Ravens in NFL Top 100 Players of 2013

[ratedr]

Based on the previews it looks like Jones and Pollard will be in the next 10.

[PolishRifle]

Seeing bitter Aldon Smith saying, that Pitta is not a top100 player was literally the best thing ever. I loved how NFLN finished it all off by showing American Express score on the 49ers.

[ratedr]

Seeing bitter Aldon Smith saying, that Pitta is not a top100 player was literally the best thing ever. I loved how NFLN finished it all off by showing American Express score on the 49ers.

Niners players are just as whiny as their coach.

[ratedr]

Based on the previews it looks like Jones and Pollard will be in the next 10.

Looks like I was right. Jones #88, Pollard #87.

 

They mentioned 9 players from the Ravens will be on the list, but they didn't specify if they were current Ravens or past Ravens.

 

I'm thinking current because including past Ravens would push the number to 10. Flacco, Rice, Smith, Jones, Pitta, Yanda (?) on offense, Suggs, Dumervil, Ngata on defense.

[easternshore97]

Trying to be objective, I would put Torrey behind Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Julio Jones, Roddy White, Dex Bryant, A.J. Green, Brandon Marshall, Mike Wallace, Dwayne Bowe, Percy Harvin, Vincent Jackson, Victor Cruz, Demarius Thomas, Michael Crabtree, Jordy Nelson, Wes Welker, Stevie Johnson, and Desean Jackson. That's 19 players right there. So how many of them get left off the list in favor of Torrey? Or do 20 receivers make the list?

 

And that's not even including Antonio Brown, Mike Williams, Jeremy Maclin, Marques Colston, Steve Smith, Santonio Holmes, Sidney Rice, Malcolm Floyd, Brian Hartline, Danny Amendola, Donnie Avery... the list goes on. I don't think Torrey is in the top 30 receivers yet. Even though he beat Champ, it was only on a few plays the entire game. We just have a QB who can take advantage of it. Most receivers could get 1-on-1 separation after 40 yards, but how many QBs actually attempt it?

Didn't Desean get kidnapped in 2012?

[easternshore97]

C'mon now everyone knows supposed almost interceptions are way more devastating than actual interceptions...

 

for reals

[easternshore97]

I gotta say I find something very interesting - everywhere you go people talk about how much Joe sucks because he has great receivers around him that make plays for him.  Yet you go on NFL.com and all those same people talk about is the fact that both Pitta and Boldin are overrated and shouldn't be on the top 100 list.

 

FOR REALS...

[easternshore97]

Here, you want to make Heath Evans start to twitch and foam at the mouth?  Just give him a comparison of Drew Brees' post season when he won the Superbowl with Joe Flacco's:

 

Brees: 3games - 72comp/102att - 732 yards - 7.2yds/att - 8TD - 0 INT - RTG 117

Flacco:  4games - 73com/126att - 1140yards - 9.0yds/att - 11 TD - 0 INT - RTG 117
 

Then remind him that it took Brees 9 years to win his first .. Flacco only 5 while at the same time winning 4 more post season games in those 5 years than Brees won in 12.  I got money he swallows his tongue.

No not really...he'd probably just tell you that's hogwash. Like Aaron Rodgers' little brother. Like Skip Bayless.

 

Nobody wants to talk about the real issues, but rather, he doesn't make it to the pro-bowl ever and my personal favorite - he had the 2 worst ever "QBRs" ever since some jabroni invented it. Which means that interceptions must not really affect the measure that much given the 5 interception games of Romo, the multi-4 interception games of Cutler, the multi mult-pick games of Brett Favre, and the numerous horid performances of Mark Sanchez..

 

As a matter of fact, both Bayless and Evans would give the above as reason why Flacco is so God-awful and every and any accoloade attributed to him should be discarded

[easternshore97]

Joe's not allowed to do anything. If the receiver's covered, it's a "jump ball". If the receiver's open, it doesn't count because the defender made a mistake. Gimme a break. He's gonna be around top 30 this year like Eli was last year after winning the Super Bowl. 

That's awesome. Wonder what they all had to say about Joe's pass to Pitta on that 3rd and 13 backed up on Denver's goal line

[wademan2636]

No not really...he'd probably just tell you that's hogwash. Like Aaron Rodgers' little brother. Like Skip Bayless.

