Dream Scenario

[Blackbirds Rule]

Since it appears we lost Reed. Can you imagine these potential signings. Dumervil, Harrison, and Huff. I think Dumervil will be the first signing and soon followed by Huff. I think Huff is fairly young and would be a nice FS. I think the team would wait until after the draft to sign Harrison and McKinnie. Harrison and McKinnie would be cheap.

The defensive side of the ball could be Canty, Ngata, Dumervil, Spears, McPhee, Jones, Suggs and whatever NT we draft to help out. That is an unbelievable unit. Harrison coming in in pass rushing situations out there with Suggs and Dumervil.

The jury is out on Huff he might be damaged goods playing so long in Oakland. If we get Dumervil and Harrison we can get our FS in the draft or via draft pick trade to a team like the Giants for Stevie Brown or somebody like that. Worst case scenario you could get Charles Woodson for a Safety to help with his experience.

[BMORElegacy]

First off, it's Dumervil, not Dumverville. Second, I see us cutting Leach and then using that money to sign Huff, Dumervil, and McKinnie. Huff and Dumervil would be upgrades over Reed and Kruger and we could sign a proven LT.

I just feel like Leach being cut is inevitable. If Pollard was cut for a million, Leach is almost guaranteed to be cut. The positive is that they can then use that money to sign impact players at several key positions on both sides of the ball.

[beanfigger]

My dream scenario is much more boring than yours. I would like to sign Huff/Karlos Dansby/Kevin Walter to cheap, short deals. I would like to extend Pitta and Arthur Jones. Then, I would love it if we found a way to resolve our dilemna at LT very early in the draft. After that, use our plethora of picks to build depth at LB, DB, WR, and OLine. I don't think we have to make a splash at every position of need. We just have to address them and fill them with solid vets and talented youth.

[redravenfan]

Harrison is too old I think a bad idea Dumervil I would love to have but i'm betting someone offers him more . as for huff I don't watch that team at all and all I know is he is 30 and played cornerback last year we do have safeties on the roster . I say let huff go and try Thompson and Brown.

[rmw10]

Why would we need Dumervil and Harrison?

[The Oakland Cathedral]

I have no desire for Huff getting Dansby and Dumervil would be amazing though. I would even be fine with 1 of them and Harrison. Gonna miss reed though.

[Blackbirds Rule]

[quote name='rmw10' timestamp='1363825878' post='1407372']
Why would we need Dumervil and Harrison?
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We don't need them but if we can get them they drastically improve our team and pass rush. Dumervil and Harrison are complete players can rush and cover if needed. Can you imagine playing the Pats with Harrison using his strength on Gronk for bump and run while Dumervil and Suggs are rushing Brady? Ngata getting single coverage along with our other lineman.

[Blackbirds Rule]

[quote name='redravenfan' timestamp='1363825841' post='1407369']
Harrison is too old I think a bad idea Dumervil I would love to have but i'm betting someone offers him more . as for huff I don't watch that team at all and all I know is he is 30 and played cornerback last year we do have safeties on the roster . I say let huff go and try Thompson and Brown.
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We're not getting Harrison to be a starter. We would just have him as a pass rushing specialist. If needed he can play all three downs just on a limited basis. Upshaw is still the starter but on pass rushing downs Harrison could come in opposite Dumervil and Suggs.

[MDCop]

Im liking your dream.......and its not too fare fetched especially if we cut or even better restucure Leach. We need a shot in arm especially after losing Reed and I hope Ozzie knows it. We need to reload not rebuild.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1363826136' post='1407389']
I have no desire for Huff getting Dansby and Dumervil would be amazing though. I would even be fine with 1 of them and Harrison. Gonna miss reed though.
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You don't like Huff?

[Dubs]

If we could lock up Pitta and Art Jones long terms that would be great. On bringing in new guys I would like to see Huff, I think he would likely outperform whatever contract we give him, McKinnie would solidify our OL, and either an ILB or OLB (Dansby, Harrison, Dumervil, Shaun Phillips, Nick Barnett, Victor Butler, Brad Jones, Larry Grant - there are alot of guys still) would be a nice addition so we dont have too many pressing needs going into the draft

[pep_meister]

Harrison, huff, and dansby or heyward bey .

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1363826742' post='1407427']
You don't like Huff?
[/quote]I very much like Huff but I would prefer to try and find our next Franchise Safety in the draft rather than signing an aging player and avoiding the issue for a few more years.

