David Reed agrees to a 2 year, $2.5 million (max) deal

[jaege]

[quote name='Hardbaugh' timestamp='1363090775' post='1388383']
I'm glad the front office is spending the two million saved from Boldin wisely. I mean what will this team do without David Reed? Hopefully the sixth round pick will be great as well.
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Yeah, nice use of those extra funds. Now we can be assured of a few dropped kick-off returns. No reason to make any of the games too hard for our opponents.

[Tiz]

[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1363107934' post='1388917']
$2.5 million dollars with a $500,000 signing bonus? We cut Boldin for that? What a complete FAILURE by the front office keeping this bum around for longer. He should've been cut after that Seattle debacle.
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No we didnt cut boldin for reed
Reed wouodmhave been resigned regardless

So people can see it again your offseason roster consist of more than 53 people
That means alot of signings now won't make it through tc let alone play
There will be other wr signings and even then, until season starts and guys perform you don't know if the moves do work out.

Remember as rookies alot of people didnt think Torrey should b ahead of tandon now we know why he was...

[jaege]

[quote name='jdynamite' timestamp='1363095197' post='1388490']
Why are they resigning him. Ugh
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Well, because, according to all his fanboys, he never got a chance to really show his stuff. God forbid he doesn't get a chance. But, if memory serves he did get a chance. He played a few snaps and, as I remember, he FAILED to perform. Either he couldn't get open or he dropped the ball. The coaching staff must not have been very impressed since they never gave him another chance.

But as others have said it is a cheap signing, and a mistake that is easily corrected at no cost. Well little cost. There was a 500k signing bonus I believe. He is good on special teams and he is fast so tends to get to the returner quickly. Not a bad signing I guess.

[cobrajet]

Still upset by his "off the field issues" but if Jacoby is going to be more involved now that we lost Boldin, Reed showed flashes of talent on returns (we will throw out the seattle game). Hopefully, his knee is back to form and he can continue to be good on special teams.

[GrimCoconut]

Yeah, Reed had a chance. Another player who had a chance is Anquan Boldin. Reed had a chance when Cam was calling the shots. Hasn't had much opportunity under Caldwell--yet. I expect that to change.

Boldin's production changed a lot with Caldwell calling the shots. Perhaps the same happens for Reed. His guaranteed salary is only 500k. That's nothing.

[The Raven]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1363100656' post='1388707']
He did have more catches than Boldin in the first Denver game...
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Lmao!

[jshahan33]

We sign Reed and let Boldin go? So this is how it is? Flacco's plan is Bugs Bunny Football? He throws then runs out to catch his own passes? More believe with this move to let Boldin go would have been to say we are going to be poor for the next few years and Reed is cheaper. It also looks real bad to trade the best possession receiver in football to the head coach's little brother for a little more then a bag of balls a 6th round pick, just what are we supposed to get with that a long snapper?

[The Raven]

Reed is cheap, young, and improving. He has potential in our offense.

Boldin is expensive, old, and declining.

Is that so hard to see? Really don't see the issue.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='UMDan' timestamp='1363098701' post='1388606']
Meh. I've never understood his role on this team and still don't when we have Jacoby, but whatever.
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He's been a good gunner on special teams from day one. What's so hard to understand about that? Catching passes and returning kicks or punts aren't the only ways a WR can contribute.

[hawkprey]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1363110243' post='1389038']
Reed is cheap, young, and improving. He has potential in our offense.

Boldin is expensive, old, and declining.

Is that so hard to see? Really don't see the issue.
[/quote] He was almost a true #2 and more importantly, he opens things up for Torrey's double-team by drawing single coverage. Plus he's abused teams #3 corners at times in the slot.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1363110243' post='1389038']
Reed is cheap, young, and improving. He has potential in our offense.

Boldin is expensive, old, and declining.

Is that so hard to see? Really don't see the issue.
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I think we let go of Boldin for many reasons. Here are mine:

1.) Too much invested in WR (draft picks, FA signings, UDFAs)
2.) Too much money
3.) Last year of deal
4.) Inability to separate
5.) Quality WR draft
6.) Quality WR FA.

