Nfl's Most Overated Player

[MKdave]

Fox sports did an issue of top D-lines and NE patriots were at number 1.I'm not taking the article seriously as we were at seven! seven!

anyway they said about richard seymour, and I quote:'New England's Richard Seymour anchors one of the best defensive lines in football.' AND:'Richard Seymour is an extraordinary football player,'.

How does he anchor that line, he's probably the worst player on it! and I wouldn't say he's an extraordinary football player, there are ends faster than him, stronger than him, faster and stronger than him,faster, stronger and better tacklers than him, so why is he considered elite?

his sack and tackle counts are average. and he's only forced 3 fumbles in his career.Thats why I think he's the most overated player in the NFL.

I think shawne merriman is super overated, but that might just be because I dont like him.

[Tiz]

his sack and tackle counts are average. and he's only forced 3 fumbles in his career.Thats why I think he's the most overated player in the NFL.

I'd probably say his Sack and tackle counts are average because its a 34 scheme they run and he's asked to play in a manner that we, as Ravens fans, can appreciate from what Kelly Gregg does for us.

I think if we talk about overrated we should begin with ATL's CBs.

[MKdave]

that may be true,but Kelly Gregg does have a much better tackle count seymour, not as many sacks because he's a NT, and seymour's a DE.I know that doesnt make a whole lot of difference in a 3-4 but it's still counts for something

Which corners are you talking about? I would assume delangelo Hall, but after that I dont know their corners.

[Tiz]

that may be true,but Kelly Gregg does has a much better tackle count seymour, not as many sacks because he's a NT, and seymour's a DE.I know that doesnt make a whole lot of difference in a 3-4 but it's still counts for something

Which corners are you talking about? I would assume delangelo Hall, but after that I dont know their corners.

Yeah I was referring to pro bowl corner Deangelo Hall.

[ravenmaniac1223]

Brian Urlacher is sooo overrated. If you run right at him he can tackle you, but he can not cover sideline to sideline like I am used to seeing.

[DaBills]

Brian Urlacher is sooo overrated. If you run right at him he can tackle you, but he can not cover sideline to sideline like I am used to seeing.

I agree, Urlacher has been great. But he is definitely overrated, he hasn't played nearly as good as what he is been praised for. Zach Thomas is another one I'd put on this list..

[JHarris]

Brian Urlacher is sooo overrated. If you run right at him he can tackle you, but he can not cover sideline to sideline like I am used to seeing.

He still has some speed but very over-rated in my opinion. It seems the Bear's defense is designed to "highlight" the middle linebacker position. Without his very good supporting cast he's no more then average.

[PuppyPuncher]

The Bear's defense in general. I have a friend who is a Bear's fan. I would always ask him where the Bears were better on defense than the Ravens. He would tell me that the LBs were better because of Urlacher & Briggs. IMO, the Bears excelled last year at beating up on geriatric quarterbacks.

[willis mcgahee run u over]

Brian Urlacher is sooo overrated. If you run right at him he can tackle you, but he can not cover sideline to sideline like I am used to seeing.

wow....thats incredibly wrong.....your thinking of our own ray lewis

lewis never will get trucked at the goal-line but isnt so great of an angle tackler or in coverage

urlacher i can picture getting trucked at the goal-line by some bruiser but will rarely maybe even never miss a tackle at an angle and is probably the best MLB EVER in coverage

[willis mcgahee run u over]

i just had to make that correction

but for the OP's thread

Shawn Alexander-he isnt actually that great of a goal-line bruiser...he got a ton of free walk-ins from the o-line....also not much of a workhorse...again o-line

Shawn Merriman-against the seahawks he was uneffective...shut down by an all-pro tackle...and its not the first time....also...STEROIDS! which makes his accomplishments meaningless in the first place

Lofa Tatupu-im glad he wracks up tackles but watching frank gore,LJ and Stephen Jackson truck him so much i just cant vote for him in my ballot

Steve Smith-hes been overrated his whole career...he needs delhomme...delhomme needs him too but still...both ineffective without eachother

Reggie Bush-he cant break tackles...yes hes been ok in preseason but running on buffalo and cincinatti there are a ton of free lanes...and last season he wasnt so great at all

Ben Roethlisberger-he wasnt that great...he was just on a great team...rings for QBs are overrated....2006 was not an off-year...more like a wake up call

Bryan Westbrooke-basically hes just a RB who has wide running lanes all the time and can catch a little bit

Tony Romo-4 good games and 5 garbage games is not a break out season...dumb a** cowboy analysts hyping him so much giving him the vote....makes me hate the cowboys

Terell Owens-he dropped 17 damn passes and still everything he does is monitored like crazy

Cato June-he was in the top 5 in tackles last year....but if missed tackles were a stat i bet he'd be number 1 in that category....and top 10 if it was done by percent

[Slick]

I'm gonna say that Champ Bailey is a little overrated, certainly not the MOST overrated, but hes up there. I say this because I hear many people these days saying hes better than Primetime Sanders. In some ways (like tackling ability) yes he is, but overall no.

lets see, as for other overrated players.. id go with a lot of names already mentioned...urlacher, dawkins, etc...

Roffleburger I called from the start, Pittsburg had a great team that year, but it wasn't because of their QB. And to this day I believe the Refs were paid off in that game, they GAVE a td to the steelers and TOOK one from the seahawks on two of many, MANY bad calls during that horrible SB game.

