CB Jimmy Smith

[gabefergy]

Daryl Smith and Huff were doubling a TE.  If that was the call, then Jimmy had the play wrong.  Someone clearly made a mistake.  Not sure who it was, but I'm likely to say Huff.

It's pretty clear that Huff made the mistake or it was a terrible play call. Why would you put the offense's best weapon (Jones) 1v1 with no help but double the TE underneath? That makes zero sense.

[Bullrush]

Right. Huff played his assignment, he was supposed to cover the TE or whatever that was and he stuck with his man. Elam was supposed to either roam in the middle and play zone inside since the corners had the outside coverage, or he just totally messed up and got confused and forgot to cover his man (Jones) which I doubt. I'm just guessing he was a little lost there in zone coverage, typical for young safeties, they don't have the instincts to react that fast and cover that much ground. Plus Ryan had all day in the pocket. But my point is just that the bashing of Jimmy isn't fair. Neither is bashing Elam, he's a rookie, these things happen. Basically what I said about Jimmy, the young DB's will make mistakes here and there, but that's how they learn. They can make mistakes now, it doesn't cost us anything in the preseason. :)

[ravensdan]

This is a great post, and very good analysis. The first catch he let up I believe we were in cover 3, meaning he had the deep third of the field. Jones drove him backwards and made a quick move inside that should be open against that coverage. That's really not defensible by Jimmy given his responsibility in the zone.

The second play I agree, he just got beat by Jones. He wasnt that far off though and stuck with him making the tackle right after the catch.

The TD catch, Huff really was at fault. He bit on the underneath route leaving Jimmy out to dry. He was playing outside leverage expecting help inside that wasnt there.

Even the fade wasnt that bad IMO. He had tight coverage, and turned to try to make a play on the ball but it was just perfectly placed. It was just a great throw beating good coverage.

This is the correct analysis 100%. If you don't agree with this you really don't understand what's going on out there. Should probably educate yourself a bit more before making an outlandish post.

I was reading all the posts of how bad jimmy played before watching. Then once I had actually watched the game those opinions were obviously misguided.

[Bullrush]

It's pretty clear that Huff made the mistake or it was a terrible play call. Why would you put the offense's best weapon (Jones) 1v1 with no help but double the TE underneath? That makes zero sense.

 

Well it's no secret that TE's are the #1 or #2 targets in the redzone, they will beat LB's any time 1 on 1, well most of the time. The safeties' main responsibility is to cover TE's, usually. Plus Huff is not a rookie or somebody who struggles in coverage, it's not like he got fooled, he went after the TE right from the get go, that was his assignment. Of course I don't know the exact play in the playbook but to me it looks kind of obvious. There was no need for him to just gamble there, it's not like Ryan tried to get the ball there. He wasn't guessing, he just stuck with whoever he had to cover.

 

Also Jones wasn't 1 on 1, Jimmy had the outside, his help was Elam in the middle to prevent the inside pass, that's what Jon Ogden pointed out as well right after the touchdown. But let's say Huff messed up there, so what was Elam doing still? He's not doing anything on that play, he's not covering anybody, he just tries to read the QB without knowing where the receivers are, you can't make plays that way. He just looks lost.

[ravensdan]

Well, Jimmy Smith may as well be Jimmy Doss and Tandon Doss may as well be called Tandon Smith. These two players with all the potential just disappoint when it counts. They have the size, the talent and the potential to be stars, but for reasons unbeknownst to mankind, they just don't capitalize!

Actually all of jimmy smiths best games were in the playoffs so that statement is factually incorrect.

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

Actually all of jimmy smiths best games were in the playoffs so that statement is factually incorrect.

for two years running, but people's mind usually works on a short(er) span...

 

ps: anyway, you're up in our game

[gabefergy]

Well it's no secret that TE's are the #1 or #2 targets in the redzone, they will beat LB's any time 1 on 1, well most of the time. The safeties' main responsibility is to cover TE's, usually. Plus Huff is not a rookie or somebody who struggles in coverage, it's not like he got fooled, he went after the TE right from the get go, that was his assignment. Of course I don't know the exact play in the playbook but to me it looks kind of obvious. There was no need for him to just gamble there, it's not like Ryan tried to get the ball there. He wasn't guessing, he just stuck with whoever he had to cover.

