Amplus' Top Tiers - The Final Installment

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SanFran has one of the best OL, but they also have a young Kaepernick who may also turn over the ball. Smith, while he's not going to be an All-Pro or probably not even a Pro Bowler, has been pretty damn good about ball security. Houston's not a slouch, but they just traded away their game manager in Matt Schaub. I realize this is a separate ranking for the opposite side of the ball. I'm not oblivious. I am saying that the offense & its scheme greatly impact the defense & its ranking. If you have an offense with poor ball security; a quick, up-tempo offense; an offense that can score easily; or an offense that can't run the ball then you're going to have some serious problems for your defense. This is football 101. 

 

My defense is very good. Is it elite? I'm not sure, but I'm not sure there are many elite defenses in this mock. The Niners have four cornerbacks, lmao. At least that's what his depth chart says. LOL I have no idea how that can be a top defense with four cornerbacks on the roster. Maybe if this was 1930 or something. He has no listed depth at OLB behind his two starters. Do I need to continue? No? I think I've made my case on the Niners.

 

The Texans could be a threat. They stayed the same & brought in some pieces at CB, LB, & NT. I have no idea how Peko will translate a 3-4 NT. 

 

I'll post more later. 

 

Colin Kaepernick threw 5 INTs in 10 starts. Alex Smith threw 5 INTs in 9 starts. Smith is definitely seen as a top tier game manager, but with the fact that Kaepernick played relatively mistake free football, he's given no basis for discounting him in relation to Smith thus far. That they have. Though they did draft a solid prospect in Ryan Nassib. You've made it clear that you recognize the fact that the ranking system is separate  yet you've repeatedly attempted to factor one side into another when we're discussing both facets separately. Yes, I most certainly agree. And this Football 101 belongs in the discussion of the Overall ranking, when we're discussing the grand scheme, where it's certainly accounted for. But when we're ranking Offenses and Defenses separately, they should probably be kept separate. Simple logic.

 

 

If you yourself aren't certain about your defense, then it's difficult to expect anyone else to be. Both Houston and San Francisco have fielded top tier units over the last two seasons. Neither has had a significant turnover since last season, and both have added pieces to those units since then. You've made your case by failing to accurately depict their roster? They drafted Tyrann Mathieu to bolster their CB corps, a player you've openly praised. Even then, their 5th CB played a total of 30 snaps last season, so if they were lacking a 5th option, it wouldn't have automatically kept them from being elite. They've also added Bennie Logan and DJ Swearinger. Parys Haralson and Cam Johnson are their reserves at OLB, both of whom were on their roster in the prior season. And Haralson, their best reserve at OLB, also missed the entire 2012, and is reportedly expected to be healthy coming into 2013. It helps to do your homework before discussing a certain group, as its current state is far different from what you've described.

 

I agree on Peko, although draftee John Jenkins could be considered an upgrade over Shaun Cody, who's been a disappointed at NT.

[GrimCoconut]

Colin Kaepernick threw 5 INTs in 10 starts. Alex Smith threw 5 INTs in 9 starts. Smith is definitely seen as a top tier game manager, but with the fact that Kaepernick played relatively mistake free football, he's given no basis for discounting him in relation to Smith thus far. That they have. Though they did draft a solid prospect in Ryan Nassib. You've made it clear that you recognize the fact that the ranking system is separate  yet you've repeatedly attempted to factor one side into another when we're discussing both facets separately. Yes, I most certainly agree. And this Football 101 belongs in the discussion of the Overall ranking, when we're discussing the grand scheme, where it's certainly accounted for. But when we're ranking Offenses and Defenses separately, they should probably be kept separate. Simple logic.

 

 

If you yourself aren't certain about your defense, then it's difficult to expect anyone else to be. Both Houston and San Francisco have fielded top tier units over the last two seasons. Neither has had a significant turnover since last season, and both have added pieces to those units since then. You've made your case by failing to accurately depict their roster? They drafted Tyrann Mathieu to bolster their CB corps, a player you've openly praised. Even then, their 5th CB played a total of 36 snaps last season, so if they were lacking a 5th option, it wouldn't have automatically kept them from being elite. They've also added Bennie Logan and DJ Swearinger. Parys Haralson and Cam Johnson are their reserves at OLB, both of whom were on their roster in the prior season. And Haralson, their best reserve at OLB, also missed the entire 2012, and is reportedly expected to be healthy coming into 2013. It helps to do your homework before discussing a certain group, as its current state is far different from what you've described.

