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[PuRock]

If you're talking on a whole I agree it's probably better for most players in the 4-3.

 

 

I think the 43 makes a bit more sense with this personel.
Lde: Mario Williams
Dt: corey liuget
Nt: ?
Rde: everson griffin

Wilb: ?
MLB: Stephen tulloch
Slb: vontaze burfict

 

Thanks guys.  I kept trying to fit a square peg into a round hole when researching my missing pieces.  I kept wanted to leave it the way 5superbolaeofijs had it set up, but it just didn't feel right.  Just wanted to see if others thought it would be better to be in a 4-3 with the pieces I have.  

[SteelersProphet]

That's great Troy is in great condition.  That never has been the real issue though.  The problem stems from his style of play and at age 32 it doesn't get easier.  

 actually the last two years troy has been healing in the off season.....so he entered the year not 100% and it showed and he was more susceptible to more injuries.....this year he was healthy at the end of the year due to being out the majority of it....so in a sense he got a long rest....he says he feels the best he has felt since he won DPOY...

[PuRock]

Before I had told him that I thought his defense was much better suited for a 4-3, so I would completely agree with you interpretation of your roster. IMHO Mario Williams is miscast as a OLB, his size and ability make him an ideal 4-3 DE.

 

Agreed w/ Mario Williams.  Plus he had Griffen listed as a DE in a 3-4.  I would think he'd probably be more of a OLB (rush) in that scheme, but then I already had Williams.  That would have left me needing a DT & NT instead of a DT and OLB.  

[SecretAgentMan]

Agreed w/ Mario Williams. Plus he had Griffen listed as a DE in a 3-4. I would think he'd probably be more of a OLB in that scheme. That would have left me needing a DT & NT instead of a DT and OLB.

Have fun lol.
Another red headed step child coming ;)???

[PuRock]

Have fun lol.
Another red headed step child coming ;)???

 

Its a lot easier finding the red-heads on the offensive side of the ball.  Though Peko would've worked well.  

[GrimCoconut]

Its a lot easier finding the red-heads on the offensive side of the ball. Though Peko would've worked well.

Just make them dye their hair.

[PuRock]

Just make them dye their hair.

 

Good point.  Sort of like the Yankees w/ their no beards policy. Though my team would use force if need be.    

 

Let's see what the NFLPA would do about that.  

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

no second team for the day?

[SecretAgentMan]

no second team for the day?

I was out all day. I'll do three tomorrow.

[flaccopoe]

Damn, 1000 views in 2 days!

[Mt. Crushmore]

What has been driving me bonkers about 5superlakbjlabj's team that I adopted is the way he was setting up his defense.  He has it displayed like a 3-4, yet most of the guys he drafted are a better fit in 4-3.  Tulluch is one of the best, experienced 4-3 MLBs.

 

What do you guys think, with the pieces below should I go his original 3-4 or switch things around to a 4-3?  Makes a bit of difference with what I should do at my missing DT/NT/OLB.

 

LOLB-Mario Williams
LDE-Everson Griffen
DT-
RDE-Corey Liuget
ROLB-
MLB-Stephen Tulloch
MLB-Vontaze Burfict

 

 

I think the 43 makes a bit more sense with this personel.
Lde: Mario Williams
Dt: corey liuget
Nt: ?
Rde: everson griffin

Wilb: ?
MLB: Stephen tulloch
Slb: vontaze burfict

 

 

Thanks guys.  I kept trying to fit a square peg into a round hole when researching my missing pieces.  I kept wanted to leave it the way 5superbolaeofijs had it set up, but it just didn't feel right.  Just wanted to see if others thought it would be better to be in a 4-3 with the pieces I have.  

 

The only thing I would change from ravensdan's lineup for you is that Burfict plays WILL not SAM.

[GrimCoconut]

The only thing I would change from ravensdan's lineup for you is that Burfict plays WILL not SAM.

Yep. Burfict is a WILL not a SAM.

[PuRock]

The only thing I would change from ravensdan's lineup for you is that Burfict plays WILL not SAM.

 

Good catch.  Much appreciated.  

[Mt. Crushmore]

Good catch.  Much appreciated.  

 

No problem.

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

I was out all day. I'll do three tomorrow.

hmm three teams you say? saw no one! must be an optical illusion for which i blame the heat lol...

[SecretAgentMan]

The Jack Samurais

Offense

QB: Russell Wilson(Sophmore slump possible, but a very good franchise QB)
RB: Stevan Ridley(Overrated as a RB IMHO, but a good one IMHO)
LT: Donald Penn(Great pick from where you got him)
LG: Evan Mathis(best LG in the game)
C: Max Unger(One of the best Centers in the game)
RG: Larry Warford(Rookie with a ton of upside)
RT: Lamar Holmes(Weakness)
WR: Demaryius Thomas(Physical stud. Great WR)
WR: Kenny Britt(Stud. But injury prone)
TE: Brandon Pettigrew(Not a big fan)

Chemistry. The Sophmore has plenty of oline help and offensive help. The only thing I complain about is the lack of a slot dude. Slot WRs are becoming a viable weapon.

TE is a weakness and as is RT. but this is a very good offense


Defense

RDE: Greg Hardy(Great option)
NT: Brodrick Bunkley(run stuffer)
DT: Ray McDonald(Dont like him as a DT. Would've put him as an end instead)
LDE: Cameron Jordan(High ceiling)
WLB: Arthur Brown(Rookie with a ton of upside)
MLB: Karlos Dansby(Had a career year in a 4-3. I really like this pick)
CB: Vontae Davis(Shutdown guy)
CB: Champ Bailey (Veteran. Older and wont be able to shutdown the deep guy)
FS: Kendrick Lewis(Average)
SS: LaRon Landry(Injury prone. I don't have an opinion)

[-Truth-]

If Ray McDonald is switching to the 4-3, I'd personally see him as a DT before a DE.

[ravensdan]

This is an above average squad. Wilson has a nice deep ball he is underrated there so a nice big fast target like Thomas will be nice for him. The tackles aren't upper echelon but they are not bad players. The interior is rock solid with unheralded Mathis and watford. I agree a slot wr would benefit this team alot. Ridley is a good runner but not a dynamic game changer there.

I agree McDonald would play dt for this team. He should be able to generate some pressure with hardy and Jordan although the latter has yet to prove he can be dominant. I like dansby in the middle and brown should be nice beside him. I would not call Davis a shut down corner. He is good but has a long way to go to be put in that category.

Most questionable pick is britt with both off field issues and injury issues.

[Ed_Reed20]

The Jack Samurais

Offense

QB: Russell Wilson(Sophmore slump possible, but a very good franchise QB)
RB: Stevan Ridley(Overrated as a RB IMHO, but a good one IMHO)
LT: Donald Penn(Great pick from where you got him)
LG: Evan Mathis(best LG in the game)
C: Max Unger(One of the best Centers in the game)
RG: Larry Warford(Rookie with a ton of upside)
RT: Lamar Holmes(Weakness)
WR: Demaryius Thomas(Physical stud. Great WR)
WR: Kenny Britt(Stud. But injury prone)
TE: Brandon Pettigrew(Not a big fan)

Chemistry. The Sophmore has plenty of oline help and offensive help. The only thing I complain about is the lack of a slot dude. Slot WRs are becoming a viable weapon.

TE is a weakness and as is RT. but this is a very good offense

Defense

RDE: Greg Hardy(Great option)
NT: Brodrick Bunkley(run stuffer)
DT: Ray McDonald(Dont like him as a DT. Would've put him as an end instead)
LDE: Cameron Jordan(High ceiling)
WLB: Arthur Brown(Rookie with a ton of upside)
MLB: Karlos Dansby(Had a career year in a 4-3. I really like this pick)
CB: Vontae Davis(Shutdown guy)
CB: Champ Bailey (Veteran. Older and wont be able to shutdown the deep guy)
FS: Kendrick Lewis(Average)
SS: LaRon Landry(Injury prone. I don't have an opinion)

 

A lot would have to go wrong for Wilson to legitimately slump. 

 

How in the world is Ridley overrated? He's a beast in the red-zone, as evidenced by the Pats trusting him with almost 60 carries last year, was 7th in the NFL in rush yards after contact and 11th in forcing missed tackles. He contributes nothing in the passing game at this point but there are numerous capable receiving/pass protection RBs. 

 

I don't know what to tell you regarding McDonald playing DT. That's clearly his best fit in the 4-3. 

 

Just out of curiosity, will you be updating these posts after the draft is finished?

[SecretAgentMan]

A lot would have to go wrong for Wilson to legitimately slump.

How in the world is Ridley overrated? He's a beast in the red-zone, as evidenced by the Pats trusting him with almost 60 carries last year, was 7th in the NFL in rush yards after contact and 11th in forcing missed tackles. He contributes nothing in the passing game at this point but there are numerous capable receiving/pass protection RBs.

I don't know what to tell you regarding McDonald playing DT. That's clearly his best fit in the 4-3.

Just out of curiosity, will you be updating these posts after the draft is finished?

Yes to the last part

[gabefergy]

A lot would have to go wrong for Wilson to legitimately slump.

How in the world is Ridley overrated? He's a beast in the red-zone, as evidenced by the Pats trusting him with almost 60 carries last year, was 7th in the NFL in rush yards after contact and 11th in forcing missed tackles. He contributes nothing in the passing game at this point but there are numerous capable receiving/pass protection RBs.

I don't know what to tell you regarding McDonald playing DT. That's clearly his best fit in the 4-3.

Just out of curiosity, will you be updating these posts after the draft is finished?

Just to play devils Advocate regarding Ridley. He played in a very favorable offense behind an elite OL. It could be argued he was a product of the system. He did fare well in total yards after contact, but if you look at yards after contact/ attempt he falls down to 21st. I'm not saying he is overrated, but I probably would not have taken him that early in the draft especially considering his lack of 3 down ability.

[GrimCoconut]

Yes to the last part

So how about those other two Hit Lists? lol. 

[SecretAgentMan]

So how about those other two Hit Lists? lol.

Don't rush me lol
Decatur Menaces


QB: Andrew Luck(LOVE IT)
RB: Chris Ivory(Not the biggest fan of this pick, but Ivory is a potential good option)
WR: Greg Jennings(Great if healthy. Big if)
WR: Miles Austin(See above)
WR: Emmanuel Sanders(See above... Again)
TE: Jacob Tamme(Very good choice here)
LT: King Dunlap(Dunlap is slightly below average, but the rest of your line looks strong)
LG: Zane Beadles(Up and coming stud)
C:
RG: Clint Boling(Solid player)
RT: Anthony Davis(One of the best in the game)

Chem: If the three WRs stay healthy, then this offense is a top 5 offense easy. Luck is finally given a solid Oline, and Ivory might be good too.



Defense:
DE: Carlos Dunlap(Stud)
DT: Ndamukong Suh(Stud)
DT: Ahtyba Rubin(Stud)
DE: William Hayes(Dont know much about him)

WLB: Kevin Burnett(Good player)
ILB: Mason Foster(Really good, up and coming player)

CB: Johnathan Joseph(Shutdown CB)
CB: Corey Graham(Great slot CB)
CB: Dre Kirkpatrick(High ceiling, but high bust potential)
FS: Earl Thomas(Best FS in the game)
SS: Donte Whitner(Hard hitter, but not the best in coverage)


Chem: this defense is going to be a top ranked unit as well. The line is going to get it off in a snap. Teams are going to have to double Suh, leaving other studs like Rubin, and Dunlap single covered.

Throwing it against them will be difficult too, especially with that secondary

[-Truth-]

Difficult to consider Earl Thomas the best Safety in the game. It's debatable between several players. I personally have Jairus Byrd up there, but that's just me.

[Dubs]

I like ER20s team...it has enough big play potential on the outside at WR and with agood young QB who is great deep to push the defense back and give Ridley some easy yards...It seems like the offensive run scheme would be power based--this is where I question Ridley and if he can and will be able to punish defenses. May put alot of pressure on Russell Wilson early

 

Defensively I do not mind that Ray McDonald may not be the best fit for a 43...it is rare that teams run their base package that may in todays NFL and should be versatile enough to change looks up front without having two constantly sub players on the DL which could allow for some very interesting disguised looks

 

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Decatur Menaces

I wonder the fit of the OL..Dunlap is a power slow footer, as is Davis, Boling and Beadles are more zone/movement linemen slightly concerned how they will work together

 

Defensively that DL and the secondary together could be one of the best..if Kirkpatrick is able to turn the corner that could be deadly--luckily Graham is proven inside and out and the worries of his development arent huge

[gabefergy]

Difficult to consider Earl Thomas the best Safety in the game. It's debatable between several players. I personally have Jairus Byrd up there, but that's just me.

Me too :)

[-Truth-]

Me too :)

 

lol You would!

[hawkprey]

I think you were a little generous with a few players. Jonathan Joseph is good, but not a shutdown CB, and he struggled some last year. Zane Beadles has yet to prove anything, so I don't know how you can call him a stud. Rubin is also definitely not a stud. Good, but not a stud. Even his running mate Phil Taylor is better than him.

[SecretAgentMan]

Parangaricutirimícuaro Platypuses




Offense:

QB: E.J. Manuel(Will eventually be a good QB. Won't be a playoff QB THIS YEAR. I see him developing as our own Flacco did)
RB: Lamar Miller(I like him. Great upside here)
WR: Michael Crabtree(Won't play much this year. But will be good with his return)
WR: Michael Floyd(Hate you for this pick)
WR:
TE: Coby Fleener(Same as above)
TE: Rob Housler(Good blocker, lots of upside)
LT: Branden Albert(Good option. Just be sure to get a viable backup in round 26)
LG: Travis Frederick(Lots of upside. At least you didn't take him round one like Jones did)
C: Brian De La Puente(Really hate you for this pick)
RG: Uche Nwaneri(Great run blocker. Idk much about his pass blocking)
RT: Marcus Gilbert(Isn't he always injured)

In 3-4 years this offense will be really good. Team for the future, not now
Defense:

DE: Michael Bennett(Hate you for this pick)
DT: Geno Atkins(All pro. Hate you for this pick)
DT:
DE: Junior Galette(Solid player here)
WILL: Bruce Carter(Very good will set for a breakout season)
MIKE: Kevin Minter(I love Mitner as a prospect. Tons of upside here)
SAM: Justin Durant(I've heard from some Lions fans themselves that he's overrated, but he's a good run defender if I'm correct)
CB: Joe Haden(Shutdown CB)
CB:
FS: Reshad Jones(How do you get an elite saftey and CB?)
SS: Glover Quin(Hate you even more)

This defense might be good enough to get your team to the playoffs. It won't go very far, but the D looks like it will be deadly in the near future


Moral of Story: I hate you Crush.... :P

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[SecretAgentMan]

Yep. Burfict is a WILL not a SAM.

Damn right he's not

Why would I recruit him to he one of me? With that attitude he'd never last as a Secret Agent Man.

Smh lol