Steelers W Over Patriots Better Or Worse For Us?

[CTravenfan]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='96842' date='Dec 1 2008, 05:28 PM']i admit that im a steelers fan so alot of this will be viewed as fan biased but i see us dominating the cowboys....the steelers play the best at this time of year. we are a cold weather team the cowboys on the other hand play in texas....our defense lives for 30 and under games and thats what they will find in pitt i predict a repeat of yesterday starring romo and his sidekick owens[/quote]
yea because that cold weather helped you alot twice against a team from florida, oh wait you lost to the jags twice in your house last year. And they are far from a cold weather team

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='CTravenfan' post='96979' date='Dec 1 2008, 08:19 PM']yea because that cold weather helped you alot twice against a team from florida, oh wait you lost to the jags twice in your house last year. And they are far from a cold weather team[/quote]

actually they play like a cold weather team, see its a combo, you have to play cold weather football which we do, you do and the jags do. that low to the ground...grind it out football.

but it also hurts to not be used to cold weather and to the jags credit they dont seem to let it get to them

[Lets_Go_Joe]

[quote name='CTravenfan' post='96979' date='Dec 1 2008, 08:19 PM']yea because that cold weather helped you alot twice against a team from florida, oh wait you lost to the jags twice in your house last year. And they are far from a cold weather team[/quote]
Haha, I was about to say this. Yeah the Jags schooled them last year, and Dallas is capable of anything any given sunday. They could explode for 40+ points or implode for under 10, you never know. Hopefully Marion Barber will be back in time for the game and be productive.

[kash96ravenstotalfan]

[quote name='JUICE tm' post='96740' date='Dec 1 2008, 01:13 PM']i would have rather the patriots have won and the colts lost. we can beat the patriots if it comes down to it in the playoffs. we CAN NOT beat the colts. EVER.[/quote]
I don't agree, new team, new QB, new head coach. I think that anything is possible this year, including beating the Colts!!

[kash96ravenstotalfan]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='96859' date='Dec 1 2008, 05:49 PM']why the anger lol...first of all we played the giants like we belonged in that game you did not im afraid to say....id hold off insulting the skins untill you play them...and the pats game was a fluke dont make me laugh we destroyed them....the fact that they lost the ball five times isnt luck its called harrison striping the ball because hes a beast...i bet if we beat the cowboys or the titans your going to come up with some reason why "it shouldnt have counted" give me a break give us credit...i give you guys credit[/quote]
please go back to your Steelers board. We've heard enough from you here.

[flynismo]

[quote name='kash96ravenstotalfan' post='96986' date='Dec 1 2008, 08:45 PM']please go back to your Steelers board. We've heard enough from you here.[/quote]


If you don't like what he has to say, ignore him. That simple. He has just as much right being here as you do.

[Marc2k6]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='96697' date='Dec 1 2008, 10:14 AM']I think that the steelers winning did (as much as i HATE to admit is) help the Ravens. It allows the Ravens the ability to lose another game and still make the playoffs, meaning we don't HAVE to beat Pittsburgh for a chance.

if the steelers only lose to the us(which probablly WILL NOT happen) then the steelers will win the division because both have won the same number of games within the AFC North and a 1-1 head to head record, so we have to go to tiebreaker 3.

In that case pittsburgh wins because the steelers have the better record within the AFC as two of their losses came from NFC opponents and so the Steelers would have 2 in AFC losses while the Ravens will have 3 in AFC losses.

So basically while it makes it far more difficult for us to to win the division, it makes it far more likely that we can make the playoffs(getting to the playoffs to me at least is more important than winning the division) also if we can make it to the playoffs and win we will likely face pittsburgh at some time so the better team in the rivalry can be settled there.


Thoughts?[/quote]

We have to do our self a favor and win atleast 2 of the next 4 games, I think we shoud win all of them but we will see. But the Steeler's beating the Pats put them back in the wildcard race, it also move the Steeler's ahead in the division race. All we have to do is beat the Redskin's, Steeler's, Cowboy's and Jag's. It is put up or shut up time!

[flynismo]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='96866' date='Dec 1 2008, 05:56 PM']wow and you guys say steelers fans are ignorant...i hope everybody takes this angry message as proof that all teams have ignorant fans[/quote]


yeah, very disappointing to see garbage like that on our forum. Sorry, some of us need to learn to show respect to others. Or at least have a little respect for ourselves. And if THAT'S asking too much, show the other Raven's fans enough respect to not bring that crap here.

