Who are the top 5 best (and/or) worst Free Agents we've had?

[ravensfan2430]

I'll put my list down later... I'm at work.. I'm trying to stay professional here.

[JoeyFlex5]

best is derrick mason, easily.
after that shannon sharpe, michael mccrary, the goose, rod woodson, corey redding, bryant mckinnie, matt birk, vonta leach, and i cant really think of any more, and some of these may have been trades but im pretty sure theyre fa signings.

worst id say would be frank walker, quite possibly the worst player thats ever stepped into our secondary lol. foxworth was a massive bust, even when he was healthy he wasnt playing anywhere near what his contract asked for. stall worth and housh, and i cant think of many more

[T-ray]

Best: Frank Walker, Dominique Foxworth, Housh

 

Worst: Mason, Sharpe, and Goose

 

(stole this list from Brandon BTW... sorry Brandon! :bitenails:  )

 

.... LOL

[Alexir]

Best:

Shannon
Mason
Leach
Dumervil
Woodson

[berad]

Best:

Derrick Mason

Kelly Gregg

Michael McCrary

Vonta Leach

Shannon Sharpe

 

Can we count Stover? He was drafted by the Giants then signed by the Browns. If so, he's up there. 

 

Worst:

Elvis Grbac

Mike Anderson

Domonique Foxworth

Frank Walker

Corey Ivy

 

Mike Anderson really sucked for us.

[T-ray]

Best:

Derrick Mason

Kelly Gregg

Michael McCrary

Vonta Leach

Shannon Sharpe

 

Can we count Stover? He was drafted by the Giants then signed by the Browns. If so, he's up there. 

 

Worst:

Elvis Grbac

Mike Anderson

Domonique Foxworth

Frank Walker

Corey Ivy

 

Mike Anderson really sucked for us.

 

On the Anderson part, you've also gotta think though, he had at least 2 factors working against him. Number one, he was third string behind Jamal Lewis/Musa Smith. Even so, he managed 4.7 yards per carry, which isn't anything spectacular maybe, but isn't terrible either. Solid average per carry numbers. And number 2, when we brought him here, he was 33 years old and played with us until he was 35. Thats way beyond a runningback's prime years, even if he did come into the league late.

[JEEPercreepermd]

Worst:
Billy Cundiff
Billy Cundiff
Billy Cundiff
Billy Cundiff
Billy Cundiff

[berad]

On the Anderson part, you've also gotta think though, he had at least 2 factors working against him. Number one, he was third string behind Jamal Lewis/Musa Smith. Even so, he managed 4.7 yards per carry, which isn't anything spectacular maybe, but isn't terrible either. Solid average per carry numbers. And number 2, when we brought him here, he was 33 years old and played with us until he was 35. Thats way beyond a runningback's prime years, even if he did come into the league late.

 

No, terrible. I don't see how being buried behind an ineffective Lewis or Smith makes his time here any better. Our RBs stunk, Anderson was brought in to bolster them but didn't do much of anything.

 

$2M/year for 48 touches in 2006... In 2007 he had only 19 touches, and fumbled (and turnover) twice. Was cut before 2008 and the NFL suspended him a year for substance abuse. That was the last we heard of Mike Anderson. He was a scrub.

[Gordo52]

Jacoby Jones,Corey Graham

[T-ray]

No, terrible. I don't see how being buried behind an ineffective Lewis or Smith makes his time here any better. Our RBs stunk, Anderson was brought in to bolster them but didn't do much of anything.
 
$2M/year for 48 touches in 2006... In 2007 he had only 19 touches, and fumbled (and turnover) twice. Was cut before 2008 and the NFL suspended him a year for substance abuse. That was the last we heard of Mike Anderson. He was a scrub.

Dude, he was 34. 34. Who in the NFL has ever put up good numbers as a runningback at 34??? Heck, Barry Sanders, considered by many as the best Rb of all time, retired before he even reached 33. Go ahead. Try naming one Rb who played even decently at 34. I'm waiting.

[The Raven]

Dude, he was 34. 34. Who in the NFL has ever put up good numbers as a runningback at 34??? Heck, Barry Sanders, considered by many as the best Rb of all time, retired before he even reached 33. Go ahead. Try naming one Rb who played even decently at 34. I'm waiting.

 

That doesn't change the fact that he sucked for us.

 

Berad wasn't claiming anything about age. All he said was that he didn't get a lot of carries, and didn't do much with them. 2 million for that performance is a bad FA signing and you're a fool if you don't think so. Bad signing, regardless of age. Hard concept to grasp?

[T-ray]

That doesn't change the fact that he sucked for us.
 
Berad wasn't claiming anything about age. All he said was that he didn't get a lot of carries, and didn't do much with them. 2 million for that performance is a bad FA signing and you're a fool if you don't think so. Bad signing, regardless of age. Hard concept to grasp?

How the HECK is a 34 year old runningback supposed to be good with only 20 carries???? You should know by now that running takes rhythm... how is a back that old supposed to get into any kind of flow if he only gets 20 carries all year?? And I'm not sure, but I see at least 2 possible instances of personal attacks in this post.

