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"Who Stays and Who Goes?" - Wide Receiver Edition

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  1. 1. Who Makes the Team at WR

    • Torrey Smith
      102
    • Jacoby Jones
      102
    • Tandon Doss
      89
    • Deonte Thompson
      94
    • David Reed
      53
    • LaQuan Williams
      45
    • Tommy Streeter
      61
    • Aaron Mellette
      53
    • Marlon Brown
      18
    • Rashaad Carter
      0
    • Gerrard Sheppard
      0
    • Marcus Rivers
      0

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Starting with this week, I will be back to each position's rundown taking place on Sunday.  For now, here's the big one: wide receiver.  To pick the number of WR's, I will go by the Ravens standard once again, which is six.  For the poll, please choose only six wide receivers that you think will make the team.

 

Here are the choices:

 

1.  Torrey Smith (24):  Torrey is clearly our best WR.  He really broke out last year, and still has plenty of room to grow into a potential game-changing, superstar.  His speed alone makes him incredibly dangerous, and as he learns to use his hands better, he will only improve.  He's guaranteed.

 

2.  Jacoby Jones (28): Jacoby is an all-pro returner that was also able to give us some big plays at the WR position last year.  He'll likely be relied on more at WR this year, but may end up being the number 3 again if any of the following step up.  He's another guarantee.

 

3.  Tandon Doss (23):  Doss is a receiver known for his hands.  He had a rough game against Indy, but it hasn't been indicative of what has been shown from his this offseason.  Doss has apparently been the best of the bunch, making plenty of tough catches over the middle.  He hasn't truly "impressed" yet, though.  He's in battle for the WR spot anywhere from 2-4.

 

4.  Deonte Thompson (24):  DT is the fan favorite here.  People want him because of his speed, although his hands are still a work in progress.  Being very similar to Torrey and Jacoby may hold him back from being a starter, but he has so much potential that he'll make the team no problem.  He's still in competition for spots 2-4.

 

5.  David Reed (26):  Reed has played very well in OTAs.  He fits the mold of the slot receiver that we're missing.  With Cam gone, Reed was used correctly and actually played very well.  He doubles as a ST standout as a gunner and returner, which only increases his odds of making the team.

 

6.  LaQuan Williams (25):  LaQuan is another fan favorite that just doesn't seem to have a spot.  He's been given many opportunities, but has yet to seize any of them.  Being placed on IR showed his standing within the organization last year.  Word is that he has been generally unimpressive in OTAs, and may be cut this year.

 

7.  Tommy Streeter (23):  Streeter is incredibly raw, but has enormous potential.  You can't teach the size and speed combo that he has.  With that being said, his hands and route running are still a work in progress.  He offers a completely different look on offense, and for that reason, he has a strong chance to make the squad.

 

8.  Aaron Mellette (23):  Mellette is a guy much in the mold of Boldin.  He's big, physical, and not afraid to go over the middle.  While he's impressed at times in OTAs, he's also looked very overmatched as well.  Sometimes his hands show up and other times they don't.  ST is his key to the team at this point.

 

9.  Marlon Brown (22):  Brown is a big guy at 6'4 coming out of Georgia.  He recently suffered a torn ACL, so he may be a stash.  However, he may still be able to come back from the injury, which is why he's still placed here.  If he does make it back to practice, ST is the only way he has a chance to make the team this year.

 

10.  Rashaad Carter (23):  Carter is a WR out of small school Tusculum.  He's been the standout out of the UDFA's that are in camp.  He's shown good speed, quality hands, and a willingness to play ST.  While he's a long shot to make the team, he may be a prime practice squad candidate.

 

11.  Gerrard Sheppard (22):  Sheppard is a local product out of Towson.  He probably doesn't have much of a chance to make the team.  He has average speed and average hands.  He's likely just a camp body.

 

12.  Marcus Rivers (23):  Rivers had a stint with GB, but was cut, which doesn't bode too well considering they're a WR factory.  He's a big guy at 6'5, but doesn't have the speed, hands, or physicality to put that body to use.  He's another likely camp body.

