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[SecretAgentMan]

Someone didn't tell him that Wii golf isn't real golf.

Bonus points for Emma Stone

[codizzle]

Someone didn't tell him that Wii golf isn't real golf.

+35 million

[ravensdan]

Hmmmm, no team today?

[SecretAgentMan]

Offense
QB: Peyton Manning(Great player, hall of famer. No explanation ever)
RB: Darren McFadden(DRAFT A BACKUP)
WR: Percy Harvin(Same as above)
WR: Keenan Allen(TBD)
TE: Antonio Gates(Older, but still a very good TE)
TE: Delanie Walker(Great blocker, stone hands)
LT: Lane Johnson(TBD)
LG: Ben Grubbs(Pro bowl caliber guard)
C: A.Q. Shipley(Smart player. Mauler)
RG: Josh Sitton(Down year last year, but could turn it around)
RT: Derek Sherrod(Unproven)

Defense
LE: Brandon Graham(Good player)
DT:
DT: Jarvis Jenkins(excellent run defender)
RE: Brooks Reed(Great pass rusher)
LOLB: Thomas Davis(Solid player)
MLB: Dan Connor(Good player)
ROLB: Lance Briggs(excellent in coverage)
CB: Antonio Cromartie(Good, but overrated)
CB: Prince Amukamara(see above)
CB: Brandon Boykin(Great slot CB)
FS: Eric Weddle(One of the best in the biz. Nice pick)
SS: Shamarko Thomas(TBD)

Special Teams
K:
P:

[SecretAgentMan]

I'm not feeling so great. Lemme be plz. Ill post a better review in the morning

[T3hRaven]

Someone didn't tell him that Wii golf isn't real golf.

 

 

Bazinga!

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I'd disagree with Josh Sitton having a down year. He was still a top tier OG. That's an outstanding OG due, easily among the best. However, while Brooks Reed has been a very good run defender, he's also been largely ineffective as a pass rusher over his first two seasons.

[GrimCoconut]

I'd disagree with Josh Sitton having a down year. He was still a top tier OG. That's an outstanding OG due, easily among the best. However, while Brooks Reed has been a very good run defender, he's also been largely ineffective as a pass rusher over his first two seasons.

Yeah. Even when he has a down year, Sitton's still a top-10 guard, IMO. 

[ravensdan]

Yeah. Even when he has a down year, Sitton's still a top-10 guard, IMO.

In his "down yr" pff ranks him as the #7 overall guard, 3rd in pass blocking. The packers are wisely moving him over to the left side along with bulaga this year. It should do wonders to keep Rodgers and in this case manning protected.

I'm not sure if the rest of the line is quite good enough. Johnson while good may not be ready to dominate on the left side yet. Not sure Shipley is good enough to be the main starter. Sherrod has really done nothing to this point, his third year and is still not practicing yet this year due to a leg injury. Your guards are strong with Grubbs however I would switch he and sitton. As for your weapons, you have enough receivers to play small ball but you need someone to challenge the defense deep to counterbalance this attack. DMc if he could ever complete a season could be neck and neck with Peterson but he has yet to do so.

The defense seems mostly geared to stop the run. Graham being the only real pass rushing threat teams will be able to game plan away from him. The secondary seems to be a nice group led by weddle. I am a big fan of both prince and shamarko as well.
Overall this team I would say would Finnish around 8-8 or 9-7. Unfortunately with less than ideal protection and several offensive players with injury histories the offense will most likely need to be rebuilt relatively soon. Could possibly challenge for a wild card in the meantime.

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In his "down yr" pff ranks him as the #7 overall guard, 3rd in pass blocking. The packers are wisely moving him over to the left side along with bulaga this year. It should do wonders to keep Rodgers and in this case manning protected.

 

Sitton has been an elite Guard for quite some time. In a wild season for their OL, the fact that he was still able to maintain a high level of play was even more encouraging. Should Bulaga return to form, he could certainly shore up the left side. However, I'm not sure how much better pass protection they'll get from moving Sitton to the left, given that his mate T.J. Lang graded out among the Top 5 in this facet among all LGs in each of his last two seasons.

