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[flaccopoe]

Yeah I mean I'm not disappointed with my team, but since hindsight is 20/20, I feel like my draft would have turned out much better if I stayed in the #5 slot.  Giving the random designation to some and changing others really destroyed the integrity of the league.  And like you said, everyone has different preferences.  You can't meet everyone's needs, so random is the only course of action.

Just look at my RBs and you'll see that I got heavily screwed.

[PuRock]

Just look at my RBs and you'll see that I got heavily screwed.

 

Hang on a second, your running backs got screwed because you neglected the position, not for your draft position.  I'd probably end up having an even more solid RB core drafting last than 1st.  

 

Here is your draft:

1. Cam Newton
2. Brandon Marshall
3. Andrew Luck
4. Jordy Nelson
5. Greg Olsen
6. Cecil Shorts
7. Anquan Boldin

Then you finally drafted your first RB in the 8th round w/ Mark Ingram!  Don't blame it on bad draft picks, you neglected the RB position (The most shallow position in the game).  You drafted Luck in the THIRD round to be your back-up QB after reaching for Cam in the 1st, Why!?!?

[flaccopoe]

Hang on a second, your running backs got screwed because you neglected the position, not for your draft position.  I'd probably end up having an even more solid RB core drafting last than 1st.  

 

Here is your draft:

1. Cam Newton
2. Brandon Marshall
3. Andrew Luck
4. Jordy Nelson
5. Greg Olsen
6. Cecil Shorts
7. Anquan Boldin

Then you finally drafted your first RB in the 8th round w/ Mark Ingram!  Don't blame it on bad draft picks, you neglected the RB position (The most shallow position in the game).  You drafted Luck in the THIRD round to be your back-up QB after reaching for Cam in the 1st, Why!?!?

 

All the RBs were already gone by the mid-2nd!  I think Ivory went at the beginning of the 2nd!  After that, I had no choice but to focus on WRs.

[flaccopoe]

Still need feedback on the SEA acquisition.

[flaccopoe]

Hang on a second, your running backs got screwed because you neglected the position, not for your draft position.  I'd probably end up having an even more solid RB core drafting last than 1st.  

 

Here is your draft:

1. Cam Newton
2. Brandon Marshall
3. Andrew Luck
4. Jordy Nelson
5. Greg Olsen
6. Cecil Shorts
7. Anquan Boldin

Then you finally drafted your first RB in the 8th round w/ Mark Ingram!  Don't blame it on bad draft picks, you neglected the RB position (The most shallow position in the game).  You drafted Luck in the THIRD round to be your back-up QB after reaching for Cam in the 1st, Why!?!?

 

It's worth noting that horus literally handed you Adrian Peterson in the Draft, so you can't rally speak to the situation.

[PuRock]

All the RBs were already gone by the mid-2nd!  I think Ivory went at the beginning of the 2nd!  After that, I had no choice but to focus on WRs.

 

Lamar Miller, David Wilson, Eddie Lacy, Chris Ivory went off the board in the 4th round, after you drafted a back-up QB.  Sproles, Montee Ball, Bradshaw went in the 5th round.  

 

Then you went Olsen-Cecil when guys like Mathews, Giovani, Richardson, Mendenhall , Vereen, DeAngle and BGJE were still on the board.

 

I didn't mind because I reaped the rewards (I know Crush did as well), picking up Sproles, Giovani, and Lacy at great value.  

 

Still need feedback on the SEA acquisition.

 

Just leave it be.  it is what it is now.  Crush also got Cutler, you got Floyd.  

[flaccopoe]

Lamar Miller, David Wilson, Eddie Lacy, Chris Ivory went off the board in the 4th round, after you drafted a back-up QB.  Sproles, Montee Ball, Bradshaw went in the 5th round.  

 

Then you went Olsen-Cecil when guys like Mathews, Giovani, Richardson, Mendenhall , Vereen, DeAngle and BGJE were still on the board.

 

I didn't mind because I reaped the rewards (I know Crush did as well), picking up Sproles, Giovani, and Lacy at great value.  

 

 

Just leave it be.  it is what it is now.  Crush also got Cutler, you got Floyd.  