[mgridda]

Michael Huff is by no means damaged goods. One of the better coverage and run stopping safeties in the league. He doesn't cause turnovers like Ed Reed, though.

Honestly,

I'd rather see James Harrison than Dumervil. Why? Harrison can play the pass and probably rush just as well and he's cheaper.

I also do like the play of Karlos Dansby last year, however I wouldn't want him on this football team. I want to see us do well in the draft.

My real dream is to have Ngata out at the nose tackle position. He's such a beast he could still dominate and really push the pocket along with canty and spears being rotated with McPhee and Art Jones Jr.

My dream scenario is that we draft Matt Elam and sign Michael Huff and James Harrison. I'd like an ilb in the draft, but i'm not sure who.

[Dubs]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1363827138' post='1407448']
I very much like Huff but I would prefer to try and find our next Franchise Safety in the draft rather than signing an aging player and avoiding the issue for a few more years.
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Both spots are relatively open - I would be much happier with Ihedigbo as a backup and core ST guy..albeit he has shown the ability to start I would rather use him where he shines. Its not like if we sign Huff it will be anything longer then 2 maybe 3 years...that should not change your draft or show much investment at all

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1363827138' post='1407448']
I very much like Huff but I would prefer to try and find our next Franchise Safety in the draft rather than signing an aging player and avoiding the issue for a few more years.
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I'd rather get Huff & have a rookie learn behind him. Unless we really like Thompson as a FS here. You don't want multiple positions where you have rookies. I'd rather ease a rookie in than have him shell-shocked.

[mgridda]

[quote name='Blackbirds Rule' timestamp='1363826272' post='1407396']
We don't need them but if we can get them they drastically improve our team and pass rush. Dumervil and Harrison are complete players can rush and cover if needed. Can you imagine playing the Pats with Harrison using his strength on Gronk for bump and run while Dumervil and Suggs are rushing Brady? Ngata getting single coverage along with our other lineman.
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Dumervil is not a complete player. I would love if his deficiency came in pass coverage and would just have him rush the QB 100% of his snaps, but basically the way to beat a team Elvis Dumervil plays on is to run right at Elvis Dumervil.

And we do NOT have the insidelinebackers to go blowing things up like they did in Denver. We don't even have the safeties to cap off runs or sabre in for the tackle. Dumervil will give our defense a great pass rushing strength, at the cost of a great run stopping weakness.

If we sign him, I hope it's 1) cheap and 2) that Ngata/canty/Spears/Jones/McPhee can destroy any runs going his side.

[mgridda]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1363827296' post='1407458']
I'd rather get Huff & have a rookie learn behind him. Unless we really like Thompson as a FS here. You don't want multiple positions where you have rookies. I'd rather ease a rookie in than have him shell-shocked.
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Exactly. Huff at FS 12 yards back, Matt Elam at SS 10 yards back.


Yes, please...

[The Oakland Cathedral]

[quote name='Dubs' timestamp='1363827286' post='1407456']
Both spots are relatively open - I would be much happier with Ihedigbo as a backup and core ST guy..albeit he has shown the ability to start I would rather use him where he shines. Its not like if we sign Huff it will be anything longer then 2 maybe 3 years...that should not change your draft or show much investment at all
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[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1363827296' post='1407458']
I'd rather get Huff & have a rookie learn behind him. Unless we really like Thompson as a FS here. You don't want multiple positions where you have rookies. I'd rather ease a rookie in than have him shell-shocked.
[/quote]I actually would prefer to see Brown as starting FS and Thompson as starting SS but that is just my opinion but since I don't see that happening I want to see Elam here next year to be our next great safety. I wouldn't mind Huff but I wouldn't pursue him if it cost us Dumervil, Dansby, or Harrison when we could draft a Safety that could potentially be better.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1363827633' post='1407474']

I actually would prefer to see Brown as starting FS and Thompson as starting SS but that is just my opinion but since I don't see that happening I want to see Elam here next year to be our next great safety. I wouldn't mind Huff but I wouldn't pursue him if it cost us Dumervil, Dansby, or Harrison when we could draft a Safety that could potentially be better.
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I like Dansby but I don't see us pursuing him. Have we even shown interest in him? He seems like one of those guys the fans will want more than the team.

