[News] Ravens Reach Deal With Elvis Dumervil

[purplepain20]

yes!!! we now will have a killer run stopping D! i just hopivee our CB's step up more, i live in CO and went to the playoff game and this year the ravens are comming back and so am I! Go Ravens finally something positive!

[voxendu864]

[quote name='newrorayfan' timestamp='1364170779' post='1413945']
voxendu864 you're right i'm not in Owings Mills but they have evaluated these players and they have played very little at all. Doss the most and what? You honestly want what is on this roster when the Ravens had Boldin?
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They have played very little because the guys ahead of them were the best players.
Who played snaps behind Ed Reed? Nobody because Ed was healthy all season.
Who spelled Ray? Nobody when he was healthy

Ray Rice got spelled becuase they always work in a 2nd back.

NFL is not a meritocracy when you are a rookie or a 2nd year player and the guy ahead of you is a 6th year guy or a 10 year guy. What NFL team that utilizes a 3 WR set plugs in guys that are 4,5,6 on the depth chart? The 4,5,6 guys don't suck. They just aren't better than the 1,2,3 guys.

[zgenco]

Great sign as a Ravens fan this is the time of year where you can tell who has been a fan for some time. Every year we loose big name free agents and we overcome with great drafts. I wish we could have kept Reed because he is my favorite player of all time but its business. we have the best FO in football hands down Ozzie is a football genius he never overpays he is a bargain shopper. this is the biggest free agent signing by the ravens in a long time. we build teams from the draft. I would like to sign Huff tho for some veteran leadership in the secondary.

The Draft
I see us drafting a ILB or safety with the first pick I hope safety because I am not a fan of the ILB in this draft. But with the amazing amount of talent at safety we will probably go with Manti Te'o in the first. then in the second we should draft any of the following Jonathan Cyprien, Matt Elam, or D.J. Swearinger. I love Matt Elam but I do believe he will be Taken in the first but every draft has some surprises. I would be more than happy drafting any of these guys in the second round. Than in the Third Tyrann Mathieu or WR Ryan Swope. I feel that Tyrann Mathieu is best suited for safety and I would be happy to draft back to back safety's. Now I believe Ryan Swope is the next Wes Welker he did it all at Texas A%M and he ran well at the combine but if we want him I think we will have to trade up early in the third round to get him...At the end of the day I feel we will Draft two safety's and two ILB and at least on WR we have 12 picks to play with but I believe after trades we will select 10 players.

[gregster3]

@ Ravens Flock Are you forgetting that the players that you mentioned were part of the worst D in the past 12 years for the Ravens. Why would you want all those guys back. Right now our D is soooo much better then it was last year.

[Here]

Hello, although I live here in MD, I am a Broncos fan.

I just wanted to congratulate you all for signing Doom. It breaks my heart that he is no longer a Bronco.

You will find that not only is he a great football player, he is a great person off the field. I know you all will treat him well.

I don't know how to post it (smiley from the Broncos MB. I'm Peanut there), but a Mile High Salute to Doom!

[NinjaTurtles]

@zgenco..We would be better off getting Kevin Minter from LSU over Manti Teo. Minter doesn't receive all the hype that Teo receives. But the dude is a fast playing solid all around player. Reminds me a little of a younger Navarro Bowman from the 49ers.

[Billy2448]

Here comes Sizzle-vil QB's start running now!

[zgenco]

@NinjaTurtles Yes Minter would be a good pick but overall I'm not impressed with ILB in this draft nobody stands out to me.

[Ravenade]

Wwoooooooooooooeeeeeeeeeee!
All I got to say.

[Top_Raven_fan_in_SD]

To Ed Reed 20. Don't change your name! That's my opinion. Also, I don't think we really need to make a third wide receiver a priority...when you have such talent to throw to as Smith, Jones, Pitta (hopefully), Rice, Leach, etc. We do need a center though.

[zgenco]

@Top_Raven_fan_in_SD I do believe we will draft a center late for competition but Geno will win the job I don't think we need to sign a FA center.

[RavensScientist]

somebody make sure we get a good fax machine please

[Bradum]

Good signing, especially considering the Browns paid even more for Paul Kruger. Who would you rather have, Kruger (best season last season with 9 sacks, and can only pass rush) or Dumervil (11 sacks last season, and was considered an average season for him)? This is why the Ravens are always at the top of the division, and the Browns always at the bottom.

[wrm#1]

@Ravens_Flock, maybe the Ravens should just throw in the towel, call in their games, cancel the season.... 'Chill Man' there hasn't been a word spoken in anger, a pass attempted in earnest, a tackle made in desperation yet and already you're falling on your sword! im still trying to figure out what you're 'Just Saying'!

[Bradum]

[quote name='Ravens_Flock' timestamp='1364185784' post='1414393']
So having Dumervil (at a price ultimately bigger than what Kruger was asking for if he reaches all his incentives) is nice and all. But no, it does not make up for the losses, and it doesn't make Ozzie suddenly a "genius" again.
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Kruger signed a 5-year $40 million contract. Dumervil signed a 5-year $35 million contract. Might want to re-check your math.

[ozrave]

I'm with wrm#1. Best to just enjoy the ride.

[Top_Raven_fan_in_SD]

Really??? I got a negative comment for saying this:


To Ed Reed 20. Don't change your name! That's my opinion. Also, I don't think we really need to make a third wide receiver a priority...when you have such talent to throw to as Smith, Jones, Pitta (hopefully), Rice, Leach, etc. We do need a center though.

Why don't you come forward and tell me what you disagree about.

[Ravens West]

[quote name='Ravens_Flock' timestamp='1364185784' post='1414393']
We were "weak" because Haloti Ngata, Terrell Suggs, Ray Lewis, Pollard, Webb, McPhee, etc. were injured throughout the season. If none of those injuries had happened? We most likely would have had a great D. You can argue that Dumervil is an upgrade over Kruger (who I still think is going to have a dominant career), but we are now left with major holes at ILB and in the secondary. Jimmy Smith is a joke, and so is Terrence Cody. They draft Upshaw, and now bring in Dumervil, so what's the purpose of Upshaw then? They bring in veteran castoffs from the Giants and Cowboys. Great. Either temporary fixes or total busts, because both men are 30+. There is no guarantee that Webb will ever return to 2011 form, I hope he does, but considering this is his second knee surgery, and he's had tears in both knees now, just remember what happened to Foxworth, who was never able to come back. Or McAlister, who once he started having knee problems was never the same.

I'm just saying, signing Dumveril doesn't make up for what Reed, Pollard, Ellerbe, Kruger, Boldin, and Williams combined brought to the table. Boldin especially had more to do with our post-season success than any other player, and yes that includes Joe Flacco. Flacco would not have had the off-season, contract insuring performance he did without two people, Anquan Boldin, and Bryant McKinnie. As of right now, we don't have either player anymore, and no one competent to truly replace them right away. So having Dumervil (at a price ultimately bigger than what Kruger was asking for if he reaches all his incentives) is nice and all. But no, it does not make up for the losses, and it doesn't make Ozzie suddenly a "genius" again.
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Two things:

(1) According the the report I read from Mike Florio (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/24/dumervils-base-deal-is-five-years-26-million/), Dumervil's contract, even with all incentives achieved is $5.5 mil. less than we would have had to pay Kruger (please post info stating otherwise);

(2) Please explain how you can degrade what Ozzie has done, while praising what he has done? You speak of Ozzie as less, because he couldn't retain these players on the roster. Why? Because, they've outperformed their dollar value in our current plan. But tell me, who signed them to the roster in the first place?

Go back each of the last 5-6 years you'll find the same pattern, to some degree, of what's going on right now. Players are allowed to leave to make room for other players to improve the team ("Right player, right price"). This signing is another piece in a piece-by-piece process. We are not done yet. So, "respect the process!"

...And I'll agree with one part of your post, "...it doesn't make Ozzie suddenly a 'genius' again", because he never [u][b][i]stopped[/i][/b][/u] being one!

[n#7]

As been written previous times on this post one must show a little patience and have some confidence the Oz & Co. know what their doing and needed to overhaul an aging and ,at times, porous D. They are well on the way of accomplishing this goal and with 12 picks in the draft the outlook should only get better.Nobody's saying the mgmt. team are brilliant scientists or brain surgeons but in football acumen they are arguably the best in the business. Now maybe, just maybe, they might be able to trade down and get a top flight WR or LT. Stay tuned. It's only going to get more interesting and fun to see what's next up their sleeves.

