Which receivers have earned a roster spot so far?

[CapoRocky]

I see Smith and Jones out there at wide out as the starters.  Stokley and Doss as the 2nd string backups.  Mellette and Williams as the 3rd string.  Thompson missed a lot of time but will make the team as the 7th receiver.  Reed will make the team on special teams as a backup to Jones at kick returner.  Cuts will be Streeter and Brown (practice squad).  I see us carrying 3 TEs.  Clark, Dickson and Furstenberg.  We will need to carry 2 FBs, too.  That will give us less room on special teams for bubble players.  When Pitta returns, we will need to make a decision about who we are planning to carry into next season.  I don't see his contract as being a problem because the injury will reduce his price a little.  Dickson may be the odd man out.

[rmw10]

At this point, I see:

Smith, Stokley, Jones, Doss, Mellette, Thompson, and Reed.

Williams and Streeter are cut.

Brown goes to PS or IR if they don't think he can make it there.

[gabefergy]

I don't think we carry 7 WRs, especially considering we have 2 FBs and there appears to be 9 OL that will make the 53. 

[rmw10]

I don't think we carry 7 WRs, especially considering we have 2 FBs and there appears to be 9 OL that will make the 53.

I think it's possible that we go with 9 in the secondary, which could possibly open up a spot at WR.

[gabefergy]

I think it's possible that we go with 9 in the secondary, which could possibly open up a spot at WR.

Maybe. I just don't see the point.

[rmw10]

Maybe. I just don't see the point.

Yeah I understand. I'm looking at it more as 6 WR and a STer that can play WR if need be.

[ellicottraven]

In my opinion these players have earned it:
 
Wr's
 
#1 Torrey Smith
#2 Brandon Stokely
#3 Aaron Mellete
#4 Laquan Williams
#5 Marlon Brown
#6 Deonte Thompson
 
TE's
 
1. Ed Dickson
2. Dallas Clark
3. Frustenburg
 
How would you rank them?

So leaving out Jacoby Jones was deliberate? Do you forget he potentially deserved to be SB MVP just as much as Joe did? I suppose you did...

Hear me out, unless somebody like a Reggie Wayne type receiver becomes available, we are going to keep JJ on the team just for his special teams and a 3rd WR. I emphasise 3rd WR though...

[ravensfan2424]

My picks for WR and TE:

 

1) Smith

2) Stokley

3) Jones

4) Williams

5) Doss

6) Mellette

 

IR for Thompson, PS for Brown

 

1) Clark

2) Dickson

3) Bajema

 

Shiancoe is cut, PS/IR for Furstenburg

[RavensDE]

1. Smith - legit
2. Doss - meh
3. Jones - Big Play guy
4. Stokely - 3rd down specialist
5. Thompson - depth talent/speed
6. Williams - Special teams mostly

PS/IR Mellette and Brown
Mellette looks better so for but unless he picks it up on Special Teams he won't oust Williams let alone Doss or Thompson.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

1. Smith - legit
2. Doss - meh
3. Jones - Big Play guy
4. Stokely - 3rd down specialist
5. Thompson - depth talent/speed
6. Williams - Special teams mostly

PS/IR Mellette and Brown
Mellette looks better so for but unless he picks it up on Special Teams he won't oust Williams let alone Doss or Thompson.

 

Unless he legitimately proves himself to be the 2nd best WR on the roster right now. He hasn't yet but looks like hes going to get an opportunity to show that he is.

[stormie]

I just can't place them in a lineup right now.

 

Torrey - YES

Jacoby - RETURN guy

 

But the other WR's?   Maybe 1 or 2 of them at #3.

 

I still think Ozzie is going to have to offer up a trade and Draft pick to get a good solid #2 receiver here.  I can't see carrying 6 or 7 mediocre receivers.  I'd rather have 2 good receivers and 2 #3's. 

[PerpetuallyBored74]

This is how our coaches are most likely evaluating them.