[flynismo]

obviously this helps us in the wild card race.
But I'm not a fan of the wild card to begin with. A lot of Ravens fans are annoyed that we don't receive recognition or respect from the media (I'm one of them, admittedly)...making the playoffs as a wild card rather than winning our division would only encourage the Rodney Dangerfield treatment that we get.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='flynismo' post='96994' date='Dec 1 2008, 09:08 PM']yeah, very disappointing to see garbage like that on our forum. Sorry, some of us need to learn to show respect to others. Or at least have a little respect for ourselves. And if THAT'S asking too much, show the other Raven's fans enough respect to not bring that crap here.[/quote]

yea its ok im used to anger and i dont hold his remarks against anyone else, as im sure you guys dont credit me with some of the dumb things my "steelers nation" countrymen have said throughout the years

[quote name='flynismo' post='97000' date='Dec 1 2008, 09:23 PM']obviously this helps us in the wild card race.
But I'm not a fan of the wild card to begin with. A lot of Ravens fans are annoyed that we don't receive recognition or respect from the media (I'm one of them, admittedly)...making the playoffs as a wild card rather than winning our division would only encourage the Rodney Dangerfield treatment that we get.[/quote]

i dont know guys lately ive been hearin some good things in the media about you guys....everytime espn talks about us they always throw in "they have to win the division first" and then talk about how great the ravens are lol. so watch out guys you might be on the verge of bein condemned as bandwagon fans as i was the year after the 2005 superbowl win lol

[ravensgirlx88]

He's right, I havent heard ANY negativity. Even from ESPN latley. Although just now on the Jags/Texans game they made a comment that the Ravens had to tough a scheduele to make it to the play-offs, Guess we'll see.

[flynismo]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='97014' date='Dec 1 2008, 09:41 PM']so watch out guys you might be on the verge of bein condemned as bandwagon fans as i was the year after the 2005 superbowl win lol[/quote]


I can live with that!

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='97021' date='Dec 1 2008, 09:46 PM']He's right, I havent heard ANY negativity. Even from ESPN latley. Although just now on the Jags/Texans game they made a comment that the Ravens had to tough a scheduele to make it to the play-offs, Guess we'll see.[/quote]

well i think they do but that doesnt mean anything bad about the ravens.....but honestly would you be suprised if you lost any of the next three games, i know you think you can win and you probably can but would it be unforeseeable if you lost any of those games

[flynismo]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='97021' date='Dec 1 2008, 09:46 PM']He's right, I havent heard ANY negativity. Even from ESPN latley. Although just now on the Jags/Texans game they made a comment that the Ravens had to tough a scheduele to make it to the play-offs, Guess we'll see.[/quote]


No, I don't mean that the media says negative things about us, it's just that they normally don't give us credit when it's due. Well, other than sprinkling around a random "vaunted Ravens defense" here and there...

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='flynismo' post='97024' date='Dec 1 2008, 09:52 PM']No, I don't mean that the media says negative things about us, it's just that they normally don't give us credit when it's due. Well, other than sprinkling around a random "vaunted Ravens defense" here and there...[/quote]

yea my friend its the curse of the afc north....we arent usually explosive so it takes alot to commentators to notice us, we are more slow and steady wins the race types

[flynismo]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='97023' date='Dec 1 2008, 09:51 PM']well i think they do but that doesnt mean anything bad about the ravens.....but honestly would you be suprised if you lost any of the next three games, i know you think you can win and you probably can but would it be unforeseeable if you lost any of those games[/quote]


All four of our remaining games are VERY losable. I just don't think we will lose them.

[FerrariFan87]

Either way it helped us, it just put our chance at snatching the division on hold for a few more weeks

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='97025' date='Dec 1 2008, 09:56 PM']yea my friend its the curse of the afc north....we arent usually explosive so it takes alot to commentators to notice us, we are more slow and steady wins the race types[/quote]

Sorry, but the media has been and always will be in the Steelers' tank

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' post='97036' date='Dec 1 2008, 10:14 PM']Sorry, but the media has been and always will be in the Steelers' tank[/quote]

if by that do you mean we get talked about....because we really dont they always just say the steelers defense is good and move on even at 9-3 and just beating the patriots only one guy on espn said we were good and then right after said so are you

[3Zach21]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='97041' date='Dec 1 2008, 10:27 PM']if by that do you mean we get talked about....because we really dont they always just say the steelers defense is good and move on even at 9-3 and just beating the patriots only one guy on espn said we were good and then right after said so are you[/quote]

Yeah, ok. On CBS Nfl Today pregame show, 60 % of the show is about the Steelers, because we have to listen to lockjaw talk about how "good" ben roethlisberger is. Another example, yesterday during the Pats-Steelers game, the one commentator besides Gumble (I dont know his name) would always stick up for the Steelers. It's incredible.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='3Zach21' post='97048' date='Dec 1 2008, 10:36 PM']Yeah, ok. On CBS Nfl Today pregame show, 60 % of the show is about the Steelers, because we have to listen to lockjaw talk about how "good" ben roethlisberger is. Another example, yesterday during the Pats-Steelers game, the one commentator besides Gumble (I dont know his name) would always stick up for the Steelers. It's incredible.[/quote]

you mean while a commentator was watchin us destroy a playoff calibur team they said good stuff about us...shocking

im sure they trashed you all day long during the eagles game huh

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='97041' date='Dec 1 2008, 10:27 PM']if by that do you mean we get talked about....because we really dont they always just say the steelers defense is good and move on even at 9-3 and just beating the patriots only one guy on espn said we were good and then right after said so are you[/quote]

There's waaaaay toooooo much to get into all of that here... it's just a fact, but I am fine with that.