 

Also Jones wasn't 1 on 1, Jimmy had the outside, his help was Elam in the middle to prevent the inside pass, that's what Jon Ogden pointed out as well right after the touchdown. But let's say Huff messed up there, so what was Elam doing still? He's not doing anything on that play, he's not covering anybody, he just tries to read the QB without knowing where the receivers are, you can't make plays that way. He just looks lost.

This is incorrect. We were playing two high safeties. Each safety had responsibility for half the EZ. There was a route run on Elam's side of the field as well so he can't just ignore that half. Huff clearly made a decision that the TE on the underneath crossing route was the bigger threat than the All-Pro WR. I cant't agree with that call, although perhaps part of the blame goes to Pees for allowing his safety to freelance in that situation. He was simply too aggressive here and got burned for it.

[cobrajet]

He's barely getting any playing time, and you can't blame every catch on him, there's a lot of other stuff going on that people don't know. He needs playing time in order to make progress, every young guy has to go through that, they're growing pains and teams usually deal with it in order to help the player to reach his potential. Right now Corey might be the safer option but I don't see any upside with Corey. Jimmy has Pro Bowl upside and lockdown skills. He's not gonna get there unless we let him be a full time corner. And Corey is not exactly a rock solid starter either, he hasn't proven that yet. He's been a backup and special teamer for 5-6 years, he had some good games last season but also some that weren't exactly great. So we don't know what we have in Corey just yet. Jimmy had a great game in week one, had a great camp, let's not act like he's been struggling the whole time, and let's not ignore all that just because of a couple "bad" plays in a pre season game where it wasn't just his fault, the secondary as a unit messed up. Yet everybody is calling him out when the other guys messed up just like he did or even more than he did, guys like Corey or Elam.

 

He wouldn't go on record saying that the reports of him getting beat like a drum are wrong unless he really wanted to let people know that it's not the case. And I don't think he's making excuses, he would lose the entire locker room if he did that. They all know what he said is true so he can make those type of comments, without really calling anybody out but still letting everybody know it's not fair to call him out like that because like he said they don't know what's going on with the coverages.

Fair enough, maybe he just needs more game time experience, but I still lack confidence in him at this particular time. I do think Corey Graham played pretty well last year, but in all fairness I thought Josh Wilson played well for us, but then went to the Redskins and I watched games where he struggled. I also thought Foxworth played very well the year before his knee injury, but when he came back he was not the same (especially that Titans game where Kenny Britt owned him). The CB position can be a funny position. Guys play well some weeks and look very bad on others. I won't apologize for saying that Jimmy Smith looked horrible against Julio Jones, but I understand that Julio Jones could certainly make and CB look horrible. I am not ready to give up on Jimmy Smith and still feel he can develop, but IMHO I think he should be the #3 behind Webb and Graham at this point in time. He will still get playing time and could possibly move up the depth chart in the future. If he develops into anything close to my man Lardarius Webb, I will jump for joy! I wish Jimmy nothing but the best. It is common knowledge that he had some character concerns when he was drafted and I appreciate the fact that there has been no issues with that since his arrival.

[Bullrush]

This is incorrect. We were playing two high safeties. Each safety had responsibility for half the EZ. There was a route run on Elam's side of the field as well so he can't just ignore that half. Huff clearly made a decision that the TE on the underneath crossing route was the bigger threat than the All-Pro WR. I cant't agree with that call, although perhaps part of the blame goes to Pees for allowing his safety to freelance in that situation. He was simply too aggressive here and got burned for it.

Huff went right to the guy he was assigned to, at least that's what I'm seeing. Besides, if he doesn't go to the TE it's a TD because Arthur Brown was in no position to break up that pass. Based on everything we know or I know I just find it hard to just say Huff blew the play there, somebody who is regarded as a great cover safety and who has a lot of experience and who at least went to cover somebody, rather than a rookie who isn't exactly known for his cover skills and who sort of looks lost on that play with nobody to cover. If you're gonna make a mistake make it full speed. Maybe Huff made a mistake, but he's sticking with his guy and takes out 1 option for Matt to throw the ball to. Elam doesn't do anything there. So either way one tries to spin it, in the end I keep blaming Elam for not covering anybody. I have more faith in Huff making the right decision there based on his track record. But I can't prove anything so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. ;)

[gabefergy]

