Bernard Pollard animosity?

[AsianRice]

So it's wrong to cut a player for undermining the coaching staff?

 

Okay.

or can't cover?

 

It's business btw and you have to earn your paycheck.....

 

PS: Love Pollard as a football player though, regardless...

[arnie_uk]

So it's wrong to cut a player for undermining the coaching staff?
 
Okay.

its not undermining coaching staff if its an open floor like he said it was. If tht was the case, as I said earlier there should be no repercussions of what was said at that moment. Obviously we don't know how it went down and even of it played a part n his release, but if it was an open floor like he said in the interview, and if it was a main factor in his release he has every right to feel hard done by,

If he started a mutiny leading to an open floor, that's a different story

[Inqui]

its not undermining coaching staff if its an open floor like he said it was. If tht was the case, as I said earlier there should be no repercussions of what was said at that moment. Obviously we don't know how it went down and even of it played a part n his release, but if it was an open floor like he said in the interview, and if it was a main factor in his release he has every right to feel hard done by,

If he started a mutiny leading to an open floor, that's a different story

So how about his coverage stats? Someone else was saying 75% of the passes going his way were finding their target, which isn't a good look for a safety. I could care more about the discussion about Harbaugh's regime, but I'd be surprised if his coverage and penalty count weren't factored into the decision to release him.

[arnie_uk]

So how about his coverage stats? Someone else was saying 75% of the passes going his way were finding their target, which isn't a good look for a safety. I could care more about the discussion about Harbaugh's regime, but I'd be surprised if his coverage and penalty count weren't factored into the decision to release him.

i wasn't talking about his coverage, I even said I don't know if this whole mutiny even played a part in his release, because there was, Uno, on field issues that were justifiable in cutting him.

Although, doing it before the draft and without have reed, they really were bare, and te ravens don't normally do tat without good reason, so it leads many to believe there was more than just on field play, because even with broken ribs he was still better than the other guys on the roster, and to cut a guy, which got minimal savings, to leave those payers that were worse than him the previous year, it def begs the question was there more to it than the play on the field.

But back to your point, I wasn't talking about his play on the field, I even acknowledged there could have been other factors, not just the mutiny.

[jazz1988]

 Some say it was because of his lack of coverage skills or his loud mouth but the real reason why  Pollard was cut will probably never be known to the ravens fans .  I remember Ozzie saying that when it comes to defense they like to add players that can help Ray Lewis do what he does best and Ed Reed as well . Pollard was probably the perfect compliment to the Ed  Reed because he was the hard hiiting safety that dare any player to come across the middle of the field while Ed Reed was the  mad scientist in coverage.

 

Ozzie may have came to the conclusion during the offseason that Ed Reed most likely will not return so he figured there was no  reason to keep Pollard any more also add in the fact that this year draft was considered to have a very talented class of safeties.  coaches views on the upside of Christian Thompson and Omar Brown may have factor in to  the decision to let Pollard go.

[jraven22]

I couldn't figure out why we cut him until now. He's being so immature about it, its a business. I loved him as a player, its a shame that his attitude got in the way of his career as a raven... 

 

Much happier with Matt Elam though. He's like a mini Pollard with a better attitude!

[Tank 92]

Who cares why he was released?  I trust the judgement of the coach and FO. They seem to do a pretty decent job.

[Tiz]

Maybe part of the reason Pollard was let go was for his mouth, but he was also a bit of a problem on the field with the penalties and blown assignments.

Quoting this because of the article about harbaugh wanting to rebuild this team. They talked about the unnecessary penalties on that 2007 squad and the image they had of guys who talked too,much, played for themselves and were undisciplined. Maher s has preached team and discipline to the players so if you're not promoting team and you're not playing under control then you're under inning what the coach is trying to do.

There were other articles about how pollard wasn't the best teammate with some of the younger guys so when you add his being exploited in the passing game its easy to see why he was cut.

As someone else said, he can argue and complain about harbs all day but when you're not being coveted long term by any team maybe the problem is you and not them.