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I'm not sure if you voted but whoever voted did the exact same way as I did lol.

I voted in Smith, Jones, Doss, Thompson, Reed and Streeter. I think Mellette goes on IR and Williams is either gone or on the PS. I'm not sure if he's eligible. I think those 6 give us the most versatility of the group.

I see the team trying to keep JJ fresh so they'll probably try to rotate him with DT and Reed as a KR and spell him with Ajax at PR. I see JJ and DT playing WO opposite of Torrey with Streeter pkaying a role in the redzone. I see Doss and Reed playing the slot a lot as well. Torrey will be our #1.
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I'm not sure if you voted but whoever voted did the exact same way as I did lol.

I voted in Smith, Jones, Doss, Thompson, Reed and Streeter. I think Mellette goes on IR and Williams is either gone or on the PS. I'm not sure if he's eligible. I think those 6 give us the most versatility of the group.

I see the team trying to keep JJ fresh so they'll probably try to rotate him with DT and Reed as a KR and spell him with Ajax at PR. I see JJ and DT playing WO opposite of Torrey with Streeter pkaying a role in the redzone. I see Doss and Reed playing the slot a lot as well. Torrey will be our #1.

 

I actually put in my vote first, so yes, we picked the same guys.  It's fairly obvious that Torrey, Jacoby, Doss, and DT are pretty much locks.  Then, I picked Streeter because of his potential and what he can offer that no one else can.  I picked Reed because he offers so many different things out of one player.  I like LaQuan and Mellette, but don't think they offer anything more than the 6 I picked.  Obviously it's still early and Mellette or LaQuan could shine in TC, but as of now, that's how I see it.

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I actually put in my vote first, so yes, we picked the same guys. It's fairly obvious that Torrey, Jacoby, Doss, and DT are pretty much locks. Then, I picked Streeter because of his potential and what he can offer that no one else can. I picked Reed because he offers so many different things out of one player. I like LaQuan and Mellette, but don't think they offer anything more than the 6 I picked. Obviously it's still early and Mellette or LaQuan could shine in TC, but as of now, that's how I see it.

I wasn't implying you voted the way I did. I was more or less implying we voted the same lol. Sorry if it came across differently.

I agree with all your rationale. I wouldn't be surprised if Mellette won the job over another one of those guys but I think it's more likely he's on IR.
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I wasn't implying you voted the way I did. I was more or less implying we voted the same lol. Sorry if it came across differently.

I agree with all your rationale. I wouldn't be surprised if Mellette won the job over another one of those guys but I think it's more likely he's on IR.

 

Oh not at all.  I was just giving my rationale as well!

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Torrey Smith

Jacoby Jones

Tandon Doss

Deonte Thompson

David Reed

Tommy Streeter

 

Reed makes it on special teams ability as he is very good and underrated there.  He also flashed some WR skills late last season.  Mellette will get stashed on IR like Streeter did last year.  La'Quan unfortunately hasn't shown enough ability in my mind.

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Torrey Smith
Jacoby Jones
Tandon Doss
Deonte Thompson
David Reed
Tommy Streeter

Reed makes it on special teams ability as he is very good and underrated there. He also flashed some WR skills late last season. Mellette will get stashed on IR like Streeter did last year. La'Quan unfortunately hasn't shown enough ability in my mind.

Is Q eligible for the PS?
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Is Q eligible for the PS?

 

Nope.  He can only make the team, be cut, or spend the year on IR.

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Nope. He can only make the team, be cut, or spend the year on IR.

He better be training like he's never trained before or he might be a NYJ.
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Great job on the write up of the guys. You basically nailed everyone in my view. Smith, Reed, JJ, Doss, DT and Streeter are my picks.

 

Smith will improve on being the #1 WR with more diverse game planing. Work him short to intermediate and let that set up the deep ball.

 

JJ will have much more of a role then he did last year. Obviously I think he'll get a few more attempts, but I think his greatest asset is his return ability and he'll help us in that area much more then WR imo.

