Welcome to Baltimore, Arthur Brown

[Guest nflfan123]

Mosley and Brown would basically be a no run zone

or take Shayne Skov in the later rounds

Round 1 I would go WR

[SecretAgentMan]

or take Shayne Skov in the later rounds

Round 1 I would go WR

Skov is a hell of a player, but I would rather have Mosley 

[CalvinSmoke]

Not making excuses because he did have a bad game there but he did well against RG3 as a spy. Also, wasn't his shoulder hurt by that game? I can't remember but I think I was.

your right, the read option was tripping him up a bit, and he was struggling with tackling Terrance Gannaway but when the 4th quarter came along and the option went away he blew the game up. Multiple splash plays, and he was able to bring down Gannaway. It was pretty impressive.

[K-Dog]

Idk about y'all but I cannot wait until the season starts and we get to see this D in action.

 

 

Man I hope they gel quickly.

If not this season ( even if late ) the will dominate next season.

[gabefergy]

Don't you dare talk about those missed tackles. When I remarked on it a few months ago, I was called a few words. You would think Arthur Brown is the second coming if you listen to a few people here. He can do no wrong!

Hey now. I wouldn't say I chewed you out, just vehemently disagreed ;) Anyways, if I remember correctly, you watched some more tape of him and changed your tune a bit! 

 

Brown was my favorite LB prospect and I desperately wanted him to be a Raven. He isn't a perfect prospect, but he is very well rounded and can excel in multiple roles. I think he needs to get a bit stronger, but he does play with very good technique. He shouldnt be the guy always taking on blocks, but I think he can fill that role if need be. I am most excited about his ability to cover though. He is very smart in his zone drops and and reads the QB extremely well. He is also better than most LBs in man coverage. I really like this added dimension he will bring to our defense.

[CalvinSmoke]

We gotta get this guy to do more squats so he can pop and hold on to Trent Richardson and Law Firm next year.

[The Raven]

Hey now. I wouldn't say I chewed you out, just vehemently disagreed ;) Anyways, if I remember correctly, you watched some more tape of him and changed your tune a bit! 

 

Brown was my favorite LB prospect and I desperately wanted him to be a Raven. He isn't a perfect prospect, but he is very well rounded and can excel in multiple roles. I think he needs to get a bit stronger, but he does play with very good technique. He shouldnt be the guy always taking on blocks, but I think he can fill that role if need be. I am most excited about his ability to cover though. He is very smart in his zone drops and and reads the QB extremely well. He is also better than most LBs in man coverage. I really like this added dimension he will bring to our defense.

 

 

Haha, fair enough! :P

 

I did indeed change my tune. As it happened, I watched probably his worst game available on youtube. My criticisms are still evident in his other videos, but to a much lesser extent. As I have said before, the freak dline in front of him will disguise his weaknesses.

 

Brown did remain my favorite LB prospect, even though I criticized him more than y'all. 

[organizedchaos007]

and you shouldn't be able to run up the gut with a front of jones ngata canty, or ngata Williams spears etc etc. If he's kept clean and can just read and react he will amass a heck of a lot of TFL in the run game, his strength though is his coverage ability and athleticism. With him patrolling underneath, Elam floating in the middle and huff deep the middle of the field right the way through should be very hard to complete passes in.

If you can get that first round talent out of jimmy, with Webb hopefully fully healthy picking up where he left of and graham improving, with our pass rush we should have a top 5 defense again.

Any support for joe on offense should put us right back in the mix for a repeat.

I pretty much echo everything you're saying. Dont forget about Mcphee in that mix either. He had a knack for getting his mitts on ALOT of passing attempts last season (at the line of scrimmage). I actually believe our safeties will be an upgrade (speed/athleticism). And as you said, Brown behind this ridiculous Dline rotation, I expect him to have a great year. I love Ray, he will always be my favorite player, ever, but we all know he was a liability in the passing game. Ontop of that, I think outside of Ray, Ozzie doesnt place great value on inside backers. Alot of our backers are undrafted. I think his mentality was building an overpowering Dline to dominate the run game and let our fast LB's run around and make plays, and become faster at the LB/DB positions to accommodate the passing offenses in the league. I actually kinda feel McClellan will be our other MLB. He never got much attention, but he quietly proved that he can step in and be a starter. And the more experience he got, the better he performed. And if I'm not mistaken, Albert was undrafted also wasnt he? 