 

How do you even know the Draft Order?  Anyway, the point is horus screwed multiple people over by throwing low draft picks at them.  With a mid-round pick, I could've drafted a franchise back in the 1st and Cam in the 2nd.  I didn't want to make a Ryan Matthews-esque gamble on a rookie back, at any rate.

[flaccopoe]

Luckily, Cam basically is a RB.

[PuRock]

It's worth noting that horus literally handed you Adrian Peterson in the Draft, so you can't rally speak to the situation.

 

Haha, having 1st pick in a large league is actually crutch.  I'd rather have your position in such a large league.  I drafted 13th in Gabe's league and ended up with S-Jax and Chris Johnson.  Love my RBs more in that league than this one, and that's a 16 team league.  A strategy which was available to you.  

 

Besides, the draft order has nothing to do with your overall draft strategy, or lack of it.  You hurt your team by reaching for CAM then drafting a back-up QB in the 3rd round. Having the draft order customized sucks because it wasn't random, but every spot in the draft has its advantages and disadvantage, its a matter of what strategy you employ.   

[flaccopoe]

Haha, having 1st pick in a large league is actually crutch.  I'd rather have your position in such a large league.  I drafted 13th in Gabe's league and ended up with S-Jax and Chris Johnson.  Love my RBs more in that league than this one, and that's a 16 team league.  A strategy which was available to you.  

 

Besides, the draft order has nothing to do with your overall draft strategy, or lack of it.  You hurt your team by reaching for CAM then drafting a back-up QB in the 3rd round. Having the draft order customized sucks because it wasn't random, but every spot in the draft has its advantages and disadvantage, its a matter of what strategy you employ.   

 

Uh, I can't stand S-Jax or CJ...

 

I'm still making the playoffs!  I have elite QBs, WRs, TE, K and D.  I'm making plans to pick up a feature back, too.  Seriously, how do you know the draft order, did you take screenshots?

[PuRock]

Uh, I can't stand S-Jax or CJ...

 

I'm still making the playoffs!  I have elite QBs, WRs, TE, K and D.  I'm making plans to pick up a feature back, too.  Seriously, how do you know the draft order, did you take screenshots?

 

You know you can look up draft results on any fantasy website.  Its right there on the main League homepage, in the menu bar.  

 

I always go back to see what I could have done with my pick (who I skipped over to draft).  

[flaccopoe]

You know you can look up draft results on any fantasy website.  Its right there on the main League homepage, in the menu bar.  

 

I always go back to see what I could have done with my pick (who I skipped over to draft).  

 

The funny thing is, RBs are the most-injury-prone players.  They get pounded at the end of most of their runs.

 

Do you know anyone willing to replace horus?  Kickoff is 6 days away.

[PuRock]

The funny thing is, RBs are the most-injury-prone players.  They get pounded at the end of most of their runs.

 

Do you know anyone willing to replace horus?  Kickoff is 6 days away.

 

That is why RBs are sort of like a double-edged sword.  You have to draft them early and often, but you do so drafting them with more question marks than the equivalent guys at WR or QB.  But its the nature of the fantasy football game.  RBs are hot commodities.  

 

Part of that is their scarcity, another part is that players (and experts) drive their overall value up.

 

I don't have anyone willing to take over for horus's team.  

[flaccopoe]

That is why RBs are sort of like a double-edged sword.  You have to draft them early and often, but you do so drafting them with more question marks than the equivalent guys at WR or QB.  But its the nature of the fantasy football game.  RBs are hot commodities.  

 

Part of that is their scarcity, another part is that players (and experts) drive their overall value up.

 

I don't have anyone willing to take over for horus's team.  

 

I've got Jennings for when Run DMC inevitably gets hurt again.

 

We'll just have to leave his team as is, then.  I guess everyone else will be guaranteed at least 1 win.

[BMOREHAWAII]

Let it go.  It's a D.  No harm there.  I don't think it'll be much of an advantage.

Sorry I didn't think I would get it. I can drop them if everyone would rather have it that way, just to be fair.

[CARavensFan]

It's worth noting that horus literally handed you Adrian Peterson in the Draft, so you can't rally speak to the situation.

 

But I can as I wasn't "gifted" a high pick, half the battle with a fantasy draft is taking into account value versus the depth at the position. Taking two QBs (in a non-two QB league) when you don't have any RBs has nothing to do with the position you were drafting, but rather the strategy (or lack thereof) you were using.