 

Reed has the potential to be a really good slot guy, but can also line up outside. A mix between Hines Ward and Derrick Mason but more explosive. So many people wanna find the next Boldin, but what if we have a DMase clone, wouldn't the offense benefit just as much?

 

Doss is another guys that can line up inside or out, but I think you maximize what he brings by lining him up inside. I wanna see what he can do being 100%. This is his first healthy offseason and that will be most important for him going forward.

 

DT is a guy I think might end up being our Jacoby Jones of the future honestly. A really good returner and big play waiting to happen on offense. I want to see the guy take all the buzz and turn it into a strong camp.

 

Streeter's size and speed is his ticket. If he makes the team I expect to see him get a few redzone opportunities. As a #6 WR you would like to see that guy play ST, but every other WR not named Smith plays ST, so that might not be a big concern with Tommy.

 

Mellette is exactly what you'd expect from a 7th round pick. Talented but still raw. I love his attitude as a young guy coming in to compete, now I wanna see his play back it up.

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Torrey Smith
Jacoby Jones
Tandon Doss
Deonte Thompson
David Reed
Tommy Streeter

Reed makes it on special teams ability as he is very good and underrated there. He also flashed some WR skills late last season. Mellette will get stashed on IR like Streeter did last year. La'Quan unfortunately hasn't shown enough ability in my mind.



I'll echo this sentiment. There is a chance Mellette makes the team either as a 7th WR it maybe he beats out Reed or Streeter, but I think he ends up landing on the IR or PS.
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Thanks RF23, since I don't want to quote your behemoth of a post.

 

And just as a side note... Isn't it crazy the number of WR's we have in camp?  I understand the whole competition thing, but 13 is a lot to have, especially with only 3 QB's to move the ball around.  I was just glancing at the roster and it seems interesting that we have 13 WR's when we don't have the camp body type guys at RB, CB, and ST.

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Thanks RF23, since I don't want to quote your behemoth of a post.

 

And just as a side note... Isn't it crazy the number of WR's we have in camp?  I understand the whole competition thing, but 13 is a lot to have, especially with only 3 QB's to move the ball around.  I was just glancing at the roster and it seems interesting that we have 13 WR's when we don't have the camp body type guys at RB, CB, and ST.

 

WR is one of the more physically demanding positions. So 13 isn't a really high number when you consider 90 guys are in camp. You can get by with 5 RBs because it's only one position. If one of those guys get a nick, he can be replaced without hiccup. However if you get 1 or 2 WRs get a tight hammy, you need bodies to throw in there.

 

There is a good among of CBs and you have to count the Safeties with them, so it's a pretty good amount of DBs currently on the team. It's 13 WRs and 15 DBs so that's a good blend.

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WR is one of the more physically demanding positions. So 13 isn't a really high number when you consider 90 guys are in camp. You can get by with 5 RBs because it's only one position. If one of those guys get a nick, he can be replaced without hiccup. However if you get 1 or 2 WRs get a tight hammy, you need bodies to throw in there.

There is a good among of CBs and you have to count the Safeties with them, so it's a pretty good amount of DBs currently on the team. It's 13 WRs and 15 DBs so that's a good blend.

I don't want to quote your massive post so I'll quote you here lol: I agree 100% regarding the JJ-DT comparison. I think DT will be the one to replace JJ if he can show it on the field on ST as a returner. Otherwise I won't be surprised if David Reed is our returner even for a year.
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I'll echo this sentiment. There is a chance Mellette makes the team either as a 7th WR it maybe he beats out Reed or Streeter, but I think he ends up landing on the IR or PS.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Mellette make the team. I think he has a good chance. I'm just not sure we'll carry 7WR. It's certainly possible but I think we'll carry more TE if we want to go that route. Since Dickson looks like he'll play a bigger role as a receiver I wouldn't be surprised to see 4TE on the roster.
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Thanks RF23, since I don't want to quote your behemoth of a post.

And just as a side note... Isn't it crazy the number of WR's we have in camp? I understand the whole competition thing, but 13 is a lot to have, especially with only 3 QB's to move the ball around. I was just glancing at the roster and it seems interesting that we have 13 WR's when we don't have the camp body type guys at RB, CB, and ST.

Could I make a request for these future topics? Could you include their ages? I think it would be a nice addition because you can't really stash an old UDFA or stay pick for multiple years. You know what I'm saying?
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Could I make a request for these future topics? Could you include their ages? I think it would be a nice addition because you can't really stash an old UDFA or stay pick for multiple years. You know what I'm saying?

 

Absolutely.  I'll go ahead and edit what I already have as well.

 

And for everyone else, if there is anything you think that can be done to improve these threads, feel free to let me know.

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Absolutely. I'll go ahead and edit what I already have as well.

And for everyone else, if there is anything you think that can be done to improve these threads, feel free to let me know.

Thanks. I keep forgetting that sort of these guys are as "old" as they are. I'm very happy with the age of Torrey.

Also over been thinking: do you think it's possible Marlon might go on the PUP? I've been thinking about Doss and Reed. They both have issues with injuries. It might be wiser to bet prepared for this kind of thing.
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I have Torrey,Jones,Thompson,Williams,Doss,Streeter & Mellete.

It's by far going to be the funnest TC competition we'll see this year.
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I have Torrey,Jones,Thompson,Williams,Doss,Streeter & Mellete.

It's by far going to be the funnest TC competition we'll see this year.

So you say we carry 7WR with David Reed gone? You think Williams makes it on ST and durability? I'm not disagreeing. I just want to hear or rather read your thought process here.
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So you say we carry 7WR with David Reed gone? You think Williams makes it on ST and durability? I'm not disagreeing. I just want to hear or rather read your thought process here.

Totally forgot about Reed. He makes the team too. I don't think we use the IR on Mallete, but it is a possibility.

8 WR's sound like a lot, but with the uncertainty we have I think we rather keep some familiar faces for more options and depth purposes. If anyone out of the ones I've listed get the axe, (which I'm sure one will) I unfortunately think it would be LaQuan with Streeter to follow. I don't know how the IR works but I don't think we would put one of them on IR, and in Streeters case a 2nd time.
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I don't want to quote your massive post so I'll quote you here lol: I agree 100% regarding the JJ-DT comparison. I think DT will be the one to replace JJ if he can show it on the field on ST as a returner. Otherwise I won't be surprised if David Reed is our returner even for a year.

 

I actually think that David Reed might be the better overall returner between he, JJ and DT, just in term on being consistent. I know he had the fumbles and all, but if you can remember his returns he consistently put the offense in good position to start a drive. Now make no mistake about it, JJ had one of the best seasons as a returner that i've ever seen. But before last season the guy only had 1 return of longer then 40 yards in his career. So i'm speaking more on consistency over flash.

 

The reason why I see DT taking that returner role is because I'm actually one of the rare people that think D. Reed will have a fairly large role offensively, starting this year and going forward. So for DT that returner and big play guy fits within this offense going forward because I feel it'll be more of a WR by committee with all the guys. That same consistency as a returner I think David Reed will bring to being a WR and the same flash and big play ability DT has as a returner he'll bring as a WR. So that's my thinking on both guys, but I could see either being the top KOR next year if JJ isn't retained.

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Totally forgot about Reed. He makes the team too. I don't think we use the IR on Mallete, but it is a possibility.

8 WR's sound like a lot, but with the uncertainty we have I think we rather keep some familiar faces for more options and depth purposes. If anyone out of the ones I've listed get the axe, (which I'm sure one will) I unfortunately think it would be LaQuan with Streeter to follow. I don't know how the IR works but I don't think we would put one of them on IR, and in Streeters case a 2nd time.


I can't see 8 WRs. Its just unheard of, 7 is a rarity. I agree that Laquan would be first to go out of that group.
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Totally forgot about Reed. He makes the team too. I don't think we use the IR on Mallete, but it is a possibility.

8 WR's sound like a lot, but with the uncertainty we have I think we rather keep some familiar faces for more options and depth purposes. If anyone out of the ones I've listed get the axe, (which I'm sure one will) I unfortunately think it would be LaQuan with Streeter to follow. I don't know how the IR works but I don't think we would put one of them on IR, and in Streeters case a 2nd time.

