We Picked Our Wr In The 2nd Round One Year Too Early.

[Marcus]

Yamon Figurs should be playing like DeSean Jackson.

[b-ravens4ever]

[quote name='Marcus' post='95648' date='Nov 28 2008, 08:14 PM']Yamon Figurs should be playing like DeSean Jackson.[/quote]
Yamon needs to work on being able to keep possesion of the ball after it is in his hands.

[kash96ravenstotalfan]

[quote name='Marcus' post='95648' date='Nov 28 2008, 08:14 PM']Yamon Figurs should be playing like DeSean Jackson.[/quote]
Agreed, but he is not. I think he lacks confidence in himself. He never seems to be able to figure out when to return the ball, or when to take a knee. Hopefully, the coaches are working with him on this. He has breakaway speed and should be producing more IMO. Several times Cam has stated that he expects Figurs to have a break out game? Haven't seen that yet. What do you guys think is his problem? I would like to think that he has a future with the Ravens, but if he doesn't get his act together - then I don;t know? I have also given thought that he could be a WR for us, but maybe he doesn;t have the hands for that, but he does have the speed.

[Ravnet]

Yamon Figurs made his money almost exclusively off of his 40 time. It's a shame the Ravens fell for it.

[Mick0311]

[quote name='Ravnet' post='95657' date='Nov 28 2008, 06:36 PM']Yamon Figurs made his money almost exclusively off of his 40 time. It's a shame the Ravens fell for it.[/quote]

I agree, he is the typical quick guy turned wider receiver. I hope he works out though. Lots of speed with zero vision.

[neepo13]

Figurs was a third round pick.

[Sizzle]

[quote name='neepo13' post='95670' date='Nov 28 2008, 10:06 PM']Figurs was a third round pick.[/quote]
I was just about to say this lol there is a biggg difference between a 2nd rounder and a 3rd rounder. I think yaman was a late 3rd rounder too.

[neepo13]

[quote name='Sizzle' post='95675' date='Nov 29 2008, 12:19 AM']I was just about to say this lol there is a biggg difference between a 2nd rounder and a 3rd rounder. I think yaman was a late 3rd rounder too.[/quote]

Yeah, he was. He was taken closer to the 4th round then he was the 2nd round.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='Marcus' post='95648' date='Nov 28 2008, 08:14 PM']Yamon Figurs should be playing like DeSean Jackson.[/quote]

Though I get what you're saying, I'm not a DeSean Jackson fan and I don't think he'll pan out, so my opinion on this matter isn't really contributing anything.

[kze]

[quote name='neepo13' post='95676' date='Nov 29 2008, 05:24 AM']Yeah, he was. He was taken closer to the 4th round then he was the 2nd round.[/quote]


There you go. This basically nullifies the point of this thread.

[raven43]

Hey, they all said Ted Ginn wouldn't work out, and look at him now.

[ChiseBack(CB)]

[quote name='raven43' post='95699' date='Nov 29 2008, 11:49 PM']Hey, they all said Ted Ginn wouldn't work out, and look at him now. [/quote]

This is a not-your-typical-reciever thing isn't it, same thing happened with Carolina's Steve Smith.

For a late third he's decent value, above average return guy and slight deep threat.

Also if you look at the rest of the draft it was one of our better drafts in recent history, so many starters from one draft just makes me happy that Ozzie is GM.

[FerrariFan87]

Actually, Yamon was the 10th pick of the 3rd Round (74th overall), so he was closer to a 2nd Round pick than a 3rd Round pick... I think the reason he isn't getting the ball is that Joe isn't looking for him like he is looking for Mason nearly every throw (and I don't blame him), but sooner or later Joe is going to have to get through his progressions faster and find other receivers who are wide open.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='FerrariFan87' post='95715' date='Nov 29 2008, 09:37 AM']I think the reason he isn't getting the ball is that Joe isn't looking for him like he is looking for Mason nearly every throw (and I don't blame him)[/quote]

Keep in mind, though, we hadn't seen Figurs on the field when D.Will and Clayton were both healthy with Mason starting. And it was probably because Figurs just wasn't far enough in his development as a receiver as Williams and Clayton were. Remember, Figurs' bread-and-butter is returning kicks (though he hasn't done much of that this season...), so he's still learning the position.

