Fantasy Football 2013: Who do you hope to get?

[Sizzlebshu]

Deandre Hopkins recently caught my attention as a target but I know someone else who is also going for him. I got last pick in the 10th, first in the 11th (10 person non ppr) and I was thinking he would be worth one of those selections. Too early? I've seen him go as late at 15th round.

too early. There are much better options (including sleepers) in those rounds. That and the fact the texans runs the ball more than any other team (including the Niners) will limit his opportunities

[Sizzlebshu]

How high would you draft Megatron?

In ppr, I'd honestly consider him at #1 overall. Roddy White Brandon Marshall etc... should all fall back to you as well as a combo of sproles and or reggie bush. Megatron is probably the safest pick in ppr and perhaps the highest scoring option. 

 

Outside of ppr, it depends on the format of your league, but in standard leagues, I will usually let someone else take him. 

[PuRock]

too early. There are much better options (including sleepers) in those rounds. That and the fact the texans runs the ball more than any other team (including the Niners) will limit his opportunities

 

So what you're saying is that you want DeAndre.  I know your game.  :D

[Sizzlebshu]

So what you're saying is that you want DeAndre.  I know your game.  :D

No I wanted Damontre Moore, but noooooooooooooooooo Ozzie had to have Arthur Brown. 

[Gordo52]

How do you guys feel about Fitz this year? In my 4 keeper, QB league, he's the lead candidate to be my 4th keeper.

Rodgers
RG3
Martin
Fitz

The draft is coming up and I originally planned on keeping Cutler and putting hope in him.It's just too risky I feel.

We saw what Luck did with Wayne in Bruce Arians offense. Fitz has been dealing with horrible QB's since Warner retired. Palmer had perhaps the quietest 4000 yard season ever. Not many like him, but I do. The Cards have an improved O-line, better running game and should still be passing a lot. Fitzgerald is still one of the great WR's in the game, and he finally has a QB who can feed him. Fitz in 2013 is more talented then Wayne was last year...Floyd should further develop and take away some attention from him. I think he could have a top 6 year. The beginning of his schedule is very good, so he could be a good early trade option.


Other notable candidates are
Cutler
Roethlisburger
Forte
Gronkowski
Cobb

.... It's a 7 team league with buddies of mine. I worked the waiver wire before the playoffs last season in case some of you are wondering why I'm so stacked. ;)

[Sizzlebshu]

Did a standard draft for fun 10 teams. 

 

1.08 - Calvin Johnson 

2.03 - Matt Forte

3.08 - Roddy White

4.03 - Darren Sproles

5.08 - Hakeem Nicks

6.03 - Tom Brady

7.08 - Chris Ivory

8.03 - DeAngelo Williams

9.08 - Mark Ingram

10.03 - MIles Austin

11.08 - J-Stew

12.03 - Jermichael Finley

13.08 - Baltimore

14.03 - Denarious Moore

15.08 - Shonn Greene

16.03 - Malcolm Floyd

I feel like I ended up with a very solid team. 

[flaccopoe]

What do you guys feel about Fitz this year? In my 4 keeper, QB league he's the lead candidate to be kept. 

 

Rodgers

RG3

Martin

Fitz

 

The draft is coming up and I originally planned on keeping Cutler and putting hope in him.It's just too risky I feel.

 

We saw what Luck did with Wayne in Bruce Arians offense. Fitz has been dealing with horrible QB's since Warner retired. Palmer had perhaps the quietest 4000 yard season ever. Not many like him, but I do. The Cards have an improved O-line, better running game and should still be passing a lot. Fitzgerald is still one of the great WR's in the game, and he finally has a QB who can feed him. Fitz in 2013 is more talented then Wayne was last year...Floyd should further develop and take away some attention from him. I think he could have a top 6 year. The beginning of his schedule is very good, so he could be a good early trade option.