I'm not sure man. I'm just not sure. I've never heard of a team carrying 8 WR at one time on the active roster. I'm not so sure Aaron Mellette clears waivers if he's cut which is required to go on the practice squad. I'm fairly confident Tommy Streeter won't clear waivers.

I just can't see Streeter cut. I think he offers too much in terms of variety to be cut due to his size and speed combo. I think Reed would be cut because we have great depth at returner and he does have a checkered injury history. I still think Hey makes the team because of his ST play and his untapped potential at WR thanks to Cam.
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I don't think there's any way possible that we keep any more than 6 WR's.  I don't think LaQuan is talented enough to take a roster spot from someone at another position and I think Streeter, Mellette, whoever can be kept without using a roster spot via IR.

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I don't think there's any way possible that we keep any more than 6 WR's. I don't think LaQuan is talented enough to take a roster spot from someone at another position and I think Streeter, Mellette, whoever can be kept without using a roster spot via IR.

I'm not sure they'll IR Streeter for a second year. Isn't he 25? He needs some game reps. I know what you're saying. Just adding two Lincoln
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I'm not sure they'll IR Streeter for a second year. Isn't he 25? He needs some game reps. I know what you're saying. Just adding two Lincoln

 

Just throwing out names.  If they deem Streeter not worthy of a roster spot this year, I can't see us just cutting him.  Enter IR, even if it does slow his progression.  I really think Mellette is that #7 WR, though.

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I said I was sure one of them would be cut, just can't determine who at this point. Once training camp rolls along we'll have a better idea solely based on reports. We won't carry 8, I'm just unsure how the PS & IR work on here. If Streeter, Williams or Melette are eligible to make the PS and don't have to go through waivers first, then it would be easier for me to have a better idea. I don't think any of them would clear waivers.

I would say the locks to make it are Smith,Jones,Doss, Reed & Thompson. If we're flexible enough to designate Streeter,Mellete or Williams to the PS then that's where I think they would go. Again, unsure about the rules with that. I just can't see us cutting more than one of them.

I think we carry 7 if Leach isn't resigned. Signs point to a bigger passing game, with the question marks at receiver I wouldn't be surprised to see us carry that many.

Also with a couple of ST's gone from last year and the suspension of Thompson for the first quarter of the season, I can see us using some of those receivers primarly as special teamers if they can prove they're good enough....while also judging our #3,4 and 5 WR's and let the competition extend further than just TC and preseason.
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Totally forgot about Reed. He makes the team too. I don't think we use the IR on Mallete, but it is a possibility.

8 WR's sound like a lot, but with the uncertainty we have I think we rather keep some familiar faces for more options and depth purposes. If anyone out of the ones I've listed get the axe, (which I'm sure one will) I unfortunately think it would be LaQuan with Streeter to follow. I don't know how the IR works but I don't think we would put one of them on IR, and in Streeters case a 2nd time.

 

Uncertainty or not, 8 WRs is a lot. When it's all said and done at least one of these young guys will be cut.

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Also with a couple of ST's gone from last year and the suspension of Thompson for the first quarter of the season, I can see us using some of those receivers primarly as special teamers if they can prove they're good enough....while also judging our #3,4 and 5 WR's and let the competition extend further than just TC and preseason.

 

This is the Ace up the sleeve for the Ravens imo. With CT suspended, he wouldn't count against the 53 during those 4 games. This will allow the Ravens to keep a guy like Streeter or Mellette from being exposed to other teams, if the PS is the route the Ravens go with those guys.

 

If a player is cut before the final rosters are set then he can be placed on another teams PS squad without all the waiver wire stuff. However if a play is cut after the 53 man roster is set for the season, that player has to clear waivers. In order for another team to sign him, they must claim him and place him on their 53 man roster. If a player is claimed off waivers the original team has the ability to pull the guy off waivers and sign him to their 53 man roster.

 

So just by making the 53 man roster for a day could help the Ravens keep one of the young developmental WRs.

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