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Landry Jones :P???

 bah......its bad enough he's on the steelers

 

but I just need a QB who has to fill in one or two games a year...and there are plenty I like for that

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Tbh prophet. I don't hate the Steelers. I dislike them but have a huge respect for them being my main rival

Now the Pats an the Niners are a different story

I respect the ravens greatly too, I married one of their fans so I cant hate them

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bah......its bad enough he's on the steelers

but I just need a QB who has to fill in one or two games a year...and there are plenty I like for that

Yeah. I'm taking a backup OG. Freeman is pretty durable for the most part
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I respect the ravens greatly too, I married one of their fans so I cant hate them

 

That's like Romeo and Juliet, but in real life.

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The team above is one of the few teams I am afraid of but still want to play.

This team will be fun to watch, especially with the best QB in the NFL by far.

Lets face facts, Rodgers took his team to the playoffs basically all by himself. He makes his WRs look better then they really are. He had little oline help, and his Defense sucked.

Ravensdan had given him a competent team.

I see why he's #1 lol

Thanks for the kind words appreciate the analysis. Just to comment on a few of your points...

Babineaux while no spring chicken is still 31 and has several strong yrs remaining.

Herzlich has been solid if not spectacular in a back up role for the giants. He beat cancer and the giants let others go due to the confidence they have in him to start at MLB for them.

Leonard Johnson is an up and coming young player who took over a starting role for an underperforming bucs secondary last year and performed quite well. Here us an article about him.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/06/12/secret-superstar-leonard-johnson/

Jamar Taylor is one of my favorite rookie corners from this draft and he looks to be inline for a starting role.

Overall I would say the defense is much better than average most notably the pass rush is good from the inside and the edges. The safeties should be solid playmakers. The corners I would say are the weakest position because they are somewhat unproven. But that unit is not complete yet.
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Tbh I was trying to be nice. I don't like it either. But knowing him he will come out with a reason why he will beat us all ;)

Team looks fine to me. I compare it like the Rams, but with an OL. The Rams have a young team as well with strong pass rushers and a serviceable defense. I believe an OL like mine will help the offense better than what you all expect. Last time I checked, Alex Smith had a QB rating of 104.1, which is a helluva lot better than Mark Sanchez and his 66.9 rating. Weapons-wise, I may not be stacked, but Torrey Smith is going to break that 1000 yard barrier because he is too talented. Also, Marcell Reece will produce bigger numbers if used right like Aaron Hernandez. Dwayne Allen is very underrated and is one of the few complete TEs in the game. Ben Tate might be coming off a down year, but the year before, he produced 942 yards with 5.4 YPC. It's his contract year and he will be motivated put up some yards if he wants to get paid since the Texans are going to make the two RBs share the carries since Arian Foster has been overused over the past three years. Also, my primary blocking scheme is zone blocking, which should help Tate gain big yards. Even Reece is an experienced zone runner.

As for defense, rookies highlight the team. All of these rookies have shown flashes at camp like Sheldon Richardson and Datone Jones. Those two aren't finished products, but will have an impact early and often for their respective teams this year since they were drafted not to sit on the bench, but to play. Also, the minicamp reports show they will earn a starting role sooner than later. The only DJ, I'm worried about is Hayden because he's still recovering from the post-surgery. The Raiders might have be gambling, but they know who Hayden is and will throw him in the fire like me because I know he has all the tools (height/speed/hands/IQ) to be a Day 1 starter. Scheme wise, I decided that having a multiple D will help this unit. Rex Ryan's defensive personnel might be all over the place, but he knows how to use both 4-3 and 3-4 to maximize the talent.
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Team looks fine to me. I compare it like the Rams, but with an OL. The Rams have a young team as well with strong pass rushers and a serviceable defense. I believe an OL like mine will help the offense better than what you all expect. Last time I checked, Alex Smith had a QB rating of 104.1, which is a helluva lot better than Mark Sanchez and his 66.9 rating. Weapons-wise, I may not be stacked, but Torrey Smith is going to break that 1000 yard barrier because he is too talented. Also, Marcell Reece will produce bigger numbers if used right like Aaron Hernandez. Dwayne Allen is very underrated and is one of the few complete TEs in the game. Ben Tate might be coming off a down year, but the year before, he produced 942 yards with 5.4 YPC. It's his contract year and he will be motivated put up some yards if he wants to get paid since the Texans are going to make the two RBs share the carries since Arian Foster has been overused over the past three years. Also, my primary blocking scheme is zone blocking, which should help Tate gain big yards. Even Reece is an experienced zone runner.

