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#1 rayven98

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:24 PM

Anybody know what we have for space after boldin comes off the books and with our recent deals. Saw a thread earlier but can't find it now. Thanks
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#2 Bazooka Joe

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:28 PM

I think after the Boldin trade it should be $16M but that's my layman's understanding
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:31 PM

10 mil-ish.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:35 PM

10 mil-ish.

http://www.baltimore...61-c99f5d75eb01


Yes. Around $10 million, but we still need to save about $4M for the draft. So really, we have about $6M.
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:40 PM

Yes. Around $10 million, but we still need to save about $4M for the draft. So really, we have about $6M.


with having 12 draft picks im not sure how much money would be used for them, but i would love to be able to trade down twice or so to make up the difference if that means we can grab dumerville...id be more than ok with that.
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:42 PM

And we still have 6 or 7 guys - who probably don't make the team- who are in that $400k/year bracket.

Something I found strangely annoying to me is that we still have Cundiff on our books. He's gonna eat up $1.8mil dead money this coming cap (second highest dead money behind Ray Lewis and $300k above Boldin).

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:48 PM

Yes. Around $10 million, but we still need to save about $4M for the draft. So really, we have about $6M.

Can rookie contracts be structured like free agents with front/back loading and signing bonuses? I know they have a base salary per position, so I would think not.
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#8 rayven98

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:50 PM

Since lewis retired he is completely off the books is he not? Or is it the remainder of the signing bonus? Also isn't boldin completely off since he was traded?
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:54 PM

Since lewis retired he is completely off the books is he not? Or is it the remainder of the signing bonus? Also isn't boldin completely off since he was traded?


No, they have dead money coming from bonuses still on the books. They pay the guys bonuses up front, so they already have the money. It's spread out, usually, over the life of their contract. Even though they are gone, that bonus money is still on the books.

So, for Lewis it's $2,950,000 and for Boldin it's $1,531,250 that goes against our cap this year. (Edit: Birk this year is $1.4mil btw.)

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#10 rayven98

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:54 PM

And is the $10 million referenced in that article current becuz boldins deal technically is still on the books. Hope that is the case therefore we really have about $16 million by end of the week
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:56 PM

And is the $10 million referenced in that article current becuz boldins deal technically is still on the books. Hope that is the case therefore we really have about $16 million by end of the week


Nope. $10M is including Boldin's savings.
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 05:34 PM

I understand having to carry dead money for a player we cut, but why aren't players who retire or quit required to return the signing bonus for the for the remaining years of the contract?
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 06:12 PM

Or since it is already paid out just drop it off the cap
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 06:23 PM

i would re-do Ngata's, Sizzle's and Leach's contracts so we could get the cap to keep Ed, sign our own Pitta, then get Huff and Dumervil... give our original 7th to Raiders for Rolando... and if there's pennies left put a scare into giants just for fun by bidding on Cruz
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 08:19 PM

i would re-do Ngata's, Sizzle's and Leach's contracts so we could get the cap to keep Ed, sign our own Pitta, then get Huff and Dumervil... give our original 7th to Raiders for Rolando... and if there's pennies left put a scare into giants just for fun by bidding on Cruz


Wouldn't touch Suggs' contract. Ngata and Leach would be who I went after. I also do t see the team pursuing both Reed and Huff. Makes no sense and don't have the cash.
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 08:33 PM

i would re-do Ngata's, Sizzle's and Leach's contracts so we could get the cap to keep Ed, sign our own Pitta, then get Huff and Dumervil... give our original 7th to Raiders for Rolando... and if there's pennies left put a scare into giants just for fun by bidding on Cruz


I thought Rolando was cut already?
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 09:07 PM

Wouldn't touch Suggs' contract. Ngata and Leach would be who I went after. I also do t see the team pursuing both Reed and Huff. Makes no sense and don't have the cash.


Somebody better touch Suggs' contract along with Ngata's. Suggs cap hits in 2013 & 2014 are $13mil & $12.4mil respectively. Ngata's 2013-2015 cap hits are $11.5mil, $16mil & $16mil.

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 10:38 PM

Somebody better touch Suggs' contract along with Ngata's. Suggs cap hits in 2013 & 2014 are $13mil & $12.4mil respectively. Ngata's 2013-2015 cap hits are $11.5mil, $16mil & $16mil.


Mess with it now just hits you later. Also don't know how quickly Suggs might decline as well. Let him just play it out. Ngata you can get more years out of cause he can be moved to NT when he's older so I think a Ngata restructure is more likely.
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 10:46 PM

Here's a nice breakdown of the ins and outs of the NFL Salary Cap:

http://russellstreet...t.com/cap-faqs/
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Posted 20 March 2013 - 12:25 AM

Well if its around 6m, i suppose that's enough to sign back Ed Reed & Big Mac

If Reed doesn't come back I guess sign Big Mac or some able LT and extend Pitta/Jones
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