[Tiz]

[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1363110243' post='1389038']
Reed is cheap, young, and improving. He has potential in our offense.

Boldin is expensive, old, and declining.

Is that so hard to see? Really don't see the issue.
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Yet anquan was stronger in the playoffs than early in the season
That's like the opposite of declining.

And even if reed I proves and anquan declines it doesn't mean that reed is ale to match what anquan can do.
Its like saying that brandon weeden is improving and Peyton manning is declining so go with weeden. Never mind that weeden would just be Improving from horrible to mediocre

[Tiz]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1363111215' post='1389079']

I think we let go of Boldin for many reasons. Here are mine:

1.) Too much invested in WR (draft picks, FA signings, UDFAs)
2.) Too much money
3.) Last year of deal
4.) Inability to separate
5.) Quality WR draft
6.) Quality WR FA.
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Under cam it seemed like we didnt use enough of the wr corp
It could be under Caldwell we will spread out more and youth + speed will be the goal.
So yeah it could be about the scheme change and the desire to e come a faster paced offense

[UMDan]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1363110435' post='1389046']
He's been a good gunner on special teams from day one. What's so hard to understand about that? Catching passes and returning kicks or punts aren't the only ways a WR can contribute.
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I just always have flashbacks to that Seattle game in 2011.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='UMDan' timestamp='1363111734' post='1389097']


I just always have flashbacks to that Seattle game in 2011.
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One game does not make a career for David Reed or Manti Te'o or Joe Flacco or Ray Rice. People need to wake up here. Not saying you believe that. I am making a general comment and yours made me remember this.

[The Raven]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1363110829' post='1389069']
He was almost a true #2 and more importantly, he opens things up for Torrey's double-team by drawing single coverage. Plus he's abused teams #3 corners at times in the slot.
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Lol!

[blackbird29]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1363097077' post='1388540']
Why not? What is unimpressive? His KR skills? His ability to be a quality ST gunner? His ST value? His very limited involvement as a WR so far? The fact that all he has done as a WR are end arounds (if I am not mistaken), the fact that he has been injured twice? The fumbles?

Let's not condemn a man here before proper trial. JJ was cut by the Texans because of his history. He blew up here. Sometimes, all a guy needs is a chance.
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Well I am all about giving chances. I hope he proves everyone wrong. Me included. I just haven't seen much of anything out of him. Except yes...injuries and fumbles. But maybe a new OC and more action will help him improve. Time will tell.

[Tiz]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1363111915' post='1389102']

One game does not make a career for David Reed or Manti Te'o or Joe Flacco or Ray Rice. People need to wake up here. Not saying you believe that. I am making a general comment and yours made me remember this.
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Or jacoby whom we were able to get because of his really bad game against us the year before

[Ravens_destiny]

This one makes no sense, in any offensive situation he is the least reliable guy i would want to be counting. Most pros thrive under pressure but not him. I would not put a lot of time into him, Dixon or Doss. None of them will come close to a Boldin type of player. All three have just drop to many passes and Dixon is starting to remind me of another receiver we invested in that got the alligator arms when he hers those foot steps.

[PurpleCityLights]

[quote name='Hardbaugh' timestamp='1363090775' post='1388383']
I'm glad the front office is spending the two million saved from Boldin wisely. I mean what will this team do without David Reed? Hopefully the sixth round pick will be great as well.
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This.

[PurpleCityLights]

That 2mil could have gone to Vonta.....

[dhstandard]

[quote name='TDubbs' timestamp='1363091607' post='1388399']
He's still got potential to be a receiver for us. More importantly I think, we need an extra return guy now. Jacoby is going to get more playing time w/ the offense with the departure of Boldin. Will be on Special Teams less I would assume.
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Deonte Thompson?

[PurpleCityLights]

[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1363110829' post='1389069']
He was almost a true #2 and more importantly, he opens things up for Torrey's double-team by drawing single coverage. Plus he's abused teams #3 corners at times in the slot.
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Lol ^^ Dude you smoking something, none of that is true lmao.

[BMORE_96]

[quote name='PurpleCityLights' timestamp='1363115337' post='1389249']
That 2mil could have gone to Vonta.....
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To be truthful, I am waiting for us to cut vonta. I believe Ozzie is going for big players in fa by saving up over 10 mil in cap(after rfa tenders).

[baltravens]

Man, I hope this guy has his head screwed on straight if he is going to be on next year's final roster.

[jdynamite]

[quote name='Tiz' timestamp='1363096811' post='1388527']
Because your offseason roster will consist of more than 53 people
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[quote name='Juviebest' timestamp='1363099728' post='1388670']
We do need special teams players correct? And it's a small contract with a low guarantee.
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[quote name='jaege' timestamp='1363108689' post='1388948']
Well, because, according to all his fanboys, he never got a chance to really show his stuff. God forbid he doesn't get a chance. But, if memory serves he did get a chance. He played a few snaps and, as I remember, he FAILED to perform. Either he couldn't get open or he dropped the ball. The coaching staff must not have been very impressed since they never gave him another chance.

But as others have said it is a cheap signing, and a mistake that is easily corrected at no cost. Well little cost. There was a 500k signing bonus I believe. He is good on special teams and he is fast so tends to get to the returner quickly. Not a bad signing I guess.
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@ Tiz that is a true statement I can't argue that, but I have seen enough of David Reed, I'm more interested in seeing Thompson and Streeter next season along whomever else falls through the cracks to become part of the preseason tramping camp 90 man crew.

@ Juviebest - I prefer LaQuan handling those same special teams duties over Reed, Jacoby has the returns down, Streeter was a good gunner in college also I expect that to carry over, and there is always a chance to pick up a special teamer late in the draft or as undrafted FA, and yeah its a cheap deal so that is a positive. If the signing was purely a special teams move then it would be Considine signed before him

@ jaege - exactly David Reed does seem to have some fans that believe he needs his "chance" I remember people on the boards defending him and his potential to compete for the 3 WR spot before the season, I'm constantly saying the kid played 2 full seasons and had not caught a pass yet, he was a very solid KR until the Seattle meltdown, now he finally recorded a few catches this past season thats a positive yeah, but I'd still prefer to have L.Williams, D.Thompson, T.Streeter over him, but if he is a roster filler for now sure.

[redravenfan]

as a special teams player he does contribute to the game . and teams are important I can't speak to his receiving ability as i can't remember every seeing him in the slot on the field catching,,,, etc

[Tiz]

Jd I'm not saying I wanna see alot of David reed just that its not a big deal that he is back with us. Think Laquan gets more reps than reed anyway

[jaege]

Yeah, Reed has some fans alright. Doss too. For the life of me, I do not know why. Neither one has done a thing for having been in the league for multiple years. Besides get hurt. Not much of a resume. Still I see a lot of folks go on and on about how they just need that chance. But both have played numerous snaps and have not delivered. What sort of chance do they need? Its so pathetic that it is funny.

Still they are cheap and can play special teams, which is an important role.

[Ravensfan23]

I really like thiis move. Ozzie knows the value of building a team long term. If you are thinking he's the signing that Boldin was cut for don't. This was a move to help continue to develop the passing game. I've always liked Reed and think he has the size, strength, balance, hands and quickness to be a heck of a slot guy. He was just never used. Caldwell will at least give this guy a shot to show and prove.

The has great return and ST value imo and that's something he can bring to the offense. Reed has strong hands, wide catch radius and competes well for the ball in 50/50 situations. I strongly feel he'll get a legit chance to finally show what he was drafted for. I know a lot of people will disagree but I don't think the Ravens need to and hope they don't sign a veteran WR. Put these young guys out their and make compete.

All these guys should be given that shot that they weren't under Cam. I'm not sure that people truly know the talent the Ravens have a WR.