schedule that is beneficial to the NFL in any way. This is all about the (profanity removed) hat Goodel and the NFL wanting the highest possible ratings so they can charge more for commercial time. They could have changed it to Wednesday. They could have run it Thursday anyway, here in Baltimore. But Wednesday didn't have as big a draw last year from the TV audience, and they were afraid that Baseball would adversely effect ratings as well. NFL greed, plain and simple.
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I didn't know Stephen King was a Broncos fan.


King's fiction is at least enjoyable to read

All we heard about before the game was how we had no shot, all we hear after is how it was a fluke. Time to move on... well not until America's game re-shows it lol
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Amazing how you can pick apart a game and make claims of; what? A huge conspiracy amongst the Refs? What would be there reasoning for "letting" the Ravens win? We are a small market team. There is no real financial incentive for the NFL or the television networks to "let" us win. In fact a Manning vs Brady AFC game would have produced much higher ratings and made much more money.

I do not understand what your little film is really suggesting. You are very unclear about it. If you have some meaning then say it. Otherwise go whine on your own board.

The truth is that calls are missed or screwed up by refs all the time for and against both teams. If you bothered to study the whole film with the same degree of scrutiny and with an actual open mind you would see egregious non-calls both ways. It happens. Sometimes we win, and sometimes we lose. But really, all this back and forth is fruitless, since the game was already played and the winner already announced. The results are now part of history, never to be altered no matter what sort of hokey conspiracy theory you or the rest of your crying fellow fans wish to suggest.
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I just find it very superficial to claim that if we take away the 2 special teams TD in that playoff game, it should mean that the Broncos would ahve scored only 21 pts. The manner in which their offense was working, nothing suggests that, without those 'gifts', they wouldn't have scored points on the two possessions.

 

I don't have the whole game, but the Ravens apparently were not called for 1 penalty, and just 2 in the SB. It's more curiosity than any anger. They were good enough to be no top last year; it's like the Giants the year before - a handful of temas good enough to win it all, and came through when it mattered. Both the Broncos and 49ers showed some abysmal play decisions which seems beneath John Harbaugh.

 

James :)  

Let me give you some advice: if you want to come here and talk about the upcoming football game, great. Let's do it. Let's talk the match-ups, who is going to be on who, how these additions and subtractions will affect our teams, etc. If you want to discuss how losing Pitta, Boldin, & Birk will affect us against your defense without Miller & Dumervil, let's do it. I'm so sick of hearing about last year from Broncos & Niners fans. 

 

If you can't do that--if you can't just move on and talk about the future game, then don't come here. Bottom-line. 

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I had half a mind to comment on that troll and break down his argument piece by piece until I realized he doesn't even understand the rules of NFL football and how they work.  He was making up rules that don't exist, so he's not worth the time.

 

Back to the opener:  I think this game is still very dangerous for us in spite of all the injuries and suspensions.  I feel as though we should win, but it won't be easy.  I have a feeling we could jump up on these guys early but then have to hold on late against a big comeback, similar to the Superbowl against SF.  I feel like a big play or two from our "new" defense will be the difference late after our offense plays inspired early and takes the lead.

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I guess the opening statement is true. We play in Denver. So it's technically true the Broncos won't get out of Baltimore with a win. Lol
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I just find it very superficial to claim that if we take away the 2 special teams TD in that playoff game, it should mean that the Broncos would ahve scored only 21 pts. The manner in which their offense was working, nothing suggests that, without those 'gifts', they wouldn't have scored points on the two possessions.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ1NaUUu8Ng
 
 
I realize that life is all about perspective and values, etc., but how do you guys react to this video? I mean, yes, as with the 49er fans like myself, you can retort with backlashes constituting 'sour grapes' and 'whining', but that doesn't disprove anything when looking at things for their isolated merits. Can anyone just say, 'we got some breaks, but we'll take it' (instead of insisting Smith was clean on that last SB play!). The Ravens being called 'cheaters' and allusions of 'fixes' (a title with the Broncos getting 'screwed' is unfair - it connotes something purposed) is ludicrous, IMHO. I mean, a fan lives with a victory comfortably - goodness, even Diego Maradona's infamous 'hand of God' (I'm sure Ray Lewis relates to that!) goal against England was justified by some Argentinian nationals by voicing out their humiliation over the 1982 war with England over the Falklands!
 
