Ravens sign WR Brandon Stokley

[NaveSenrag]

dickson at best will be ''good'' solid etc..Pitta i feel will always have better hands and route running.

Dallas Clark whom we might sign was a better version of Pitta when he was younger. I hope we sign him.

Three over the hill receivers in one preseason? I wonder which of them will drop the pass that knocks us out of the postseason.

[Sami84]

dallas clark doesnt drop passes

[NaveSenrag]

dallas clark doesnt drop passes

Funny. They said the same thing about Doss.

[Sami84]

Funny. They said the same thing about Doss.

 

urrr..dallas clark has proven it throughout his career.

 

what s doss done except get tatoos?

[NaveSenrag]

urrr..dallas clark has proven it throughout his career.

what s doss done except get tatoos?

Enough to earn him the "Doesn't drop passes" label prior to this year.

[rmw10]

Nostalgia

 

 

Baltimore Ravens ‏@Ravens

Brandon Stokley announces he will wear No. 80 and also will practice tomorrow.

[youne]

Anyone who thinks Stokley is done needs to watch this video from 1:55 on.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIRJyaYbKRA&feature=player_detailpage&t=115

[Sami84]

it might be a derrick mason texans/ jets scenario.

 

it just happens. Mason was great for us in his last season and then..

[PurpleReign92]

A lot of younger guys specially the ones going out to catch a pass they can learn I thing or two from B Stokley.

[JohnnyBoy8102]

Solid Vet signing that knows Caldwell's system.

[BaltimoreBean]

Money had a lot more to do with Boldin being gone than anything. Why does no one realize this? If we keep Boldin, we don't have some combination of Canty, Spears, Huff, Dumervil, or Smith.

Could have restructured. Boldin said ravens had no interest in restructuring.

[gabefergy]

Could have restructured. Boldin said ravens had no interest in restructuring.

Well they did ask him to take a 2M pay cut. That is a type of re-structure. An extension is not something the Ravens wanted to do though because it only screws the cap in the future. Not a smart move for an old, declining player.

[gabefergy]

I already posted some numbers showing how effective Stokely was last year as a slot receiver, but I thought I would add to that by showing a comparison to Boldin and also show the similarities between Pitta and Clark.

 

These numbers are all from when these recievers lined up in the slot. YPPR is Yards per route run. Also these are the numbers for all games including postseason so that is 4 more games that Pitta/Boldin had to compile stats.

 

              Routes      Targets       Receptions        Yards      YPPR       TDs       Catch Rate

 

Boldin         417         72                47                  681            1.63         6            59.7

Stokley       392         61                43                  556            1.42         5            77.0

 

 

Pitta            310         69                46                   560           1.81         8            66.7

Clark           217         36                26                   216           1.00         0            72.2

 

 

From these numbers it is clear that Pitta will be missed, but Clark is no slouch. He played a large % of his snaps in the slot (56.8) similar to Pitta (63.1) and is accustomed to this role in the offense. Losing Boldin and Pitta's production is tough, but if Stokley and Clark can maintain their pace from last season the drop-off may not be that significant.

[GrimCoconut]

Well they did ask him to take a 2M pay cut. That is a type of re-structure. An extension is not something the Ravens wanted to do though because it only screws the cap in the future. Not a smart move for an old, declining player.

An interesting thing to point out is the Ravens signed a lot of guys to one-year deals. I wonder why? 

 

I don't believe in coincidences. There's a reason behind everything. There's no way one of the best GM in all sports signs a bunch of guys (especially on offense at TE & WR) because he felt like it or to solve a problem. Boldin wanted a longer deal. We obviously don't want to do that. I'll leave my personal opinion on why up in the air, but just an FYI for those of you who wonder his first name begins with a "T" & his last name is a common last name beginning with an "S" that is the same name of a CB that was drafted in the 1st round in the same draft class he was. 

 

(Gabe, I'm not saying you're saying this; more taking your point and expanding on it for my own, haha.)

[gabefergy]

An interesting thing to point out is the Ravens signed a lot of guys to one-year deals. I wonder why? 

