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[Dubs]

Fair enough. I do think his arm strength can get a little better over time--he is very young still and good mechanics can help a little. I dont remember Drew Brees being mentioned as a QB with a great arm, rather it was kinda like Dalton. So I think he can help his arm strength, not a huge amount but enough to make the leap. I would add a couple things, you may see them similar to Alex Smith, as they are both very good scramblers and underrated athletes. I get the argument you need to step up your game to win a SB but it took Joe Flacco a couple years to do that--I would say he did in year four for Joe, Eli Manning was in year four...I just feel he gets measured by a different stick at times and see no reason why he cannot do what Joe and Eli did with the team he has and the team I have built

[gabefergy]

I'm not saying Dalton can't win it all, I just havent seen anything to this point to suggest he can. It's definitely too early to write him off, but I wouldnt sing his praises either. He's very much in the "wait and see" category for me along with guys like Matthew Stafford, Josh Freeman, and Sam Bradford.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

Its gonna be awhile til SAM finishes all the teams lol

[GrimCoconut]

Its gonna be awhile til SAM finishes all the teams lol

Fine by me as long as he waits for me to make my next pick before going after mine lol

[The Oakland Cathedral]

Fine by me as long as he waits for me to make my next pick before going after mine lol

Tebow Time!?!

[ravensdan]

Its not that I think he is special or anything near I just think he is a very good young QB who gets unfairly criticized. i dont think he will ever be in that elite or near elite range but I think he can win a Superbowl and guide a team similar to Eli Manning...I have a couple reasons why I like him. 1) he has gone to the playoffs in his first two years as a pro, yes he has not won any games yet but he has made the Bengals finally a consistent team. 2) His run game has be skeptical (benson did have a decent year once) but for a young QB he has been asked to shoulder alot and I have not seen a QB who is shying away from it or not able to be that guy they are asking for. 3) His numbers are pretty good, better than Flaccos..if your a number person. 4) I like his red hair. 5) His facial gestures at times make me laugh. 6) I think he is on the verge of and could have a big run in the playoffs at any point as long as the Bengals owner does not let everyone walk

I do have concerns against arm strength but he has proven he can play in the league and he will never be a Joe Flacco or Jay Cutler type. That is why I built my team around YAC guys in Wright and Little. I also agree he has yet to step up in 'big' games but there are not many young QBs who are not special/elite that do in their first two years.

I have to disagree with your comparison of Andy and Eli. Manning can make all the throws and has never been limited there. His accuracy is not as precise as his brothers but he has the arm strength and a superior understanding of the game and reading defenses. Now he wasn't there early in his career so dalton could follow in his footsteps in that way. But I also find dalton quite limited and at best Alex smith. I also don't care for stone hands little who has hurt a number of Cleveland qbs. Other than those two players I really like your team. Your d is very complete and dangerous.

[Dubs]

I have to disagree with your comparison of Andy and Eli. Manning can make all the throws and has never been limited there. His accuracy is not as precise as his brothers but he has the arm strength and a superior understanding of the game and reading defenses. Now he wasn't there early in his career so dalton could follow in his footsteps in that way. But I also find dalton quite limited and at best Alex smith. I also don't care for stone hands little who has hurt a number of Cleveland qbs. Other than those two players I really like your team. Your d is very complete and dangerous.

I never meant it in the sense of comparing Dalton to Eli as in style of play but in how they both receive high levels of scrutiny and are constantly undervalued...thats why I use Flacco too, Flacco and Eli have much much much stronger arms than Andy. Just they are all over scrutinized and never given their dues for guiding their teams--it usually goes elsewhere (ex. Eli and the DL in NY, Joe and the Defense in Balty, Andy and the Defense in Cincy).

 

Agree that Little has some major hands issues--the only bright side to this is it was primarily at the start of the season and was cleaning up near the end, still bad though. Really happy I got two hands guys in Pitta and Wright as Little has not proven to be consistent. I am wondering how he will fare this year with Gordons issues and possibly more verticle routes with Norv--I dont see it as a good fit, I much prefer him in my O

[gabefergy]

Chris wasnt patient enough, and I think his tendency to hit the ball to left hurts him. If you look at his HRs from the regular season a majority of them are on the outside part of the plate. That doesnt translate as well to a HR derby.