[The Raven]

How the HECK is a 34 year old runningback supposed to be good with only 20 carries???? You should know by now that running takes rhythm... how is a back that old supposed to get into any kind of flow if he only gets 20 carries all year?? And I'm not sure, but I see at least 2 possible instances of personal attacks in this post.

 

How the HECK does that make it not bad signing? 2 million for a third string RB that got 20 carries is a JOKE. Bad signing!!!

 

Also, you said he had a (pretty solid) 4.7 YPC average, so he obviously had the rhythm you claim he didn't have.

[T-ray]

How the HECK does that make it not bad signing? 2 million for a third string RB that got 20 carries is a JOKE. Bad signing!!!

Sure, if you think that he was intended to be a starter, then it was a horrible signing. But in my opinion, he was just brought in for depth at that point in his career.

[The Raven]

Sure, if you think that he was intended to be a starter, then it was a horrible signing. But in my opinion, he was just brought in for depth at that point in his career.

 

So 2 million for an over the hill, 33 year old, backup RB isn't a bad signing?

[T-ray]

Good God what is everyone's problem today... its Friday for crying out loud.

[T-ray]

So 2 million for an over the hill, 33 year old, backup RB isn't a bad signing?

No, he performed his duties that he was brought in to fulfill. He provided depth. At that point in his career, that's all that should be expected of him.

[The Raven]

No, he performed his duties that he was brought in to fulfill. He provided depth. At that point in his career, that's all that should be expected of him.

 

You are completely missing the point. Smh.

[T-ray]

You are completely missing the point. Smh.

And you are completely ridiculous. If you aren't given a warning of some sort for the personal attacks you threw my way, then I'll call that complete bias.

[The Raven]

And you are completely ridiculous. If you aren't given a warning of some sort for the personal attacks you threw my way, then I'll call that complete bias.

 

 

Yes, Anderson had a good career. But, his numbers did not warrant the salary. Therefore, bad signing!!! It's ridiculously simple!!!

[GrimCoconut]

And you are completely ridiculous. If you aren't given a warning of some sort for the personal attacks you threw my way, then I'll call that complete bias.

This argument is getting a bit out of hand.

[Moderator 3]

This argument is getting a bit out of hand.

It certainly is. Holy Moly, people. Chill out and enjoy the upcoming weekend. There's no need to get all hot under the collar over this stuff.

[berad]

Dude, he was 34. 34. Who in the NFL has ever put up good numbers as a runningback at 34??? Heck, Barry Sanders, considered by many as the best Rb of all time, retired before he even reached 33. Go ahead. Try naming one Rb who played even decently at 34. I'm waiting.

 

Doesn't matter what his age was. He signed a 4-year, $8M deal and performed like a scrub.

 

I made no comment on his age nor does it skew my perception. He was getting paid $2M a year and didn't live up to it, that's the basis of any bad signing. 

 

To the question about decent RBs after 34 - Emmit Smith, Marcus Allen, and our own Ricky Williams. Plus all those players played significantly more years than Anderson - his career was only 7 years long.

[Ravenseconbeast]

I miss Gregg Kelly.

 

Never knew how valuable his signing was until our run-d fell apart after we split ways from him.  

 

We need that run d from 2007 

[1/28/01]

LEE EVANS!!!!!!!

Oh yeah, Billy Finkle as well!

[Ravenseconbeast]

I say in terms of longevity and value, Gregg kelly tops all FA.   He was basically a walk in P.S. guy that grew up to become a full season starter for us for over a decade.   

 

Never knew how valuable his signing was until our run-d fell apart after we split ways from him.  

 

His been with us since 2001-2010 and he was an integral piece that held the chains for us.

 

Hoping Brandon Williams can be that NT for us soon.

[GrimCoconut]

Hmmm...the best.

I'd have to say:
1. Mason
2. Sharpe
3. Woodson
4. Adams
5. McCrary

[Moderator 3]

Worst - Harper LaBel. Single-handly cost us games.

Was Jason Brookins also a FA? He nearly got Grbac decapitated multiple times.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Worst: Dominique Foxworth

 

Spent ton of money and commitment on this guy and was either 1) always injured 2) was horrendous when on field

 

 

On personal account, he was the winner.   He didn't had to do anything, rarely worked, and received ton of money while injured.   

 

I would say Frank Walker(who was equally bad) might top Dominique  but at least that guy worked hard and stayed on field all season.   He contributed with 1/7th of what Dominique was getting paid.

[GrimCoconut]

Worst: Dominique Foxworth

Spent ton of money and commitment on this guy and was either 1) always injured 2) was horrendous when on field


On personal account, he was the winner. He didn't had to do anything, rarely worked, and received ton of money while injured.

I would say Frank Walker(who was equally bad) might top Dominique but at least that guy worked hard and stayed on field all season. He contributed with 1/7th of what Dominique was getting paid.

FWIW I agree with you here 100%. His contract, play, and injuries set us back in some ways. He's one of our worst. If not the worst. It's how much money we gave him. That's what makes his signing so bad.