Huff went right to the guy he was assigned to, at least that's what I'm seeing. Besides, if he doesn't go to the TE it's a TD because Arthur Brown was in no position to break up that pass. Based on everything we know or I know I just find it hard to just say Huff blew the play there, somebody who is regarded as a great cover safety and who has a lot of experience and who at least went to cover somebody, rather than a rookie who isn't exactly known for his cover skills and who sort of looks lost on that play with nobody to cover. If you're gonna make a mistake make it full speed. Maybe Huff made a mistake, but he's sticking with his guy and takes out 1 option for Matt to throw the ball to. Elam doesn't do anything there. So either way one tries to spin it, in the end I keep blaming Elam for not covering anybody. I have more faith in Huff making the right decision there based on his track record. But I can't prove anything so I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. ;)

The TE was not his responsibility. At best he had the freedom to make an aggressive play, which he did and ended up badly. By the way Jimmy was playing though, it's obvious he was expecting inside help and by the play of Elam it is clear that the safeties (both him and Huff) had responsibility in the EZ.

[izvoodoo]

The TE was not his responsibility. At best he had the freedom to make an aggressive play, which he did and ended up badly. By the way Jimmy was playing though, it's obvious he was expecting inside help and by the play of Elam it is clear that the safeties (both him and Huff) had responsibility in the EZ.

Yeah, someone made a mistake.  

[Bullrush]

The TE was not his responsibility. At best he had the freedom to make an aggressive play, which he did and ended up badly. By the way Jimmy was playing though, it's obvious he was expecting inside help and by the play of Elam it is clear that the safeties (both him and Huff) had responsibility in the EZ.

 

You can't say who his responsibility was but you sort of try to make it look that way. You don't know. Again, you can't just ignore all the facts and what we do know from looking at the players and the way they looked on that play. Elam looked lost, there is absolutely no way the coaching staff said you know what, just stand there and wait for Ryan to throw the ball to you. Just no way. There is also no way they asked him to roam free and read one of the best QB's in the league who makes zero mistakes almost. Elam messed up there, he didn't cover anybody, that's the main thing I'm looking at. We don't know what Huff was supposed to do, but it looks pretty clear to me that his assignment was the TE. You're saying no and your argument basically is that they wouldn't let Jimmy cover Jones 1 on 1. I wouldn't think so either, but again, considering Elam wasn't covering ANYBODY there my thinking is it was HIS job to defend the middle, the zone. Not Huff's, having both safeties play zone at that spot would have been somewhat silly don't you think? A dumpoff to the flat (RB/FB/TE) would have easily resulted in a touchdown, that makes no sense, especially not when you line up Arthur with their TE in the redzone man to man, of course you need a safety there to help him out and that's what Huff did. I just don't see the same thing you're seeing. You're sort of defending Elam here a little by trying to make Huff the scapegoat. Had Huff been in Elams spot I would have said the same thing about him. Standing around and waiting for the QB to throw the ball to you is not pro football, there is just no way Elam did his job on that play. He's standing in between a bunch of Falcons receivers with no assignment, how can you defend that or blame Huff who had perfect coverage and took out the TE who otherwise would have been open? I'll just leave it at that, we'll never agree. ;)

[gabefergy]

You can't say who his responsibility was but you sort of try to make it look that way. You don't know. Again, you can't just ignore all the facts and what we do know from looking at the players and the way they looked on that play. Elam looked lost, there is absolutely no way the coaching staff said you know what, just stand there and wait for Ryan to throw the ball to you. Just no way. There is also no way they asked him to roam free and read one of the best QB's in the league who makes zero mistakes almost. Elam messed up there, he didn't cover anybody, that's the main thing I'm looking at. We don't know what Huff was supposed to do, but it looks pretty clear to me that his assignment was the TE. You're saying no and your argument basically is that they wouldn't let Jimmy cover Jones 1 on 1. I wouldn't think so either, but again, considering Elam wasn't covering ANYBODY there my thinking is it was HIS job to defend the middle, the zone. Not Huff's, having both safeties play zone at that spot would have been somewhat silly don't you think? A dumpoff to the flat (RB/FB/TE) would have easily resulted in a touchdown, that makes no sense, especially not when you line up Arthur with their TE in the redzone man to man, of course you need a safety there to help him out and that's what Huff did. I just don't see the same thing you're seeing. You're sort of defending Elam here a little by trying to make Huff the scapegoat. Had Huff been in Elams spot I would have said the same thing about him. Standing around and waiting for the QB to throw the ball to you is not pro football, there is just no way Elam did his job on that play. He's standing in between a bunch of Falcons receivers with no assignment, how can you defend that or blame Huff who had perfect coverage and took out the TE who otherwise would have been open? I'll just leave it at that, we'll never agree. ;)

You don't understand basic coverage concepts so this is a pointless argument. You think every player is going to matched up man to man?