[ravensdan]

Little just seems to lose concentration. Not sure why. He could fix it like Torrey smith or never figure it out like limas sweed.

[-Truth-]

Little just seems to lose concentration. Not sure why. He could fix it like Torrey smith or never figure it out like limas sweed.

 

To be honest, I'm not sure if Smith has passed his issues with drops. He was credited with 8 drops on 2011, and 7 in 2012. His drop rate actually increased as well, as he had the 15th worst drop rate last season compared to 23rd the year before.

[-Truth-]

Little just seems to lose concentration. Not sure why. He could fix it like Torrey smith or never figure it out like limas sweed.

 
To be honest, I'm not sure if Smith has passed his issues with drops. He was credited with 8 drops in 2011, and 7 in 2012. His drop rate actually increased as well, as he had the 15th worst drop rate last season compared to 23rd the year before. It's unrelated to your main point, however, as it certainly still stands. Just chiming in.

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

Fine by me as long as he waits for me to make my next pick before going after mine lol

same here, SAM please wait to do my team until I get my mr QB man

[ravensdan]

No analysis today?

[ravensdan]

No analysis today?

[SecretAgentMan]

No analysis today?

Because of requests, I'm going one a day from here on out. It will come later

[ravensdan]

Because of requests, I'm going one a day from here on out. It will come later

Ok daylight is burning lol.

[-Truth-]

Because of requests, I'm going one a day from here on out. It will come later

 

It's the right way to go, in my opinion.

[SecretAgentMan]

B'Town Blues

QB - Matt Schaub(Game manager. But you have him weapons)
RB - Adrian Peterson(MVP for a reason)
WR - Vincent Jackson(All pro WR if Shaub can lob the ball up to him lol)
WR - Mike Williams(Good #2)
WR - Lance Moore(Good #3)
TE - Brandon Myers(I don't like him personally, but you could've done worse)
LT - Sam Baker(Young LT who's only going to get better)
LG - Nate Livings(Dont know much about him)
C - Mike Pouncey(Top center)
RG - Chris Chester(Hate him, product of a good system, but where you got him was good)
RT - Willie Smith(Again, only going to get better)

DE -
NT - Vince Wilfork(All pro)
DE -
OLB - Dion Jordan(Freak athlete. Should be a nice player)
ILB - Demeco Ryans(Not a good 3-4 MLB)
ILB - Brad Jones(Very good 3-4 MLB)
OLB - Ahmad Brooks(Run stopper. Not much of a pass rusher)
CB - Brandon Browner(He's good. But I don't like him as a #1)
CB - Kyle Arrington(Overrated. Picked on too much so he gets INTs)
S - Jamarca Sanford(Average saftey)
S - Usama Young(Very good saftey)

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[ravensdan]

This is an interesting team. I am not a huge fan of Schaub, butt he has nice weapons around him. I don't know if there is enough run blocking here yet to maximize aps talents.

Defense I actually like what's here for the front 7. It should make all the difference in the world to see what type of ends he gets.

Personal note you suck for taking lance Moore before me. Lol.

[stm85]

B'Town Blues

QB - Matt Schaub(Game manager. But you have him weapons)
RB - Adrian Peterson(MVP for a reason)
WR - Vincent Jackson(All pro WR if Shaub can lob the ball up to him lol)
WR - Mike Williams(Good #2)
WR - Lance Moore(Good #3)
TE - Brandon Myers(I don't like him personally, but you could've done worse)
LT - Sam Baker(Young LT who's only going to get better)
LG - Nate Livings(Dont know much about him)
C - Mike Pouncey(Top center)
RG - Chris Chester(Hate him, product of a good system, but where you got him was good)
RT - Willie Smith(Again, only going to get better)

DE -
NT - Vince Wilfork(All pro)
DE -
OLB - Dion Jordan(Freak athlete. Should be a nice player)
ILB - Demeco Ryans(Not a good 3-4 MLB)
ILB - Brad Jones(Very good 3-4 MLB)
OLB - Ahmad Brooks(Run stopper. Not much of a pass rusher)
CB - Brandon Browner(He's good. But I don't like him as a #1)
CB - Kyle Arrington(Overrated. Picked on too much so he gets INTs)
S - Jamarca Sanford(Average saftey)
S - Usama Young(Very good saftey)

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I really like this team. I have some concerns with it (incomplete DL, not the greatest safety group) but I love the physical style of the D and I think the offense could be one of the best units in the draft. 