 

We are SO much faster on Defense, and our pass rush should be one of the best in the league. Those things working hand in hand, and our upgraded Dline to stop the run. This years Defense is gonna be ridiculous. From a $ standpoint, I see next years draft focusing on Offensive skill positions and a T. The way our money is allocated on this team, we obviously cant pay a top receiver a boat load of money (from free agency), so the best way to get a playmaker WR, is to draft one early and get him to be productive on his rookie contract. 

[GrimCoconut]

I'm not sure if his shoulder was hurt, so i'll give him that one.

I'm not bagging on the guy of course. I'll check his tape against Baylor

Lol, I just read this article about Brown against the option. Just posted this morning.


http://russellstreetreport.com/tale-of-the-tape-arthur-browns-impressive-skill-set/

[Gordo52]

Anyone else hear his interview on the Fan? He sounds like a good guy. He replies with "sir". Doesn't watch alot of TV, never even heard about the Syracuse Mike Rice incident. Says his play speaks for itself for all the naysayers. Favorite player was Barry Sanders growing up, since then he hasn't watched much football but if he had to choose one player he models his game off of, he said it's Ray.

[GrimCoconut]

Anyone else hear his interview on the Fan? He sounds like a good guy. He replies with "sir". Doesn't watch alot of TV, never even heard about the Syracuse Mike Rice incident. Says his play speaks for itself for all the naysayers. Favorite player was Barry Sanders growing up, since then he hasn't watched much football but if he had to choose one player he models his game off of, he said it's Ray.

Yeah, I heard it. Really impressive. I don't watch a lot of TV either, so I get what he's saying there. 

 

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/05/01/ravens-second-round-draft-pick-arthur-brown-joins-the-norris-and-davis-show/

 

For those of you who couldn't listen. 

[izvoodoo]

Anyone else hear his interview on the Fan? He sounds like a good guy. He replies with "sir". Doesn't watch alot of TV, never even heard about the Syracuse Mike Rice incident. Says his play speaks for itself for all the naysayers. Favorite player was Barry Sanders growing up, since then he hasn't watched much football but if he had to choose one player he models his game off of, he said it's Ray.

 

I heard, he has been known as a good guy.

[PuRock]

Anyone else hear his interview on the Fan? He sounds like a good guy. He replies with "sir". Doesn't watch alot of TV, never even heard about the Syracuse Mike Rice incident. Says his play speaks for itself for all the naysayers. Favorite player was Barry Sanders growing up, since then he hasn't watched much football but if he had to choose one player he models his game off of, he said it's Ray.

 

I watched all of his interviews on Youtube a few months ago.  A soft spoken guy, but very level-headed and smart.  

 

Though, I can see some people breaking out the Joe Flacco complaint on Arthur.  "He doesn't show a lot of emotion" blah. 

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I love this pick. I do see his size as a weakness, but one that he will be able to overcome with his instincts and intelligence. Seems like a guy to me that takes a work smart approach. He's very aware of what his weaknesses are and while i trust he'll work on them I also believe he's smart enough to emphasize his strengths and use them to avoid situations where his weaknesses can be exploited. As many have pointed out he's not the first LB to be knocked for his size, and there are plenty of great examples of guys who turned out to be excellent players. He's almost the exact size Ray was coming in to the league if im not mistaken...

My gut tells me he will be an impact player on our defense from day 1 on. He and Elam will be the cornerstones of the defense for years to come.

I have seen a lot of expectations that our defense is going to jump right back to dominance after being down last year. While i agree the defense will be improved and we've added younger, quality players all across the board... the fact remains that a lot of guys we will be counting on to be dominant are very young.

I dont think theres any question the defense is faster, more athletic, and more talented man-for-man this year compared to last; but Im not ready to underestimate the value of the experience and leadership we lost. Elam and Brown have all the potential to be dominant.... Reed and Lewis had the experience of having been dominant for years. Last year we had a key leader who personified Ravens football at each level of the defense with years and years of experience in knowing how to lead a dominant defense unit. Last year age caught up with them finally.

Yes we have Ngata, Suggs, and Webb. They all have experience being a key piece of a dominant defense, but were counted on to lead and teach that dominant mentality. I think they'll all grow into that role; but ive tempered my expectations a bit. The potential on paper is that we have an absolutely dominant defense. Whether or not that actually materializes this season? I hope so. But I do expect it takes a little for Suggs and Ngata to transition into being true leaders and being accountable for the entire D.... I fully expect it to take time for Canty, Spears, Dumervil, Huff, and all the rookies to transition and learn what playing like a Raven means.