[arnie_uk]

You can't say who his responsibility was but you sort of try to make it look that way. You don't know. Again, you can't just ignore all the facts and what we do know from looking at the players and the way they looked on that play. Elam looked lost, there is absolutely no way the coaching staff said you know what, just stand there and wait for Ryan to throw the ball to you. Just no way. There is also no way they asked him to roam free and read one of the best QB's in the league who makes zero mistakes almost. Elam messed up there, he didn't cover anybody, that's the main thing I'm looking at. We don't know what Huff was supposed to do, but it looks pretty clear to me that his assignment was the TE. You're saying no and your argument basically is that they wouldn't let Jimmy cover Jones 1 on 1. I wouldn't think so either, but again, considering Elam wasn't covering ANYBODY there my thinking is it was HIS job to defend the middle, the zone. Not Huff's, having both safeties play zone at that spot would have been somewhat silly don't you think? A dumpoff to the flat (RB/FB/TE) would have easily resulted in a touchdown, that makes no sense, especially not when you line up Arthur with their TE in the redzone man to man, of course you need a safety there to help him out and that's what Huff did. I just don't see the same thing you're seeing. You're sort of defending Elam here a little by trying to make Huff the scapegoat. Had Huff been in Elams spot I would have said the same thing about him. Standing around and waiting for the QB to throw the ball to you is not pro football, there is just no way Elam did his job on that play. He's standing in between a bunch of Falcons receivers with no assignment, how can you defend that or blame Huff who had perfect coverage and took out the TE who otherwise would have been open? I'll just leave it at that, we'll never agree. ;)

what ur saying is elam is manning his zone and stuck to his assignment

[Bullrush]

You don't understand basic coverage concepts so this is a pointless argument. You think every player is going to matched up man to man?

Way to prove me wrong there buddy, I can't argue with those facts. The sad thing is you still haven't realized that you don't know what the playcall was, it's an illusion you have in your head. As soon as you realize that we'll make some progress here. Until then you can continue to act like you invented football. How come you're typing on a keyboard in a Ravens board, the way you act like you know exactly what happened you should be scouting defenses in the NFL. You make Bill Walsh look like an amateur. FYI: Postcount doesn't indicate your knowledge of football. Another illusion you have.
 

@Like a Boss!

Um no, I'm assuming he got lost/confused and didn't know who to cover, whatever his assignment was I don't know, maybe it was zone, maybe he just got lost and didn't know who to cover and started reading the QB instead. What I can say safely is that Huff played his man and his assignment. You have to be pretty delusional to think that a good cover safety with the type of experience he has would just randomly run down the field and cover somebody he's not supposed to cover and where the QB didn't even attempt to throw the ball to. There was absolutely no need for him to do that unless it was his assignment.

[flynismo]

I'll say this about Jimmy --

I've always been a huge fan of his. Love the guy and his potential.

 

He is now entering year three, it is TIME FOR HIM TO STEP UP. A lot of you guys are making much ado out of nothing; Smith is not playing nearly as bad as some make it sound.

 

However, he was not brought here to be a solid CB. He was brought here to shut down the AJ Green's of the world.

 

As it stands, if preseason ended today, Smith has not done enough to earn the starting job. That would belong to Webb and Graham. Which is both exciting and disappointing to me.

 

The Jimmy was my offseason pick to be our breakout player of the year. There's still plenty of time for that prediction to come true, but it is going to take a lot of hard work for it to happen for him....

[The Raven]

You can't say who his responsibility was but you sort of try to make it look that way. You don't know. Again, you can't just ignore all the facts and what we do know from looking at the players and the way they looked on that play. Elam looked lost, there is absolutely no way the coaching staff said you know what, just stand there and wait for Ryan to throw the ball to you. Just no way. There is also no way they asked him to roam free and read one of the best QB's in the league who makes zero mistakes almost. Elam messed up there, he didn't cover anybody, that's the main thing I'm looking at. We don't know what Huff was supposed to do, but it looks pretty clear to me that his assignment was the TE. You're saying no and your argument basically is that they wouldn't let Jimmy cover Jones 1 on 1. I wouldn't think so either, but again, considering Elam wasn't covering ANYBODY there my thinking is it was HIS job to defend the middle, the zone. Not Huff's, having both safeties play zone at that spot would have been somewhat silly don't you think? A dumpoff to the flat (RB/FB/TE) would have easily resulted in a touchdown, that makes no sense, especially not when you line up Arthur with their TE in the redzone man to man, of course you need a safety there to help him out and that's what Huff did. I just don't see the same thing you're seeing. You're sort of defending Elam here a little by trying to make Huff the scapegoat. Had Huff been in Elams spot I would have said the same thing about him. Standing around and waiting for the QB to throw the ball to you is not pro football, there is just no way Elam did his job on that play. He's standing in between a bunch of Falcons receivers with no assignment, how can you defend that or blame Huff who had perfect coverage and took out the TE who otherwise would have been open? I'll just leave it at that, we'll never agree. ;)