 

I agree on Peko, although draftee John Jenkins could be considered an upgrade over Shaun Cody, who's been a disappointed at NT.

You know what? I was going to give you reasons, but that statement right there is totally unnecessary. I was in no way disrespectful to you in any way, shape, or form in my prior post. The "football 101" stuff & "No? I think I've made my case on the Niners" stuff had, in no way, shape, or form, any disrespectful intent directed to you at all. Yet you seem to insult me by saying I should do my homework? Who the Hell are you?

[Alexir]

So a rookie QB with veteran receivers, tight end, LT and 2 veteran running backs is unproven? This is laughable.

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You know what? I was going to give you reasons, but that statement right there is totally unnecessary. I was in no way disrespectful to you in any way, shape, or form in my prior post. The "football 101" stuff & "No? I think I've made my case on the Niners" stuff had, in no way, shape, or form, any disrespectful intent directed to you at all. Yet you seem to insult me by saying I should do my homework? Who the Hell are you?

 

Likewise, this isn't meant as disrespect. It was offered as advice, as you've failed to adhere to what I've described in this situation. You're blatantly berating and mocking the 49ers defense in two separate threads, proclaiming that their secondary would only be effective in the 1930's. Yet you haven't even given them the time of day to look into who is actually on their roster. And then you have the audacity to fire back at me for supposedly being disrespectful? Please tell me you're not serious. Check yourself.

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An in-depth look at the Saints 2013 defensive unit, with stats and analysis of each facet:

 

 

Pass Rushing

 

Overall Statistical Performance: Apart from amassing 51.5 sacks in 2012, this front seven also combined for 270 QB pressures and QB hits.

 

Overview: On a per snap basis, the Saints defense currently fields the 1st, 5th and 10th most productive pass rushing DEs in Brandon Graham, Derrick Morgan and Carlos Dunlap. It also features the 2nd most productive DT in Nick Fairley, and the 8th most productive OLB in Erin Henderson. Lastly, Jarvis Jones was among the most productive in the NCAA. It should be noted that 3 of these players were given less than 60% of their teams' defensive snaps, a figure they will almost certainly surpass in the upcoming season. That being said, the Saints should own one of the best pass rushing units in 2013.

 

 

Run Defense

 

Overall Statistical Performance: The front seven totaled 276 stops, or Offensive failures, in run defense, with 32 missed tackles.

 

Overview: Graham and Dunlap finished with the 2nd and 3rd highest run stop percentages among their position peers. Henderson finished 6th among all OLBs. Dan Williams 2nd among NTs, and Antonio Dixon finished 3rd among DTs on a very limited amount of snaps. Lastly, Jordan and Morgan finished 4th and 11th in total stops among all Defensive Linemen. With these pieces coming together, this front seven should be capable of handling opposing running games on a weekly basis.

 

 

Coverage

 

Overall Statistical Performance: Targeted on 376 occasions in 2012, the secondary allowed 178 receptions for 2,279 pass yards, a completion percentage of 47.3%, 12 TDs, 15 INT with 46 PDs and a QB rating of 60.8.

 

Overview: Halting opposing signal callers to QB ratings of 68.9, 62.0 and 21.9 in 2012, CBs Chris Owens, Shareece Wright and FS Isa Abdul-Quddus provide quality depth behind the current starters, as does Nevada standout Duke Williams. Donald Butler provides coverage ability from the ILB position, surrendering the 10th lowest QB rating (82.7) among all ILBs, and the 6th lowest completion percentage (65.8%). The acquisitions of Owens and Wright allow Devin McCourty to shift to FS on obvious passing downs, with Kenny Phillips at SS, and Adrian Wilson moving down into the box next to Butler. The level of success of both its starters and reserves should make for numerous formidable packages, especially with the pass rush looming.