 

I disagree with a few of your comments. Brooks is an elite edge setter against the run, but he is no slouch rushing the passer. He is actually a very good complementary pass rusher. He's had 7 and 6.5 sacks the last two seasons. He can't be your main threat but he is someone that an OC needs to account for on pass plays. I also think that Browner can absolutely be a #1. Before Sherman's meteoric rise last year, Browner was considered the better player of the two. His absurd size for the position makes up for the lack of top end speed. Most teams' top WRs are bigger players and Browner is a great CB for that type of match up.

[ravensdan]

I really like this team. I have some concerns with it (incomplete DL, not the greatest safety group) but I love the physical style of the D and I think the offense could be one of the best units in the draft.

I disagree with a few of your comments. Brooks is an elite edge setter against the run, but he is no slouch rushing the passer. He is actually a very good complementary pass rusher. He's had 7 and 6.5 sacks the last two seasons. He can't be your main threat but he is someone that an OC needs to account for on pass plays. I also think that Browner can absolutely be a #1. Before Sherman's meteoric rise last year, Browner was considered the better player of the two. His absurd size for the position makes up for the lack of top end speed. Most teams' top WRs are bigger players and Browner is a great CB for that type of match up.

I also disagree with the assessment of Ryan's. he held up quite well in that position before. He is more proven than jones who I do like also.

[GrimCoconut]

B'Town Blues

QB - Matt Schaub(Game manager. But you have him weapons)
RB - Adrian Peterson(MVP for a reason)
WR - Vincent Jackson(All pro WR if Shaub can lob the ball up to him lol)
WR - Mike Williams(Good #2)
WR - Lance Moore(Good #3)
TE - Brandon Myers(I don't like him personally, but you could've done worse)
LT - Sam Baker(Young LT who's only going to get better)
LG - Nate Livings(Dont know much about him)
C - Mike Pouncey(Top center)
RG - Chris Chester(Hate him, product of a good system, but where you got him was good)
RT - Willie Smith(Again, only going to get better)

DE -
NT - Vince Wilfork(All pro)
DE -
OLB - Dion Jordan(Freak athlete. Should be a nice player)
ILB - Demeco Ryans(Not a good 3-4 MLB)
ILB - Brad Jones(Very good 3-4 MLB)
OLB - Ahmad Brooks(Run stopper. Not much of a pass rusher)
CB - Brandon Browner(He's good. But I don't like him as a #1)
CB - Kyle Arrington(Overrated. Picked on too much so he gets INTs)
S - Jamarca Sanford(Average saftey)
S - Usama Young(Very good saftey)

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First of all I don't see any team with a WR corps like this from memory. By that I mean from a chemistry standpoint. I think this is a great group for Schaub with Peterson running the ball and Williams, Jackson and Moore at WR.

I'm not a fan of that offensive line. Baker has been underwhelming from what I recall. Pouncey is a stud. Chester I have concerns whether he benefited from the blocking system. Smith isn't that good from what I recall and I also have concerns he looks good because of Brees' quick release. Livings is an average player from what I recall from watching him in the few Dallas games I caught. I'm not sure he's a terrific pick.

I'm concerned that Peterson might have to make magic happen.

Wilfork is a beast. I like him as a NT. He needs some DE but he can still get that. Ryans is a good player but he has struggled a bit in the 3-4. He looked better in the 4-3. I love Brooks and Jones. Both very good players. I think highly of Jordan even though he's unproven.