[flynismo]

The Steelers get a ton of hype and recognition; but I'm okay with that because they deserve it (I feel unclean after admitting that )...
Look at Sunday's game though. Yes, Cincinnati made a few mistakes they shouldn't have, such as fumbling a snap...and that is mainly what the announcers focused on. The impression I would have gotten if I were listening to the game on the radio is that we won because of a dropped snap (that they recovered anyway) or a dropped pass by TJ, not because we swatted four or five passes at the LOS, threw bombs downfield at will, returned a pick for a touchdown or held them to 155 yards of total offense (more than half of which came on a single drive, that resulted in a FG no less...). But if the almighty Atlanta Ryans or Patriots did this to Cincy, the heavens would have opened up pouring praise and glory on the saviors of the NFL...

No, I'm not annoyed, lol...

[flynismo]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='97050' date='Dec 1 2008, 10:48 PM']im sure they trashed you all day long during the eagles game huh[/quote]


No, they were too busy babbling about Reid/McNabb to realize the reason WHY Philly looked like a Div III squad.

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='flynismo' post='97073' date='Dec 2 2008, 12:57 AM']No, they were too busy babbling about Reid/McNabb to realize the reason WHY Philly looked like a Div III squad.[/quote]

Yup! And we didn't get ANY media respect for that game. The only thing everybody was talking about was Mcnabb. And he wasent able to produce against us in 2 straight Quarters. In or OUT I still think we would have run away with the Eagles game. The scored 40 some points on the Cards!!!

[ravensgirlx88]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='97023' date='Dec 1 2008, 10:51 PM']well i think they do but that doesnt mean anything bad about the ravens.....but honestly would you be suprised if you lost any of the next three games, i know you think you can win and you probably can but would it be unforeseeable if you lost any of those games[/quote]


First off, thats an idiotic statement to make. the only team I see us MAYBE losing is Dallas. Everyone is saying we can beat the steelers and the redskins. and after the JAGS horriable preformance last night against the Texans I know we have that win. Considering the Jags have nothing to play for having it be the last game of the season.

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='ravensgirlx88' post='97152' date='Dec 2 2008, 08:34 AM']First off, thats an idiotic statement to make. the only team I see us MAYBE losing is Dallas. Everyone is saying we can beat the steelers and the redskins. and after the JAGS horriable preformance last night against the Texans I know we have that win. Considering the Jags have nothing to play for having it be the last game of the season.[/quote]

how is that an idiotic statement all i said that those loses were possible...which if your at all honest with your self you have to admit that you can lose them

for example just like you with the ravens i expect the steelers to run the table but i admit that we could lose any of those games(except maybe the browns game now) im not insulting the ravens when i say the skins and the cowboys and the steelers are all elite status teams. as are the ravens but elite vs elite is always a toss up

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='flynismo' post='97073' date='Dec 1 2008, 11:57 PM']No, they were too busy babbling about Reid/McNabb to realize the reason WHY Philly looked like a Div III squad.[/quote]

well you have to admit that the bengals were not the reason the eagles were terrible, it was the eagles. and if that is true then it is very possible the eagles fell apart facing a great team, but they were not themselves. and im not saying you would have lost if they were better, i actually think you still would have one but they did crumble

[FerrariFan87]

[quote name='STEELERS PROPHET268' post='97175' date='Dec 2 2008, 09:52 AM']well you have to admit that the bengals were not the reason the eagles were terrible, it was the eagles. and if that is true then it is very possible the eagles fell apart facing a great team, but they were not themselves. and im not saying you would have lost if they were better, i actually think you still would have one but they did crumble[/quote]

Hmm, didn't the Eagles beat the Steelers or am I dreaming?

[SteelersProphet]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' post='97201' date='Dec 2 2008, 10:27 AM']Hmm, didn't the Eagles beat the Steelers or am I dreaming?[/quote]

lol.....wow i never get used people taking everything i say as a steelers attack......look what i mean is its all about timing in football....just like we will get a break facin the titans because we know what they are about more than you did(due to it being early in the year) and they have alot of defensive injuries

you guys played the eagles during an internal collapse....now im not saying you still wouldnt have won im not

im just saying that we all know the bengals cant play like it would seem they did against the eagles....now if thats true why cant you admit that the eagles were a little messed up when you played them there is no shame in that