Forum NBA Mock Power Rankings

[SecretAgentMan]

To ber fair, Olynyk is more of an offensive C, but he's defended well in the Summer League, too.  Mingming is fresh off of a CBA Championship, so he'll manage well.  I'm using him more as a situational C; i.e. guarding the rim on key plays, rebounds for 2nd-chance opportunities, shot-blocking, the occasional dunk.

Yes, but Olynyk isn't going to be a superstar like you make him seem.

 

He might be a David Lee or Gasol or Dirk kind've player, but he won't be a superstar.

I like Irving, Gay, and Manimal.

 

I think Olapido will be good, but you have too many rookies. There's a good chance you have a few busts

[flaccopoe]

Yes, but Olynyk isn't going to be a superstar like you make him seem.

 

He might be a David Lee or Gasol or Dirk kind've player, but he won't be a superstar.

I like Irving, Gay, and Manimal.

 

I think Olapido will be good, but you have too many rookies. There's a good chance you have a few busts

 

Olynyk WILL be a superstar.  He's the most promising C in the Draft, with no downside of serious injuries.  Ask Geving, he's been hawking him in Summer League.  In real life, I could just trade rookies; I guess I'll have a ton of cap space and young talent to draw LeBron in 2014 FA, anyway.

[SecretAgentMan]

Olynyk WILL be a superstar.  He's the most promising C in the Draft, with no downside of serious injuries.  Ask Geving, he's been hawking him in Summer League.  In real life, I could just trade rookies; I guess I'll have a ton of cap space and young talent to draw LeBron in 2014 FA, anyway.

You mean one of the weakest drafts in recent memory?

[flaccopoe]

Also, Tony Snell is woefully underrated, imo.  But we shall see.

[flaccopoe]

You mean one of the weakest drafts in recent memory?

 

I don't know, none of them have started playing yet.  They could all be superstars or they could all get abducted by aliens.  All we have to go on fir now is Summer League, where Olynyk and Oladipo have shined.

[SecretAgentMan]

I don't know, none of them have started playing yet.  They could all be superstars or they could all get abducted by aliens.  All we have to go on fir now is Summer League, where Olynyk and Oladipo have shined.

Put Olynyk up vs Howard and Oladipo vs a fully healthy Kobe or Wade. You know, professionals that are guaranteed to make their respective teams. The vet always wins(unless you're a sensation). Not enough experience.

 

 

You're banking on the future, and that's fine. But the team isn't going to compete any time soon.

[flaccopoe]

Put Olynyk up vs Howard and Oladipo vs a fully healthy Kobe or Wade. You know, professionals that are guaranteed to make their respective teams. The vet always wins(unless you're a sensation). Not enough experience.

 

 

You're banking on the future, and that's fine. But the team isn't going to compete any time soon.

 

 

Luckily, my players are young and healthy, whereas the players you listed are old with serious injury histories. :P  Don't be surprised if my team makes a run like OKC or GSW (Jarrett Jack!!!).  And the more experienced team doesn't always win, at least not in the postseason.  Ask SAS. ;)

[flaccopoe]

Sure, he can become smarter. But I wouldn't bet on it. This is the guy that went overseas to cash in before joining the NBA instead of going to college, now after a couple of seasons of inconsistent play wants max money. There's a reason even the Bucks didn't give him an extension and let him be a RFA instead. He thinks he's all world, when he clearly isn't. Westbrook is trigger happy, and Durant will get his points anyways yes. But Westbrook is much more effective and makes better decisions than Jennings. Even tough Westbrook can be a bonehead too.

 

I don't see Jennings meshing with your team, playing third fiddle. That's all. I would take him on my team, only if I was severely lacking plaers that could create their own shot. I see drama in this teams future ;)

 

How would you assess Snell, Hardaway and Gobert in Summer League?

[flaccopoe]

“Even today, you saw where (Gobert) got a couple of rebounds out of his area. He didn't have to move his feet — he just reached over. So, he's going to be big for us.”

 

 

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865582880/Utah-Jazz-The-Stifle-Tower-Rudy-Gobert-making-a-big-first-impression.html?pg=all

[stm85]

I'm happy with the #4 spot. I think my team is the best (as everyone should) but I think it is a fair ranking and as long as it puts me with the title contenders I am good with it. I also think it is awesome that you consider my squad to be the one with the best halfcourt offense. However, I wonder why my team was omitted from the top 5 bench and rebounding categories? My bench unit has 2 proven scorers in Ilyasova and Knight, along with a shutdown defender in Brewer, along with a few other nice pieces. My bench unit is probably better than some NBA teams' starting lineups. As for rebounding, I built this group to be dominant on the boards, and with a big man rotation of Davis, Duncan, and Ilyasova, all of whom are excellent rebounders, to go along with a dominant rebounding SF in Anthony, I think I deserve to be top 5 there as well.

[flaccopoe]

Damn,  wish I could've goten Geving's take...

[SecretAgentMan]

Luckily, my players are young and healthy, whereas the players you listed are old with serious injury histories. :P  Don't be surprised if my team makes a run like OKC or GSW (Jarrett Jack!!!).  And the more experienced team doesn't always win, at least not in the postseason.  Ask SAS. ;)

Yes, but most of your team is players who have never played in the NBA.

They won't make a run like OKC because you don't have a superstar on Durant's level, or a shooter on Curry's level.

 

SAS lost because of Ginobli showing his age, and Lebron just dominating everyone. If Ginobli plays a good game SAS wins.

[flaccopoe]

Yes, but most of your team is players who have never played in the NBA.

They won't make a run like OKC because you don't have a superstar on Durant's level, or a shooter on Curry's level.

 

SAS lost because of Ginobli showing his age, and Lebron just dominating everyone. If Ginobli plays a good game SAS wins.

 

Duncan and Parker also dropped the ball at various points in the Finals, most infamously on Duncan's missed rebound bunny hop.  I'm fully confident in the leadership of Gay, Irving, Faried, Jack and Kirilenko.  All very capable scorers, too.

[SecretAgentMan]

Duncan and Parker also dropped the ball at various points in the Finals, most infamously on Duncan's missed rebound bunny hop. I'm fully confident in the leadership of Gay, Irving, Faried, Jack and Kirilenko. All very capable scorers, too.

They're good leaders but none are on a superstar level.
Irving is close, but isn't he injured too?

[flaccopoe]

They're good leaders but none are on a superstar level.
Irving is close, but isn't he injured too?

 

Irving's a superstar PG.  He's not injured right now, where did you hear that?  Gay's pretty nice, too.

[SecretAgentMan]

Irving's a superstar PG. He's not injured right now, where did you hear that? Gay's pretty nice, too.

Not IMO. Gay is too inconsistent but is a nice player

[flaccopoe]

Not IMO. Gay is too inconsistent but is a nice player

 

Irving's better than every PG except CP3 and a healthy Parker.  John Wall doesn't have the offensive talent that Irving does.  Rondo has the ACL tear.

[gabefergy]

Irving's better than every PG except CP3 and a healthy Parker.  John Wall doesn't have the offensive talent that Irving does.  Rondo has the ACL tear.

Westbrook is a better PG than Irving as well. Rondo when healthy is better.

[SecretAgentMan]

Irving's better than every PG except CP3 and a healthy Parker. John Wall doesn't have the offensive talent that Irving does. Rondo has the ACL tear.

Irving is a STAR.
Not a superstar. There's a difference

[flaccopoe]

Westbrook is a better PG than Irving as well. Rondo when healthy is better.

 

Nah, too reckless.  Doesn't pass the ball to his superstar, KD, enough, like a wise PG would do.  Anyway, he has a meniscus tear, so he coud be very rusty coming back.

[SecretAgentMan]

Westbrook is a better PG than Irving as well. Rondo when healthy is better.

