Anquan Boldin Traded to the San Francisco 49ers

[Cville-Raven]

Only one I can think of was a horrible throw by flacco that boldin stretched out to get 1 hand on while reaching down. If you call that a drop then you dont understand what a drop is. If your attempting to argue that boldin doesnt have great hands then you obviously dont watch ravens games.

There was that pick route where it was perfectly thrown and he simply dropped it. He was even signaling "my bad".

[melvinmelon123]

Only one I can think of was a horrible throw by flacco that boldin stretched out to get 1 hand on while reaching down. If you call that a drop then you dont understand what a drop is. If your attempting to argue that boldin doesnt have great hands then you obviously dont watch ravens games.

Just to clear this up, the other drop came on the drive where we tried the fake FG run. It was around the ten yard line and Boldin just didn't catch the ball, it was almost intercepted too.

[JO_75]

This should calm everyone down... from Schefter:

Told me today in AZ he expects to play next season in Baltimore with existing deal.

[MrPlankton]

I have no idea what's going on now. Who is right?

[beasy2487]

I have no idea what's going on now. Who is right?

Fox Sports says Boldin's gone, ESPN says he's going nowhere. Personally, I blame Obama.

[Ravensuperfan1]

not believing anything till I hear Boldin or someone form the Ravens officially comment on the issue. Releasing Boldin would be the dumbest move.....(remembers Kyle Boller).....ok second dumbest move the Ravens have ever made. I think to highly of our front office to listen to such hogwash

[JO_75]

I have no idea what's going on now. Who is right?

Who knows, I mean according to one tweet Schefter says Boldin told him he expects to play out on his current deal. Then another tweet said he was seen sprinting past the media as he was leaving and had no comment on today's news.

Anquan Boldin just sprinted past media at the Kurt Warner Ultimate Football Experience and left the event early. No comment on today's news.

[GrimCoconut]

Lol, this is entertaining.

I suggest people take some Ativan before we have hospital admissions grow in a matter of hours in Baltimore & its surrounding counties. Boldin's not released yet. Wait and see.

But there is a point to both arguments. You can make an argument to cut Boldin to save money to extend young guys. You can also make an argument to keep Boldin due to how clutch he played in 2012 and especially when Cam was Canned.

Personally, I would be fine either way. It makes sense both ways to me. Not sure I like the idea of restructuring Boldin, personally. I think it's fine for this year, but I want to pay guys like Pitta, Jones, maybe Cody or Oher if they explode this year. Those players are young and up and coming. Boldin's great, a beast, but let's face it: he's at the end of the game. How much juice is in those tanks?

[rmw10]

I find it interesting that Boldin would be the first cut of the tough decisions, regardless of his salary. Guys like Leach, Ayanbadejo, and others are still out there that seem to have less of a spot on this team than Boldin. Cutting those 2 alone would cover almost $4 million compared to the $6 million we'd save from cutting Boldin. If this indeed does turn out to be true, I guess the Ravens are content with moving on and giving their younger players a chance to contribute.

[Cville-Raven]

In all honesty Boldin is going to have to be replaced eventually anyway. I personally don't believe he is going to be cut, but with the depth at receiver in this year in the draft it could be possible. I was expecting Torrey to take over #1 duties regardless of whether Boldin is here or not. Boldin in reality has a year or two left in him.

[GrimCoconut]

I find it interesting that Boldin would be the first cut of the tough decisions, regardless of his salary. Guys like Leach, Ayanbadejo, and others are still out there that seem to have less of a spot on this team than Boldin. Cutting those 2 alone would cover almost $4 million compared to the $6 million we'd save from cutting Boldin. If this indeed does turn out to be true, I guess the Ravens are content with moving on and giving their younger players a chance to contribute.

I'm torn on Leach & BA. It makes sense to cut BA, to an extent. We would need to replace his leadership. I can see Considine take over if re-signed for that role. Or perhaps another player.

Leach is a conflict. You lose a great lead blocker for Rice & Pierce. Leach is also one of the very best if not the best at his position. He could prove a major loss to our run game. It's a tricky spot. Boldin's not the #1 player at his position or even top-5. I'm not sure about top-10 either. But I agree with you. Leach's production may be replicated. Boldin may not be easily replicated.

[hawkprey]

Lol, this is entertaining.

I suggest people take some Ativan before we have hospital admissions grow in a matter of hours in Baltimore & its surrounding counties. Boldin's not released yet. Wait and see.

But there is a point to both arguments. You can make an argument to cut Boldin to save money to extend young guys. You can also make an argument to keep Boldin due to how clutch he played in 2012 and especially when Cam was Canned.