Browner I like a lot. He's a very good player. I'm not a fan of Arrington. Young is an underrated player but I wouldn't call him great. He's good. I actually like Sanford and I'd consider him better than average.

[GrimCoconut]

I also disagree with the assessment of Ryan's. he held up quite well in that position before. He is more proven than jones who I do like also.

Yeah that's true but he did look better in the 4-3.

[RavensAllTheWay]

This is an interesting team. I am not a huge fan of Schaub, butt he has nice weapons around him. I don't know if there is enough run blocking here yet to maximize aps talents.

Defense I actually like what's here for the front 7. It should make all the difference in the world to see what type of ends he gets.

Personal note you suck for taking lance Moore before me. Lol.

 

I was shocked that a 1,000 yard receiver was still on the board in the 16th round.  It's a good thing I took him because you, gabe and nflfan123 wanted him also, lol.

 

I'm thinking of switching to 4-3 on defense though.  I think DeMeco can cover and defend the run no matter what scheme he's in, but he has limited experience in a 3-4 and proved himself as a stud and a leader in a 4-3.  Not to mention, I think Jones would do well at WLB with Brooks at SLB.  I would have to get another DE and DT to pull off the switch though because I don't like Crawford going up against RTs in the run game. He's more of a pass rusher.

 

I'm thinking:

 

?/Wilfork/?/Jordan

 

Brooks/Ryans/Jones

 

Crawford would be a situational pass rusher in this formation.

 

 

B'Town Blues

QB - Matt Schaub(Game manager. But you have him weapons)
RB - Adrian Peterson(MVP for a reason)
WR - Vincent Jackson(All pro WR if Shaub can lob the ball up to him lol)
WR - Mike Williams(Good #2)
WR - Lance Moore(Good #3)
TE - Brandon Myers(I don't like him personally, but you could've done worse)
LT - Sam Baker(Young LT who's only going to get better)
LG - Nate Livings(Dont know much about him)
C - Mike Pouncey(Top center)
RG - Chris Chester(Hate him, product of a good system, but where you got him was good)
RT - Willie Smith(Again, only going to get better)

DE -
NT - Vince Wilfork(All pro)
DE -
OLB - Dion Jordan(Freak athlete. Should be a nice player)
ILB - Demeco Ryans(Not a good 3-4 MLB)
ILB - Brad Jones(Very good 3-4 MLB)
OLB - Ahmad Brooks(Run stopper. Not much of a pass rusher)
CB - Brandon Browner(He's good. But I don't like him as a #1)
CB - Kyle Arrington(Overrated. Picked on too much so he gets INTs)
S - Jamarca Sanford(Average saftey)
S - Usama Young(Very good saftey)

P -
K -
Ret -

 

I know it's only been one year, but Myers was 4th in catches and 6th in yards among TEs.  Last year was the first time he'd been the #1 TE on the roster in Oakland, and he flourished.

 

I'm somewhat torn about DeMeco in a 3-4 myself, but at the end of the day, he and Jones are each 3 down LBs regardless of scheme.

 

I'm with stm85.  I think Browners physicality makes up for his lack of catch up speed, and he can be a number 1.

[gabefergy]

I was shocked that a 1,000 yard receiver was still on the board in the 16th round.  It's a good thing I took him because you, gabe and nflfan123 wanted him also, lol.

 

I'm thinking of switching to 4-3 on defense though.  I think DeMeco can cover and defend the run no matter what scheme he's in, but he has limited experience in a 3-4 and proved himself as a stud and a leader in a 4-3.  Not to mention, I think Jones would do well at WLB with Brooks at SLB.  I would have to get another DE and DT to pull off the switch though because I don't like Crawford going up against RTs in the run game. He's more of a pass rusher.

 

I'm thinking:

 

?/Wilfork/?/Jordan

 

Brooks/Ryans/Jones

 

Crawford would be a situational pass rusher in this formation.

 

 

 

I know it's only been one year, but Myers was 4th in catches and 6th in yards among TEs.  Last year was the first time he'd been the #1 TE on the roster in Oakland, and he flourished.