 

I don't believe in coincidences. There's a reason behind everything. There's no way one of the best GM in all sports signs a bunch of guys (especially on offense at TE & WR) because he felt like it or to solve a problem. Boldin wanted a longer deal. We obviously don't want to do that. I'll leave my personal opinion on why up in the air, but just an FYI for those of you who wonder his first name begins with a "T" & his last name is a common last name beginning with an "S" that is the same name of a CB that was drafted in the 1st round in the same draft class he was. 

 

(Gabe, I'm not saying you're saying this; more taking your point and expanding on it for my own, haha.)

Definitely a good point. 

[GrimCoconut]

Definitely a good point. 

Oh, yes, and also to add on to it WRs are becoming some of the highest paid players in football now. His agent, the one I assume we're going to have to bring the Brinks for is Drew Rosenhaus. Not exactly a friendly guy to teams. 

 

There's a reason Ozzie is brilliant, and it's not just because of his ability to uncover talent but to find cheap talent to augment the roster and his ability to discern between who to keep and who to cut. He's very good at it. If he feels the need to bring some guys to compete like Stokley & Clark, hey, I'm happy for it. More to compete. If they suck as much as people think, they won't make the team. If certain guys are better, they won't beat them. It's that simple.

 

I'm indifferent on Tandon Doss. I like his potential as well as the potential of other players. With that said, if he can't beat Stokley for the job then to be frank, he didn't deserve it. Same goes for any other WR on this team. 

[DMH_in_WA]

Seriously?  Some of you guys can't see the value in Stokley?  No, he has nothing to do with the outside and Smith or Jones.  Stokley is a a crafty veteran who can work the heck out of the middle and with massively sure hands.  No, he's not gonna get huge separation, but he doesn't need it where he'll be going.   

Nothing left in the tank?  You can say that after that TD catch against the Ravens in the AFC Divisional game?  Dude still has sweet hands and I'm glad for the veteran presence with the injuries we've sustained.

[GrimCoconut]

Seriously?  Some of you guys can't see the value in Stokley?  No, he has nothing to do with the outside and Smith or Jones.  Stokley is a a crafty veteran who can work the heck out of the middle and with massively sure hands.  No, he's not gonna get huge separation, but he doesn't need it where he'll be going.   

Nothing left in the tank?  You can say that after that TD catch against the Ravens in the AFC Divisional game?  Dude still has sweet hands and I'm glad for the veteran presence with the injuries we've sustained.

Yeah, if Pitta didn't go down I don't know if we would've signed Stokley, but we may well have done it anyway. He does offer quite a bit to the team in terms of leadership. I believe Torrey Smith does the same, but Stokley can teach the slot very well to these guys because that's what he does. It's not a bad move at all. 

[Sami84]

I already posted some numbers showing how effective Stokely was last year as a slot receiver, but I thought I would add to that by showing a comparison to Boldin and also show the similarities between Pitta and Clark.

 

These numbers are all from when these recievers lined up in the slot. YPPR is Yards per route run. Also these are the numbers for all games including postseason so that is 4 more games that Pitta/Boldin had to compile stats.

 

              Routes      Targets       Receptions        Yards      YPPR       TDs       Catch Rate

 

Boldin         417         72                47                  681            1.63         6            59.7

Stokley       392         61                43                  556            1.42         5            77.0

 

 

Pitta            310         69                46                   560           1.81         8            66.7

Clark           217         36                26                   216           1.00         0            72.2

 

 

From these numbers it is clear that Pitta will be missed, but Clark is no slouch. He played a large % of his snaps in the slot (56.8) similar to Pitta (63.1) and is accustomed to this role in the offense. Losing Boldin and Pitta's production is tough, but if Stokley and Clark can maintain their pace from last season the drop-off may not be that significant.

 

 edit: got it

[gabefergy]

 edit: got it

They are correct.

[BmoreInBmore]

Newsflash Flacco isn't Peyton. Get these absurd notions out of your head that Brandon is going to replicate even half of what he did last season. In the two seasons prior to last he was a non-factor for the Giants and Seahawks. I want to know why we didn't even work Brandon Lloyd out before signing a veteran. 