Owens isn't entirely overrated, while he does have a huge amount of drops, he does make up for it with his # of Tds. Even so he has no right to talk smack, that many drops is inexcusable.

[MKdave]

I'm gonna say that Champ Bailey is a little overrated, certainly not the MOST overrated, but hes up there. I say this because I hear many people these days saying hes better than Primetime Sanders. In some ways (like tackling ability) yes he is, but overall no.

Yeah, I definitely agree, i think he's suseptible to a big play too often and doesnt have the same spark on returns as pacman jones, C-Mac or Dre bly, (and he certainly cant touch sanders in that respect), despite having the necessary speed.

[PuppyPuncher]

The reason Terrel Owens dropped balls was because he had a ring finger that required surgery but played through it anyways.

[Gore-Fan89]

Shaun Alexander by a wide margin.

[JonM229]

I'm going with Adam Archuleta on this one. Sure, he's got a broken hand, but then why is he trying to arm tackle people?

[Raven07]

i would have to say Payton and Brady....people are making them out to be these "gods" of the sport and should be worshipped, when in actuality...they're human like everyone else here, they make mis-takes and make bad decisions, like every other player in the NFL, sure they are good players, dont get me wrong on that because thats just facts...but when Manning first came into the league, he was pretty bad....people must remember those days.....Tom isnt doing all that on his own....he has a O-Line that Blocks extremely well, he has more than his share of potent, play maker recievers....all he really does is fine a open guy and throw the ball up, whether the reciever catches the ball...thats not up to Tom....its up to the reciever...basically called "luck"

[JonM229]

Tom isnt doing all that on his own....he has a O-Line that Blocks extremely well, he has more than his share of potent, play maker recievers....all he really does is fine a open guy and throw the ball up, whether the reciever catches the ball...thats not up to Tom....its up to the reciever...basically called "luck"

I totally agree. I remember saying the same thing about Kurt Warner when he was with the Rams.

[MKdave]

I think Roy Williams should also be mentioned, having recieved yet another fine for his horse collar on buffalo running back Marshawn Lynch . I know alot of people are now aware that he'd be more effective in pass coverage if he sat on the fifty picking his nose, but most people still seem to think he's some amazing hitter and tackler, but his techniques in clearly lacking and he hits receivers while their catching the ball, or misses them completely.

I am Indescribably Glad that Dallas took Williams and not Reed.

[Raven07]

yea i agree, the Horse Collar Tackling as to stop...before someone gets seriously injured here...(career ending and likewise much worse injuries)......i mean yea i can understand a guy doing it 1 time....because he is trying to make a tackle for his team that could very well be game changing and what not....not doing the same tackle again then AGAIN!...its for sure getting way outta control, i mean there are certian restrictions the officials made for on the field conduct for a Reason...injury

[MKdave]

And also its a shame that on field officials are afraid to make the call. The horse collar I was refering to resulted in a 5-Yard facemask call,And in that game, that call could have made all the diffence.

It should have resulted in a suspension, not just a fine, because of his persistent disregard for the rules. Not only has he been fined for this 3 times in 2 years, but the rule was made because of several season ending injuries dished out by Williams' Horse collar tackle.( one of which was to terell owens)

[Raven07]

yea i know what play your talking about, when the flag was thrown i was under the initial impression that it was against Roy for Making yet ANOTHER horse collar tackle, i personally think that EVERYONE was on the same page and that everyone was thinking "penalty against Williams for such an obsurd tackle as that, that could very well put a person in a life threatening inury/career ending injury"....so when the call wasnt what everyone expected it to be (including the announcers) everyone was just (plain and simple) stunned

[Passepartout]

Terrell Owens as he can play but attitude sucks!

As well as Randy Moss for the same reason.

[MKdave]

Terrell Owens as he can play but attitude sucks!

As well as Randy Moss for the same reason.

That said, Randy Moss for a fourth round pick is looking like a steal, he's been imense this season.

[Raven07]

AND the fact that Randy Moss looks to Finally be Comfortable with a team lol...he's been noticably Quiet and Not making a fool of himself with controversial things like he was with the Raiders and what not (celebrations...voicing he wasnt at all happy there, voicing that he want getting the ball enough), he's calmed down considerably

[BrownsFan]

I'm sure most of you will agree on this one.. my pick is Joey Porter.

Runs his mouth endlessly and ALWAYS HAS run his mouth and never produces any results. He's a top flight scrub on the football field and perhaps one day he'll realize he's not really as good as he says. Nowhere even close IMO.

[thewarden86]

I'm sure most of you will agree on this one.. my pick is Joey Porter.

Runs his mouth endlessly and ALWAYS HAS run his mouth and never produces any results. He's a top flight scrub on the football field and perhaps one day he'll realize he's not really as good as he says. Nowhere even close IMO.

His present performance makes it difficult to argue for him, but he wasn't at all a scrub when he was a Steeler. I'll debate that with anyone.

[BrownsFan]

I would agree with you there he was a great LB during his Pittsburgh tenure.

[Raven07]

yea....he was kinda like a Mini Chad Johnson, in the way he always went after people before a game lol

[MKdave]

yea....he was kinda like a Mini Chad Johnson, in the way he always went after people before a game lol

I'm relatively confident that joey porter is bigger than Chad Johnson.

[Raven07]

LOL! yea if you want to compare the 2 in Size....LB vs. Wide Reciever....Porter has the more powerful build of a body BUT i think Chad's mouth gets after anyone more than Porter...or they are about the same...one of the two...or (if you choose to) pick both for that category