All that said I'm thankful for the physicality he played with but hell even Harrison is more respectful of Pittsburgh than pollard is of Baltimore and they essentially did Harrison the same we did pollard.

[Tiz]

Some say it was because of his lack of coverage skills or his loud mouth but the real reason why  Pollard was cut will probably never be known to the ravens fans .  I remember Ozzie saying that when it comes to defense they like to add players that can help Ray Lewis do what he does best and Ed Reed as well . Pollard was probably the perfect compliment to the Ed  Reed because he was the hard hiiting safety that dare any player to come across the middle of the field while Ed Reed was the  mad scientist in coverage.
 
Ozzie may have came to the conclusion during the offseason that Ed Reed most likely will not return so he figured there was no  reason to keep Pollard any more also add in the fact that this year draft was considered to have a very talented class of safeties.  coaches views on the upside of Christian Thompson and Omar Brown may have factor in to  the decision to let Pollard go.

True. With huff and Elam
It reminds me of dawan and reed
Where both could drop back deep for us and both could step up and play the run.
It allows for the defense to give one look but have a multitude of plays that come out of it. That just wasn't going to happen
With pollard. He is a casualty of his own limitations.

[K-Dog]

I lost a lot of respect for Pollard after reading the tweets between him and Oher.
 

Michael Oher Chides Bernard Pollard

Former Ravens safety Bernard Pollard made news Wednesday by saying he’s not going to attend the team’s Ring Ceremony or White House visit.

Tackle Michael Oher decided to chide Pollard a bit on Twitter. Here’s the string of tweets from Oher:

@Crushboy31 oh so you can't come pick up your ring?

@Crushboy31 I'm just saying bro last time I talked to you you said we were family after the super now you don't wanna hang?

@Crushboy31 smh you will forever be a tough guy I guess...tragic

Pollard responded:

@MichaelOher: lol you better chill.

@MichaelOher: settle... You about to get a few people out in their place! Don't do that bro

After that, Oher tweeted, “I'm only joking with BP!!”

[Tiz]

I lost a lot of respect for Pollard after reading the tweets between him and Oher.

Bp didnt seem like he was doing anything but joking around with oher and vice versa.
These two have each others phone numbers. Trash talking between the two wouodmhave happened on the phone.

[The Raven]

Bp didnt seem like he was doing anything but joking around with oher and vice versa.
These two have each others phone numbers. Trash talking between the two wouodmhave happened on the phone.

 

In this day and age, how can you be sure of that?

 

There has been plenty of trash talking between players over twitter.

[Tiz]

In this day and age, how can you be sure of that?
 
There has been plenty of trash talking between players over twitter.

We're not talking about people who were never on the same team
It'd be similar to Ted johnon and Vince wilfork

Anyways look at the tweets Bp had lol in response to oher talking trash. Oher said they were joking because you could see other people thinking too much of it. Mao look at the tweets directly and you will see other people who don't know either guy trying to get involved which is why Bp made the comment about other people.

[K-Dog]

Bp didnt seem like he was doing anything but joking around with oher and vice versa.
These two have each others phone numbers. Trash talking between the two wouodmhave happened on the phone.

In context with every thing else being said, he is bitter.

[display name]

All I say is, I respect the way Pollard played football and how he has acted off the field until now. I respect the way Harbaugh has coached the team from what I know. Anything that happened inside the Under Armour Training Center is a mystery to us.

[CapoRocky]

Here's a dose of reality for Pollard.  That was the only Super Bowl ring that he will ever get.  We don't play the Titans this year at all.  They will not make the playoffs either.  He's only signed for one year, so he could be out of football next year.  It's the reality of being past 30 years of age in the NFL.

[GrimCoconut]

Yeah... the tweets between Oher and Pollard seem more like two friends having an inside joke more than a fight.

[Dudeman]

Time for everyone to move on from this topic. 

 

Pollard has some sour grapes, but its time to get over it.  Some fans didn't want to see him go and others say good riddance but it's still time to move on from that.

 

It's funny how much of this thread is about Cam, Harbs, and the way the front office handles things. 