Curry too

Arguable Conoley and Wall as well

[flaccopoe]

Irving is a STAR.
Not a superstar. There's a difference

 

All I know is CLE would  be basically winless without his leadership.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

While he jacks up too many shots in real life, he's a capable passer and on the team I've built, he would have no choice but to distribute more or cede major minutes to Bledsoe and Billups.

Beyond age, there's little to not like about West; he's capable scorer from all areas within the arc, rebounds well and plays tough D.

As for Drummond, his game clearly needs refinement (chiefly his FT shooting), but his per-36 average lines of 13.8 points, 60.8% shooting, 13.2 rebounds, 1.7 steals and 2.8 blocks and his averages over 10 games as the starting C (11.1 points, 67.1 % shooting, 8.2 rebounds, 1.2 steals and 1.1 blocks illustrate his potential, especially when you consider he was the youngest player in the league.

I know it doesn't matter too much but he wasn't the youngest player... MKG was the youngest player in the NBA.

[flaccopoe]

Curry too

Arguable Conoley and Wall as well

 

Glass Ankles is just a 3-pt savant.  Wall, as I pointed out, is a much worse shooter.  Conley isn't in the same conversation with any of these Gs, lol.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

Glass Ankles is just a 3-pt savant. Wall, as I pointed out, is a much worse shooter. Conley isn't in the same conversation with any of these Gs, lol.

I'll take Wall all day everyday over Kyrie. He plays a much more well rounded game despite his shooting woes.

[codizzle]

Put Olynyk up against Dwight Howard. Marc Gasol. Bynum. Both of the Nikola's. Any good defensive center .He'd get eaten alive.

Mingming has never played NBA before. You have to have some degree of skill to be a successful center in the NBA.

+35

[flaccopoe]

I know it doesn't matter too much but he wasn't the youngest player... MKG was the youngest player in the NBA.

 

Young, but very capable.  The only bright side to CHA's season.

[codizzle]

Glass Ankles is just a 3-pt savant. Wall, as I pointed out, is a much worse shooter. Conley isn't in the same conversation with any of these Gs, lol.

I'll take Conley any day...

I'll take the PG that controls the floor and plays defense.. And can stay healthy

[Ed_Reed20]

Sure, he can become smarter. But I wouldn't bet on it. This is the guy that went overseas to cash in before joining the NBA instead of going to college, now after a couple of seasons of inconsistent play wants max money. There's a reason even the Bucks didn't give him an extension and let him be a RFA instead. He thinks he's all world, when he clearly isn't. Westbrook is trigger happy, and Durant will get his points anyways yes. But Westbrook is much more effective and makes better decisions than Jennings. Even tough Westbrook can be a bonehead too.

 

I don't see Jennings meshing with your team, playing third fiddle. That's all. I would take him on my team, only if I was severely lacking plaers that could create their own shot. I see drama in this teams future ;)

 

You might not bet on it but in a winning environment, on a team with more established players, I think Jennings would improve his decision-making and become a better player. 

 

He didn't just go to Italy to earn money (not sure why anyone would hold that against a young guy trying to take care of his family), he gained valuable experience playing against other pro players. Of course the Bucks weren't going to match his ridiculous demands but he's not the first nor will he be the last player to have an over-inflated sense of worth come free agency. I don't need Jennings to be Westbrook to field a quality team. 

 

There's going to drama within any team that has multiple capable scorers. Considering how stacked a lot of teams are, my team wouldn't be the only one to suffer this.  Regardless, I don't believe Jennings taking a backseat to Durant and West would be that big of an issue. Unlike those two and other players on my team like Billups and Pierce, he's won nothing, nor has he come close. Hypothetically, he would be phased out if he cause trouble and shipped off. Again, I've got another high-upside PG in Bledsoe. 

[flaccopoe]

I'll take Wall all day everyday over Kyrie. He plays a much more well rounded game despite his shooting woes.

 

To be fair, Wall's several years older than Irving.