Your Dream Play

[CARavensFan]

When we drafted Juszczyk it got me thinking about formations we could have with both Juice and Leach in the backfield and that in turned got me wondering what other awesome plays you might have bouncing around in your head.

 

Here was my "Beast" short-yardage formation/play:

 

O   O   X   O   O

                 QB            TE

 

 FB      FB

 

 RB

 

There are 10 guys in that formation, depending on the situation the 11th guy could be a WR, TE, or a 6th OL.

 

I just like this play because of the flexibility it offers for misdirection. You could either run to either side behind Juice or Leach, you could play-action and have Juice and Rice (or Pierce) head out into the flat, or you could have a screen for Rice as well. There is also the option for motion and move Juice and Rice out wide. Ahh so many options, is it time for football yet?

 

Anyway that's my dream play, what are your guys perfect play/formation you'd like to see the Ravens run?

[GrimCoconut]

If I ever see a 1WR set and it's not 1st and goal at the 2-yard line or less I will scream and not in a good way.

That's some Cam Cameron stuff. I'll be having PTSD flashbacks.

To answer your question, I wouldn't hate that formation but I dislike extremely predictable formations. With that line-up, even Ray Charles would know it's a run.

[CARavensFan]

If I ever see a 1WR set and it's not 1st and goal at the 2-yard line or less I will scream and not in a good way.

That's some Cam Cameron stuff. I'll be having PTSD flashbacks.

 

Well as I said the play I propsed would be a short-yardage play, the beauty of the flexibilty the guys have have give us is that we could start in a "heavy" package and then motion into something more spread to get mismatches, which would definitely NOT be a Cam Cameron thing. lol

[GrimCoconut]

Well as I said the play I propsed would be a short-yardage play, the beauty of the flexibilty the guys have have give us is that we could start in a "heavy" package and then motion into something more spread to get mismatches, which would definitely NOT be a Cam Cameron thing. lol

Nah, I hear you. I edited my post to have more thoughts.

If it's short yardage it's fine but I dislike very predictable formations. Who do you propose at those positions?

I would do a two wide receiver set. Have Streeter and Doss as wide outs. They're both the best run blocking wide receiverswe have. Streeter's size helps with short yardage as well since he can catch them.

Put Furstenburg at TE with Piece at RB and Leach as FB. You can put Leach at RB with Juszczyk at HB. Lol. Leach can pound the ball.

[MTRavensFan]

In my (real) dream last night, Tandon Doss fumbles a catch, the ball is bouncing all over like crazy, and Jacoby Jones is the only one sure-handed enough to come up with it.

More like a nightmare  :)

[CARavensFan]

If I ever see a 1WR set and it's not 1st and goal at the 2-yard line or less I will scream and not in a good way.

That's some Cam Cameron stuff. I'll be having PTSD flashbacks.

To answer your question, I wouldn't hate that formation but I dislike extremely predictable formations. With that line-up, even Ray Charles would know it's a run.

 

That's actually part of the idea, if they line up in this formation then the opposing DC has to put in his heavy, run-stuffing lineup; if he doesn't Flacco just does the run play and we bulldoze over them.

 

If he does put in a run-stuffing lineup (multiple D-Linemen, fewer CB and "coverage" LBs) then we adible into either a Play-Action or motion guys out wide (which guys is below ;) ).

 

Nah, I hear you. I edited my post to have more thoughts.

If it's short yardage it's fine but I dislike very predictable formations. Who do you propose at those positions?

I would do a two wide receiver set. Have Streeter and Doss as wide outs. They're both the best run blocking wide receiverswe have. Streeter's size helps with short yardage as well since he can catch them.

Put Furstenburg at TE with Piece at RB and Leach as FB. You can put Leach at RB with Juszczyk at HB. Lol. Leach can pound the ball.

 

In the formation I have posted above, Pitta would be the TE on the line, with Leach and Juice as the two FBs and then Rice as the RB. IMHO this gives us some crazy flexibility because Juice and Rice can motion out to play out side or they can just run a normal run play, but then we have Leach AND Juice blocking to open holes for Rice.

 

I would have no issue having two WRs instead of the TE on the line either, have Torrey on one side and Streeter on the other (gives Joe more jump ball options).

