Amplus' Top Ten

[The Oakland Cathedral]

The Bengals easily have a top 10 O-line. Albert is a very good LT, Warford is a plug and play OG, Robinson was the best rookie center in the league last year if I remember correctly and he has a bright future as such. Zeitler was a top 10 OG in the NFL, and Armstead should be able to handle RT duties with Zeitler next to him covering up some of his flaws. If not Wharton and Otto could easily play RT as a substitute. Reynolds also play anywhere on the interior line so I have solid depth overall, and a very good starting group.

[Yatagarasu]

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The Bengals easily have a top 10 O-line. Albert is a very good LT, Warford is a plug and play OG, Robinson was the best rookie center in the league last year if I remember correctly and he has a bright future as such. Zeitler was a top 10 OG in the NFL, and Armstead should be able to handle RT duties with Zeitler next to him covering up some of his flaws. If not Wharton and Otto could easily play RT as a substitute. Reynolds also play anywhere on the interior line so I have solid depth overall, and a very good starting group.
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Who should I take out of the top ten? and why that team?

[Yatagarasu]

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2013/01/28/ranking-the-2012-offensive-lines/4/

[Mt. Crushmore]

My OL and WR/TE corps at least deserve a mention. No way they are bottom 5 in the league.

[Yatagarasu]

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My OL and WR/TE corps at least deserve a mention. No way they are bottom 5 in the league.
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Congrats your WR/TE barely past the bottom 5.

Your OL has been upgraded to borderline top ten because you had an above average group last year and upgrade Chris Hairston with Riley Reiff.

[GrimCoconut]

Here is how I rank them & my reasons, Corvus:

1. Green Bay Packers: as impressive as New Orleans WRs are, I am more impressed by a corps of Cobb, Nelson, Welker, Jones & Finley at TE. Those guys are all proven WRs who have really began to make a name for themselves or have a name for themselves. Having Aaron throwing them the ball doesn't hurt at all.

2. New Orleans Saints: Colston, Williams, Bryant & Shorts is a nice corps. But for me, I see what the Packers have as better. I like Dez and he has really started to prove his status, but those guys the Packers have are no joke.

3. Atlanta Falcons: Julio Jones is legit. White is beginning to slow down but is still a beast. Gonzalez & Keller are legit weapons at TE. Bennett is good but when I compare him to the other WR corps as a 3rd WR he isn't as good as what NO & GB have. Same goes for Hamilton, who I love but I can't justify a rookie WR as catapulting them up the ranks.

4. Philadelphia Eagles: this one took me some time. I really debated this. But here is why I honestly believe they deserve #4. They have freaking Chip Kelly coaching that team with Vick, Manuel & Foles at QB. That's some depth, man. Maclin & Jackson are legit. Avant is very good. Reed is a great TE for them. Don't they have Celek as well??? Am I missing something there?

5. Detroit Lions: Megatron is the best WR in football. Britt is a fantastic complement opposite of him. Stedman in the slot, even if he isn't as good as I believe & even with him being a rookie I can't say that he will do bad with Megatron & Britt surely commanding great attention. Fauria is really a non-factor to me here.

6. New England Patriots: the WR corps is really poor from what you showed me. I can't believe that's all they have. I need to look at their depth chart. Hernandez is a legit TE & so is Gronk, but they have both had health issues so I might have to drop them further. They have Brady throwing the ball, so they have to be top-10 regardless because he's Tom Brady. You can't deny his talent there. Bess & Edwards are both good and I believe would benefit from Brady.

This is where it gets really hard.

Giants: They have no depth outside of their top-3 guys. They have an unproven TE starting. That's terrible. I'm sorry. Pittsburgh, Titans, Bengals deserve to be above them easily. Possibly others.

Bears: I like the Bears, but what do they have outside of Brandon Marshall? Jeffrey is a talented WR but has done nothing so far. Austin is the same. Both are completely unproven. Take into account that they aren't playing a position that translates easier to the NFL (LB, for instance) and you have some questions. WR is a position that takes time. I think you can make a case for the Ravens being above them. Absolutely.

Colts: they deserve to be borderline 10 or top-10, due to Luck, Wayne, Miller, Allen, & Hilton. I don't know about LaFell.

I think you can make a case for the Titans to be much higher than that. I'm trying to not be biased, either.

