Should we move Lardarius Webb to FS?

[RavensDE]

So I got to thinking about our personnel and how we like to move guys around...

Webb
The last time Webby came off an injury and to be frank when any human (AP not included) comes off an ACL tear I feel like they don't get that speed and quickness back the first year, especially the first half of the first year...
-What if the Ravens moved him to FS?
It's not crazy. He rules the nickel, tackles well and played Safety in college. It might explain why we have few worries and fits our depth a lil better. Maybe I'm crazy (mos def) but it seems plausible to me.

[1/28/01]

Ugh, this again?

[NaveSenrag]

Depends on his knees. If he can come back, and they're just as healthy as before, than I'd keep him at corner because elite corners are better to have than above average safeties. If he doesn't have as much flexibility, than I'd shift him to safety.

[omar586]

i could see harb doing just that to compensate lack of coverage experience at safety position.

[rmw10]

How many times is this going to be suggested? You NEVER move a shutdown corner to a position that is much easier to find. Look around the league at all of the shutdown corners. Done? Now look at all of the FS that can hold their position down. Done? You'll see the number of FSs outweigh the number of shutdown CBs by a ton.

[Ravenslifer]

Get back to me in 6-7 years.

[codizzle]

Haven't heard this one.. Great idea buddy

[Ravenseconbeast]

"what if we change a productive player into a different position?"

"great idea!"

is that what you were expecting?

[PurpleCorsair]

Webb will probably shift to saftey later in his career, but right now (when he's healthy) he's a top 10 corner, and probably the best nickel corner.

[DMH_in_WA]

I think the point he's trying to make and some are ignoring is, "What if Webb is not back up to his level of production when the season starts because of the injury?" What if he isn't what he was. Safety would be an easier position for him to play while he's coming back up to speed. A healthy Webb, no chance you touch him. But what if he's not back to that level when the season starts? Or what if he -never- gets back to that level?

Healthy Webb was a top CB ... we don't know what he will be coming off the injury.

[RavensDE]

Yeah yeah, but it looks like that's the way its working out. Of course we don't move a shutdown corner but if he shows a lack of quickness necessary at corner which is common among returning ACL, I see a match. Maybe you're right but I bet he plays a lot of nickel in 3 corner sets for the same reasons.

[SecretAgentMan]

Oh boy.
I think Hawaii has helped me get my sanity back.

Hmmm. If I was on a computer, this would be the perfect time for Steve Carell.

While we are at it, lets move Suggs to MLB, Rice to Slot, and Flacco to LT as he is big enough .

Lets also move Pitta to FB, and Dumerville to DE.

Ngata is also out of position, I heard once he could play FS. Lets move him there.

[easternshore97]

IMHO people are putting way too much concern in FS. If your pass rush does it's job, you could very well plug anybody back there because the QB won't be making great throws. And given that we've upgraded our pass rush, we should be ok.

I think they should just trust the rookies on the roster. Ed reed came out and did his thing because he was unknown and people learned over time to fear him. Why can't we just hope for the same with Omar? Or whoever else?

[izvoodoo]

NO! BECAUSE HE IS A CORNER!

[A Fish Called Yanda]

Next up: Let's put Haloti in as our QB. Because his thigh seems to be injured a lot.

[Geving]

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Oh boy.
I think Hawaii has helped me get my sanity back.

Hmmm. If I was on a computer, this would be the perfect time for Steve Carell.

While we are at it, lets move Suggs to MLB, Rice to Slot, and Flacco to LT as he is big enough .

Lets also move Pitta to FB, and Dumerville to DE.

Ngata is also out of position, I heard once he could play FS. Lets move him there.
[/quote]

Nah, Ngata was an awesome rugby player. He should be a RB

[CalvinSmoke]

OP i hear what your saying man. And i agree with you as long as Webb can't return to 100%. If he gives us a Chris Carr like production than I am all for it. But other wise, let's let him be the CB that he is.

[Gordo52]

Sorry, but no.

[beanfigger]

If Webb is not healthy enough to play cornerback, he sits and rests and doesn't play anything until he gets healthy enough to play cornerback. He does this because he's a cornerback. We need him to play cornerback because he's our best cornerback.

[i82much]

Is it conceivable at some point? Sure. Same with cold fusion. I'm not holding my breath.

[1/28/01]

If he's not healthy enough to play CB effectively, he's not healthy enough to be on the field. I get what you're saying (in fact, I get it every time someone mentions this same thing), but no, horrible idea.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1364349273' post='1416640']
Flacco to LT as he is big enough .
[/quote]

Dude, that's ridiculous. He's clearly a better fit at WR. Remember Troy Smith to Flacco for 43 yards??

[CalvinSmoke]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1364351656' post='1416674']
Dude, that's ridiculous. He's clearly a better fit at WR. Remember Troy Smith to Flacco for 43 yards??
[/quote] Flacco should have scored man...

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='CalvinSmoke' timestamp='1364352477' post='1416690']
Flacco should have scored man...
[/quote]

He wasn't [i]elite[/i]...yet.

[Gordo52]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1364352818' post='1416697']


He wasn't [i]elite[/i]...yet.


[/quote]
Peyton Manning would've scored.

[CapoRocky]

I really think that we shouldn't rush Webb back on the field, but when he is ready he will be great at CB again. Draft a safety or two!

[Bltravens]

[quote name='DMH_in_WA' timestamp='1364348568' post='1416630']
I think the point he's trying to make and some are ignoring is, "What if Webb is not back up to his level of production when the season starts because of the injury?" What if he isn't what he was. Safety would be an easier position for him to play while he's coming back up to speed. A healthy Webb, no chance you touch him. But what if he's not back to that level when the season starts? Or what if he -never- gets back to that level?

Healthy Webb was a top CB ... we don't know what he will be coming off the injury.
[/quote]
This. What people are forgetting is that Webb was not exactly a top calibre CB in 2010 when he came off his first ACL injury and was never the same that year, even into the playoffs. An entire year it took him to get his speed and burst back.

[GrimCoconut]

If Webb doesn't play well as a CB, if the double ACL is more severe than we expect then yes, I think this would be the time to do it. You have a strong CB class and it's possible we can get some more CBs to replace Webb. Even another guy with his name could do it, who looks like an excellent slot CB.

I don't think this idea is bad at all. I knew you would get flamed. To be honest, this subject is getting old. It's been suggested numerous times. I don't think it comes to fruition myself, but I can see why some would consider it. The idea makes more sense than Jimmy Smith to FS at the very least. It also makes more sense than Dennis Pitta to WR, or Upshaw to MLB. All ideas suggested by some around here.

Personally, I would sooner put Graham or Asa Jackson at FS than Webb.

[Purple Nurple]

[quote name='flynismo' timestamp='1364351656' post='1416674']


Dude, that's ridiculous. He's clearly a better fit at WR. Remember Troy Smith to Flacco for 43 yards??
[/quote]

Bengals game? His first game I think. I'm too lazy to look it up.

[DMH_in_WA]

[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1364349653' post='1416643']
NO! BECAUSE HE IS A CORNER!
[/quote]

He is a Corner now ... he also played Safety in college and is very familiar with the position.

The upside would be that he would be required to make far less strenuous cuts on his knees (people seem to be forgetting that this is his second surgery so now it's been both knees) and wouldn't often be one on one. Good if he's not back to his former level of play. Downside would be he now has to try and tackle 230lbs running backs far more often.

I think we don't take these injuries as seriously as we should because of success stories like Adrian Peterson .. but we won't know what he'll be like after now having both knees operated on,

Again, all depends on how he bounces back from the surgery .. he may NEVER be what he was before. That's a possibility.