Personally, I would be fine either way. It makes sense both ways to me. Not sure I like the idea of restructuring Boldin, personally. I think it's fine for this year, but I want to pay guys like Pitta, Jones, maybe Cody or Oher if they explode this year. Those players are young and up and coming. Boldin's great, a beast, but let's face it: he's at the end of the game. How much juice is in those tanks?

Yeah, either way. We could have a chance to see some of our depth receivers step up. Would people be saying "get rid of Corey Graham" if Webb wasn't injured and he wasn't forced into a starting role? What about Chykie Brown? And where would Bynes be on fans' meter if McClain, Ray, and Ellerbe never missed time? Harewood was a lost cause until he got the chance to play starting guard. And look at what McKinnie did with his shot. Sometimes that's all a guy needs.

[rmw10]

I'm torn on Leach & BA. It makes sense to cut BA, to an extent. We would need to replace his leadership. I can see Considine take over if re-signed for that role. Or perhaps another player.

Leach is a conflict. You lose a great lead blocker for Rice & Pierce. Leach is also one of the very best if not the best at his position. He could prove a major loss to our run game. It's a tricky spot. Boldin's not the #1 player at his position or even top-5. I'm not sure about top-10 either. But I agree with you. Leach's production may be replicated. Boldin may not be easily replicated.

Yeah I mean Leach is obviously a tough decision. But, if you compare their production, or even their snaps played last year, Boldin is clearly more valuable to this team. I love Leach as a player, but I find it hard to pay him such a high salary to play 20-40% of the snaps per game. Boldin, on the other hand, probably played 90% of the snaps last year.

I think it all is coming down to getting those young guys some chances though.

[Inqui]

My concern is the message whatever decision the FO makes would send to the players. We like to be the franchise that's known for taking care of guys that take care of us, as players WANT to stick around and play well. That's why the FO got a lot of respect for paying Joe.

[Inqui]

Whatever happens though, I just hope he doesn't end up at the Cheatriots.

[GrimCoconut]

Yeah, either way. We could have a chance to see some of our depth receivers step up. Would people be saying "get rid of Corey Graham" if Webb wasn't injured and he wasn't forced into a starting role? What about Chykie Brown? And where would Bynes be on fans' meter if McClain, Ray, and Ellerbe never missed time? Harewood was a lost cause until he got the chance to play starting guard. And look at what McKinnie did with his shot. Sometimes that's all a guy needs.

Yeah, that's the delicate balance here. That's why I won't be upset either way. I'll be disappointed if Boldin is gone. Make no mistake. He's an awesome football player. I love everything about the way he plays. I think that's a lost point here. From my limited perspective, to me, it seems like people around here feel like there are two sides: you either want Boldin here or you do not. It's not really like that. It's more complex than that.

For me, I want Boldin here but as long as he is, it's hard to play the other guys we have. Deonte Thompson, David Reed, Tandon Doss, Laquan Williams, Tommy Streeter. We could have a beast in there. I'd hate to cut a Harrison (let's not talk character; just skill) and have it bite us in the rear end later. You know what you get with Boldin. He's awesome. I love him as a player. But Dennis Pitta's game is really similar to Boldin's at this point, and that kind of says that Boldin plays a lot like a TE than he does a WR. That's not an insult but it's not a compliment, either. It's rather in-between.

We can't keep all these players. It's not possible. We will be forced into making tough cuts, and so I can see us cut Boldin to get more out of our depth players and perhaps a guy we draft this year. It sucks. I know. But, it's not the end of the world.

[GrimCoconut]

Yeah I mean Leach is obviously a tough decision. But, if you compare their production, or even their snaps played last year, Boldin is clearly more valuable to this team. I love Leach as a player, but I find it hard to pay him such a high salary to play 20-40% of the snaps per game. Boldin, on the other hand, probably played 90% of the snaps last year.

I think it all is coming down to getting those young guys some chances though.

See, I know exactly what you are saying but I'm not quite in agreement here. Yeah, Boldin played a lot of snaps but there is a huge difference between Leach & Boldin. Leach is the definition of quality over quantity. While Leach played whatever amount of snaps, he was definitely more productive on his snaps than Boldin. I'm not insulting Boldin here, but I'd take a productive player over an unproductive one any day, and while I get what you're saying, Leach is consistent and while Boldin makes TOUGH catches, he has his own issues. Leach's outproduces Boldin when he is on the field. I'm sure if there was some way of measuring production based on snaps, Leach would grade extremely high and Boldin would grade lower. That's obvious due to the amount of snaps Boldin has taken, I know. But that does have an impact on the game.