[SecretAgentMan]

Sitton has been an elite Guard for quite some time. In a wild season for their OL, the fact that he was still able to maintain a high level of play was even more encouraging. Should Bulaga return to form, he could certainly shore up the left side. However, I'm not sure how much better pass protection they'll get from moving Sitton to the left, given that his mate T.J. Lang graded out among the Top 5 in this facet among all LGs in each of his last two seasons.

 
Myb. I was confusing Sitton for the other GB guard...

He's an all pro caliber guard isn't he?

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Myb. I was confusing Sitton for the other GB guard...

He's an all pro caliber guard isn't he?

 

Perhaps you are, as Lang's 2012 season wasn't quite as good as his 2011 campaign, though part of it had to do with rotating between LG and RT after the Bulaga injury. Sitton? Yes, absolutely.

[ravensdan]

No team today???

[SecretAgentMan]

No team today???

I need a day off man. Weird one. Gas leak and all that

I'll do two tomorrow

[ravensdan]

I need a day off man. Weird one. Gas leak and all that

I'll do two tomorrow

Oh wow. Hope everything is ok

[SecretAgentMan]

QB: Matt Ryan(will choke in playoffs)
RB: Doug Martin( Will be all pro in 2-3 years)
WR: Randall Cobb(Good slot WR. Not sure if he can be #1)
WR: Brian Hartline(Very good #2)
TE: Jason Witten(Future HOF TE)
TE: Jordan Cameron(Very solid TE)
LT: Jermon Bushrod(Bushrod actually really sucks in Pass protection, but you got good value where you got him)
LG: David DeCastro(TBD)
RG: Kevin Zeitler(Very good guard. Should be good going forward)
RT: Max Starks(I think you should draft a backup)
DT: Star Lotulelei(TBD)
DT: Jason Jones(Very solid, not spectacular option)
DE: Cameron Wake(Maybe the best 4-3 DE in the game)
DE: Brian Robison(Good player, but IDK too much about him)
WLB: Erin Henderson(Solid option, but not the best in coverage)
MLB: D'Qwell Jackson(Great pick. Jack of all trades master of none)
SLB: Stephen Nicholas(IDK too much about him lol)
CB: Ike Taylor(Good pick)
CB: Morris Claiborne(Very good pick)
NCB: Brice McCain(Meh. IDK too much again)
FS: Aaron Williams(Don't like. I think he could be better but isn't he a bust at this point?)
SS: William Moore(Good in run support)         

 

The defense is very strong, and Matt Ryan has weapons, but I doubt Ryan's ability to fluctuate under pressure. Bushrod sucks in pass protection and DeCastro is still an unknown. Plus, Ryan will choke in the playoffs again :P. But I think, outside of the weakness at FS, this team is a very good team 
 

[ravensdan]

QB: Matt Ryan(will choke in playoffs)
RB: Doug Martin( Will be all pro in 2-3 years)
WR: Randall Cobb(Good slot WR. Not sure if he can be #1)
WR: Brian Hartline(Very good #2)
TE: Jason Witten(Future HOF TE)
TE: Jordan Cameron(Very solid TE)
LT: Jermon Bushrod(Bushrod actually really sucks in Pass protection, but you got good value where you got him)
LG: David DeCastro(TBD)
RG: Kevin Zeitler(Very good guard. Should be good going forward)
RT: Max Starks(I think you should draft a backup)
DT: Star Lotulelei(TBD)
DT: Jason Jones(Very solid, not spectacular option)
DE: Cameron Wake(Maybe the best 4-3 DE in the game)
DE: Brian Robison(Good player, but IDK too much about him)
WLB: Erin Henderson(Solid option, but not the best in coverage)
MLB: D'Qwell Jackson(Great pick. Jack of all trades master of none)
SLB: Stephen Nicholas(IDK too much about him lol)
CB: Ike Taylor(Good pick)
CB: Morris Claiborne(Very good pick)
NCB: Brice McCain(Meh. IDK too much again)
FS: Aaron Williams(Don't like. I think he could be better but isn't he a bust at this point?)
SS: William Moore(Good in run support)

The defense is very strong, and Matt Ryan has weapons, but I doubt Ryan's ability to fluctuate under pressure. Bushrod sucks in pass protection and DeCastro is still an unknown. Plus, Ryan will choke in the playoffs again :P. But I think, outside of the weakness at FS, this team is a very good team

I must agree a bit with this team assessment. The pass blocking of these two tackles and lack of a center could be a pretty big problem there. This team seems geared to play small ball as all of the receivers and tight ends plus Doug Martin would excel in the short passing game, which could help cover up the suspect tackle play. The guard play should be fantastic for a long time so that is a strong suit.