 

First off when you picked in the first there were other (better) options that reaching (IMO) for Cam, there were still solid RBs on the board and if you really wanted Cam you could have gotten him later as Rodgers and other good QBs were still on the board when you took Cam. You could still have gotten S-Jax, Chris Johnson, Steven Ridley, or MJD. Then you still could have taken Luck in the 3rd and he would have been your starter instead.

 

Just take a look and the draft results, the fact that your RBs are terrible has nothing to do with the position you were given in the draft, but on how you managed your draft.

 

Just as a point of comparison, here is my roster of guys that I made in another 14 team league (So the same pick as you), just to show you how having a late pick doesn't mean you're automatically screwed from the get go:

 

Important Dates

1.(14) Dez Bryant (Dal - WR)
2.(15) Stevan Ridley (NE - RB)
3.(42) Frank Gore (SF - RB)
4.(43) Reggie Wayne (Ind - WR)
5.(70) Andrew Luck (Ind - QB)
6.(71) Michael Vick (Phi - QB)
7.(98) Kyle Rudolph (Min - TE)
8.(99) Brian Hartline (Mia - WR)
9.(126) Cordarrelle Patterson (Min - WR)
10.(127) Andre Roberts (Ari - WR)
11.(154) Mohamed Sanu (Cin - WR)
12.(155) Tyler Eifert (Cin - TE)
13.(182) Joique Bell (Det - RB)
14.(183) Justin Tucker (Bal - K)
15.(210) Carolina (Car - DEF)

 

 

No is the roster perfect? No, in a 14-team league you are going to have holes no matter what, but I was able to get solid starters across the board with Dez and Wayne at WR and Ridley and Gore at RB and also have solid depth as well.

 

So please don't use all the drama around the draft order to excuse the fact that you drafted poorly.

 

[flaccopoe]

But I can as I wasn't "gifted" a high pick, half the battle with a fantasy draft is taking into account value versus the depth at the position. Taking two QBs (in a non-two QB league) when you don't have any RBs has nothing to do with the position you were drafting, but rather the strategy (or lack thereof) you were using.

 

First off when you picked in the first there were other (better) options that reaching (IMO) for Cam, there were still solid RBs on the board and if you really wanted Cam you could have gotten him later as Rodgers and other good QBs were still on the board when you took Cam. You could still have gotten S-Jax, Chris Johnson, Steven Ridley, or MJD. Then you still could have taken Luck in the 3rd and he would have been your starter instead.

 

Just take a look and the draft results, the fact that your RBs are terrible has nothing to do with the position you were given in the draft, but on how you managed your draft.

 

Just as a point of comparison, here is my roster of guys that I made in another 14 team league (So the same pick as you), just to show you how having a late pick doesn't mean you're automatically screwed from the get go:

 

Important Dates

1.(14) Dez Bryant (Dal - WR)
2.(15) Stevan Ridley (NE - RB)
3.(42) Frank Gore (SF - RB)
4.(43) Reggie Wayne (Ind - WR)
5.(70) Andrew Luck (Ind - QB)
6.(71) Michael Vick (Phi - QB)
7.(98) Kyle Rudolph (Min - TE)
8.(99) Brian Hartline (Mia - WR)
9.(126) Cordarrelle Patterson (Min - WR)
10.(127) Andre Roberts (Ari - WR)
11.(154) Mohamed Sanu (Cin - WR)
12.(155) Tyler Eifert (Cin - TE)
13.(182) Joique Bell (Det - RB)
14.(183) Justin Tucker (Bal - K)
15.(210) Carolina (Car - DEF)

 

 

No is the roster perfect? No, in a 14-team league you are going to have holes no matter what, but I was able to get solid starters across the board with Dez and Wayne at WR and Ridley and Gore at RB and also have solid depth as well.

 

So please don't use all the drama around the draft order to excuse the fact that you drafted poorly.

 

 

Your team is worse than mine.  You only have 2 feature backs and Joique.  Keep in mind Gore plays in the best defensive division and will lose reps to the read option.  You only have 1 reliable WR.  Rudolph is the most hot-and-cold TE ever.  As for the running backs you cited, Steven Jackon is old, shares a lot of reps with Rodgers, who I own, and plays for one of the most pass-happy teams in the NFL.  Chris Johnson is too inconsistent.  MJD is coming back from Lisfranc.  I didn't think Ridley would be taken in the 2nd.  Anyway, Cam basically is a RB and will benefit from Stewart's injury.