 

Nobody wants to talk about the real issues, but rather, he doesn't make it to the pro-bowl ever and my personal favorite - he had the 2 worst ever "QBRs" ever since some jabroni invented it. Which means that interceptions must not really affect the measure that much given the 5 interception games of Romo, the multi-4 interception games of Cutler, the multi mult-pick games of Brett Favre, and the numerous horid performances of Mark Sanchez..

 

As a matter of fact, both Bayless and Evans would give the above as reason why Flacco is so God-awful and every and any accoloade attributed to him should be discarded

this whole thing just makes me so mad.  the experts are just annoyed that they were wrong about flacco all last season, so now they're trying to save face by trying to point out flaws when there aren't any.  flacco humiliated evans and bayless, so now, they're just trying to make themselves look less stupid than they are.  however, i think by now, flacco has earned the recognition he deserves and has put those critics like evans and bayless in their place: last.  

 

"theoretical interceptions" is the stupidest thing ive ever heard.  how can heath evans look himself in the mirror and not vomit at what he sees.  flacco is going to be a pro bowler at some point, and we all know that as long as flacco is our QB, we'll always be contenders

[MrPlankton]

No not really...he'd probably just tell you that's hogwash. Like Aaron Rodgers' little brother. Like Skip Bayless.

 

Nobody wants to talk about the real issues, but rather, he doesn't make it to the pro-bowl ever and my personal favorite - he had the 2 worst ever "QBRs" ever since some jabroni invented it. Which means that interceptions must not really affect the measure that much given the 5 interception games of Romo, the multi-4 interception games of Cutler, the multi mult-pick games of Brett Favre, and the numerous horid performances of Mark Sanchez..

 

As a matter of fact, both Bayless and Evans would give the above as reason why Flacco is so God-awful and every and any accoloade attributed to him should be discarded

 

I'm pretty sure during that four game stretch Flacco's average QBR was around 46. Can you believe that?

[easternshore97]

[quote name="MrPlankton" post="1461886" timestamp="1367613142"]I'm pretty sure during that four game stretch Flacco's average QBR was around 46. Can you believe that?[/quote] HAAAAaaaaah!!! (Hopefully the mods don't flag my caps) I managed to find a YouTube link of what appears to have been a career day for Heath Evans in terms of touches. It is of course coming against an inferior opponent. Didn't watch the whole thing. I am the 1 guy that disliked the video. http://youtu.be/WdJ79rJ4QXA

[Yatagarasu]

That Super Bowl win really hyped everyone on the team.

[codizzle]

That Super Bowl win really hyped everyone on the team.

Yea honestly Jacoby has no reason at all to be on this list

Just the truth. Absolutely love the guy But He doesn't offer enough on offense to justify being a top 100 player..

[RavensAllTheWay]

That Super Bowl win really hyped everyone on the team.

 

Specifically guys like Kruger and Ellerbe who were FAs after the season and are no longer with us though.  But I agree with codizzle, Jacoby doesn't do enough offensively to be on this list.  Pollard/Pitta are debatable, but they're both solid players in their own right.

[Alexir]

Do they base the top 100 off of regular season only or postseason too? Because if it' is regular season, Boldin and Flacco will not be as high.

[baltravens]

NFL Network is an OK channel. If I was not such a big NFL fan, I probably would not watch it as much. The 100 best players of 2013 is interesting, but I just keep hearing the echos of a rerun the day before on that channel of The Top Ten Defenses of All Time and seeing the 2000 Ravens defenses being ranked as 7th out of 10. That was ridiculous and made that segment illigitimate since our 2000 defense was probably no worse than #2 all-time.

 

I also tune out that channel quite frequently because of the announcers, too. I am not even going to mention the ones that cannot intelligently discuss the game of football.

[Bravens292]

NFL Network is an OK channel. If I was not such a big NFL fan, I probably would not watch it as much. The 100 best players of 2013 is interesting, but I just keep hearing the echos of a rerun the day before on that channel of The Top Ten Defenses of All Time and seeing the 2000 Ravens defenses being ranked as 7th out of 10. That was ridiculous and made that segment illigitimate since our 2000 defense was probably no worse than #2 all-time.

 

I also tune out that channel quite frequently because of the announcers, too. I am not even going to mention the ones that cannot intelligently discuss the game of football.

 

I love the gameday crew - Eisen, Irvin, Faulk, etc but the studio guys i cannot stand - Evans, Sapp, Dukes, etc

[easternshore97]

Yea honestly Jacoby has no reason at all to be on this list

Just the truth. Absolutely love the guy But He doesn't offer enough on offense to justify being a top 100 player..