 

 

Other notable candidates are

Cutler

Roethlisburger

Forte

Gronkowski

Cobb

 

I worked the waiver wire before the playoffs started. ;)

.... It's a 7 team league with buddies of mine in case some of you are wondering why I'm so stacked. ;)

 

You can inly keep player before your season starts?  I'd go with Rodgers.  He's been a Top 2 QB for years and the QB position will become more scarce with the aging of Brady and Rothliesberger.  With RBs, you always have to worry about injuries and Martin doesn't play for the most consistent of offenses.  If you value WRs over QBs, then go with Fitzgerald.  Just keep in mind the depth at WR is much larger than the depth at QB.

[Gordo52]

You can inly keep player before your season starts? I'd go with Rodgers. He's been a Top 2 QB for years and the QB position will become more scarce with the aging of Brady and Rothliesberger. With RBs, you always have to worry about injuries and Martin doesn't play for the most consistent of offenses. If you value WRs over QBs, then go with Fitzgerald. Just keep in mind the depth at WR is much larger than the depth at QB.

Rodgers, Martin and RG are no brainers. We have a deadline where in a week we drop rosters, in 2 weeks the draft.

....You know what...... Just tell me how you feel about fitz. Lol

[flaccopoe]

Rodgers, Martin and RG are no brainers. We have a deadline where in a week we drop rosters, in 2 weeks the draft.

....You know what...... Just tell me how you feel about fitz. Lol

 

I think LF and Palmer could have a very productive relationship.  However, I'd be a little skeptical about LF, seeing as he's been languishing under horrible QBs for a couple years now.  Palmer's reached his peak, so he can only go down, imo.  I'm also worried about the O-line.  It was utter garbage last year and constantly endangered its QBs and RBs.

 

How many players from last season do you get to keep?

[The Oakland Cathedral]

If you have him as #2, and Rodgers went #1, isn't AP your #1? Maybe that's why they jumped on you.

Yes AP is my #1 but I wanted to mix it up a bit, especially since they are very close in my book for a ppr league. But no one even mentioned AP when they jumped on me... I would have understood that..

[gabefergy]

How do you guys feel about Fitz this year? In my 4 keeper, QB league, he's the lead candidate to be my 4th keeper.

Rodgers
RG3
Martin
Fitz

The draft is coming up and I originally planned on keeping Cutler and putting hope in him.It's just too risky I feel.

We saw what Luck did with Wayne in Bruce Arians offense. Fitz has been dealing with horrible QB's since Warner retired. Palmer had perhaps the quietest 4000 yard season ever. Not many like him, but I do. The Cards have an improved O-line, better running game and should still be passing a lot. Fitzgerald is still one of the great WR's in the game, and he finally has a QB who can feed him. Fitz in 2013 is more talented then Wayne was last year...Floyd should further develop and take away some attention from him. I think he could have a top 6 year. The beginning of his schedule is very good, so he could be a good early trade option.


Other notable candidates are
Cutler
Roethlisburger
Forte
Gronkowski
Cobb

.... It's a 7 team league with buddies of mine. I worked the waiver wire before the playoffs last season in case some of you are wondering why I'm so stacked. ;)

By QB league do you mean 2QB? OR is the scoring different?

 

If it's a 2 QB league I might want RG3, but I would probably keep Gronk over him either way. Gronk could be a huge difference maker down the stretch. You incur some risk with him, but in a shallow league I want to have as many studs as possible. The advantage he will give you at TE is greater than RG3 at QB.

 

I would keep Fitz too. I think he will have a very good year.

[ravensdan]

Rodgers, Martin and RG are no brainers. We have a deadline where in a week we drop rosters, in 2 weeks the draft.

....You know what...... Just tell me how you feel about fitz. Lol

I love fitz to Finnish at least top 5. He's as individually talented as any in the game. The best Palmer has ever had to play with. They will throw early and often. The overall team is much better than Oakland. Roberts and Floyd can only improve upon last years performance. Palmer has always been able to throw for alot of yards but has been limited o ly by his mind boggling turnovers but that won't affect Larry's numbers.

[gabefergy]

Did a standard draft for fun 10 teams. 

 

1.08 - Calvin Johnson 

2.03 - Matt Forte

3.08 - Roddy White

4.03 - Darren Sproles

5.08 - Hakeem Nicks

6.03 - Tom Brady

7.08 - Chris Ivory

8.03 - DeAngelo Williams

9.08 - Mark Ingram

10.03 - MIles Austin

11.08 - J-Stew

12.03 - Jermichael Finley

13.08 - Baltimore

14.03 - Denarious Moore

15.08 - Shonn Greene

16.03 - Malcolm Floyd

I feel like I ended up with a very solid team. 