Z Wr (Flanker) - Torrey Smith
Y Wr (Slot Receiver) - Brandon Stokely
X Wr (Split End) - Jacoby Jones

Backup Y & Z - Tandon Doss

Backup Z & X - Deonte Thompson**
Special Teams - ?????? (Primarily between David Reed & Laquan Williams, with the rookie Aaron Mellette as a dark horse)
Practice Squad - Marlon Brown, ?????? (maybe Tommy Streeter, maybe not)

**If he's healthy by the Denver game, if not then Reed takes his spot (temporarily).

Move TE - Dallas Clark
Blocking TE - Billy Bajema***
3rd TE - Matt Furstenburg

***When Ed Dickson gets healthy, Bajema gets cut and Dickson replaces him.

[ravensfan160]

I'm really starting to think there is a chance Doss gets cut which stinks because I've been a supporter of his. but he still hasn't even been targeted by Flacco yet in the preseason. That is amazing to me. If he doesn't step it up in the 3rd game he could be gone. The excuse for Doss not doing much his first 2 years was he was blocked from getting onto the field by Boldin. Boldin is gone now and we still had to bring in somebody else to do what Doss should be doing. Doss gives us very little on special teams. He does return kicks but not particularly well. It likely will come down to Stokely or Doss and I don't like Doss's chances in that matchup.

 

Ozzie hates to cut loose draft picks but Doss either shows us something against the Panthers or he could be done here. Another factor to consider is we will be carrying 2 FB's this year. That likely means 1 less roster spot for WR's.

[KillaBirdTJ]

So leaving out Jacoby Jones was deliberate? Do you forget he potentially deserved to be SB MVP just as much as Joe did? I suppose you did...

Hear me out, unless somebody like a Reggie Wayne type receiver becomes available, we are going to keep JJ on the team just for his special teams and a 3rd WR. I emphasise 3rd WR th

 

 

Jacoby Jones was left off of my list intentionally. He was the MVP in my eyes just as much as Flacco was... with that being said he flourished as our #3 last year because IMHO teams were too concerned with stopping Torrey, Anquan, Dennis and Ray. With Pitta and Boldin gone I don't see Jones flying under the radar this year.  We need guys who track, and attack the ball and not wait for it to drop into their body catching with his chest!

 

In closing, Jones could always elevate his game and prove me wrong... I hope he does

[hawkprey]

Jacoby Jones was left off of my list intentionally. He was the MVP in my eyes just as much as Flacco was... with that being said he flourished as our #3 last year because IMHO teams were too concerned with stopping Torrey, Anquan, Dennis and Ray. With Pitta and Boldin gone I don't see Jones flying under the radar this year.  We need guys who track, and attack the ball and not wait for it to drop into their body catching with his chest!

 

In closing, Jones could always elevate his game and prove me wrong... I hope he does

Yes, exactly. Jones falls back waiting for the ball. Which is fine if you're wide open. He needs to catch aggressively, but he's the most passive receiver you'll find. His two notable catches in the playoffs both feature him squatting down as a defender tries to make a play on the ball.

[ellicottraven]

Jacoby Jones was left off of my list intentionally. He was the MVP in my eyes just as much as Flacco was... with that being said he flourished as our #3 last year because IMHO teams were too concerned with stopping Torrey, Anquan, Dennis and Ray. With Pitta and Boldin gone I don't see Jones flying under the radar this year.  We need guys who track, and attack the ball and not wait for it to drop into their body catching with his chest!
 
In closing, Jones could always elevate his game and prove me wrong... I hope he does

Well, your point is well thought out although I disagree with you in that he was flying under the radar. He just beat them and got open.

[ravensfan160]

I'm curious about Marlon Brown. Does anyone know what this guy's draft stock was before he got hurt? It seems pretty clear the injury is why he went undrafted. He already seems significantly further along than Streeter and he was a 6th round pick.

[rmw10]

I'm curious about Marlon Brown. Does anyone know what this guy's draft stock was before he got hurt? It seems pretty clear the injury is why he went undrafted. He already seems significantly further along than Streeter and he was a 6th round pick.

 

Brown always had the talent, but never lived up to it due to various injuries.  He won some high schooler of the year award or something like that, and was a pretty big recruit.  With all of his injuries, he was never really considered much of a draft prospect.  He was never on the field long enough to build any stock.

 

Regardless, I really like the guy, and hope we keep him around.  I doubt he makes the active roster, but I do think we keep him around.