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

Newsflash Flacco isn't Peyton. Get these absurd notions out of your head that Brandon is going to replicate even half of what he did last season. In the two seasons prior to last he was a non-factor for the Giants and Seahawks. I want to know why we didn't even work Brandon Lloyd out before signing a veteran. 

he's a nutcase that we can do without

[BmoreInBmore]

he's a nutcase that we can do without

He is the most talented receiver available and I wouldn't be so sure we can do without him. You know you are desperate, when after the first preseason game you bring in 37 year old Brandon Stokley; speaks volumes of what this front office and staff think of our in house options.  

[ellicottraven]

Newsflash Flacco isn't Peyton. Get these absurd notions out of your head that Brandon is going to replicate even half of what he did last season. In the two seasons prior to last he was a non-factor for the Giants and Seahawks. I want to know why we didn't even work Brandon Lloyd out before signing a veteran.

Remember, Ozzie is really close to Belichik. Maybe Ozzie knows something about Brandon Lloyd that we the fans don't. Or maybe the schemes don't work out well and he may not be seen as a fit, because he is an outside receiver and we have plenty of those...

[SeaHawk]

He is the most talented receiver available and I wouldn't be so sure we can do without him. You know you are desperate, when after the first preseason game you bring in 37 year old Brandon Stokley; speaks volumes of what this front office and staff think of our in house options.  

 

Lol, you're probably one of the guys who jumped on Rolando McClain's derailed bandwagon and pushed for us to bring him in, because "we couldn't do without him" and "we could work out his issues".... how did that one go for ya? Funny, my mind seems to draw to a blank here... who does he play for now??

[BmoreInBmore]

Remember, Ozzie is really close to Belichik. Maybe Ozzie knows something about Brandon Lloyd that we the fans don't. Or maybe the schemes don't work out well and he may not be seen as a fit, because he is an outside receiver and we have plenty of those...

 

All valid points, but entirely speculative. I didn't say we should sign him, only work him out. Would have liked to see us at least get a bearing on the best out there, before we inked one of the Vets.

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

He is the most talented receiver available and I wouldn't be so sure we can do without him. You know you are desperate, when after the first preseason game you bring in 37 year old Brandon Stokley; speaks volumes of what this front office and staff think of our in house options.  

the only (younger) WR that could've been worth our hassle to bring in for a medical and other sorts was Robinson (now that some clinic cleared him, sort of lol) - just like the 49rs did with Austin Collie, we could've looked into one of those "on his signature" kind of contracts... outside this option, can't see anything else that Ozzie hasn't done; he can still have a look at things if need still there when rosters trim down

[BmoreInBmore]

Lol, you're probably one of the guys who jumped on Rolando McClain's derailed bandwagon and pushed for us to bring him in, because "we couldn't do without him" and "we could work out his issues".... how did that one go for ya? Funny, my mind seems to draw to a blank here... who does he play for now??

 

You're probably one of those guys who assumes things and ends up looking like a fool. No, I disliked that signing and never once spoke optimistically about it. So, thanks for the worthless comment bro. 

[BmoreInBmore]

the only (younger) WR that could've been worth our hassle to bring in for a medical and other sorts was Robinson (now that some clinic cleared him, sort of lol) - just like the 49rs did with Austin Collie, we could've looked into one of those "on his signature" kind of contracts... outside this option, can't see anything else that Ozzie hasn't done; he can still have a look at things if need still there when rosters trim down

 

You're right in that there isn't much he could have/can do right now to bring in quality depth at WR. However, this looks like a reach move; and, bringing in sub par vets has only led to disappointment in recent years, i.e. Lee Evans, Kelley Washington, and T.J. Houshmanzadeh. I don't see what anyone has to lose by working out Lloyd to at least gauge where he is. 

[SeaHawk]

You're probably one of those guys who assumes things and ends up looking like a fool. No, I disliked that signing and never once spoke optimistically about it. So, thanks for the worthless comment bro. 

 

I would reply with something, but it would most likely just be deleted, even if I replied with politeness.