This is PPR or no? I dont think your RB situation is very good, no #1 RB in a 10 team league will hurt you. Also you are weak at TE. 

 

Personally, there is no format that I could see the value in Megatron #1 overall. WR is deep enough that you can get a very good #1 WR in the 3rd round. At position 7-8, that is where I would draft Megatron, maybe a couple spots earlier in a PPR, but I think I would go after a stud RB instead. I just highly doubt Johnson comes anywhere close to what he did last year, at least in catches + yards. His TD total will probably increase, but I think his stat line will close to 100 Rec, 1600 yds, 10 TDs. Obviously a great season, but I can see several WRs who put up similar numbers.

[flaccopoe]

This is PPR or no? I dont think your RB situation is very good, no #1 RB in a 10 team league will hurt you. Also you are weak at TE. 

 

Personally, there is no format that I could see the value in Megatron #1 overall. WR is deep enough that you can get a very good #1 WR in the 3rd round. At position 7-8, that is where I would draft Megatron, maybe a couple spots earlier in a PPR, but I think I would go after a stud RB instead. I just highly doubt Johnson comes anywhere close to what he did last year, at least in catches + yards. His TD total will probably increase, but I think his stat line will close to 100 Rec, 1600 yds, 10 TDs. Obviously a great season, but I can see several WRs who put up similar numbers.

 

What do you mean, Forte is great and he has both of NO's main RBs, Sproles and Ingram.  Finley should do well too, with Jennings gone and hopefully an improved O-line.

[gabefergy]

What do you mean, Forte is great and he has both of NO's main RBs, Sproles and Ingram.  Finley should do well too, with Jennings gone and hopefully an improved O-line.

Forte is far from great. He is a good #2, but I dont see him as a #1 back. He doesnt score TDs. Sproles and Ingram are two different players, if you combined them then you have something but Ingram is a back-up for fantasy purposes and Sproles is a Flex or #2 at best. In a PPR Sproles has a lot more value, but he is still only a high end #2.

 

Finley just isnt very good. He could have a big year, but I find it unlikely especially now that their LT is out, He will have to block more and he is just too inconsistent in general.

[flaccopoe]

Forte is far from great. He is a good #2, but I dont see him as a #1 back. He doesnt score TDs. Sproles and Ingram are two different players, if you combined them then you have something but Ingram is a back-up for fantasy purposes and Sproles is a Flex or #2 at best. In a PPR Sproles has a lot more value, but he is still only a high end #2.

 

Finley just isnt very good. He could have a big year, but I find it unlikely especially now that their LT is out, He will have to block more and he is just too inconsistent in general.

 

GB lost their LT for the year?  Ouch.  Anyway, Forte has been fantasy gold for me the past couple seasons and should improve under Trestman.

[Gordo52]

By QB league do you mean 2QB? OR is the scoring different?

If it's a 2 QB league I might want RG3, but I would probably keep Gronk over him either way. Gronk could be a huge difference maker down the stretch. You incur some risk with him, but in a shallow league I want to have as many studs as possible. The advantage he will give you at TE is greater than RG3 at QB.

I would keep Fitz too. I think he will have a very good year.

It's a QB driven league where they score the most points. There's a slot option where you can play a QB/RB/WR/TE/K but people hardly ever not start a QB.

I've kept Gronk the last two years and thought about doing it again, but with his surgeries and all, and Graham not being kept, I think I have a chance to land one of them in the first 2 rounds. Plus it's not clear yet whether it not Gronk will start on the PUP.

Rg3 is being kept no matter what. I was thinking of keeping Big Ben or Cutler for insurance with RG3's risk, but I don't wanna keep Ben and Cutler might be too risky. Every year there's only about 3-4 good QB's to choose from and since I'm always picking late I can never get one.