As for defense, rookies highlight the team. All of these rookies have shown flashes at camp like Sheldon Richardson and Datone Jones. Those two aren't finished products, but will have an impact early and often for their respective teams this year since they were drafted not to sit on the bench, but to play. Also, the minicamp reports show they will earn a starting role sooner than later. The only DJ, I'm worried about is Hayden because he's still recovering from the post-surgery. The Raiders might have be gambling, but they know who Hayden is and will throw him in the fire like me because I know he has all the tools (height/speed/hands/IQ) to be a Day 1 starter. Scheme wise, I decided that having a multiple D will help this unit. Rex Ryan's defensive personnel might be all over the place, but he knows how to use both 4-3 and 3-4 to maximize the talent.

Like these Rams?

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Like these Rams?

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No, these Rams are more like it. I think my team could be a top 5 sacking team.

 

Kevin+Kolb+Arizona+Cardinals+v+St+Louis+

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it just might take his bottom five lol

Me and Horus will take him on right Horus.......

I smile at the opportunity to send Ngata up the middle to bury mr Rogers in the turf - HA! Take that I say! lol..

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I smile at the opportunity to send Ngata up the middle to bury mr Rogers in the turf - HA! Take that I say! lol..


Haha. You can try bt rodgerrs is behind the best line he's ever had.
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Haha. You can try bt rodgerrs is behind the best line he's ever had.

yep, that's true - thus my assumption I can only try to break it through the middle where you play Gino, who'll be very busy with Paea; and if you try to double team Ngata then I got LaMarr Houston on the other side with Miller and 'Spoon pressing hard on the outside; might also send Burnett on a safety blitz too

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yep, that's true - thus my assumption I can only try to break it through the middle where you play Gino, who'll be very busy with Paea; and if you try to double team Ngata then I got LaMarr Houston on the other side with Miller and 'Spoon pressing hard on the outside; might also send Burnett on a safety blitz too

id buy tickets to that game.......it would be interesting

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yep, that's true - thus my assumption I can only try to break it through the middle where you play Gino, who'll be very busy with Paea; and if you try to double team Ngata then I got LaMarr Houston on the other side with Miller and 'Spoon pressing hard on the outside; might also send Burnett on a safety blitz too


This will be a fun game. With sending everyone in for pressure your leaving vereen open to catch passes in space. Then you srnd the safety blitz leaving these deadly wideouts one on one.
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This will be a fun game. With sending everyone in for pressure your leaving vereen open to catch passes in space. Then you srnd the safety blitz leaving these deadly wideouts one on one.

we should start charging for money, you heard Steelers - people would pay to watch our teams play lol

I got two press-man corners for your wideouts, good rangy SS to shadow Vereen plus Cushing to stuff any run for good, then drop Bowman in cover for extra help

it will be a game of seconds, if your line holds up and my CBs can't jam your WRs at the line then I'm roasted, but if a little breach is found and one of my men gets mr Rogers in their visor then he's dead meat lol

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"Stretch Zone" Offence:
QB: Andy Dalton(HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Will always make fun of Dalton for whatever reason lol. Don't like him)
RB: Bernard Pierce(He'd be a starter on most teams)
WR: Kendall Wright(Should be good)
WR: Greg Little(Stonehands)
TE: Dennis Pitta(Makes up for Stonehands)
LT: Trent Williams(Overrated IMHO, but a good tackle)
LG: Donald Stephenson(solid guard)
C: Evan Dietrich-Smith(He's a a very good center)
RG: Amini Silatolu(Young and up and coming guard)
RT: Cordy Glenn(Should be good at RT)
FB/TE/WR:

Dubs Offensive coach speak: "The goal of this offence is to attack the edges of the defence through a stretch zone running scheme. Consistent chunk yardage should open up the middle of the field for crossing/seam patterns and a strong play-action based throw game."
-Think Houston, Seattle, Washington

"43 Over/Under"or "34 Hybrid" Defence:
DE: Quinton Coples(Should be a very good option here)
NT: Jurrell Casey(One of the best in the game. So I hate you for it :P)
DT/DE: Kendall Reyes(don't know much about him)
JACK: Paul Kruger(Should be good. Considering the talent left at that position)
WILL: Zach Brown(Athletic freak. Should he a good MLB)
MIKE: London Fletcher(The veteran. Worried about longevity throughout a year tho)
SAM:(Hey. That's me :P)
CB: Richard Sherman(Shutdown CB)
CB: Xavier Rhodes(Potential shutdown CB)
NB:
S: Antoine Bethea(Good FS in coverage)
S: Eric Reid(I think he is better as a SS)

Dubs Defensive coach speak: "34 personnel in a 43 scheme, or is it 43 personnel in 34 scheme, either way front seven is defined by being versatile. One gap scheme that allows front seven to work upfield. Physical press coverage on the outside with interchangeable safeties should make this an aggressive defence that thrives on big plays."
-Think New England, Denver, Seattle


Special Teams:
K:
P:

Dubs Team coach speak: "Quick feet in the trenches makes big plays"
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If people complain they get what they want

I might as well take advantage of this...My complaint is why do you hate Dalton so much?

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I might as well take advantage of this...My complaint is why do you hate Dalton so much?

Why do you like Dalton so much? He has always struggled against better competition and has legitimate arm strength limitations. He plays with the one of the best WR in the NFL and has one of the best OL as well to make him look good.

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Why do you like Dalton so much? He has always struggled against better competition and has legitimate arm strength limitations. He plays with the one of the best WR in the NFL and has one of the best OL as well to make him look good.

Its not that I think he is special or anything near I just think he is a very good young QB who gets unfairly criticized. i dont think he will ever be in that elite or near elite range but I think he can win a Superbowl and guide a team similar to Eli Manning...I have a couple reasons why I like him. 1) he has gone to the playoffs in his first two years as a pro, yes he has not won any games yet but he has made the Bengals finally a consistent team. 2) His run game has be skeptical (benson did have a decent year once) but for a young QB he has been asked to shoulder alot and I have not seen a QB who is shying away from it or not able to be that guy they are asking for. 3) His numbers are pretty good, better than Flaccos..if your a number person. 4) I like his red hair. 5) His facial gestures at times make me laugh. 6) I think he is on the verge of and could have a big run in the playoffs at any point as long as the Bengals owner does not let everyone walk

 

I do have concerns against arm strength but he has proven he can play in the league and he will never be a Joe Flacco or Jay Cutler type. That is why I built my team around YAC guys in Wright and Little. I also agree he has yet to step up in 'big' games but there are not many young QBs who are not special/elite that do in their first two years. 

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Its not that I think he is special or anything near I just think he is a very good young QB who gets unfairly criticized. i dont think he will ever be in that elite or near elite range but I think he can win a Superbowl and guide a team similar to Eli Manning...I have a couple reasons why I like him. 1) he has gone to the playoffs in his first two years as a pro, yes he has not won any games yet but he has made the Bengals finally a consistent team. 2) His run game has be skeptical (benson did have a decent year once) but for a young QB he has been asked to shoulder alot and I have not seen a QB who is shying away from it or not able to be that guy they are asking for. 3) His numbers are pretty good, better than Flaccos..if your a number person. 4) I like his red hair. 5) His facial gestures at times make me laugh. 6) I think he is on the verge of and could have a big run in the playoffs at any point as long as the Bengals owner does not let everyone walk

 

I do have concerns against arm strength but he has proven he can play in the league and he will never be a Joe Flacco or Jay Cutler type. That is why I built my team around YAC guys in Wright and Little. I also agree he has yet to step up in 'big' games but there are not many young QBs who are not special/elite that do in their first two years. 