[The Beak]

Still some fans are full off doom and gloom,, waa waa we lost my favorite player ...... Well I guess I'll join you,, I too am full of doom ......Doomer ville !!!!!!!! Yessssssss Babbbby we got Elvis woooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!

[SuRihtanil]

I am a Ravens fan so unlike the rest of the NFL fanbase I kinda know whats up with our team. Honestly I think the Ravens defensive front is looking better then last years. We just need a solid ILB and a solid safety if we can do that this team won't lose a step.

[Ravens10AllDay]

our defense is gonna be terrifying next year. We just need an inside linebacker that's a solid tackler. Then we need a safety that's smart enough to not let a.nyone get behind him. On the offensive side we need a slot receiver that has good hands and runs super crips routes. After that we could always use offensive lineman and a corner. I hope we move up in the draft to get better prospects now that we don't have as many needs to fill. I can't wait to see our d next year.. love our Ravens

[newrorayfan]

So when Ozzie says the Ravens had to restructure Boldin's contract or else(!) he must be waived, i guess he really meant that the Ravens really had no money. Joe should be happy that the offense has no receiver additions yet. Victor Cruz can be had for 2.9 million and this year's 1st round pick. Plus the Giants are offering only 7 million for Cruz following this year so if the Ravens or any other team want a superior receiver, better than anybody excluding Tavon Austin in this year's draft, he's available for the 32 pick in this year's draft.

[ravensykoh]

For years we have all begged and begged for another true pass rusher to compliment Suggs. In countless year end press conferences, Ozzie and the FO has continuously brought up bring in another pass rusher. For years it has seemed like pass rusher has been on our to-do and wish list but has never truly been fulfilled... It is a new day and new ear in Baltimore!!!!!! We have finally got ourselves 2 elite pass rushers along with our all star dominant DT in Haloti. Our D-line and Front 7 will be feared and our strength of our defense!

[waxytaxi]

we just need a safety and an inside linebacker. I like the idea of signing huff and maybe going through the draft to find an LB

[newrorayfan]

RavensFlock i especially agree, with a lot of what you wrote but the Boldin piece i still think is unbearably terrible. Especially when Ozzie starts saying that money was the issue and i wonder where the next receiver is. Draft, maybe the Ravens can draft the next Oniel Cousins at receiver or Mt Cody. The other option as has been the past 3 years, get a Housh or Lee "drop the ball to go to the Super bowl" Evans. Victor Cruz is there now for the #32 pick this year for Joe. Joe deserves and needs a receiver, badly. Basing your future on Joe being patient with young receivers, oh boy.

[Dumbo of Rome]

Is it time to Huff (without puffing)?

Maybe not now. Those 12 draft picks should give us 8 to 10 solid players.

[And to the many Tavon Austin lovers: yes, it's impossible not to love this Dunbar kid -but how is he going to fall to 32? We would need a huge trade up. I just hope he does not go to the Patriots or the Steelers]

[ittwasntme]

id like to see the tayvon austin counter part thats coming out this year, hes big and physically like boldin, and since we got the speed why not find ourselves some physical big recievers, as for defense, we could ultimately test the waters with bynes or mclellan, worse case, but id like to see us get a starting MLB from the draft. as for a safety, im sure oz can find another ball hawk Safety, like seattle found the earl thomas.

[VegasRaven]

Hahah players flowing among the AFC powerhouses. First Welker goes to Denver, then Ed Reed goes to Houston, now Dumervil comes to Baltimore... Next thing you know Barwin goes to the Seahawks...

[newrorayfan]

Austin won't be there at 32, his teammate Bailey will but he's not a 32 overall pick, so that's why Cruz might be a play for anbody but according to Boomer Esiason since the 1st round tender has been placed upon players, not once has a team signed a player and given up the 1st round pick. But for 2.9 million and the Giants are offering only 7 million to Cruz for a next deal, it means whoever trades for him could be able to keep him at a reasonable price.