 

I agree with you about not having formations be predictable, that makes it too easy for oppossing DC to shut you down. The idea of this formation would be to give them a choice, bet we are running and set up to stop us, then we motion into a pass/PA play, or bet we are bluffing and put in a more flexible defense and then we just stick with the run and run over them. The formation is all about forcing the DC to pick how he wants to play the formation and then we take what he gives us.

[The Raven]

Actually, we could work with that formation. I'm okay with obvious running formations.

 

Firstly, if it's executed well, it doesn't matter if the D knows it's a run. See San Francisco for this point.

 

Secondly, the D could come out with run stopping personnel, and Joe could audible and switch to a formation with Pitta and a WR out wide, with Juice and/or Rice in the slot.

 

Rice, Pitta, and Juice give us a lot of flexibility. We could easily come out in a formation like this, audible out of it, and switch to a spread formation. 

[flynismo]

                  0 0 X 0 0 TE

WR                 QB                 WR

 

                 HB       HB

 

With Rice, Pierce and Pitta all on the field, and Torrey and JJ lined up wide, we can keep the D guessing; the wouldn't know if it were a run or pass, or if it were a run who was running the ball.

If they sell out on the run, we'd have a one on one matchup somewhere downfield with either Torrey or JJ, and Pitta across the middle.

If they guess pass, we should be able to get an easy 3 - 5 yards by giving it to one of the HB, depending on how the D is lined up

 

Flacco would have the luxury of being able to audible at the line, and nobody would even necessarily have to shift, and the defense would be none the wiser

[Fred Sanford]

The Steelers sign Tom Brady at running back, bring Hines Ward out of retirement, sign Joe Namath at tight end, Jeffrey Maier at Center, resurrect Robert Irsay and put him at left guard, Joey Porter at right guard, put Lamarr Woodley at right tackle, Jack Kent Cooke at fullback, Paul Tagliabue at left tackle, Mike Krzyzewski at wide receiver, John Elway at wide receiver.

Ray Lewis unretires for one play, picks off Roethlisberger, proceeds to truck and stiff arm Steelers' offense into the hospital, pitches to Joe Flacco who pimp slaps a "Flacco can't win the Super Bowl!" shouting Lamarr Woodley into the goalpoast, completing a 1000 point comeback as time expires.  Inspired by the play, Gino Gradkowski cures cancer, Sam Koch ends war, Morgan Cox develops faster-than-light travel, and Deonte Thompson discovers bionic implants in Terry Bradshaw and Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers are stripped of titles, invalidating the "6 rings" buffoonery for all time. 

[RavensAllTheWay]

                  O   O   X   O   O       WR  TE

                            QB                     WR

                    RB            RB

 

Rice is on the left, Pierce on the right.  Both run wheel routes to their respective sides.  If there's a blitz off the edge, they can chip them and get open right away for a quick completion and possibly good YAC.  

 

Pitta runs a shallow drag across the middle.  Torrey is the WR on the left, and he runs a deep post.  Doss is the WR behind both of them.  He runs a comeback/hook route.  

 

If there's no blitz for Rice or Pierce to pick up, there will be enough time for Pierce to run right past Doss, and enter the space cleared by Torrey's deep post.  If they account for that, Doss will be open underneath.  If Doss' defender stays with him, Pierce could be open deep down the right.  If they account for both of them, Torrey will likely have one-on-one, and with his speed, could certainly win that matchup.  Bunch formations make it difficult for CBs to jam at the line, which Torrey (and Q for that matter) have struggled with more often than not, so Torrey should have no problem getting a free release off the line.

 

Rice is likely to have single coverage on the other side, probably against a LB.  That's a mismatch in our favor.  If all else fails, Pitta is underneath.  If the defense shows blitz up the middle, Flacco can audible Pierce to pick it up.

[Ozzsome]

O O X O O WR TE
QB WR
RB RB

Rice is on the left, Pierce on the right. Both run wheel routes to their respective sides. If there's a blitz off the edge, they can chip them and get open right away for a quick completion and possibly good YAC.

Pitta runs a shallow drag across the middle. Torrey is the WR on the left, and he runs a deep post. Doss is the WR behind both of them. He runs a comeback/hook route.