[Ravensuperfan1]

I'm torn on Leach & BA. It makes sense to cut BA, to an extent. We would need to replace his leadership. I can see Considine take over if re-signed for that role. Or perhaps another player.

Leach is a conflict. You lose a great lead blocker for Rice & Pierce. Leach is also one of the very best if not the best at his position. He could prove a major loss to our run game. It's a tricky spot. Boldin's not the #1 player at his position or even top-5. I'm not sure about top-10 either. But I agree with you. Leach's production may be replicated. Boldin may not be easily replicated.

I want to keep Leacj if possible. Fullbacks are very underrated in the NFL right now. Leach is the best there is and he really helps us in our power running game. We can do 1 back sets, but its very helpful to put a true fullback in the backfield and get a power running game going. Despite what people think we are still a heavy run team. We take shots deep and Joe can run a 2 minute offense, but we are shown to be post effective when we keep defenses honest with a heavy doss of running plays.

BA can go, he's played well for us, got a ring and is as old as Ray Lewis. More importantly he didn't play well this year. Thought he was good last year, but I vividly remember his missed tackles on those kickoffs and punts that almost killed us this year.

There are a few players I'd cut before Boldin and after this season I really don't see how u let him go. Mans got 3 more years left at least. I get the logic in letting Leach go, but I'd still keep him.

Don't really see the need for BA. Love the man he's a great individual that fights for the right reasons but I think his best days are behind him

[rmw10]

See, I know exactly what you are saying but I'm not quite in agreement here. Yeah, Boldin played a lot of snaps but there is a huge difference between Leach & Boldin. Leach is the definition of quality over quantity. While Leach played whatever amount of snaps, he was definitely more productive on his snaps than Boldin. I'm not insulting Boldin here, but I'd take a productive player over an unproductive one any day, and while I get what you're saying, Leach is consistent and while Boldin makes TOUGH catches, he has his own issues. Leach's outproduces Boldin when he is on the field. I'm sure if there was some way of measuring production based on snaps, Leach would grade extremely high and Boldin would grade lower. That's obvious due to the amount of snaps Boldin has taken, I know. But that does have an impact on the game.

I get what you're saying. It's obviously much easier to contribute as a FB since it usually means that there is going to be a run. A lot of Boldin's snaps resulted in him being a decoy or just not getting open. I'm just looking at Leach's high salary and finding it somewhat difficult to justify paying him that much, especially against a tight cap.

With that being said, I wouldn't be opposed to having Boldin and/or Leach on the team next year. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Boldin and/or Leach cut as well.

[GrimCoconut]

I want to keep Leacj if possible. Fullbacks are very underrated in the NFL right now. Leach is the best there is and he really helps us in our power running game. We can do 1 back sets, but its very helpful to put a true fullback in the backfield and get a power running game going. Despite what people think we are still a heavy run team. We take shots deep and Joe can run a 2 minute offense, but we are shown to be post effective when we keep defenses honest with a heavy doss of running plays.

BA can go, he's played well for us, got a ring and is as old as Ray Lewis. More importantly he didn't play well this year. Thought he was good last year, but I vividly remember his missed tackles on those kickoffs and punts that almost killed us this year.

There are a few players I'd cut before Boldin and after this season I really don't see how u let him go. Mans got 3 more years left at least. I get the logic in letting Leach go, but I'd still keep him.

Don't really see the need for BA. Love the man he's a great individual that fights for the right reasons but I think his best days are behind him

See, my issue with cutting Leach is you've invested 7.5M a year average into a RB. It's true the FB position isn't what it was, but to lose a FB for your franchise RB seems like a big risk. If we cut him, I will feel like it was the right choice. Not that the Ravens are perfect here--we've made bad choices before. What I am saying is that I'll trust in the FO to make the right choice. I really don't know. Perhaps Damien Berry or Anthony Allen have been groomed to be the FBs of this team. I'm not sure. Perhaps we make a run at Felton. Don't know.

If we did cut Leach, I would want Delanie Walker. He brings a LOT to the football team: AWESOME special teams player, a HECK of a blocker in the run game, and can catch some balls here and there--similar to Leach. The biggest thing--the worst thing--we lose with Leach is how he ran HARD. That will be missed. You could put him at RB and he would get you a yard or two. Almost guaranteed.

Leach is probably the most productive player on the team. I know he only plays 20% or whatever the number is of snaps, but in those 20% of his snaps he plays like a monster and is productive as anyone on this football team.

[GrimCoconut]

I get what you're saying. It's obviously much easier to contribute as a FB since it usually means that there is going to be a run. A lot of Boldin's snaps resulted in him being a decoy or just not getting open. I'm just looking at Leach's high salary and finding it somewhat difficult to justify paying him that much, especially against a tight cap.

With that being said, I wouldn't be opposed to having Boldin and/or Leach on the team next year. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see Boldin and/or Leach cut as well.

Here, we both agree.

Personally, I'd love for the Ravens to sign Delanie Walker if we did cut Leach and/or Boldin. He can block, is a HECK of a ST player & can catch some balls here and there (lol, I know I said this already, but I really like Delanie).

[Ravensuperfan1]

See, my issue with cutting Leach is you've invested 7.5M a year average into a RB. It's true the FB position isn't what it was, but to lose a FB for your franchise RB seems like a big risk. If we cut him, I will feel like it was the right choice. Not that the Ravens are perfect here--we've made bad choices before. What I am saying is that I'll trust in the FO to make the right choice. I really don't know. Perhaps Damien Berry or Anthony Allen have been groomed to be the FBs of this team. I'm not sure. Perhaps we make a run at Felton. Don't know.

If we did cut Leach, I would want Delanie Walker. He brings a LOT to the football team: AWESOME special teams player, a HECK of a blocker in the run game, and can catch some balls here and there--similar to Leach. The biggest thing--the worst thing--we lose with Leach is how he ran HARD. That will be missed. You could put him at RB and he would get you a yard or two. Almost guaranteed.

Leach is probably the most productive player on the team. I know he only plays 20% or whatever the number is of snaps, but in those 20% of his snaps he plays like a monster and is productive as anyone on this football team.

Don't forget Leach also had good hands. Man could catch the ball and run. I love Leach man he looks for the contact and loves to blow up LBs. Will never forget him demolishing Patrick Willis

making Damien Berry or Anthony Allen fullbacks seems like a bad idea. Just cause Allen throws some good blocks on Kickoff return doesn't mean he's a good fullback. I don't want to go back to another Le'Ron McClain, just a FB who wants to be a RB.

[rmw10]

Here, we both agree.

Personally, I'd love for the Ravens to sign Delanie Walker if we did cut Leach and/or Boldin. He can block, is a HECK of a ST player & can catch some balls here and there (lol, I know I said this already, but I really like Delanie).

I agree about Walker. Great player that seems to do it all, just never gets the recognition. He's exactly the type of player I see the Ravens going after.

[Ravensuperfan1]

All I know is without Leach our running game will not be as good. And without Boldin we won't be competing for a SB next year

[VitaminMawc]

Boldin turned it on the playoffs that is fact. Anything to do with Caldwell? If only we could average Boldin's 4 PO games to a 16 game season. He would be worth that 7mil.

If he averaged what he was in the PO's hed be around 80-90 catches for 1400-1500 yards w/ 12-16 TD's.

Personally I hope he stays put.

[Ravensuperfan1]

Boldin turned it on the playoffs that is fact. Anything to do with Caldwell? If only we could average Boldin's 4 PO games to a 16 game season. He would be worth that 7mil.

If he averaged what he was in the PO's hed be around 80-90 catches for 1400-1500 yards w/ 12-16 TD's.

If Caldwell was the OC all year our offense and Boldin would have been a lot better. Will never forget how he saved us in Arizona last year. The man can turn it on when we need him the most. All we have to remember to do is throw him the ball.

Just cause a CB is on Boldin doesn't mean he's covered that is how good he is. To truly cover Boldin you need to be a top tier CB in this league. Talib was doing a good job on him till Boldin pulled his hamstring. After that it was soff to the races. You all are acting like Boldin can't run he got behind people plenty of times this year, and when Joe threw a good ball he could catch it.

No other reciever on our team or free agency can catch contested balls or in traffic like Q can.The man is so big and strong and can hold onto the ball no matter how hard he is hit.

[cobrajet]

I have been told it's business not personal. well personally i think this is a bad decision . i could sit and list at least ten players who can go so this doesn't happen .

Exactly what I was thinking.

[Tank 92]

Q is going nowhere, Bank on it.

[RavensPunkXVX]

I was so happy when they got rid of McClain for Leach. Leach is a TRUE fullback. He doesn't want rushing yards, he wants to deck you, and help the guy behind him get yards. I love bruisers.

Not to turn this into a Leach thread. I hope we retain Boldin though. But the entire offense will suffer without a stud LT.

[Ravensuperfan1]

I was so happy when they got rid of McClain for Leach. Leach is a TRUE fullback. He doesn't want rushing yards, he wants to deck you, and help the guy behind him get yards. I love bruisers.

Not to turn this into a Leach thread. I hope we retain Boldin though. But the entire offense will suffer without a stud LT.

that is what the draft is for