[RavensDE]

Unless he legitimately proves himself to be the 2nd best WR on the roster right now. He hasn't yet but looks like hes going to get an opportunity to show that he is.

Your right about that. That's a steep climb to #2 but the other guys are making it easy for him right now. It looks like he's going to get some time with Flacco during the next preseason game. I imagine it'll be somewhat limited just to give him a look but if he's productive it will say a lot. It also lets the other boys know their opportunity is fading and they need to step up. I'm very surprised by his quick rise but I hope it continues.

[Ravenslifer]

I hope you are right my friend, for the sake of this season I hope you are right about Doss.

 

Just to point out one thing about Doss' targets last year - aside from the playoff game against Indy which everyone seems to remember, the games Doss even got into were always the games that Joe was struggling in i.e. Denver the first time, San Diego - between those 2 games that was something like 8 of the 21 targets he saw all season.  Look at Torrey's stats from those games and the lines are just about the same as Doss' in terms of target/reception ratio.  I'm not saying Doss is good or bad one way or the other, but simply a lot of people are evaluating him based on some unfair games last year i.e. games where the passing offense in general was bad.  The problem is Doss was never put in to a game situation where the receivers were having success - Cam always waited until desperation time to use other receivers.

[RavensDE]

I'm really starting to think there is a chance Doss gets cut which stinks because I've been a supporter of his. but he still hasn't even been targeted by Flacco yet in the preseason. That is amazing to me. If he doesn't step it up in the 3rd game he could be gone. The excuse for Doss not doing much his first 2 years was he was blocked from getting onto the field by Boldin. Boldin is gone now and we still had to bring in somebody else to do what Doss should be doing. Doss gives us very little on special teams. He does return kicks but not particularly well. It likely will come down to Stokely or Doss and I don't like Doss's chances in that matchup.

Ozzie hates to cut loose draft picks but Doss either shows us something against the Panthers or he could be done here. Another factor to consider is we will be carrying 2 FB's this year. That likely means 1 less roster spot for WR's.

I'm with you on Doss. This was his time to shine. If he can't do it now then it is less likely he can do it. It's not like he's dropping balls it just seems like he's not getting open. I think Flacco did throw a tough one his way against the Bucs but its all the same. We extended his time the second game and he still didn't seem to separate even against lower competition. That said he did score a shifty move to the end zone. A TD is a Production even if he didn't impress.

I see Stokely as more of a specialist that i expect to survive camp but I think if Doss falls down the depth chart his value becomes more about special teams. In that scenario I think LWilliams is a better special teams player and that could put Doss out despite being further along as a route runner/catcher.

Having a 2nd FB in Juice may take a roster spot from WR, TE, or RB depending on how we assess Juice and the other players at those positions. I haven't seen him run much so I'd expect to see a 3rd RB, but he's been lining up in the slot and on the end of the line quite a bit so it wouldn't surprise me to see just Dickson, Clark and Juice in the TE rotation with Furstenberg on the P-squad in reserve either...or Shank or Bajema. It's all pretty fluid.

I may just be fighting the possibility LWilliams would be cut. If David Reed, who I soured on long ago, pops off for a good game at receiver he would look good with his reserve/rotation returns skills and a gunner. I feel like special teams is going to play a large role at the bottom of the depth chart.

[Jalxsu]

I do like Jacoby, and I voted for him as SB MVP, but I just don't think he is worth what we are paying him.

We could get a solid number 2 for his wages, but I can't see a team wanting to trade a receiver of that quality for a guy who is primarily just a (elite) returner.

I think he will stay, but this is likely to be his final year here.

I'm not too sure that we will need as many receivers on the roster as many of you think. Rice, Clark, and possibly Juice could all get reps in the slot in addition to Stokely, so I feel an additional slot guy to be a bit if a waste.

I think we will go back to being a run first team. Why not play to our strengths?

We don't have even an average number 2 receiver on our roster. Outside of Torrey, I don't think any of our guys would be locks to start on any other team in the league. I'm actually struggling to think of a team with a weaker WR corps than the Ravens... maybe the Patriots, but Brady can make them all look elite, we're about equal with the Steelers, the Raiders are quite poor (although I think Denarius Moore could look great on a better team), but at least we are in a better position than the Jets!