 

Dude, it was a simple coverage concept. It was blatantly obvious. You say we don't know from looking at the players, but that's false. An educated football mind can certainly discern the difference between man coverage, zone coverage, and certain coverage shells simply by looking at the positioning and technique of the players. It's simple.

 

Edit: Rewatched the play about ten times, and it's obviously a 2 man under look. 

[ravensfan2430]

I'm waiting for him to turn/snap his head around.

[Gordo52]

I heard on the radio he doesn't like playing press coverage. I don't like how he said that's what he would be best at. I wish he would just bump receivers at the LOS, do anything to annoy them.

[izvoodoo]

I'm waiting for him to turn/snap his head around.

He's turned his head recently..

 

Dude has to get his hands on the ball.

[gabefergy]

Way to prove me wrong there buddy, I can't argue with those facts. The sad thing is you still haven't realized that you don't know what the playcall was, it's an illusion you have in your head. As soon as you realize that we'll make some progress here. Until then you can continue to act like you invented football. How come you're typing on a keyboard in a Ravens board, the way you act like you know exactly what happened you should be scouting defenses in the NFL. You make Bill Walsh look like an amateur. FYI: Postcount doesn't indicate your knowledge of football. Another illusion you have.
 

@Like a Boss!

Um no, I'm assuming he got lost/confused and didn't know who to cover, whatever his assignment was I don't know, maybe it was zone, maybe he just got lost and didn't know who to cover and started reading the QB instead. What I can say safely is that Huff played his man and his assignment. You have to be pretty delusional to think that a good cover safety with the type of experience he has would just randomly run down the field and cover somebody he's not supposed to cover and where the QB didn't even attempt to throw the ball to. There was absolutely no need for him to do that unless it was his assignment.

I have no illusions, but I understand football and what different coverages look like. You can try to discredit that all you want, but it's very obvious from watching the play what the play call was. Like The Raven said it's a 2 man under look. If you don't understand what that means I will explain it. You have two safeties up high, that are basically splitting the End Zone in half. It's their job to man the middle of the EZ and take away the very throw that we got beat on. You have man-coverage underneath with the 2 LBs matched up on the TE and RB and the 3 CBs on the 3 WRs. It is the responsibilty of the safeties in the EZ to take away the inside while the CBs dont get beat to the outside. It is a very basic coverage. What happened on this play is Huff saw the crossing TE as a threat and left his responsibility in the EZ to take him away. This leaves Julio Jones wide open as all he has to do is make a quick cut to the inside with Smith playing outside leverage. Meanwhile Matt Elam is exactly where he is supposed to be. Taking away the inside slant from the WR on the far side of the field. 

[arnie_uk]

Way to prove me wrong there buddy, I can't argue with those facts. The sad thing is you still haven't realized that you don't know what the playcall was, it's an illusion you have in your head. As soon as you realize that we'll make some progress here. Until then you can continue to act like you invented football. How come you're typing on a keyboard in a Ravens board, the way you act like you know exactly what happened you should be scouting defenses in the NFL. You make Bill Walsh look like an amateur. FYI: Postcount doesn't indicate your knowledge of football. Another illusion you have.

@Like a Boss!
Um no, I'm assuming he got lost/confused and didn't know who to cover, whatever his assignment was I don't know, maybe it was zone, maybe he just got lost and didn't know who to cover and started reading the QB instead. What I can say safely is that Huff played his man and his assignment. You have to be pretty delusional to think that a good cover safety with the type of experience he has would just randomly run down the field and cover somebody he's not supposed to cover and where the QB didn't even attempt to throw the ball to. There was absolutely no need for him to do that unless it was his assignment.

huff was pulled immediately after it. Even if u dont know football thats a tell tale sign he made an error

[Bullrush]

Dude, it was a simple coverage concept. It was blatantly obvious. You say we don't know from looking at the players, but that's false. An educated football mind can certainly discern the difference between man coverage, zone coverage, and certain coverage shells simply by looking at the positioning and technique of the players. It's simple.