The last two years of tried the philosophy of having a great QB - TE combo because I really thought that was money. But I did good with waiver wire pick ups when Gronk was out last year. If I can't get Gronk or Graham in round 2, I'll settle with Rudolph, Myers, Witten or Gonzalez at round 4. (Traded my 3rd). I think at least 2 would be there.

Here's the scoring if you're curious.



It's not like the traditional way of FF, but it's how I started and I love it.

[Gordo52]

I hate Finley. I gave up on him last year, but before that I would always draft him expecting great things from him.

He's one of my most disappointing players that I've dealt with over the years.

[Gordo52]

Something I love though is right before the playoffs started last year and the waiver wire was locked, I picked up Fitzgerald & Cutler hoping their value would elevate to keeper status in the offseason. Up until yesterday I thought I would be keeping Cutler until I researched Larry some more.

[gabefergy]

It's a QB driven league where they score the most points. There's a slot option where you can play a QB/RB/WR/TE/K but people hardly ever not start a QB.

I've kept Gronk the last two years and thought about doing it again, but with his surgeries and all, and Graham not being kept, I think I have a chance to land one of them in the first 2 rounds. Plus it's not clear yet whether it not Gronk will start on the PUP.

Rg3 is being kept no matter what. I was thinking of keeping Big Ben or Cutler for insurance with RG3's risk, but I don't wanna keep Ben and Cutler might be too risky. Every year there's only about 3-4 good QB's to choose from and since I'm always picking late I can never get one.

The last two years of tried the philosophy of having a great QB - TE combo because I really thought that was money. But I did good with waiver wire pick ups when Gronk was out last year. If I can't get Gronk or Graham in round 2, I'll settle with Rudolph, Myers, Witten or Gonzalez at round 4. (Traded my 3rd). I think at least 2 would be there.

Here's the scoring if you're curious.



It's not like the traditional way of FF, but it's how I started and I love it.

With those rules, RG3 is even less of a value. Passing TDs are given more value which means a guy like Matt Ryan, Tony Romo, or Matthew Stafford could easily end up scoring more points than RG3. He would probably be my 9th or 10th rated QB in that format. If I thought I could get one of those QBs there is no way I keep RG3. If you think you can get Graham than I wouldnt keep Gronk, but that is a bit of a risk. The drop-off after those 2 is significant IMO. 

[Sizzlebshu]

This is PPR or no? I dont think your RB situation is very good, no #1 RB in a 10 team league will hurt you. Also you are weak at TE. 

 

Personally, there is no format that I could see the value in Megatron #1 overall. WR is deep enough that you can get a very good #1 WR in the 3rd round. At position 7-8, that is where I would draft Megatron, maybe a couple spots earlier in a PPR, but I think I would go after a stud RB instead. I just highly doubt Johnson comes anywhere close to what he did last year, at least in catches + yards. His TD total will probably increase, but I think his stat line will close to 100 Rec, 1600 yds, 10 TDs. Obviously a great season, but I can see several WRs who put up similar numbers.

No this was just a mock for fun.  I took Megatron at 8th overall just to see what I would net. 

 

I think Megatron reverts but to his 2011 season ie 1600/16tds with a minimum of 90 catches. A lot of the lack of tds were bad luck (stopped at the 1 yd line more than anyone). Megatron is probably the most consistent bet in ppr in terms of scoring. 

[gabefergy]

GB lost their LT for the year?  Ouch.  Anyway, Forte has been fantasy gold for me the past couple seasons and should improve under Trestman.

I wouldnt call him fantasy gold. He is solid, but not a top 10 RB. He might improve under Trestman, but I think he could actually lose some value if they are spreading the ball around more. Trestman won't make him a better goalline back.

[flaccopoe]

I wouldnt call him fantasy gold. He is solid, but not a top 10 RB. He might improve under Trestman, but I think he could actually lose some value if they are spreading the ball around more. Trestman won't make him a better goalline back.

 

He's not Top 5, but who would you put ahead of him in slots 6-10?

[gabefergy]

No this was just a mock for fun.  I took Megatron at 8th overall just to see what I would net. 

 

I think Megatron reverts but to his 2011 season ie 1600/16tds with a minimum of 90 catches. A lot of the lack of tds were bad luck (stopped at the 1 yd line more than anyone). Megatron is probably the most consistent bet in ppr in terms of scoring. 