Vincent Brown is a really talented WR who has produced pretty well for the Chargers.
Heath Miller is/was Big Ben's security blanket.
Delanie Walker is a good blocker, not the best receiver but he has done OK in that regard.
Aaron Dobson & Keenan Allen, as talented as they are, are very unproven so I can't consider them too much.
Kendall Wright was extremely impressive last year in the limited role he had where he wasn't properly used. He has legit #1 talent.
Marvin Jones is also an impressive WR from last year, one who should perform well with having his old pal Keenan Allen on the field next to him.

[-Truth-]

You've left out Jimmy Graham, who's one of my most important pieces. Just my opinion, but I also don't necessarily see the reasoning stated for the exclusion. You stated that, "Those guys are all proven WRs who have really began to make a name for themselves or have a name for themselves. Having Aaron throwing them the ball doesn't hurt at all," and, "those guys the Packers have are no joke." The identical statements can easily be used to describe my current corps when replacing the words Aaron and Packers with Drew and Saints.

[-Truth-]

[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]You've left out Jimmy Graham, who's one of my most important pieces. Just my opinion, but I also don't necessarily see the reasoning for the exclusion. You stated that, "Those guys are all proven WRs who have really began to make a name for themselves or have a name for themselves. Having Aaron throwing them the ball doesn't hurt at all," and, "those guys the Packers have are no joke." The identical statements can easily be used to describe my current corps when replacing the words Aaron and Packers with Drew and Saints.[/font][/color]

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='-Truth-' timestamp='1365800918' post='1431971']
[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]You've left out Jimmy Graham, who's one of my most important pieces. Just my opinion, but I also don't necessarily see the reasoning for the exclusion. You stated that, "Those guys are all proven WRs who have really began to make a name for themselves or have a name for themselves. Having Aaron throwing them the ball doesn't hurt at all," and, "those guys the Packers have are no joke." The identical statements can easily be used to describe my current corps when replacing the words Aaron and Packers with Drew and Saints.[/font][/color]
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I honestly forgot about Graham. That shouldn't be too hard to understand. It's clearly a simple mistake.

That's true regarding Aaron & Drew, but if it's me I prefer Aaron to Drew due to age as well as the player. Aaron can scramble. I don't see that same ability from Brees.

I like the corps of the Packers better than the Saints. Not just because of the players, but the familiarity. Those players know each other. It's intact. There's something to be said about feeding off of each other. I think that group would feed off of each other better than yours.

[-Truth-]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1365801062' post='1431975']
I honestly forgot about Graham. That shouldn't be too hard to understand. It's clearly a simple mistake.
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Happens to the best of us. I actually forgot about Carlos Dunlap...after trading for him lol Best surprise I've had during this process.

[GrimCoconut]

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Happens to the best of us. I actually forgot about Carlos Dunlap after trading for him lol
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Sure does. I try to reference the posts, but it's hard on mobile. Anyway, go look at my edited post for further argument.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1365784082' post='1431742']

Not in this mock. He is not retired. He is still playing. I have said multiple times that Birk would have been effective if he played this year. He impressed me & coach kept saying how good he is. I think he retired because he won his ring & he didn't want to play elsewhere. He probably saw the writing on the wall of the youth movement & left voluntarily.
[/quote]but when we simulate this in.madden to see who won birk won't be there

[Yatagarasu]

If you guys have any comments, criticisms, or anything on the assessments of the rankings, please post in this type of format, so I can track and collect information quickly.

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[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

Danario Alexander is my 4th WR option (Not including Gates), not my 2nd option.

It goes Wallace, Floyd, Simpson, Alexander

My fault for not posting my D/C

[Clutch Ravens]

[quote name='BALTIMOREFLACCO' timestamp='1365957657' post='1433439']
Danario Alexander is my 4th WR option (Not including Gates), not my 2nd option.

It goes Wallace, Floyd, Simpson, Alexander

My fault for not posting my D/C
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Really? I'd argue that Alexander has way more talent than Floyd and Simpson combined. He's a legitimate #1 when healthy, in my opinion.

[GrimCoconut]

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Really? I'd argue that Alexander has way more talent than Floyd and Simpson combined. He's a legitimate #1 when healthy, in my opinion.
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I don't know about more talent than Floyd, but he is definitely a talented WR who has legit #1 potential for sure. I definitely agree regarding Simpson.