When Figurs learns how to run better routes, he'll probably catch on as a deep threat (no pun intended). But, for right now, things aren't looking too good on that front, otherwise, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

[Ravnet]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='95778' date='Nov 29 2008, 06:29 PM']Keep in mind, though, we hadn't seen Figurs on the field when D.Will and Clayton were both healthy with Mason starting. And it was probably because Figurs just wasn't far enough in his development as a receiver as Williams and Clayton were. Remember, Figurs' bread-and-butter is returning kicks (though he hasn't done much of that this season...), so he's still learning the position.

When Figurs learns how to run better routes, [b]he'll probably catch on as a deep threat[/b] (no pun intended). But, for right now, things aren't looking too good on that front, otherwise, we wouldn't be having this conversation.[/quote]

The problem with being a receiver that specializes in fades/long balls/slants is that the defense will see it coming an commit a SS/FS to pick him up. If Figurs is able to develop as a long threat and additionally be able to work the intermediate routes, then he'd be trouble.

[heapitup247]

Desean Jackson isnt a good reciever. He's a very stupid player for one thing. He has all the athleticism he could ever need, but he doesnt have the cuts or the mental part down. Fabian Washington shut him down because hes just as fast as he is. A good reciever can catch passes against any corner. Figurs has the same athleticism that Jackson has, but the same thing in that the mental aspect of his game just isnt there. For now im content with him as a kick returner and a good slot guy in madden.

[neepo13]

[quote name='heapitup247' post='95786' date='Nov 29 2008, 07:50 PM']Desean Jackson isnt a good reciever. He's a very stupid player for one thing. He has all the athleticism he could ever need, but he doesnt have the cuts or the mental part down. Fabian Washington shut him down because hes just as fast as he is. A good reciever can catch passes against any corner. Figurs has the same athleticism that Jackson has, but the same thing in that the mental aspect of his game just isnt there. For now im content with him as a kick returner and a good slot guy in madden.[/quote]

But to be fair our defense shut down Philly's entire offense not just Jackson. Its kind of hard to really stand out when your QB keeps overthrowing you or turning the ball over. The only real bonehead play he had was not doing more to break up Washingtons interception, which I am not so sure is on him because McNabb shouldnt have thrown that ball.

[heapitup247]

[quote name='neepo13' post='95789' date='Nov 29 2008, 08:03 PM']But to be fair our defense shut down Philly's entire offense not just Jackson. Its kind of hard to really stand out when your QB keeps overthrowing you or turning the ball over. The only real bonehead play he had was not doing more to break up Washingtons interception, which I am not so sure is on him because McNabb shouldnt have thrown that ball.[/quote]

He had 1 on 1 coverage with no safety help.. a "good" receiever makes that play. Part of their QB problem is the receivers not getting open, because when Kolb came in it didnt help, so that means you cant put it all on the QB. While i agree you cant judge him on one game, i still believe that he is incredibly overrated. I think he can improve, but hes not going to be an elite reciever. Thats just my opinion on him.

[Mahatma_Sloth]

all i have to say is yamon leads the team in kick return yards and he held onto the ball when flacco put it where he knows he would get laidout hes not the greatest but has mucho potential

[neepo13]

[quote name='heapitup247' post='95803' date='Nov 29 2008, 11:05 PM']He had 1 on 1 coverage with no safety help.. a "good" receiever makes that play. Part of their QB problem is the receivers not getting open, because when Kolb came in it didnt help, so that means you cant put it all on the QB. While i agree you cant judge him on one game, i still believe that he is incredibly overrated. I think he can improve, but hes not going to be an elite reciever. Thats just my opinion on him.[/quote]

I totally disagree, Kolb and McNabb were both way off during that game. On Reed's first pick, their wasnt an Eagle WR anywhere near him. When Kolb came in and came very close to giving our D a safety he had a wr getting a very large cushion very close to the 1st down marker and he still couldnt hit him. I am not a Desean Jackson fan at all, I just dont think its fair to judge a rookie wr based on a game that his entire team stunk it up in.