Here's the deal: the other day, I read a report that the Ravens will be putting McClellin at ILB full time now. This is a telling & revealing move and here is why:

It means we are freeing up the OLB position. We have McClain, and while I am not at all a fan he & McClellin have been very effective ILBs here before. They will provide some type of veteran presence, and I think the Ravens move forward with that. I do not see us acquiring any free agent ILB. I see our next LBs coming as drafted or undrafted players.

Also, Harbs mentioned Levine as a guy who could come and start if we lost Reed just the other day. Another telling move. I see us pursuing Huff because he shouldn't be expensive, is younger than Ed, and is a nice stop-gap.

I see us getting an OLB or a S free agent but no ILB FAs. Just my opinion.

[mgridda]

Agreed @grim, I am high on Dansby, but I don't see him fitting in here as a Ravens-type-player. Maybe if he's still lingering at the very end of free agency I could see our interest picking up on him, but he'll likely find a suitor who will pay him more than we can offer. I can see us easily replacing ILB with our in-house talent, just like at WR. I mean, we're going to draft somebody at both those positions depending on how the draft plays out in the middle rounds or late rounds: seems like we do that every year.

Probably just plays out that way due to depth and a bpa styling. We have a lot of in-house talent, though.

[Ravenseconbeast]

The dream: Get Dumervil, or Harrison. Then get Huff and B-mac. All for 'fair' price.

The reality: We will address majority of the position through draft.

[ravensfan2430]

My dream is we don't sign anyone else in free agency and draft 12 HOFers.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1363829358' post='1407585']
The dream: Get Dumervil, or Harrison. Then get Huff and B-mac. All for 'fair' price.

The reality: We will address majority of the position through draft.
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I think there's a legit chance we get one of those guys. One. Two would be amazing and a dream.

The problem is we have Oher, Pitta, Dickson, Jones all as draftees who are on their last year of their rookie contract/tender. I want Art & Dennis more than any FA. If all we do is extend Pitta & Jones then sign Huff, I would be thrilled.

[redravenfan]

[quote name='Blackbirds Rule' timestamp='1363826549' post='1407415']
We're not getting Harrison to be a starter. We would just have him as a pass rushing specialist. If needed he can play all three downs just on a limited basis. Upshaw is still the starter but on pass rushing downs Harrison could come in opposite Dumervil and Suggs.
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all reports are he is a locker room cancer no clue why anyone wants him here . the steelers have good coaches too and couldn't keep his mouth shut plus the penalities .

[blitzking33]

Here's my dream..

Draft Tyrann Mathieu in the laster rounds and convert him to FS. His playmaking skills are out this world. Take a risk on him and put Jimmy Smith at RCB (college days).. Graham at LCB.. and insert Webb into the starting lineup when he's healthy and Graham to slot.

And Tavon Austin and a LT will be great too.

[Ravenseconbeast]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1363829774' post='1407600']
I think there's a legit chance we get one of those guys. One. Two would be amazing and a dream.

The problem is we have Oher, Pitta, Dickson, Jones all as draftees who are on their last year of their rookie contract/tender. I want Art & Dennis more than any FA. If all we do is extend Pitta & Jones then sign Huff, I would be thrilled.
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Oh for sure. Like a lot of folks here, I want Doom. He will be the biggest impact player out of all of them. But at the end, I see us grabbing someone like Huff @ bargain price.

[rmw10]

[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1363830800' post='1407657']
Oh for sure. Like a lot of folks here, I want Doom. He will be the biggest impact player out of all of them. But at the end, I see us grabbing someone like Huff @ bargain price.
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I agree. I see us bringing in Huff and another bargain player right now. Save a little bit for Oz's training camp hunting and I think that will be our offseason. As much as I like Elvis, I just don't see it happening.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='blitzking33' timestamp='1363830330' post='1407635']
Here's my dream..

Draft Tyrann Mathieu in the laster rounds and convert him to FS. His playmaking skills are out this world. Take a risk on him and put Jimmy Smith at RCB (college days).. Graham at LCB.. and insert Webb into the starting lineup when he's healthy and Graham to slot.

And Tavon Austin and a LT will be great too.
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I like Mathieu as a safety a lot, honestly. I think he would do well there.

[runamuk]

[i]I say give Brown and Thompson a chance . and not take huff . Dumervil over Harrison . and big mac on a one year deal til we train/draft his replacement. [/i]