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

[quote name='Clutch Ravens' timestamp='1365968944' post='1433545']
Really? I'd argue that Alexander has way more talent than Floyd and Simpson combined. He's a legitimate #1 when healthy, in my opinion.
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Possibly

[GrimCoconut]

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Possibly
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If he sees he field. I can always take a #3 WR off your hands. I mean, with Floyd & Simpson you really don't need Alexander. How about I send you a WR for him? Maybe even a RB & WR? You know, fit that run game & passing game?

I'm thinking LeGarrette Blount & Spurlock who is a beast of a return man for Alexander.

Danario is no good to you on the IR list, after all.

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1365970376' post='1433559']
If he sees he field. I can always take a #3 WR off your hands. I mean, with Floyd & Simpson you really don't need Alexander. How about I send you a WR for him? Maybe even a RB & WR? You know, fit that run game & passing game?

I'm thinking LeGarrette Blount & Spurlock who is a beast of a return man for Alexander.

Danario is no good to you on the IR list, after all.
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Good try but I'll let DA compete in TC lol

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='BALTIMOREFLACCO' timestamp='1365970941' post='1433562']


Good try but I'll let DA compete in TC lol
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You want Chase Daniels, too? He's a good QB.

Okay! Okay! You strike a hard bargain!

Tennessee Gets:
Injured WR who may never see the field Danario Alexander

SD Gets:
Elite QB Chase Daniels
Elite All-Pro RB LeGarrette Blount
Elite WR/Return Specialist Pro Bowl player Michael Spurlock

All three of those guys are future Hall of Famers!

[ravensdan]

[quote name='Clutch Ravens' timestamp='1365968944' post='1433545']
Really? I'd argue that Alexander has way more talent than Floyd and Simpson combined. He's a legitimate #1 when healthy, in my opinion.
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let's be real, Floyd, Alexander and Simpson have all been underwhelming... maybe that is directly due to Rivers down year and offensive line and running woes, but none of those guys has performed up to their expectations. personally I would have cleaned house of those guys and start over from scratch, to me the Chargers are in need of a complete overhaul.

[-Truth-]

I don't mean to pry, but if San Francisco is starting Daniel Kilgore at Center, then I should definitely have the top spot among OL units. Brian De La Puente has quietly been among the best in the NFL, and Kilgore is a complete unknown at this point. Also, the New York Jets landed Sims to take over at RG, who was outstanding last season, so this should help them with their OL and RB rankings. Lastly, Jed Collins has been arguably one of the best blocking FBs over the past two seasons, so he deserves a mention. As does newly added Andre Brown. Just a heads up.

[codizzle]

Upgrade the OL which was the number one rushing offense and get ranked mid 20's..

Well that's cute

[The Oakland Cathedral]

I think the broncos might be a bit high in the Receiving corp rankings. I also thing the bengals should be a bit higher since they have a top 5 WR in the nfl and another top flight WR in Austin plus a lot of young talent. They also have a top 5 TE tandem easily with Gresham and Allen

[Mt. Crushmore]

I think the broncos might be a bit high in the Receiving corp rankings. I also thing the bengals should be a bit higher since they have a top 5 WR in the nfl and another top flight WR in Austin plus a lot of young talent. They also have a top 5 TE tandem easily with Gresham and Allen

 

I like how you cut Austin for like 6.5 stars and then re-signed him for 13.5 stars.

[GrimCoconut]

I like how you cut Austin for like 6.5 stars and then re-signed him for 13.5 stars.

What's the problem? Austin was holding out. Said he was underpaid. So, he got pay raise to reduce the cap hit next year.

[The Oakland Cathedral]

I like how you cut Austin for like 6.5 stars and then re-signed him for 13.5 stars.

Ya well I had hoped to get 2 big time DB's at that time but then got burned. Oh well haha. I made a mistake, it happens.

[GrimCoconut]

I think my RB rating should go up with the acquisition of Ivory. He's a beast. My LB corps depth has been addressed with all the moves I made, both FA & UDFA in addition to the Draft.

I even got a really good returner with great receiving skills in Tobais Palmer.

Love my depth.

[arnie_uk]

Dd you drop my oline? Can't agree with that at all

[-Truth-]

Ya well I had hoped to get 2 big time DB's at that time but then got burned. Oh well haha. I made a mistake, it happens.

 

Sorry about that. As soon as I saw your cap room and Cleveland's, I knew that Kenny Phillips would be under fire. I had nearly 10 Stars to shell out for him, but I had to pray that you'd have bet on another player and therefore couldn't match it at the time.