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Last Years Defense vs. This Years Defense

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  1. 1. Do you think this years Defense will be better than last years?

    • Yes- the additions of DOOM, Canty, Spears, Huff, and the healthy returns of Sizzle, Ngata, Webb, and Smith will be dangerous
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    • Maybe- Depends on what we do in the draft
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    • No Way- The loss of leadership that Lewis, Reed, Pollard and others brought will be to major to overcome
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With the new additions that THE wizard of OZ has brought in to replace the losses suffered in free agency to our defense, Im starting to become very confident that this years D will be better than last years. Pees now has a year experience to work with and the additions of Canty and Spears on the D- Line will give Pees the freedom to let Ngata, Suggs, Upshaw and Doom to roam and create havoc. Another relief is the fact that we wont have to see C.Williams getting burnt on every play with the occasional interception that made the media blind to how bad he truly was in coverage. Granted he wasn't half as bad as a Frank Walker... I think if Jimmy Smith is healthy, he will be a major improvement, Also, with the addition of Huff at one Safety position, and a healthy Webb and Graham, I think with an addition of say a Matt Elam or Johnathon Cyprien would make the secondary much better than last years. While we all love REEEEED, he obviously wasn't the all world safety we were accustomed to. He didn't have that closing speed and was always hesitant on making solid tackles. Huff doesn't have that problem. With an upgraded D-Line and Secondary, the only question left is the hole left in the middle. I think we end up drafting a couple ILB s and add a veteran such as Dansby. While the loss of Ray Ray's Leadership will be big, I think next years D will be head and shoulders over last years. What do you think?
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I think it's a bit early to say,theres no telling how the new additions will pan out in a different scheme. But on paper the roster looks really good. Pretty excited about it..

And at the price they paid? Genius moves by Oz and Co.
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It sure looks like this defense will be better, but you don't win on paper. Right now, I would say it's better even with a weak ILB corps.
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[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1364410662' post='1417475']
It sure looks like this defense will be better, but you don't win on paper. Right now, I would say it's better even with a weak ILB corps.
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I agree. D-line is better; OLB is better; CB is better with healthy Webb; Safety is about equal. However, we cannot track the intangibles that we lost with Lewis, Reed, etc. on paper. The defense looks better and has a good chance to rank better, but last year's defense had a will to get it done when we needed it most. I hope we still have that.
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Last year's defense wasn't good.

So yeah, not hard to be better than that. What I want them to reach for though is for them to continue the tradition of having a top 10 ranked defense in Baltimore.

Last year was an embarrassment defensively.
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The offseason is all about "on paper", but I do believe that we have a better D now. Remember, we had a ton of injuries last year and players who were playing hurt as well on our D. But I will do a little breakdown here.

D-Line: Much better, if Ngata comes back to his pre-injury self. The additions of Canty and Spears gives us a beefed up line who can stop the run, unlike last year. McPhee will be healthy and may be back to his old dangerous self. Ngata will be healthy and he is a force to be reckoned with when he is at 100%. Art Jones is an up-and-coming player who made some good plays in the super bowl and throughout the playoffs. We will likely add a NT to complete the D Line. Advantage, 2013 Ravens.

LB: As far as outside linebackers go, we are vastly improved here. Suggs should be fully healthy and driven to produce as high as he possibly can with Dumervil pushing him on the other side. Upshaw is learning the game and will be a force in the run stopping aspect of the D, and has potential to put up some sack numbers as well. Doom is a beast, and is a clear upgrade over that guy who went to the Brown Craphole of Cleveland. Lets not forget that we have some nice depth in Hamilton/McClellan/McAdoo. Inside wise, we have a ton of question marks here, as we lost both The Landshark and Ellerbe in the same offseason. However, Ozz is a genius, and I have no doubt that whoever we draft at this position will produce for us in some way, so not all is lost. I'm giving this one a push here, as we are much better at OLB with Doom/healthy Suggs/Upshaw's development, but worse at ILB because of all the question marks.

DB's: Corner wise, we should be better with Webb coming back. Sure we lost Cary Williams, but Jimmy Smith will look to step it up this coming season, and did so in the Super Bowl. Corey Graham is not someone to look over, as he is a game changer. Asa Jackson/Chykie Brown are good up and coming players as well. Safety wise, I'd say that we are at a push here. Huff is better than Reed is at this point in Reed's career. However, Pollard (also one of my fave players) was cut this year. This makes the SS spot a bit of a question mark, but we do have players who can step up into that role. Ihedigbo/Thompson can be solid players if given a chance.

So overall, I think we are better. We are better at DL/OLB/CB, but have questions at SS/ILB.
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Dumerville for Kruger.
Huff for Reed.
Webb for Cary Williams.
McClain for Ellerbe.
Healthy Suggs for injured Suggs.
Healthy Ngata for injured Ngata.
Ray Lewis left.
Pollard left.

Yeah, as long as we aren't as beat up this year we're better already.
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[quote name='mgridda' timestamp='1364411550' post='1417497']
Last year was an embarrassment defensively.
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This^
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I like the off season defensive free agents we picked up but I am still baffled by what we are going to do with the offense. Boldin as like Reed and Lewis in that He has the it factor and helped as much in the run as he did when clutch catches needed to be made. We still have Pitta as a poss type guy but I don't think he can produce like Boldin. It looks like we are hoping that we can win with speed and hopefully Doss can step up and be the next Boldin... that's my big question mark along with whose going to play LT. I am OK with the defensive transition we are going with vets and young guys but vets that are not on the wrong side of the hill.
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[quote name='zac_fuller' timestamp='1364409433' post='1417413']
With the new additions that THE wizard of OZ has brought in to replace the losses suffered in free agency to our defense, Im starting to become very confident that this years D will be better than last years. Pees now has a year experience to work with and the additions of Canty and Spears on the D- Line will give Pees the freedom to let Ngata, Suggs, Upshaw and Doom to roam and create havoc. Another relief is the fact that we wont have to see C.Williams getting burnt on every play with the occasional interception that made the media blind to how bad he truly was in coverage. Granted he wasn't half as bad as a Frank Walker... I think if Jimmy Smith is healthy, he will be a major improvement, Also, with the addition of Huff at one Safety position, and a healthy Webb and Graham, I think with an addition of say a Matt Elam or Johnathon Cyprien would make the secondary much better than last years. While we all love REEEEED, he obviously wasn't the all world safety we were accustomed to. He didn't have that closing speed and was always hesitant on making solid tackles. Huff doesn't have that problem. With an upgraded D-Line and Secondary, the only question left is the hole left in the middle. I think we end up drafting a couple ILB s and add a veteran such as Dansby. While the loss of Ray Ray's Leadership will be big, I think next years D will be head and shoulders over last years. What do you think?
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Thank you for saying that, Frank Walker should still be on somebodies practice squad the way he played but yes, there is a strong feeling that the 2013 Ravens will be very strong on both D and O. This is the kind of team that is really scary because just like the Colts of the mid 2000's, they had a lot of fire power and once you started to fall behind in points, the D would pin their ears back and it would basically be over from there. I feel this Ravens team is starting to look a lot like that type of team. If Flacco and the offense can keep points high on the board, expect a monster year from T-Sizzle and Evlis(AKA Doom & Boom).
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[quote name='dhstandard' timestamp='1364414267' post='1417570']
Dude it's march.
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dude its hypothetical
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[i][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]On paper it looks better but on the field we really can't tell yet.According to Pees,the biggest thing was to make sure everyone is lined up correctly.Well we lost 2 field generals and a sargent(Ellerbee) who knew where guys should be.Who on this defense will do that now?[/font][/i]
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Jameel Mcclain knows where people should line up. He's not going to see what Ray Lewis would see [I imagine Ray texting on the set to Dean Pees though every Sunday, lol]
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Can't get much worse!! But im sure we can agree that Charlie Batch will not be beating this D again! Also with the additions of Canty, Spears and some draft picks i doubt we will se games like the Cowboys and Texans either! So yes this D is far better in my eyes, also just picture 2 safeties that can both cover and tackle.....
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Yes. At this moment I think our defense will be better then last years. I'm also going off of the trust I have in Ozzie, in which I believe he nails this upcoming draft.
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Entirely too early to tell. On paper it looks like if we're healthy we'll be just as good. But who knows how all of these new guys are going to mesh. This will be the first year our defense will not have a Ray Lewis or an Ed Reed leading the D in our franchises history. I'm a bit skeptical about our D. We've lost 5 out of our 11 starters. It will be a transition definitely. I believe that our Offense will have to carry us until our Defensive unit get's valuable playing time w/ one another uner their belts'
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Some one said some where else on here
"Steven Hawking could run on our D"

Its rude and inappropriate but also funny and just slightly accurate.

Our D was weak last season cept' for the last few weeks.

On paper this D looks outstanding,
On paper.....
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[quote name='K-Dog' timestamp='1364427880' post='1417912']
Some one said some where else on here
"Steven Hawking could run on our D"

Its rude and inappropriate but also funny and just slightly accurate.

Our D was weak last season cept' for the last few weeks.

On paper this D looks outstanding,
On paper.....
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We lost a lot of good players, but with those good players the d was still the worst defensive unit i've seen us have in over a decade. In all honesty, I don't think its possible for the D to play worse even with the departures, so it probably just doesn't matter. I think the D will struggle for the next year or two until Harbs is forced to fire the root of the problem, Dean Pees.
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[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1364412544' post='1417531']
Dumerville for Kruger.
Huff for Reed.
Webb for Cary Williams.
McClain for Ellerbe.
Healthy Suggs for injured Suggs.
Healthy Ngata for injured Ngata.
Ray Lewis left.
Pollard left.

Yeah, as long as we aren't as beat up this year we're better already.
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I believe we may have the more talented and healthy team next year, though beneath it all in the back of our minds is the fact that a Super Bowl repeat has only happened what, 3 times? And one doesn't count because the team cheated.
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[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1364841297' post='1421728']
We lost a lot of good players, but with those good players the d was still the worst defensive unit i've seen us have in over a decade. In all honesty, I don't think its possible for the D to play worse even with the departures, so it probably just doesn't matter. I think the D will struggle for the next year or two until Harbs is forced to fire the root of the problem, Dean Pees.
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And what makes you think that this D will be bad?
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[quote name='display name' timestamp='1364845142' post='1421860']
I believe we may have the more talented and healthy team next year, though beneath it all in the back of our minds is the fact that a Super Bowl repeat has only happened what, 3 times? And one doesn't count because the team cheated.
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It has happened eight times. Packers, Dolphins, Steelers x2, 49ers, Cowboys, Broncos, Patriots. So it is far from impossible, but still a tall task.
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[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1364841297' post='1421728']
We lost a lot of good players, but with those good players the d was still the worst defensive unit i've seen us have in over a decade. In all honesty, I don't think its possible for the D to play worse even with the departures, so it probably just doesn't matter. I think the D will struggle for the next year or two until Harbs is forced to fire the root of the problem, Dean Pees.
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I thought Dean was the problem at the start of the year when we were giving up a lot of running yards. As the season progressed the running yards got a little smaller. Our redzone defense was one of the best we've ever had here. If you have all of our injured players healthy this year and our younger players with another year under their belt will have our defense get better. We get one or 2 mlb that are faster than we had last year and a safety who's better in coverage than Pollard and we have the chance to be a pretty special defense. We will need to get an offensive weapon to help out Smith, Rice, and Pitta so we're not going 3 and out and keeping our defense on the field.
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[quote name='display name' timestamp='1364845181' post='1421862']
And what makes you think that this D will be bad?
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Because Dean Pees has no business coordinating in the NFL
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[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1364851980' post='1421994']
Because Dean Pees has no business coordinating in the NFL
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I don't know about all that. I've been very critical of Pees but there are some absolute garbage/horse crap DCs in the NFL out there. Guys that are just straight up bad. Pees has faults, but I'd take him over a fair chunk of NFL DCs out there right now.

If Pees is as garbage as you think he is then it will show this year relatively early because he has the horses to work with this year. I can't put the whole season on his shoulders considering Webb/Lewis/Suggs all missed parts of the season, Ngata wasn't healthy past week 5, and Pollard broke his ribs in week 2. Outside of Reed, who has not been the Reed we loved for the last two years, that's essentially all of the playmakers Pees was working with.

His AFC Champ game plan and Super Bowl game plan as far as I'm concerned were spot on. The blackout and exhaustion caught up to the defense in the second half.
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[quote name='beanfigger' timestamp='1364846893' post='1421903']
It has happened eight times. Packers, Dolphins, Steelers x2, 49ers, Cowboys, Broncos, Patriots. So it is far from impossible, but still a tall task.
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Think he meant post FA starting up. Which would be only twice since then I think. Broncos and Patriots, and the Patriots were caught cheating.
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[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1364852860' post='1422009']
I don't know about all that. I've been very critical of Pees but there are some absolute garbage/horse crap DCs in the NFL out there. Guys that are just straight up bad. Pees has faults, but I'd take him over a fair chunk of NFL DCs out there right now.
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I hear you. Im just used to the Ravens hiring good DCs or even promoting candidates into first time coordinators, not a rejected bum from another team. Guess i'll just never get used to accepting a middle of the pack defense like other franchises.

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1364852860' post='1422009']
If Pees is as garbage as you think he is then it will show this year relatively early because he has the horses to work with this year. I can't put the whole season on his shoulders considering Webb/Lewis/Suggs all missed parts of the season, Ngata wasn't healthy past week 5, and Pollard broke his ribs in week 2. Outside of Reed, who has not been the Reed we loved for the last two years, that's essentially all of the playmakers Pees was working with.

His AFC Champ game plan and Super Bowl game plan as far as I'm concerned were spot on. The blackout and exhaustion caught up to the defense in the second half.
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Watch, next year the excuse will be hey they are all inexperienced, or just learning, or they lost a lot of good players, it couldn't have been Pees fault.
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I like the moves that have been made so far and am looking forward to next year. If we can make another Super Bowl run without a top ranked defense, it is okay with me.
"Just Win baby"
Al Davis
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[quote name='K-Dog' timestamp='1364427880' post='1417912']
Some one said some where else on here
"Steven Hawking could run on our D"

Its rude and inappropriate but also funny and just slightly accurate.

Our D was weak last season cept' for the last few weeks.

On paper this D looks outstanding,
On paper.....
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finding a funny joke that isn't at someone/somethings expense is harder than the concepts Stephen Hawkings comprehends.
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[quote name='black blood purple passion' timestamp='1364860325' post='1422102']
finding a funny joke that isn't at someone/somethings expense is harder than the concepts Stephen Hawkings comprehends.
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Ironically the joke is at the expense of our defense.
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[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1364857678' post='1422078']
Watch, next year the excuse will be hey they are all inexperienced, or just learning, or they lost a lot of good players, it couldn't have been Pees fault.
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There will be no excuse IMO if the defense struggles outside of the first couple of weeks. If so, I'll clamour for his dismissal and Brooks' or Austin's promotion. Like I said, he has the horses this year, and all off season to make sure they know the playbook. No excuses for me.
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[quote name='K-Dog' timestamp='1364863464' post='1422147']
Ironically the joke is at the expense of our defense.
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definitely a bizarre feeling after so many years of dominance, I was definitely pulling the hair out of my head at times last year especially with the run D. I think beefing up our D line will have a domino effect on our defence that'll see everyones performance increase.
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Let's not forget - the defense did really pick it up near the end of the year. We were ranked high twenties then in the last 6 weeks got up to 17. That means we performed far above what we were doing, so Pees got going once injuries faded off.

Pittsburgh had the top ranked defense, we let in as many touchdowns as them. One of the perks of having a good offense is we don't have to rely solely on having a top 5 D anymore. I'd say with the loss of Q, if our D lands somewhere between 10 and 15 and our O stays on pace we will be in a really good spot.

If a d let people pass 870 yards per game but only let in 1TD per game, you'd be pretty darn happy, right? The most important stat is to win, and if some combo of where the O is now and the D is now lets us do that, then I say eff the rankings. They're fun to watch and brag about, but the Lombardi trumps all...as we showed this year.
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[quote name='youne' timestamp='1364881942' post='1422366']
Let's not forget - the defense did really pick it up near the end of the year. We were ranked high twenties then in the last 6 weeks got up to 17. That means we performed far above what we were doing, so Pees got going once injuries faded off.

Pittsburgh had the top ranked defense, we let in as many touchdowns as them. One of the perks of having a good offense is we don't have to rely solely on having a top 5 D anymore. I'd say with the loss of Q, if our D lands somewhere between 10 and 15 and our O stays on pace we will be in a really good spot.

If a d let people pass 870 yards per game but only let in 1TD per game, you'd be pretty darn happy, right? The most important stat is to win, and if some combo of where the O is now and the D is now lets us do that, then I say eff the rankings. They're fun to watch and brag about, but the Lombardi trumps all...as we showed this year.
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[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1364851980' post='1421994']
Because Dean Pees has no business coordinating in the NFL
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Last years defense might not have been so good as we are used to, but stating that Dean Pees has no business being a DC is a bit... harsh to say at least.
He was the DC in New England Patriots from 2006-2009 and he fielded units that ranked as following:

2006: 2nd in pts and 6th in yards.
2007: 4th in pts and 4th in yards.
2008: 8th in pts and 10th in yards.
2009: 5th in pts and 11th in yards.

This is per pro-football-reference.com. I would say that it really wasn't that bad especially if you look at the 2005 season for Patriots when they were 17th in pts and 26th in yards. Do I miss Chuck? Hell yeah, but Dean Pees is definitely an underrated DC and he wasn't rejected in New England, it was his own choice to come to Baltimore as I recall it.
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[quote name='PurpleCityLights' timestamp='1364916737' post='1422591']
BTW we have a strong Pass Rush now & with the Brady rule gone........QB's are in trouble;-)
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Lol, I know it's easy to confuse the Tuck Rule & the Brady Rule, but they are not the same. The Brady Rule prevents defenders from lunging at the QB when they are knocked to the ground. It was designed to prevent injuries like Brady sustained when he tore his ACL in early 2008.

A lot of people confuse these rules but they aren't the same.
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[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1364924534' post='1422734']
Lol, I know it's easy to confuse the Tuck Rule & the Brady Rule, but they are not the same. The Brady Rule prevents defenders from lunging at the QB when they are knocked to the ground. It was designed to prevent injuries like Brady sustained when he tore his ACL in early 2008.

A lot of people confuse these rules but they aren't the same.
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I wonder if the Hall of Fame committee considers how many new rules a single player is responsible for when electing new members. If Brady gets a few more before retiring, the new Brady rule might be electing him in his first offseason of retirement. Why not? They change tradition all the time for him, anyway.
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[quote name='sameoldbull' timestamp='1364914531' post='1422565']
Last years defense might not have been so good as we are used to, but stating that Dean Pees has no business being a DC is a bit... harsh to say at least.
He was the DC in New England Patriots from 2006-2009 and he fielded units that ranked as following:

2006: 2nd in pts and 6th in yards.
2007: 4th in pts and 4th in yards.
2008: 8th in pts and 10th in yards.
2009: 5th in pts and 11th in yards.

This is per pro-football-reference.com. I would say that it really wasn't that bad especially if you look at the 2005 season for Patriots when they were 17th in pts and 26th in yards. Do I miss Chuck? Hell yeah, but Dean Pees is definitely an underrated DC and he wasn't rejected in New England, it was his own choice to come to Baltimore as I recall it.
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He was fired by Bill Bellichick, Harbs and Pees were buddies and he jumped at the chance to bring him in as a LBs coach.
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[size=3][font=georgia, serif][quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1364928877' post='1422824']
He was fired by Bill Bellichick, Harbs and Pees were buddies and he jumped at the chance to bring him in as a LBs coach.
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[size=3][font=georgia, serif]His contract was up and he simply didn't want to renew it. It was his own personal choice. It was a mutual parting with multiple factors (Health, disagreeing on defensive philosophy, the environment or whatsoever).[/font][/size]
[size=3][font=georgia, serif]Anyways this is from his official statement:[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=georgia, serif][color=#333333]"My contract with the New England Patriots will expire in a couple of weeks and I have informed Mr. Kraft and Coach Belichick that I will not seek to renew it. I enjoyed my time in New England, but feel this is the right time to pursue other opportunities. I had the privilege of working with some great coaches and great players over the past six seasons and leave the Patriots with some wonderful memories that will last a lifetime. In addition to the players and coaching staff, I want to thank the Kraft family, the media and the fans for all of their support."[/color][/font][/size]
[size=3][font=georgia, serif][color=#333333]From this article: [/color]http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nfl/news/story?id=4826721PP[/font][/size]

[size=3][font=georgia, serif]And I acknowledge that he and Harbaugh are buddies, sure that is true. But he wasn't fired. But please tell me why Dean Pees has nothing to do as a DC in the NFL? Your argument is that he was fired. By following your logic a lot of coaches shouldn't be in the NFL any longer. Heck even Bill Belichick was fired once (by ourself).[/font][/size]
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[center][b][u]Front Seven:[/u][/b][/center]

[center]-----Jones--Ngata--Canty-----[/center]

[center]--Dumervil--McClain--BPA--Suggs----[/center]

[b][u]DL Depth:[/u] [/b]Spears (All Roles), McPhee (Nickel), Cody (NT), Tyson (Depth)

[b][u]LB Depth:[/u][/b] Upshaw (Possible Joker), Ayabedejo (STer), McClellan (ILB), Bynes (ILB), Carr (ILB), Hamilton (ST/OLB), McAdoo (Developmental)

[b][u]Conclusions:[/u][/b]

Our D-line depth is good with a solid depth player in Spears, a impact rusher like McPhee, and some depth in Cody and Tyson.

Our LB Depth is thin because we have a lot of unproven and young players. Ozzie will play this out to training to see who is worthly of making the team, so this will be a whole offseason process, but we do need to talent in the ILB spots, which will be addressed in the Draft.

[u][b]ILB Draftees:[/b][/u]
Arthur Brown - top ILB
Alec Olgetree - borderline 1st round - Elite coverage LB
Kevin Minter - 2nd Round - Instinctual MLB, but is not an elite athlete
Mant'i Teo - 2nd Round - Decorated MLB, but is considered slow and have some questions
Kevin Reddick - 3rd Round - Speedy ILB, but struggles against blocks
Gerald Hodges - 3rd Round - Viewed as a 4-3 OLB, but should be able to play 3-4 ILB due to his versatility.
Jon Bostic - 3rd Round - Physical Downhill LB that can also cover
Kiko Alonso - 4th Round - A great coverage ILB
Sean Porter - 4th Round - A speedy LB that has a lot of versatility to fit for the 3-4 ILB positions
A.J. Klein - 4th Round - A tough ILB that can play all 4 downs
Michael Mauti - 5th Round - Injured, but has all the tools to be an effective ILB

[b][u]Opinion:[/u][/b]
There's a lot of talented ILB that we can draft especially in the mid rounds and I wouldn't be surprised if the team double dips ILB players in the mid rounds. The only time we spend a 1st rounder on a LB is if Arthur Brown drops to our trading range or Alec Olgetree is considered a top player, even though he has off-the-field issues. With two drafted ILB, I feel we have a good chance to build a good ILB depth for this upcoming year.
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[b][u]Secondary:[/u][/b]

[u][b]CB:[/b][/u]
Jimmy Smith - First Round Talent that needs to be healthy
Lardarius Webb - Coming back from injury, but is considered our best when healthy
Corey Graham - All-around CB that is effective
Chykie Brown - Good solid Depth
Asa Jackson - Good Potential to be a slot CB

[u][b]Safeties:[/b][/u]
Michael Huff - Starting FS
James Indigbo - Special Teamer that can spot start at SS
Christian Thompson - Developmental Safety that is on 4-game suspension
Omar Brown - Hungry UDFA safety that could develop into a starter

[u][b]Conclusion:[/b][/u]
Our Depth at safety is thin due to the loss of Reed and Pollard. This position is a definite need for our team and will be addressed in the draft.

[u][b]Safety Draftees:[/b][/u]
Kenny Vaccano - 1st Round - Top safety, but will might be too much of price to trade up
John Cyprien - 1st Round - Physical SS that can cover
Matt Elam - 2nd Round - Quick and aggressive SS that can play both roles
Eric Reid - 2nd Round - Prototypical talented FS
D.J. Swearinger - 2nd Round - Underrated Safety that can hit and also cover WR
Philip Thomas - 3rd Round - Underrated, but a possible ball-hawking FS
Shamarko Thomas - 4th Round - Undersized Aggressive SS
Shawn Williams - 4th Round - Another Bernard Pollard Clone that could fill our missing SS spot
J.J. Wilcox - 5th Round - Developmental Safety with a lot of potential
Tony Jefferson - 5th Round - A talented safety that was exposed to be too slow


The safety class is deep this year and the Ravens should be able to get a good player. 2nd Round might be where the value of getting a good safety.
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[quote name='Corvus Amplus' timestamp='1364990012' post='1423447']
[center][b][u]Front Seven:[/u][/b][/center]

[center]-----Jones--Ngata--Canty-----[/center]

[center]--Dumervil--McClain--BPA--Suggs----[/center]

[b][u]DL Depth:[/u] [/b]Spears (All Roles), McPhee (Nickel), Cody (NT), Tyson (Depth)

[b][u]LB Depth:[/u][/b] Upshaw (Possible Joker), Ayabedejo (STer), McClellan (ILB), Bynes (ILB), Carr (ILB), Hamilton (ST/OLB), McAdoo (Developmental)

[b][u]Conclusions:[/u][/b]

Our D-line depth is good with a solid depth player in Spears, a impact rusher like McPhee, and some depth in Cody and Tyson.

Our LB Depth is thin because we have a lot of unproven and young players. Ozzie will play this out to training to see who is worthly of making the team, so this will be a whole offseason process, but we do need to talent in the ILB spots, which will be addressed in the Draft.

[u][b]ILB Draftees:[/b][/u]
Arthur Brown - top ILB
Alec Olgetree - borderline 1st round - Elite coverage LB
Kevin Minter - 2nd Round - Instinctual MLB, but is not an elite athlete
Mant'i Teo - 2nd Round - Decorated MLB, but is considered slow and have some questions
Kevin Reddick - 3rd Round - Speedy ILB, but struggles against blocks
Gerald Hodges - 3rd Round - Viewed as a 4-3 OLB, but should be able to play 3-4 ILB due to his versatility.
Jon Bostic - 3rd Round - Physical Downhill LB that can also cover
Kiko Alonso - 4th Round - A great coverage ILB
Sean Porter - 4th Round - A speedy LB that has a lot of versatility to fit for the 3-4 ILB positions
A.J. Klein - 4th Round - A tough ILB that can play all 4 downs
Michael Mauti - 5th Round - Injured, but has all the tools to be an effective ILB

[b][u]Opinion:[/u][/b]
There's a lot of talented ILB that we can draft especially in the mid rounds and I wouldn't be surprised if the team double dips ILB players in the mid rounds. The only time we spend a 1st rounder on a LB is if Arthur Brown drops to our trading range or Alec Olgetree is considered a top player, even though he has off-the-field issues. With two drafted ILB, I feel we have a good chance to build a good ILB depth for this upcoming year.
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i doubt mcclain plays next year
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[quote name='justifythegame' timestamp='1365008910' post='1423659']
i doubt mcclain plays next year
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Ayanbedejo's time in Baltimore is probably up, so maybe he can see some time on special teams. If we do draft somebody at MLB, they may be ready to start at day one or they may not be ready. McClain can mentor whomever that person is.
McClain, in my opinion, has always been a solid presence. He can also replace Ellerbe, because we do run a 3-4, so their are two starting spots.
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The thing is that no other team had Ray Lewis and Ed Reed for the last 10 years, however, 6 other teams still won the Super Bowl whether it was with ok defense and great offense or great defense great offense or super stout defense. So we still stand a solid shot just like all the rest
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