Agreed. That was my initial thought. But I thought it was about Best Players. Jacoby had 3 return TDs while contributing on offense, albeit not a whole lot, but just enough. That's the same reason why Percy Harvin makes the list, because of a broad "skillset"

 

Right?

[billick]

Joe got much better when we dumped Harbs choice @ OC.

[baltravens]

I love the gameday crew - Eisen, Irvin, Faulk, etc but the studio guys i cannot stand - Evans, Sapp, Dukes, etc

Yes, right on! Evans, Sapp, and Dukes are all bad!

[arnie_uk]

Agreed. That was my initial thought. But I thought it was about Best Players. Jacoby had 3 return TDs while contributing on offense, albeit not a whole lot, but just enough. That's the same reason why Percy Harvin makes the list, because of a broad "skillset"
 
Right?

percy harvin was in MVP discussions until he got hurt. Jones isn't even in the same ball park as harvin

[arnie_uk]

NFL Network is an OK channel. If I was not such a big NFL fan, I probably would not watch it as much. The 100 best players of 2013 is interesting, but I just keep hearing the echos of a rerun the day before on that channel of The Top Ten Defenses of All Time and seeing the 2000 Ravens defenses being ranked as 7th out of 10. That was ridiculous and made that segment illigitimate since our 2000 defense was probably no worse than #2 all-time.
 
I also tune out that channel quite frequently because of the announcers, too. I am not even going to mention the ones that cannot intelligently discuss the game of football.

well that goes without saying, why would you watch a nfl specific channel and not be a fan of it

[The Raven]

Joe got much better when we dumped Harbs choice @ OC.

 

Harbs is the one who fired him Mr. Genius.

 

:rolleyes:

[PolishRifle]

Do they base the top 100 off of regular season only or postseason too? Because if it' is regular season, Boldin and Flacco will not be as high.

Boldin (#93) already appeared on the list, so I would assume, that the voting was also based on post-season performance.

Flacco probably would go up on the list regardless of the playoffs. The ending of the regular season was rough, but Joe had a couple really stellar games at the begining and in the end came back strong against the Giants after that 3 game losing streak, which send the Ravens to the playoffs again.

The post-season will just send him up the list that much higher. My guess would be somewhere in the 50s.

[easternshore97]

percy harvin was in MVP discussions until he got hurt. Jones isn't even in the same ball park as harvin

I totally missed that part of the season

[codizzle]

Agreed. That was my initial thought. But I thought it was about Best Players. Jacoby had 3 return TDs while contributing on offense, albeit not a whole lot, but just enough. That's the same reason why Percy Harvin makes the list, because of a broad "skillset"

Right?

Harvin is the complete package though.. Jacoby had never really developed as a strong WR

[msufan]

Jacoby probably doesn't deserve to be on the list for being a WR, but as a returner he does.

[Corvus]

Can't believe all of you guys ragging on Jacoby for his peers voting him on this list, sounds like the hacks at NFL.com. One of them was pissing and moaning in the same manner because Harvin was ranked 90th and Jones ranked 88th (and over a 2 rank differential? Give me a break). Jacoby is far from being one of the 100 "best" players in the league in my opinion as well, but I'm pretty sure this list is based on what you have done recently and what you are expected to do the upcoming season in the players' peers' eyes. Players most recent memories of Harvin? Getting injured and demanding a trade because you're a headcase with an inflated sense of self since Brett favre helped you become offensive rookie of the year. Jacoby was a pro bowl return specialist this year and made 3 absolutely massive plays to help our team become world champions. Which do you think caught the attention of their peers better? Harvin may be the more talented player, but Jacoby's clutch genes were on full showcase ALL season, its a no brainer that he cracked the list this year if you look at it objectively. The whole point of this list since its inception a few years a go is the players' opinions, not the pundits and fans playing favorites.

Also, Harvin is not the "total package." He makes his living within ten yards of the LOS. Nothing wrong with that, but I guarantee you if you looked up his catches of 20yds or more (in the air, not counting YAC because that's where he is dangerous, in space and racking up YAC), you would be disappointed in the numbers.

[NaveSenrag]

Harbs is the one who fired him Mr. Genius.
 
:rolleyes:

He was also the one who hired him.

Also, I don't like that some players get highlight reels, and some just get videos of them talking to the fools at NFLN.