 

Ozzie has always said it's not about one play, or circumstance but about the volume of work.  It was the same with the Joe Flacco contract discussions in that one game, doesn't define a career. 

 

Also it's interesting to note how much of the way Pollard has handled his release shows how his outspokenness can work against him sometimes.  Harbaugh has always said its about the team, team, team and yet Pollard has made it out as personal.

 

I don't think it was personal BP.  This was a combination of production, upside, age, and price-tag.

[ravensdfan]

Time for everyone to move on from this topic. 

 

Pollard has some sour grapes, but its time to get over it.  Some fans didn't want to see him go and others say good riddance but it's still time to move on from that.

 

It's funny how much of this thread is about Cam, Harbs, and the way the front office handles things. 

 

Ozzie has always said it's not about one play, or circumstance but about the volume of work.  It was the same with the Joe Flacco contract discussions in that one game, doesn't define a career. 

 

Also it's interesting to note how much of the way Pollard has handled his release shows how his outspokenness can work against him sometimes.  Harbaugh has always said its about the team, team, team and yet Pollard has made it out as personal.

 

I don't think it was personal BP.  This was a combination of production, upside, age, and price-tag.

 

 

I agree. I think that the release surprised him even more than it did us fans. I also think that it was the combination of Reed and Pollard that worked and once Reed wasn't coming back, Pollard wasn't the player they needed.

 

Thanks BP for giving everything you had on the field. Sorry you're stuck on the Titans but wish you luck.

[Sami84]

Pollard is hardly old...no one born in 1985 is ''old''

[cwfRaven]

Pollard is hardly old...no one born in 1985 is ''old''

 

Lol, I agree! Although I suppose it's a matter of perspective. Kinda like when I was 16 and 30 was ancient! ;)

[easternshore97]

Time for everyone to move on from this topic. 

 

Pollard has some sour grapes, but its time to get over it.  Some fans didn't want to see him go and others say good riddance but it's still time to move on from that.

 

It's funny how much of this thread is about Cam, Harbs, and the way the front office handles things. 

 

Ozzie has always said it's not about one play, or circumstance but about the volume of work.  It was the same with the Joe Flacco contract discussions in that one game, doesn't define a career. 

 

Also it's interesting to note how much of the way Pollard has handled his release shows how his outspokenness can work against him sometimes.  Harbaugh has always said its about the team, team, team and yet Pollard has made it out as personal.

 

I don't think it was personal BP.  This was a combination of production, upside, age, and price-tag.

Kinda agree...but really disagree more. Depends on how you define outspokenness. After all, the only transgression, in my mind, would be when asked about whether he'll attend the trip to the White House. If there was some other information that was sent, I might get where you're going with his "outspokenness" but the radio station guys called him up long after the fact to ask him questions. He probably shouldn't have let it be know how he really felt, but he slipped up.

 

Re: combination of production, upside, age, and price-tag, Pollard led team in tackles. You'll probably retort that his pass coverage was horrendous but we can go through grading each and every player and probably only a handful will be complete at their position. Upside - he knew the defense, recently signed an extension, and played in the Super Bowl with broken ribs. Age - 28 is still fairly young, Michael Huff is 30 as is Marcus Spears, as is Chris Canty.

 

If anything, it could very well have been personal given how he's now on his 4th NFL team in 8 seasons.

[gabefergy]

Pollard is hardly old...no one born in 1985 is ''old''

I certainly hope anyone born in 1985 isn't considered "old"

[ThePurpleWall]

blah blah drama

[T3hRaven]

I thought for sure he'd be cut, but it looks like Ravens nation got him at least to third place.  I'm glad the gymnast got cut.

[beanfigger]

I thought for sure he'd be cut, but it looks like Ravens nation got him at least to third place.  I'm glad the gymnast got cut.

 

Are you in the right thread?

[rmw10]

Are you in the right thread?

 

Didn't you hear that Pollard was dancing now?  Sheesh ;)

[T3hRaven]

Are you in the right thread?

 

Oops.

 

I'll just go hide now.

[GrimCoconut]

No wonder Bernard Pollard has animosity. He thought his dancing skills would land HIM on DWTS: