Tommy Streeter to see playing time this year?

[rmw10]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1363553908' post='1402233']
While I projected Streeter to make the roster, there's a very real chance what you said happens. I'm more of a gambling man, so I'm gambling with the idea that Streeter will be used, thinking we'll throw him out there on 3rd downs in the redzone. In all honesty, I believe there's a strong chance he ends up on IR again.

I can see a WR corps where we have Smith, Doss, JJ, Thompson & Reed with a draft pick in there, possibly Harper. I think the FO wants to see what Reed can do. If Reed is unimpressive, there's a legit chance we cut him and bring LaQuan up to the roster. We're going to have some nice competition here. We also have that WR from GB we signed not long ago. What was his name?
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That's Tori Gurley, who I completely forgot about until you said something. Word out of GB is that he's a great receiver that happened to fall victim to the numbers game being that Jennings, Nelson, Cobb, Driver, and Jones were all ahead of him. He could be a nice hidden talent as well.

[Latch]

[quote name='ravenfan222222' timestamp='1363492167' post='1401605']
[size=6][sub]I would bring in Darrius Haywerd Bey if i was the Ravens! He's a former MD Terp, went to high school in MD, and was born in MD. There is no place like home! He would have a support system here that wouldnt be able to be matched anywhere else and a lot of friends and family to make him feel comfortable. He is extremely fast he ran a 4.3 in the 40 yard dash and ran an unofficial time of a 4.24 which would tie Chris Johnson's record for the fastest ever. He needs to become more consistent catching the ball and needs to improve his route running. But catching and route running can be taught size, height, and speed can't. He is 6'2 with amazing speed and he accelerates great. I think the Oakland Raiders put a lot of pressure on him when they chose him 7th overall in the first round of the draft when he was projected to go in the 2nd or 3rd round, and they never really gave him a good chance or an oppurtunity to develop and had no veteran WR's there to coach him up and to follow in there footsteps. When drafted he faced a lot of harsh criticism and pressure to be a rookie #1 Starting WR for a struggling team. And if u watch film the QB's that he played with were terrble. He played with Culpepper in his last stage of his carear, Jemarcus Russell the biggest draft bust of all time, and an aging Carson Palmer who really all he had was a strong arm. The raiders really have no other WR to go along with him either or a good TE and Mcfadden was always injured so when u played the Raiders u knew they were going to throw the ball and odds r it was going to Darrius, and often times they would throw him the ball when he was double and tripple covered or across the middle when he was about to take a big hit and then he wouldnt hold onto it which isnt his fault that would be the QB's fault. And Darrius could of easily just pulled a Jemarcus Russell and just gave up bc they have no coaching staff in Oakland, nothing there except youth and speed, and Al Davis in his older stages in life did a lot of questionable things especially some of the peoplewho he drafted. And majority of Raiders fans r wishing him luck since he was released and saying that they want him to succeed. And raiders fans r very harsh and some of the most crazy fans in the NFL so that just goes to show u that they believe he could o fbeen good and he was thrown into a terrible situation. And they were saying go anywhere except r division which shows that he can be a huge threat if he is given a good chance on a team with a good QB. The fans also said he was very durable and he worked his but off and he didnt deserve to be bashed. They also said he had a great work ethic and was a class act, which is hard to do when he was playing for the Raiders who have no big name players or any good coaches. I think that Darrius and Torrey Smith combined would be danjerous with there speed and there ability to stretch the field and throw in Flacco emerging as a great QB and his amazing arm strength i think that could be lethal. We r in seriou need of a WR this year. Streeter is fast i believe he ran a 4.4in the 40 but he is very inconsistent catching and often drops wide open passes. He is a project that needs a lot of work and he is very raw. In his combine he was even dropping passes with no defenders on him and where it should be a gaurantee catch and he is just coming off of a foot injury that placed him n injured reserve. Streeter is 6'5 220 Lbs which is great but he is rather scrawny and doesnt have a lot of strength for a WR his size in the NFL. I think maybe somewhere down the line in a few years with a lot of hard work and coaching that Streeter may be good but i just dont see it right now. And after all he was a 6th round draft pick which shows a lot of teams thought that he wasnt even worth drafting and streeter has no regular season games in his experience so i just dont see him being the answer at WR atleast not this year! So please comment and tell me what u guys think about this idea, Thanks! [/sub][/size]
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you literally posted the exact same thing in another thread, but in a font that was too small. your logic is flawed either way. we need more possession receivers, not any more people with questionable hands.

[Ravenseconbeast]

I am really hoping Tommy gets his share of reps. His too raw. If he just stays in the p.s. and depth he will be another project that just washes away by next year. Year after that, we will be lf another project to groom.

[gabefergy]

I think I am more optimistic about Streeter than most of you. He has had time to get stronger and work on catching anx route-running. I really think he will impress in OTAs and preseason and wouldn't surprise me if he ends up 3rd or 4th on the depth chart. The raw talent is there and if puts in the work there will be a role for him. The FO was obviously very high on him or they wouldn't have put him on the IR.

[wademan2636]

here's my opinion on doss and streeter

doss: strong build, soft hands, and decently high upside. however, there is one huge problem with doss. he struggles to get open. he ran a bunch of routes this year, but he barely got any targets. he struggles to separate and find openings in the defense, so flacco never throws to him. and his only td catch was on a hitch screen.

streeter: much higher upside than doss, but still pretty raw. speedy, athletic, and strong. he needs to refine his route running and hands, but i think he could develop into a good starter within a year or two.

i like doss as a short term option and streeter as a long term option. however, i think we should also address receiver in the draft, just in case those guys don't pan out.

and as for jacoby, he does his best work as a third receiver. he is pretty good, but he thrives when the attention of the defense is on other receivers. he can beat single coverage most of the time and he can get open really easily when the defense isnt focused on him. my vote is that we start torrey and doss and have jacoby as our third receiver.

another option is to use more 2 TEs sets. Dickson isnt as bad as everyone says he is. he has shown explosiveness, good hands, and good route running.

no matter how we take care of the situation, im not too worried about our receiving corps this year.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1363553908' post='1402233']

While I projected Streeter to make the roster, there's a very real chance what you said happens. I'm more of a gambling man, so I'm gambling with the idea that Streeter will be used, thinking we'll throw him out there on 3rd downs in the redzone. In all honesty, I believe there's a strong chance he ends up on IR again.

I can see a WR corps where we have Smith, Doss, JJ, Thompson & Reed with a draft pick in there, possibly Harper. I think the FO wants to see what Reed can do. If Reed is unimpressive, there's a legit chance we cut him and bring LaQuan up to the roster. We're going to have some nice competition here. We also have that WR from GB we signed not long ago. What was his name?
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I'm a bit of a gambling man myself and I'm bet that David Reed turns into a helluva slot WR this year. I think there is a legit reason why the coaches continue to rave about Reed and it's not just ST play. But i'm not foolish, I know that if he doesn't produce as a WR, he's probably gone. No he's definitely gone. People will be shocked and pleasantly surprised at how good Reed will be.

Torri Gurley, Streeter and Thompson are the biggest reasons I don't see a high draft pick spent on a WR. Maybe a 5th or 6th round guy but nothing more imo. I think the Ravens will look to develop those 3 guys and see who steps up in 2014. I see Smith, Reed, Doss and Jones as the top 4 guys heading into 2013. I think Williams and Thompson are the other 2 guys. Streeter or Gurley could push Williams off the roster this year. But I think Williams will really shine this preseason and make the roster.

I really like the WR group and actually see Jacoby and Williams being the odd men out in 2014. Jacoby brings speed and great return ability. However I'm thinking a younger Thompson will ultimately fill that role. Both as a return and a guy who takes the top off the defense.

Williams will have to bring something to the offense that no one else does. I don't really see it. He'll probably be good enough to make the cut this year, but 2014 will be a dog fight at the WR position.

[TonyTone1192]

[quote name='usmccharles' timestamp='1363467702' post='1401011']
Taken from rotoworld.com

"Jones was safe after the Ravens traded Anquan Boldin away, but this assures him of his roster spot. An All-Pro return man last season, Jones may be asked to take on a bigger role on offense in 2013. As it stands right now, he's Baltimore's No. 2 receiver. Tandon Doss and Tommy Streeter are other in-house receivers. "

So if im reading this correctly this is implying streeter is 4th on the depth chart? Havent heard anything about him all year or any of his progress. Curious if anyone else has some info, sorry if this is discussed anywhere else.
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"If Streeter is coached well and works hard, he could become a bigger, faster version of[url="http://bleacherreport.com/cincinnati-bengals"]Bengals[/url] wide receiver [url="http://www.nfl.com/player/a.j.green/2495450/profile"]A.J. Green[/url]."

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1164769-baltimore-ravens-2012-nfl-draft-report-card-grades-for-every-pick/page/8

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='TonyTone1192' timestamp='1363561365' post='1402407']
"If Streeter is coached well and works hard, he could become a bigger, faster version of[url="http://bleacherreport.com/cincinnati-bengals"]Bengals[/url] wide receiver [url="http://www.nfl.com/player/a.j.green/2495450/profile"]A.J. Green[/url]."

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That's going overboard. I'd be ecstatic if Streeter became Malcom Floyd.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1363559729' post='1402365']


I'm a bit of a gambling man myself and I'm bet that David Reed turns into a helluva slot WR this year. I think there is a legit reason why the coaches continue to rave about Reed and it's not just ST play. But i'm not foolish, I know that if he doesn't produce as a WR, he's probably gone. No he's definitely gone. People will be shocked and pleasantly surprised at how good Reed will be.

Torri Gurley, Streeter and Thompson are the biggest reasons I don't see a high draft pick spent on a WR. Maybe a 5th or 6th round guy but nothing more imo. I think the Ravens will look to develop those 3 guys and see who steps up in 2014. I see Smith, Reed, Doss and Jones as the top 4 guys heading into 2013. I think Williams and Thompson are the other 2 guys. Streeter or Gurley could push Williams off the roster this year. But I think Williams will really shine this preseason and make the roster.

I really like the WR group and actually see Jacoby and Williams being the odd men out in 2014. Jacoby brings speed and great return ability. However I'm thinking a younger Thompson will ultimately fill that role. Both as a return and a guy who takes the top off the defense.

Williams will have to bring something to the offense that no one else does. I don't really see it. He'll probably be good enough to make the cut this year, but 2014 will be a dog fight at the WR position.
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You keep saying that, but let me remind you that the Ravens go BPA and if there is a guy there in a round where they have him pegged they will take him. I can see that being Harper in the 4th or so. We did it last year with Pierce. Yeah, Ricky Williams retired but we had Anthony Allen & Damien Berry. The coaches & scouts loved BP and took him and celebrated the pick. It's a very similar--eerily similar--situation.

I think there's an extremely strong chance we take a WR in any round. It depends on the board of course, but if Allen, Austin, or possibly even Patterson though I am not a fan are there at 32 there's a legit chance they are Ravens. Same with guys like Hunter, Woods, Wheaton, etc. in the 2nd round and so forth.

I think we will come away from this draft with a WO.

For the record, I agree with you. I just don't really agree with you in the sense that you say we won't get a WR early. I think it could happen. Not that it will but there's a legit chance it does happen.

I love our WRs, though. I really want to give them a shot.

[Ravenseconbeast]

[quote name='TonyTone1192' timestamp='1363561365' post='1402407']

"If Streeter is coached well and works hard, he could become a bigger, faster version of[url="http://bleacherreport.com/cincinnati-bengals"]Bengals[/url] wide receiver [url="http://www.nfl.com/player/a.j.green/2495450/profile"]A.J. Green[/url]."

[url="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1164769-baltimore-ravens-2012-nfl-draft-report-card-grades-for-every-pick/page/8"]http://bleacherrepor...ery-pick/page/8[/url]
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I wish. That's never going to happen. A.J. has a better chance of catching a ball w/ his hand tied than Street w/ traffic.

[usmccharles]

[quote name='TonyTone1192' timestamp='1363561365' post='1402407']
"If Streeter is coached well and works hard, he could become a bigger, faster version of[url="http://bleacherreport.com/cincinnati-bengals"]Bengals[/url] wide receiver [url="http://www.nfl.com/player/a.j.green/2495450/profile"]A.J. Green[/url]."

[url="http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1164769-baltimore-ravens-2012-nfl-draft-report-card-grades-for-every-pick/page/8"]http://bleacherrepor...ery-pick/page/8[/url]
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This is absolutely insane to say. i could understand if hes alrady playing and showed a glimpse, but he has even made it on the field....come on

[GrimCoconut]

Come on, guys. It's Bleacher Report, lol.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1363563897' post='1402448']

You keep saying that, but let me remind you that the Ravens go BPA and if there is a guy there in a round where they have him pegged they will take him. I can see that being Harper in the 4th or so. We did it last year with Pierce. Yeah, Ricky Williams retired but we had Anthony Allen & Damien Berry. The coaches & scouts loved BP and took him and celebrated the pick. It's a very similar--eerily similar--situation.

I think there's an extremely strong chance we take a WR in any round. It depends on the board of course, but if Allen, Austin, or possibly even Patterson though I am not a fan are there at 32 there's a legit chance they are Ravens. Same with guys like Hunter, Woods, Wheaton, etc. in the 2nd round and so forth.

I think we will come away from this draft with a WO.

For the record, I agree with you. I just don't really agree with you in the sense that you say we won't get a WR early. I think it could happen. Not that it will but there's a legit chance it does happen.

I love our WRs, though. I really want to give them a shot.
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When I say I don't see the Ravens going WR it's not because I don't think they'll pull the trigger if one is there, but more because I feel there is really strong defensive talent from rounds 1-4. I also think the opportunity to target a quality developmental LT, mainly Watson or Armstead will be between late 1st and mid 2nd round.

So it moreso about how I see the draft playing out early, not so much as saying the Ravens won't absolutely won't go WR. I see the WRs getting selected heavy through rounds 1-3 and because of it so guys will be overdrafted just like every year. I have no doubt that if the Ravens have a WR at the top of their board he'll be selected. I actually had the Ravens taking Chris Harper with their second 4th rounder a couple weeks ago. So I can definitely see that, although bottom 4th isn't high. But the closer we get to the draft the more I think Harper will go in the 3rd round. Late 3 but still in the 3rd.

There are a few WRs i'd love to see added. But the way I see the draft going right now. I don't see WR being targeted early and with where the Ravens select over the first 3 rounds I think they'll miss out on the run of WRs and won't get involved in overdrafting. But WR is definitely a possibility, i just done see it as a need like some others do.

[TonyTone1192]

Hey, I'm just quoting the football analyst. Lol When I first read it I thought that it was a bit far-fetched as well.

[quote name='Ravenseconbeast' timestamp='1363565236' post='1402466']
I wish. That's never going to happen. A.J. has a better chance of catching a ball w/ his hand tied than Street w/ traffic.
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[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1363561830' post='1402412']
That's going overboard. I'd be ecstatic if Streeter became Malcom Floyd.
[/quote]This is absolutely insane to say. i could understand if hes alrady playing and showed a glimpse, but he has even made it on the field....come on
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[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1363572509' post='1402589']
When I say I don't see the Ravens going WR it's not because I don't think they'll pull the trigger if one is there, but more because I feel there is really strong defensive talent from rounds 1-4. I also think the opportunity to target a quality developmental LT, mainly Watson or Armstead will be between late 1st and mid 2nd round.

So it moreso about how I see the draft playing out early, not so much as saying the Ravens won't absolutely won't go WR. I see the WRs getting selected heavy through rounds 1-3 and because of it so guys will be overdrafted just like every year. I have no doubt that if the Ravens have a WR at the top of their board he'll be selected. I actually had the Ravens taking Chris Harper with their second 4th rounder a couple weeks ago. So I can definitely see that, although bottom 4th isn't high. But the closer we get to the draft the more I think Harper will go in the 3rd round. Late 3 but still in the 3rd.

There are a few WRs i'd love to see added. But the way I see the draft going right now. I don't see WR being targeted early and with where the Ravens select over the first 3 rounds I think they'll miss out on the run of WRs and won't get involved in overdrafting. But WR is definitely a possibility, i just done see it as a need like some others do.
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I agree with what you say. I probably misunderstood you there.

For me, I feel like we're going to end up with a DE, DT, LB, WR, CB & LT in this draft. The draft is far too deep in those respective positions for one to not be BPA.

But my gut tells me that we're taking a DE, LB, & OT or CB in the first three rounds. I feel like those positions will end up being BPA when we pick. I'm not particularly fond of the safety class this year, while others seem to be raving about them. I like these DBs, prospects who can go CB or S. I think that's where we will go. I absolutely love JJ Wilcox for this football team as well as Slay, Alford, or Wreh-Wilson. Arthur Brown, Jon Bostic, Manti Te'o I like at LB.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1363573207' post='1402601']

I agree with what you say. I probably misunderstood you there.

For me, I feel like we're going to end up with a DE, DT, LB, WR, CB & LT in this draft. The draft is far too deep in those respective positions for one to not be BPA.

But my gut tells me that we're taking a DE, LB, & OT or CB in the first three rounds. I feel like those positions will end up being BPA when we pick. I'm not particularly fond of the safety class this year, while others seem to be raving about them. I like these DBs, prospects who can go CB or S. I think that's where we will go. I absolutely love JJ Wilcox for this football team as well as Slay, Alford, or Wreh-Wilson. Arthur Brown, Jon Bostic, Manti Te'o I like at LB.
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Yea I agree. LB, DE, OT and DB are my bets for the first 3 rounds. I'd also add NT in there depending on how some things fall. I think the Ravens will come away with some quality players in this draft.

My point about DT, Streeter and Gurley is that they're all highly talented 2nd year guys who are basically the same as drafting a late guy imo. If you have another one position and WR at the top of the draft board. I think the WR group is good enough that you look to add to say the ILB or DL position imo.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1363577091' post='1402700']
Yea I agree. LB, DE, OT and DB are my bets for the first 3 rounds. I'd also add NT in there depending on how some things fall. I think the Ravens will come away with some quality players in this draft.

My point about DT, Streeter and Gurley is that they're all highly talented 2nd year guys who are basically the same as drafting a late guy imo. If you have another one position and WR at the top of the draft board. I think the WR group is good enough that you look to add to say the ILB or DL position imo.
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There are a lot of guys I really like that can play NT here in this draft. Some of them are guys that aren't even known yet, obscure prospects, such as Gino Gradkowski. Nobody talked about him before we got him. I really think that we might see another guy just like that pop up around here. I really like Montori Hughes, though I have received criticism for that pick. I think he has a lot of potential and I've heard he has a 5th round grade. I would very much like him as a NT here.

[TheMadRaven]

I just hope we hear this a lot.

"Flacco drops back, goes deep." "End Zone!!" "Touchdown Tommy Streeter."