If there's no blitz for Rice or Pierce to pick up, there will be enough time for Pierce to run right past Doss, and enter the space cleared by Torrey's deep post. If they account for that, Doss will be open underneath. If Doss' defender stays with him, Pierce could be open deep down the right. If they account for both of them, Torrey will likely have one-on-one, and with his speed, could certainly win that matchup. Bunch formations make it difficult for CBs to jam at the line, which Torrey (and Q for that matter) have struggled with more often than not, so Torrey should have no problem getting a free release off the line.

Rice is likely to have single coverage on the other side, probably against a LB. That's a mismatch in our favor. If all else fails, Pitta is underneath. If the defense shows blitz up the middle, Flacco can audible Pierce to pick it up.

Good idea, but Torrey wouldn't be allowed to run a route as he's covered up by Pitta and our LT could run a route, which would be funny though

[Yatagarasu]

Nickel Rush Package (Rush 5):

 

Dumervil - McPhee - Ngata - Upshaw - Suggs

 

Brown --------- Elam 

 

Webb ------------ Huff ----------------------------------------Graham --------Smith

[CARavensFan]

Nickel Rush Package (Rush 5):

 

Dumervil - McPhee - Ngata - Upshaw - Suggs

 

Brown --------- Elam 

 

Webb ------------ Huff ----------------------------------------Graham --------Smith

 

That's just flat nasty lookin'... I like it :D

[CARavensFan]

Good idea, but Torrey wouldn't be allowed to run a route as he's covered up by Pitta and our LT could run a route, which would be funny though

 

Well he did say that it would be your typical bunch formation, which they use all the time in the NFL, so just because you can't type out the positions correctly doesn't mean the idea isn't good.

[Ozzsome]

Well he did say that it would be your typical bunch formation, which they use all the time in the NFL, so just because you can't type out the positions correctly doesn't mean the idea isn't good.

Well then he would only have 6 players on the line of scrimmage which would result in an illegal formation penalty
Dont get me wrong I like the play he presented but it is just not working

[SecretAgentMan]

Ravens are in the shotgun....
They do a quick draw to Rice. Rice then runs ten yards to the left instead of forward, and then he throws it back to Flacco. Not having passed the LOS, Flacco is still allowed to pass the ball. Flacco passes it to Torrey Smith... Torrey Smith(who appears to have his dreads still)gets his dreads pulled by Troy P. Then a wig appears and Polomalu just sits there. Smith then gets tackled by Ryan Clark but laterals it to Jacoby, who then laterals it back to pitta.... For an easy TD

[1/28/01]

The Steelers sign Tom Brady at running back, bring Hines Ward out of retirement, sign Joe Namath at tight end, Jeffrey Maier at Center, resurrect Robert Irsay and put him at left guard, Joey Porter at right guard, put Lamarr Woodley at right tackle, Jack Kent Cooke at fullback, Paul Tagliabue at left tackle, Mike Krzyzewski at wide receiver, John Elway at wide receiver.
Ray Lewis unretires for one play, picks off Roethlisberger, proceeds to truck and stiff arm Steelers' offense into the hospital, pitches to Joe Flacco who pimp slaps a "Flacco can't win the Super Bowl!" shouting Lamarr Woodley into the goalpoast, completing a 1000 point comeback as time expires. Inspired by the play, Gino Gradkowski cures cancer, Sam Koch ends war, Morgan Cox develops faster-than-light travel, and Deonte Thompson discovers bionic implants in Terry Bradshaw and Ben Roethlisberger, Steelers are stripped of titles, invalidating the "6 rings" buffoonery for all time.

Simply amazing! And I could see it...

[Guest Mr. Nobody]

Simply amazing! And I could see dream it...

 

making it more appropriate

[EricH]

Don't know about formations.
But my favorite play will be Flacco to Torrey who will torch Ed's missed shoulder block for the game winning TD when we play the Texans at home.
That is a play that will light up the stadium! :)

[RavensAllTheWay]

I'm really curious as to how we're going to use Juice.

[CARavensFan]

I'm really curious as to how we're going to use Juice.

 

Yeah he was the guy that got me brainstorming these plays, the flexibility that he brings allows us to change formations and "looks" we give defenses.

 

The NFL has become more about substitutions and different packages of players so if you can run drastically different types of plays while having the same personel on the field it makes you more unpredictable and therefore that much harder to stop on offense.