I think the defense is well constructed with some nice pass rushing, run and pass defense ability jn the front 7. The outside corners are nice for man to man play. I must agree Williams could be a weakness trying to make the shift to free safety. But the unit should be strong enough overall to overcome this.

IMO this team needs certainly a center as well as a deep threat at receiver. If this team is well coached it could overcome its deficiencies and contend in the playoffs.

[SteelersProphet]

 

QB: Matt Ryan(will choke in playoffs)
RB: Doug Martin( Will be all pro in 2-3 years)
WR: Randall Cobb(Good slot WR. Not sure if he can be #1)
WR: Brian Hartline(Very good #2)
TE: Jason Witten(Future HOF TE)
TE: Jordan Cameron(Very solid TE)
LT: Jermon Bushrod(Bushrod actually really sucks in Pass protection, but you got good value where you got him)
LG: David DeCastro(TBD)
RG: Kevin Zeitler(Very good guard. Should be good going forward)
RT: Max Starks(I think you should draft a backup)
DT: Star Lotulelei(TBD)
DT: Jason Jones(Very solid, not spectacular option)
DE: Cameron Wake(Maybe the best 4-3 DE in the game)
DE: Brian Robison(Good player, but IDK too much about him)
WLB: Erin Henderson(Solid option, but not the best in coverage)
MLB: D'Qwell Jackson(Great pick. Jack of all trades master of none)
SLB: Stephen Nicholas(IDK too much about him lol)
CB: Ike Taylor(Good pick)
CB: Morris Claiborne(Very good pick)
NCB: Brice McCain(Meh. IDK too much again)
FS: Aaron Williams(Don't like. I think he could be better but isn't he a bust at this point?)
SS: William Moore(Good in run support)         

 

The defense is very strong, and Matt Ryan has weapons, but I doubt Ryan's ability to fluctuate under pressure. Bushrod sucks in pass protection and DeCastro is still an unknown. Plus, Ryan will choke in the playoffs again :P. But I think, outside of the weakness at FS, this team is a very good team 
 

 

remember when my O-line was called the worst in the game.........its way better than his O-Line

 

im also not a fan of any of his weapons besides witten...and ryan is overrated

 

his offense will have a lot of low scoring games

[gabefergy]

remember when my O-line was called the worst in the game.........its way better than his O-Line

im also not a fan of any of his weapons besides witten...and ryan is overrated

his offense will have a lot of low scoring games

Your OL is worse than this. Randall Cobb is a beast.

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Love Randall Cobb. Been one of my favorite guys since the WildCobb days at Kentucky.

[SteelersProphet]

Your OL is worse than this. Randall Cobb is a beast.

how is my O-line worse

 

Bushrod is below average at best........the same could be said for Martin but I think he will improve-Even

DD-unproven........Foster-proven above average guard- at the moment foster has the advantage

he doesn't have a center........MACK-one of the best centers in the game-huge advantage my line

Zeitler-good guard.........Bergstrom-unproven but I feel he will be an above average guard-advantage Zeitler

Starks-Terrible footwork, not that good..........Webb-will play much better as a RT-advantage Webb

 

now you might not agree with Foster over DD but the others are pretty clear

 

Cobb is good but not as his best receiver....and not with ryan

[gabefergy]

how is my O-line worse

Bushrod is below average at best........the same could be said for Martin but I think he will improve-Even
DD-unproven........Foster-proven above average guard- at the moment foster has the advantage
he doesn't have a center........MACK-one of the best centers in the game-huge advantage my line
Zeitler-good guard.........Bergstrom-unproven but I feel he will be an above average guard-advantage Zeitler
Starks-Terrible footwork, not that good..........Webb-will play much better as a RT-advantage Webb

now you might not agree with Foster over DD but the others are pretty clear

Cobb is good but not as his best receiver....and not with ryan

Bushrod is far better than Martin just because Martin terrible. Decastro is still unproven, but his potential is far greater than Foster who is an average guard. Zietler was fantastic last year and is easily better than unproven Bergstrom. Webb and Starks are both awful so that us a wash. Mack you obviously have an advantage but that is the the only position where your line is better.