I EXPECT an improved defense, and am HOPING for dominance. But im afraid to let my excitement get the best of me to where i expect the dominance to come immediately. It could take a while for this thing to mesh together, but when it does.... watch out. The Ravens D will be back

[Gordo52]

Yeah, I heard it. Really impressive. I don't watch a lot of TV either, so I get what he's saying there.

http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2013/05/01/ravens-second-round-draft-pick-arthur-brown-joins-the-norris-and-davis-show/

For those of you who couldn't listen.

Yeah same here. I just fount it odd, him being a college student, never even heard of the mike rice incident.

[Gordo52]

I watched all of his interviews on Youtube a few months ago. A soft spoken guy, but very level-headed and smart.

Though, I can see some people breaking out the Joe Flacco complaint on Arthur. "He doesn't show a lot of emotion" blah.

Ugh I hope not. I don't think it will be the case though. Hopefully after seeing What Flacco did throughout the entire playoffs, alot of people who used to complain about that realize it's really not that important.

[CalvinSmoke]

Lol, I just read this article about Brown against the option. Just posted this morning.


http://russellstreetreport.com/tale-of-the-tape-arthur-browns-impressive-skill-set/

When he show's him against Baylor he only talks about the 4th quarter. That's when he obviously went super saiyan and took over that game lol. If we can get that Brown all the time we'll have a hall of famer.

[nextgen_RavensFan]

Did anyone listen to his interview on 105.7 today ? Was very surprised to learn that he does not watch a lot of football. Not sure why i was surprised though as you would not catch me doing a ton of wiring at home LOL. I just cannot wait to see his motor on the field. We got a lot of speed this draft and i am so excited to see it reflect on the field. 

[RavenFanatic1327]

hes really fast and he can cover receivers and backs over the middle.. im estatic about this pick.. starter from day 1

[RavenBuckeye]

Seriously I can't be the only one to see the irony of the Ravens drafting Arthur Brown? This hit me immediately last Wednesday when reading about him, and the possibility the Ravens could draft him.
I mean come on, the first draft after Art Modell's passing, the Ravens winning their second Super Bowl, and Ray Lewis retiring, and they choose a guy named "Art Brown" to replace him. What's the chances of that?

[GrimCoconut]

Seriously I can't be the only one to see the irony of the Ravens drafting Arthur Brown? This hit me immediately last Wednesday when reading about him, and the possibility the Ravens could draft him.
I mean come on, the first draft after Art Modell's passing, the Ravens winning their second Super Bowl, and Ray Lewis retiring, and they choose a guy named "Art Brown" to replace him. What's the chances of that?

Clearly the ghost of Art Modell willed this to happen. Maybe he caused Brown's shoulder injury.

[Inqui]

Seriously I can't be the only one to see the irony of the Ravens drafting Arthur Brown? This hit me immediately last Wednesday when reading about him, and the possibility the Ravens could draft him.
I mean come on, the first draft after Art Modell's passing, the Ravens winning their second Super Bowl, and Ray Lewis retiring, and they choose a guy named "Art Brown" to replace him. What's the chances of that?

Wow, I hadn't realised that. I love it.

[Inqui]

Ugh I hope not. I don't think it will be the case though. Hopefully after seeing What Flacco did throughout the entire playoffs, alot of people who used to complain about that realize it's really not that important.

People are already saying it, just take a look at this thread. Against Baylor after sacking RG3 (or pushing him out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage) in the fourth quarter he doesn't do anything fancy, just runs back to the line. What I will say is that he gives a more focussed and intense impression than Joe Flacco, but he doesn't have the swag and air of confidence of a guy like Matt Elam.

 

I'm honestly not too sure how I feel about that. I love his focus and willingness to get back to work, but I also like the idea of our future defensive leader being a bit cocky. When you look at Matt Elam, you just know he's waiting to make a big play. Hopefully they can both form a balanced type of leadership.

[Inqui]

I love this pick. I do see his size as a weakness, but one that he will be able to overcome with his instincts and intelligence. Seems like a guy to me that takes a work smart approach. He's very aware of what his weaknesses are and while i trust he'll work on them I also believe he's smart enough to emphasize his strengths and use them to avoid situations where his weaknesses can be exploited. As many have pointed out he's not the first LB to be knocked for his size, and there are plenty of great examples of guys who turned out to be excellent players. He's almost the exact size Ray was coming in to the league if im not mistaken...