 

That's what I'm talking about. *Hi-Five* 

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That's what I'm talking about. *Hi-Five* 

You must be jealous I basically have your poster child

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Its not that I think he is special or anything near I just think he is a very good young QB who gets unfairly criticized. i dont think he will ever be in that elite or near elite range but I think he can win a Superbowl and guide a team similar to Eli Manning...I have a couple reasons why I like him. 1) he has gone to the playoffs in his first two years as a pro, yes he has not won any games yet but he has made the Bengals finally a consistent team. 2) His run game has be skeptical (benson did have a decent year once) but for a young QB he has been asked to shoulder alot and I have not seen a QB who is shying away from it or not able to be that guy they are asking for. 3) His numbers are pretty good, better than Flaccos..if your a number person. 4) I like his red hair. 5) His facial gestures at times make me laugh. 6) I think he is on the verge of and could have a big run in the playoffs at any point as long as the Bengals owner does not let everyone walk

 

I do have concerns against arm strength but he has proven he can play in the league and he will never be a Joe Flacco or Jay Cutler type. That is why I built my team around YAC guys in Wright and Little. I also agree he has yet to step up in 'big' games but there are not many young QBs who are not special/elite that do in their first two years. 

Those are all fair arguments, but I think excellent defensive play has been just as big if not a bigger reason for the team's success as Dalton. I would equate him to an Alex Smith. He can manage the game well and occassionally make plays, but when he has to make the play, he doesnt quite have what it takes, at least at this point in his career. Arm strength is also a big deal in the NFL despite what some people will try to argue. All of the "elite" QBs in the league have an elite or at least above average arm. I wouldnt put Dalton in the upper half or arms in the NFL.

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Those are all fair arguments, but I think excellent defensive play has been just as big if not a bigger reason for the team's success as Dalton. I would equate him to an Alex Smith. He can manage the game well and occassionally make plays, but when he has to make the play, he doesnt quite have what it takes, at least at this point in his career. Arm strength is also a big deal in the NFL despite what some people will try to argue. All of the "elite" QBs in the league have an elite or at least above average arm. I wouldnt put Dalton in the upper half or arms in the NFL.

I think he is well above and has proven more than Alex Smith..I agree completely that he is probably middle of the pack for starting QBs in arm strength but I dont think he has terrible arm strength. As stated dont think he is an elite QB or ever will be but he is more than capable of winning a SB..Also how many QBs in their second year make the play? I cannot think of a ton outside of the soon to be elites (Andrew Luck & Russell Wilson, Kaepernick maybe)..

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I think he is well above and has proven more than Alex Smith..I agree completely that he is probably middle of the pack for starting QBs in arm strength but I dont think he has terrible arm strength. As stated dont think he is an elite QB or ever will be but he is more than capable of winning a SB..Also how many QBs in their second year make the play? I cannot think of a ton outside of the soon to be elites (Andrew Luck & Russell Wilson, Kaepernick maybe)..

I dont think he has shown anything that Alex Smith can't do. I just don't see Dalton as a guy who is going to get much better. I'll go back to arm strength as my argument here. He can get smarter and more efficient and improve his pocket awareness, but will that make him a QB that is capable of winning it all? I dont know. He hasnt shown me enough yet, and he has all the weapons around him to do it. I dont know what makes him more than capable of winning a SB, considering elite or close to elite QB play is needed to not only get to the SB but win it. Average QBs can win in the regular season and get to the playoffs, but when crunchtime comes, they fade over and over again. When Dalton starts beating good teams I will start believing in him.

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