Cobb fits very well in a quick hitting offense with Matt Ryan.

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With regards to Bushrod, 2012 was definitely a down season for him in the pass blocking department. But has been generally solid in the running game. And he did have an impressive 2011 campaign, even with the debacle at San Francisco, so the, "below average at best," assessment seems overly harsh.

[gabefergy]

With regards to Bushrod, 2012 was definitely a down season for him in the pass blocking department. But has been generally solid in the running game. And he did have an impressive 2011 campaign, even with the debacle at San Francisco, so the, "below average at best," assessment seems overly harsh.

On the other hand, Jonathan Martin should be labeled terrible at best. I can't imagine anyone who would prefer him over Bushrod who is at least serviceable.

[SteelersProphet]

Bushrod is far better than Martin just because Martin terrible. Decastro is still unproven, but his potential is far greater than Foster who is an average guard. Zietler was fantastic last year and is easily better than unproven Bergstrom. Webb and Starks are both awful so that us a wash. Mack you obviously have an advantage but that is the the only position where your line is better.

Cobb fits very well in a quick hitting offense with Matt Ryan.

 

starks and webb is not a wash that's crazy.....starks  should not be a starter any where...we tried to cut him three years in a row but kept bringing him back due to injuries...and surprise surprise no other team wanted him.....he was home on his couch every time

 

you give martin a bad rap over a poor rookie year where he played multiple positions and never was allowed to get his groove...he had to adjust not only to the nfl but a new team and could not even concentrate playng one position...he will improve...Bushrod will not IMO

[SteelersProphet]

On the other hand, Jonathan Martin should be labeled terrible at best. I can't imagine anyone who would prefer him over Bushrod who is at least serviceable.

terrible at best off one year........wow

[gabefergy]

terrible at best off one year........wow

Its a fact. Martin was absolutely terrible last year. Can he improve? Sure, but don't make excuses for him. Webb was also very poor last year and has a bad track record. How you can think he is considerably better than Starks is curious.

[SteelersProphet]

Its a fact. Martin was absolutely terrible last year. Can he improve? Sure, but don't make excuses for him. Webb was also very poor last year and has a bad track record. How you can think he is considerably better than Starks is curious.

 

Starks IMO is in the running for worst OT in the league.....there were plays that he just stood there and let the defender go right around him....his feet would never move....the only thing he had going for him was that he was huge...but the older he gets the less that ability covers up

 

Webb is much better than starks

 

and when Martin plays ok this season im going to bring it up again.....how many OT's played poorly the first year but now are considered above average......tons

 

my line is solid in the middle....and has two tackles who are not great but IMO have ample room for improvement

 

also Tackle play is not as important as interior play.......especially with ben

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On the other hand, Jonathan Martin should be labeled terrible at best. I can't imagine anyone who would prefer him over Bushrod who is at least serviceable.

 

I personally wouldn't, with how he's struggled at both RT and LT in 2012. I'll be honest in that I didn't see any tape on Martin coming out of Stanford, so I have no trouble giving him some benefit of the doubt that he could improve. Though with how he's fared, it would hailed as a Bobby Massie type of a turn around.

[gabefergy]

I personally wouldn't, with how he's struggled at both RT and LT in 2012. I'll be honest in that I didn't see any tape on Martin coming out of Stanford, so I have no trouble giving him some benefit of the doubt that he could improve. Though with how he's fared, it would hailed as a Bobby Massie type of a turn around.

Martin was a guy who always had TE help at Stanford. When he didn't he struggled. Initially labeled as an early first round pick going into his last year, it became readily apparent that he lacked athleticism and strength. He fell pretty far because his fit as an NFL LT was seriously in question.