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I EXPECT an improved defense, and am HOPING for dominance. But im afraid to let my excitement get the best of me to where i expect the dominance to come immediately. It could take a while for this thing to mesh together, but when it does.... watch out. The Ravens D will be back

I agree that a real underrated part of our defence was Ray and Ed being able to place guys and sniff out plays - even against the great Peyton Manning. I love how Tom Brady eventually learned "Find 20" before each play and I think they gave us a real psychological edge.

 

No doubt there'll be growing pains this year, but Arthur Brown seems like such an instinctive guy that he'll be able to learn a lot via osmosis this year in particular. I think going up against Peyton Manning to start his professional career (I know there's preseason too. Whatever) is a real privilege he can pick up a lot from. In 10 years time, there won't be many ILBs that can say they duked it out with one of the smartest QBs of all time.

[GrimCoconut]

People are already saying it, just take a look at this thread. Against Baylor after sacking RG3 (or pushing him out of bounds behind the line of scrimmage) in the fourth quarter he doesn't do anything fancy, just runs back to the line. What I will say is that he gives a more focussed and intense impression than Joe Flacco, but he doesn't have the swag and air of confidence of a guy like Matt Elam.

 

I'm honestly not too sure how I feel about that. I love his focus and willingness to get back to work, but I also like the idea of our future defensive leader being a bit cocky. When you look at Matt Elam, you just know he's waiting to make a big play. Hopefully they can both form a balanced type of leadership.

There is something very psychologically intimidating about a player who shows no excitement when they make a big play. In fact, I think that is even more intimidating to an offensive player. The reason being is they expect a guy to show-boat, go crazy, make fun, etc. Arthur Brown is stoic, emotionless, like a freaking machine. He pops you, gets a pick-6 & takes it to the house then goes back to work. He's like the Terminator. 

[Inqui]

There is something very psychologically intimidating about a player who shows no excitement when they make a big play. In fact, I think that is even more intimidating to an offensive player. The reason being is they expect a guy to show-boat, go crazy, make fun, etc. Arthur Brown is stoic, emotionless, like a freaking machine. He pops you, gets a pick-6 & takes it to the house then goes back to work. He's like the Terminator. 

 

Actually, you could be onto something. Your post just triggered a memory of a rugby league player over in Australia saying the hardest hitters, in his experience, weren't the ones who'd beat their chest and celebrate after a big hit. Instead, it was the guys who'd quietly get back onside (ie, run back the required 10 metres) and treat the big hit as just another tackle. Those were the guys he was more afraid of.

[Purple Nurple]

There is something very psychologically intimidating about a player who shows no excitement when they make a big play. In fact, I think that is even more intimidating to an offensive player. The reason being is they expect a guy to show-boat, go crazy, make fun, etc. Arthur Brown is stoic, emotionless, like a freaking machine. He pops you, gets a pick-6 & takes it to the house then goes back to work. He's like the Terminator.

He's a machine? Jerk?

[Bltravens]

Actually, you could be onto something. Your post just triggered a memory of a rugby league player over in Australia saying the hardest hitters, in his experience, weren't the ones who'd beat their chest and celebrate after a big hit. Instead, it was the guys who'd quietly get back onside (ie, run back the required 10 metres) and treat the big hit as just another tackle. Those were the guys he was more afraid of.

 

Same thing in hockey, its never the guys who talk all kinds of crap.  In the words of my dad who used to fight regularly in junior hockey in Canada "it was the quiet ones you watch out for."

Now having said that, Lewis was by far and away at his best when he was playing on pure rage and constantly in guys' faces.

[Inqui]

Same thing in hockey, its never the guys who talk all kinds of crap.  In the words of my dad who used to fight regularly in junior hockey in Canada "it was the quiet ones you watch out for."

Now having said that, Lewis was by far and away at his best when he was playing on pure rage and constantly in guys' faces.

It's interesting just how similar different sports can be.

 

I think part of Ray Lewis's leadership was the passion he showed. When your leader is making big plays and making a huge deal about it, that's something you'd notice. I guess it all depends on your team and your leader's personality (here's looking at you Joe Flacco).

 

I get the feeling when it's all said and done, Ray Lewis and Arthur Brown Jr will be thought of as great franchise leaders but in their own different ways. I remember when I worked in a kitchen earlier in the year the manager was the kind of guy who'd stay calm under pressure and come up big during the customer rushes. He had the kind of calm and focussed demeanour that calmed everyone else when the pressure was on and that's the way he worked.

[arnie_uk]

Him and ray Lewis are complete other ends of the spectrum, brown says he's not a vocal leader, leads by example