[Sizzlebshu]

And we have our first trade:

 

I get:  WR Dez Bryant

 

Horus gets:  RB Daryl Richardson and WR Michael Floyd

veto because this trade is a total jip

[flaccopoe]

veto because this trade is a total jip

 

Too late. :(

[CARavensFan]

Your team is worse than mine.  You only have 2 feature backs and Joique.  Keep in mind Gore plays in the best defensive division and will lose reps to the read option.  You only have 1 reliable WR.  Rudolph is the most hot-and-cold TE ever.  As for the running backs you cited, Steven Jackon is old, shares a lot of reps with Rodgers, who I own, and plays for one of the most pass-happy teams in the NFL.  Chris Johnson is too inconsistent.  MJD is coming back from Lisfranc.  I didn't think Ridley would be taken in the 2nd.  Anyway, Cam basically is a RB and will benefit from Stewart's injury.

 

 

Right because having only two fantasy studs is so much worse than Mark Ingram, Pierre Thomas, Jacquizz Rodgers, Joseph Randle, and Latavius Murray... Good luck trying to figure out which of those scubs is going to give you consistent production.

 

Check your facts on WRs because Bryant could easily be a Top 3 WR this year and Wayne the definition of consistent production.

 

I think you and I debating who has the better team is slightly pointless because we are going to be biased towards our own team. However, I would love to hear what everything things:

 

 

So guys who do you think drafted a better team, both were taken in a snake draft with the 14th overall pick to start. The only difference is the league I was in only had 15 rounds instead of 16.

 

Thoughts?

[PuRock]

I think you and I debating who has the better team is slightly pointless because we are going to be biased towards our own team. However, I would love to hear what everything things:

 

 

So guys who do you think drafted a better team, both were taken in a snake draft with the 14th overall pick to start. The only difference is the league I was in only had 15 rounds instead of 16.

 

Thoughts?

 

Do we really need to answer this CAR? You know the answer.  Obviously you understand draft-day value and position importance.  Poe on the other hand goes with who he wants to see on his team.  

 

Though watch, its usually the people that have no idea about value or FF in general that end up winning games.

 

But who am I to speak, I was gift wrapped AP (then pick 32 & 33).

[flaccopoe]

Right because having only two fantasy studs is so much worse than Mark Ingram, Pierre Thomas, Jacquizz Rodgers, Joseph Randle, and Latavius Murray... Good luck trying to figure out which of those scubs is going to give you consistent production.

 

Check your facts on WRs because Bryant could easily be a Top 3 WR this year and Wayne the definition of consistent production.

 

I think you and I debating who has the better team is slightly pointless because we are going to be biased towards our own team. However, I would love to hear what everything things:

 

 

So guys who do you think drafted a better team, both were taken in a snake draft with the 14th overall pick to start. The only difference is the league I was in only had 15 rounds instead of 16.

 

Thoughts?

 

I swapped most of my bench, lol.

[CARavensFan]

I swapped most of my bench, lol.

So a bunch of waiver wore picks up had more value than the guys you drafted?

Thanks for making my point that you had know idea what you are doing on draft day…

[flaccopoe]

So a bunch of waiver wore picks up had more value than the guys you drafted?

Thanks for making my point that you had know idea what you are doing on draft day…

 

We'll see who's on top after Week 1.

[Mt. Crushmore]

CAR's team is better.

[flaccopoe]

Let me know if you know anyone willing to take over horus' team!

[PuRock]

Flaccopoe you better not lose this game against Steelersprophet who hasn't set his lineup once.  He has starting two guys on bye, and Calvin Johnson who didn't play.

[PuRock]

Man, Julio Jones got 5.6 points for picking up Roddy White's fumble and running 18 yards.  Insane.  

[BMOREHAWAII]

Sorry for being inactive this past week, went to Vegas and lost track of everything.

[PuRock]

Sorry for being inactive this past week, went to Vegas and lost track of everything.

Glad to see you make it back and get active in TIME TO PUT IN BRANDON FREAKIN' JACOBS! 

 

I never envisioned Jacobs posting 24 points on me.  Luckily Cruz was only held to 8.