That's probably true that he is a consistent bet in PPR scoring, and he may very well lead the league. That doesnt mean he should go #1 though. The difference between him and the top 5 WR isnt that great and you can get a stud WR in the 2nd or even 3rd round. If you pass on a RB early it could come back to haunt you.

 

For instance if you take Megatron #1 and then come back and snag a couple of RBs say Frank Gore and MJD at picks 20 and 21 that's not bad, but I think I would rather have AD and then take Gore and say Julio Jones or Dez Bryant. Those are just random names I'm throwing out there, but I think that is a much stronger first 3 picks. The difference between AD and MJD is greater than the difference between Megatron and Julio.

[gabefergy]

He's not Top 5, but who would you put ahead of him in slots 6-10?

AD

Martin

Charles

Spiller

Lynch

Rice

Foster

McCoy

Richardson

Morris

[flaccopoe]

AD

Martin

Charles

Spiller

Lynch

Rice

Foster

McCoy

Richardson

Morris

 

I would put him ahead of McCoy because PHI is so chaotic right now.  I wouldn't be surprised is Morris had a sophomore slump, either.

[gabefergy]

I would put him ahead of McCoy because PHI is so chaotic right now.  I wouldn't be surprised is Morris had a sophomore slump, either.

I dont think Chicago is any less chaotic than PHI. Both have new coaches and new offenses. The difference is McCoy has a much better track record than Forte.

 

Morris could have a slump but from all I have heard he has improved, especially as a pass-catcher. He will be a workhorse for them.

[Gordo52]

With those rules, RG3 is even less of a value. Passing TDs are given more value which means a guy like Matt Ryan, Tony Romo, or Matthew Stafford could easily end up scoring more points than RG3. He would probably be my 9th or 10th rated QB in that format. If I thought I could get one of those QBs there is no way I keep RG3. If you think you can get Graham than I wouldnt keep Gronk, but that is a bit of a risk. The drop-off after those 2 is significant IMO.

Trust me man, Rodgers & RG3 are perhaps the best QB combo in my league. Someone has Brees & Luck whose probably better, but still. I can't get Ryan without trading Rodgers, and I like RG3 way better than Romo, also Stafford is being kept. But he finished better then both of those last season, and his running ability combined with his throwing is way more valuable to me. I'm a huge RG3 fan so I could be bias, but I really believe in his passing ability. I'm putting a lot of trust in Shanahan to play him right. Best available QB's I projected would be Schaub, Kaepernick, Cutler, Roethlisburger, Romo, . ..... I pick #5 and I would take RG3 over all of them, although I really like Schaub this year. RG would probably get drafted #1 or 2 if I didn't keep him.

[Gordo52]

McCoy > Forte without a second thought.

I'm not a big fan of Lynch this year. I think he'll be a top 10, but I really like his back up rookie Christine Michael. I think he handcuffs him in order to keep Lynch fresh. That could work good for him though, I also just have a gut feeling.

[gabefergy]

Trust me man, Rodgers & RG3 are perhaps the best QB combo in my league. Someone has Brees & Luck whose probably better, but still. I can't get Ryan without trading Rodgers, and I like RG3 way better than Romo, also Stafford is being kept. But he finished better then both of those last season, and his running ability combined with his throwing is way more valuable to me. I'm a huge RG3 fan so I could be bias, but I really believe in his passing ability. I'm putting a lot of trust in Shanahan to play him right. Best available QB's I projected would be Schaub, Kaepernick, Cutler, Roethlisburger, Romo, . ..... I pick #5 and I would take RG3 over all of them, although I really like Schaub this year. RG would probably get drafted #1 or 2 if I didn't keep him.

You really think RG3 will have 25+ passing TDs? I doubt it. He also probably wont throw for much more than 3,000 yards, Romo could easily put up 30-35 TDs and 4500 yards. Even though RG3 will get he rushing yards and TDs he wont get as many as last season. I know I'm not going to convince you otherwise, but I would rather have Romo. If you are certain you can draft Graham I would keep RG3 but that is the only way. Just my 2 cents.