I see us running a lot, playing short passes to whoever is in the slot/dump offs to Rice/Pierce which could leave Torrey and whoever else open deep. I don't see a strong possession receiver who can play outside, so I'd be very happy with us just keeping our burners and guys who will contribute to special teams on the main roster.

Most of the guys who make the roster will likely not even make double digit catches this year. So many people forget how important ST is to the team, and it's a whole lot more than just the kicker/punter/returner. None of our guys will make massive contributions on offense other than Torrey. I feel some players just don't care much for the work on ST, so I'd keep around the guys who do care, and who do perform - if they step it up and perform well opposite Smith, that'd be great!

Hope that made sense... was rambling a bit and just put down the first things to pop in to my head.

[KillaBirdTJ]

I'm even more convinced after watching yesterdays game that these are the WR's we should keep:

 

Smith

Brown

Stokley

Mellete

Williams

Thompson

Jones

 

* IMO Jones should return punts and kickoffs primarily

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I think we keep:

 

T. Smith

J. Jones

B. Stokley

O. Brown

A. Mellette

D. Thompson/T. Doss/L. Williams

 

Unfortunately I think Doss' potential may never be realized. He went too long without game action. Maybe a fresh start would be best for him. Never would have guessed it but I think Mellette and Brown look the best outside of Torrey and Stokley.

 

Deonte, Tandon and Laquan may come down to a battle of versatility/ who brings the most value outside of catching passes. And I think we take 6 receivers tops.

 

TE will be:

 

E. Dickson

D. Clark

B. Bajema

 

Furstenberg will not make the final 53. IR or PS book it. Especially if he goes to the PS they can bring him up if anything happens to Dickson or Clark. We cant do that with Bajema so it just wouldn't make sense to cut him in favor of Furstenberg when theres no way he'd play in front of Dickson or Clark anyways.

[jazz1988]

I think we keep:

 

T. Smith

J. Jones

B. Stokley

O. Brown

A. Mellette

D. Thompson/T. Doss/L. Williams

 

Unfortunately I think Doss' potential may never be realized. He went too long without game action. Maybe a fresh start would be best for him. Never would have guessed it but I think Mellette and Brown look the best outside of Torrey and Stokley.

 

Deonte, Tandon and Laquan may come down to a battle of versatility/ who brings the most value outside of catching passes. And I think we take 6 receivers tops.

 

TE will be:

 

E. Dickson

D. Clark

B. Bajema

 

Furstenberg will not make the final 53. IR or PS book it. Especially if he goes to the PS they can bring him up if anything happens to Dickson or Clark. We cant do that with Bajema so it just wouldn't make sense to cut him in favor of Furstenberg when theres no way he'd play in front of Dickson or Clark anyways.

 

I agree with  what you said and honestly some times inorder to be great you have to make mistakes Doss had last nite. Golden Tate didnt make much noise in the preseason at all last year and the seahawks even went on to sign Terrell Owens to see what he got  and other veteran wideouts. I think Doss is very talented wideout and that goes for the other wideouts as well and i wish them much success

[flynismo]

I'd still have Doss as my #3. At least I have seen him play in real games and make plays. That's more than I can say for anyone not named Torrey and Jacoby. Jacoby has been the worst of the bunch IMO but his roster spot is not in jeopardy.

Four negs for stating the obvious, lol...gotta love this forum

[flynismo]

I just want Deonte to make the cut. I really feel like he could be another Stokely (in his prime)

[izvoodoo]

I just want Deonte to make the cut. I really feel like he could be another Stokely (in his prime)

Yeah, I was upset he was injured so long.  He was my pick to click.

[izvoodoo]

Four negs for stating the obvious, lol...gotta love this forum

I don't know how it would go over in the locker room.  Dude was clearly outplayed.

[SeaHawk]

Four negs for stating the obvious, lol...gotta love this forum

 

So, using the judgment of keeping him solely because we've seen him play in games, we should've kept Cundiff last year opposed to Tucker, right? Since, you know, we actually saw Cundiff play in real games versus the undrafted scrub Tucker. Good, sound reasoning right there.