Edit: Rewatched the play about ten times, and it's obviously a 2 man under look.

And I will tell you again you have no idea what you're talking about. You have absolutely no clue who was supposed to do what and whether somebody played the wrong coverage. Could you please realize at some point that you are just assuming stuff based on what you think went on? How hard is that to understand? This is exactly what Jimmy meant, people on the outside have absolutely no clue what's going on in terms of coverages and the breakdowns. One playing the wrong coverage and you make the wrong assumption. But whatever, you'll never understand it seems. Keep scouting those defenses, Rex Ryan Jr. it's so simple that players even have to point out to you that you have no clue what's going on there, yet the man behind the keyboard who in all likelihood never played football before knows better, let alone at a competitive level.

Can you analyze all the coverages we played on defense please? I'm honestly interested in knowing that. You could make a lot of money with that. But hey who needs money right. Nothing beats talking about how big of an expert you are. You telling somebody how obvious playcall x was doesn't make it true or any truer the more you repeat it. You have no idea, you are assuming something. Why don't you understand that?

[Bullrush]

huff was pulled immediately after it. Even if u dont know football thats a tell tale sign he made an error

Again you're guessing. It's preseason, every starter gets pulled at some point. There are absolutely no reports that he got pulled or made a mistake on that play. I could care less, if I'm wrong I will admit it. I'm not defending Huff or bashing Elam because I like or hate the other guy.

[gabefergy]

And I will tell you again you have no idea what you're talking about. You have absolutely no clue who was supposed to do what and whether somebody played the wrong coverage. Could you please realize at some point that you are just assuming stuff based on what you think went on? How hard is that to understand? This is exactly what Jimmy meant, people on the outside have absolutely no clue what's going on in terms of coverages and the breakdowns. One playing the wrong coverage and you make the wrong assumption. But whatever, you'll never understand it seems. Keep scouting those defenses, Rex Ryan Jr. it's so simple that players even have to point out to you that you have no clue what's going on there, yet the man behind the keyboard who in all likelihood never played football before knows better, let alone at a competitive level.

Can you analyze all the coverages we played on defense please? I'm honestly interested in knowing that. You could make a lot of money with that. But hey who needs money right. Nothing beats talking about how big of an expert you are. You telling somebody how obvious playcall x was doesn't make it true or any truer the more you repeat it. You have no idea, you are assuming something. Why don't you understand that?

And once again you are wrong. When you see players line up in man coverage with two safeties deep. It's obvious what the coverage is. I'm sorry if you don't understand that. What Jimmy meant is people like you have no idea what the coverage is because you think Huff should be playing man on a TE lined up on the opposite side of the field while Matt Elam is playing some magical  centerfield position where he covers every single person the in End Zone.

[arnie_uk]

And I will tell you again you have no idea what you're talking about. You have absolutely no clue who was supposed to do what and whether somebody played the wrong coverage. Could you please realize at some point that you are just assuming stuff based on what you think went on? How hard is that to understand? This is exactly what Jimmy meant, people on the outside have absolutely no clue what's going on in terms of coverages and the breakdowns. One playing the wrong coverage and you make the wrong assumption. But whatever, you'll never understand it seems. Keep scouting those defenses, Rex Ryan Jr. it's so simple that players even have to point out to you that you have no clue what's going on there, yet the man behind the keyboard who in all likelihood never played football before knows better, let alone at a competitive level.

Can you analyze all the coverages we played on defense please? I'm honestly interested in knowing that. You could make a lot of money with that. But hey who needs money right. Nothing beats talking about how big of an expert you are. You telling somebody how obvious playcall x was doesn't make it true or any truer the more you repeat it. You have no idea, you are assuming something. Why don't you understand that?

so let me get this straight. Ur accusing him of guesswork and getting sarky yet u say huff went with his man and elam made the mistake?

So by your logic u must have had a headset on and heard the play call to know all this?

[arnie_uk]

Look bullrush do u have access to all 22 film. The sky view coaches film?

[Moderator 3]

Gently, people. Treat each other kindly and avoid insults. You can disagree without getting nasty.

[izvoodoo]

huff was pulled immediately after it. Even if u dont know football thats a tell tale sign he made an error

They also let Omar Brown play with the 1s.

[display name]

I would like to have additional time to evaluate Jimmy during the next two preseason games.