I'm sorry, but in the SB, Torrey Smith without even the slightest question shoved - with both hands - Chris Culliver, yet they called Culliver for his subsequent reaction (ie, it would not be offsetting penalties if called properly) in grabbing the jersey of Smith. That was huge under the circumstances of the game (31-29 Ravens, 3rd down deep in their own territory), surely not a ticky-tacky call if made. In the game against Denver, I think the PI call in the video I provided was not bogus because even though the ball looked uncatchable (the argument against the PI called), Doss was interfered with enough by Carter to impede the former to keep him far away enough from the ball to make it look uncatchable - and what justifies this is that the ball wasn't being thrown away, landing along the sideline (odds are a catch would have been difficult without the interference, but great throw by Flacco!). The same can be said for that last Smith/Crabtree play in the SB; Smith clearly grabbed Crabtree with both hands squeezed on his sides (Crabtree's arm was on Smith's helmet, I think, simply because Smith is much shorter; that was incidental, and Crabtree was going for the ball, not trying to 'stop' Smith in some manner), and a seemingly uncathable ball was so because Crabtree was held up (the falling ball can be seen in a still just 2-3 ft from Crabtree's outstretched hands). Again, a catch was possible if unimpeded, but staying in bounds? Doubtful, for any receiver not named Calvin Johnson. But that call may come 7 out of 10 times otherwise, but I guess just not be made in that circumstance in a SB, albeit apologist for officiating like Pereira - as he did in the Denver game - will attempt a 'scientific' explanantion in the standing calls' favor (why the officials did not call the Ravens for purposely penalizing several 49ers on the last safety play is puzzling. It's still a professional climate; the free kick should have been from the 10, not the 20, meaning a 65-70 or so FG attempt would have been possible; abberrational, but a team deserves the chance if the penalty was called. Sorry - it's just weird!). That opening call against the 49ers was ticky-tacky though (nullifying a 20 yd gain, which the illegal formation did not definitely aid), if people want to talk about 'let them play' in the marquee games.
 
But back to the Denver game, amid the INT which Graham returned for a TD was indeed a clear penalty on the WR Decker by Raven no. 23 - and it is the type of penalty I wish officials would not miss: Peyton Manning hit Decker with a well thrown ball (a tad lower would have been perfect), and no. 23 indeed interfered with Decker's arms - no. 23s left arm upon Decker's upper left arm, specifically, surely influencing Decker's inability to catch the ball, which the chances of not happening sans the penalty are very slim. I can just see how Bronco fans are livid, and boy do they want revenge on September 5th!
 
Like I stated, perspective; even on the comments boards in this video they argue over the controversies - one thing I get pickly about, which is also relevant to the SB: where are all the calls and non-calls which went against the Ravens (yes, Flacco was hit out of bounds on that 3rd down play which they then kicked a FG, but it was a dead play anyway, and he was throwing it away; stupid mistake by the defender, and lucky the officials let it go). But in both games - both of which Bronco and 49er fans (including myself) really fell it unusually bad against their teams with bad officiating - where are the numerous calls which the Ravens could claim for an offset?
 
Again, good luck. I checked a few current sports online gambling sites (Bovada was one), and the line still has the Broncos significantly favored by 7 1/2.
 
I don't have the whole game, but the Ravens apparently were not called for 1 penalty, and just 2 in the SB. It's more curiosity than any anger. They were good enough to be no top last year; it's like the Giants the year before - a handful of temas good enough to win it all, and came through when it mattered. Both the Broncos and 49ers showed some abysmal play decisions which seems beneath John Harbaugh.
 
James :)

Child puh-lease...
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