 

I'm somewhat torn about DeMeco in a 3-4 myself, but at the end of the day, he and Jones are each 3 down LBs regardless of scheme.

 

I'm with stm85.  I think Browners physicality makes up for his lack of catch up speed, and he can be a number 1.

I'm still bummed that I missed out on Lance Moore. He has been a very underrated weapon in NO. Brooks and Jordan are a great pair of OLB in a 3-4, I'm not sure if I like them as much in a 4-3, but then again Ryans is better suited for a 4-3.

 

Myers is also a player I am not fond of. He did catch a lot of passes, but a lot of that came in garbage time, and he also had a pretty high number of drops and was an awful blocker. He would be better suited as a #2 TE IMO.

[ravensdan]

I'm still bummed that I missed out on Lance Moore. He has been a very underrated weapon in NO. Brooks and Jordan are a great pair of OLB in a 3-4, I'm not sure if I like them as much in a 4-3, but then again Ryans is better suited for a 4-3.

Myers is also a player I am not fond of. He did catch a lot of passes, but a lot of that came in garbage time, and he also had a pretty high number of drops and was an awful blocker. He would be better suited as a #2 TE IMO.

I agree with gabe on your defenders. I think benefits if having brooks and Jordan as stand up players outweigh any advantage gained for Ryans, who I think is more interchangeable for both. If you have the personel to run the 34 it is the better scheme to use because you can disguise what you are doing better with the outside guys standing up. You can always flex into a 43 look on known pass rush situations. The other key is having the right people on the inside to shut down any inside running with just 3 people. You have the start with wilfork who is a monster, although getting up there. I would definitely make the defensive interior a priority from here on.

As for Meyers, I am somewhat on the fence with him. When Oakland was playing better as a whole he seemed to have better games, he tailed off later in the yr as things became hopeless there. U believe he could go either way this year.

[GrimCoconut]

I agree with gabe on your defenders. I think benefits if having brooks and Jordan as stand up players outweigh any advantage gained for Ryans, who I think is more interchangeable for both. If you have the personel to run the 34 it is the better scheme to use because you can disguise what you are doing better with the outside guys standing up. You can always flex into a 43 look on known pass rush situations. The other key is having the right people on the inside to shut down any inside running with just 3 people. You have the start with wilfork who is a monster, although getting up there. I would definitely make the defensive interior a priority from here on.

As for Meyers, I am somewhat on the fence with him. When Oakland was playing better as a whole he seemed to have better games, he tailed off later in the yr as things became hopeless there. U believe he could go either way this year.

I'm not a big fan of playing Jordan at DE. Needless to say I agree with the sentiments of staying a base 3-4 defense.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

I was shocked that a 1,000 yard receiver was still on the board in the 16th round. It's a good thing I took him because you, gabe and nflfan123 wanted him also, lol.

I'm thinking of switching to 4-3 on defense though. I think DeMeco can cover and defend the run no matter what scheme he's in, but he has limited experience in a 3-4 and proved himself as a stud and a leader in a 4-3. Not to mention, I think Jones would do well at WLB with Brooks at SLB. I would have to get another DE and DT to pull off the switch though because I don't like Crawford going up against RTs in the run game. He's more of a pass rusher.

I'm thinking:

?/Wilfork/?/Jordan

Brooks/Ryans/Jones

Crawford would be a situational pass rusher in this formation.



I know it's only been one year, but Myers was 4th in catches and 6th in yards among TEs. Last year was the first time he'd been the #1 TE on the roster in Oakland, and he flourished.

I'm somewhat torn about DeMeco in a 3-4 myself, but at the end of the day, he and Jones are each 3 down LBs regardless of scheme.

I'm with stm85. I think Browners physicality makes up for his lack of catch up speed, and he can be a number 1.

I'd switch Jordan and Brooks if you were going to go that route since Jordan is infinitely better in coverage lol

[ravensdan]

I'd switch Jordan and Brooks if you were going to go that route since Jordan is infinitely better in coverage lol

Brooks at defensive end? Yikes.

[SecretAgentMan]

Brooks at defensive end? Yikes.

My eyes!