Anquan Boldin Traded to the San Francisco 49ers

[gabefergy]

Let me think about that for a moment. Yes?

Boldin is slow as molasses, no arguing about it. Doesn't mean he can't make tough catches, but every single one is contested because the dude cant get open.

The question is who do the Ravens want Ed Reed or Q?

[The Raven]

in your opinion its shortsighted . in my opinion i would rather pay a productive playmaker then a guy who gets injured allot and may ride the bench half the season. joe needs people to throw to that can actually catch torrey is not good at getting seperation when he does he's good . pitta has good hands boldin has better hands and he is a physical reciever.

If Torrey isn't good at getting separation, then Boldin might as well be running routes in a wheelchair. Boldin gets ZERO separation and the only reason he gets as many catches as he does is because he has outstanding body control, perfect hands, and Joe trusts him.

[ravensfan160]

What most people don't understand, is that only bad teams pay players for what they have done in the past. Good teams realize when it's time to move on, we did it with Mason, we did it with Heap, we may do it with Boldin. I understand people want him back, but sometimes you have to sit back and realize how foolish it really is to cling to vain pedigrees and past glories.

The only argument I have is it seems clear to me that Q has another 2 or 3 good years left if not more. Mason was 35 or 36 when we released him. Q is only 32 and he is already slower than offensive lineman so there is no concern with him losing a step as he gets older.

[Ravens_destiny]

I would do everything in my power to keep Boldin, he was Joe's new D'Mase. He made Joe look good with quite a few errant throws. If it had been Doss out there i think Joe's Passer ratings would take a big hit. Between Boldin and Jones who fight hard for the ball and keeping drives going.

Boldin was Key to our surge in the end and Jones should have been MVP in the Big show.

[The Raven]

Boldin is slow as molasses, no arguing about it. Doesn't mean he can't make tough catches, but every single one is contested because the dude cant get open.

The question is who do the Ravens want Ed Reed or Q?

I can vouch for this. Boldin is slow as hell and only gets truly open against zone coverage.

[GrimCoconut]

We have about 10 ERFAs too.

True. We usually sign back all of our ERFAs, too. Just like RFAs & not cutting draft picks.

As for Ellerbe, I don't know about keeping him for 5-6M. I like Ellerbe, but that's a lot of dough. We might feel forced into it with the uncertainty at ILB with Lewis retired & McClain injured.

If Ellerbe will be expensive, I would rather let him, Kruger & Williams all walk and bring back Ed Reed. His leadership is really important to our defense, more than even Boldin's on the offense. We can rake in the comp picks in 2014 if we don't go crazy this year. We can use the money if we do cut Boldin to keep Reed, extend guys like Dennis Pitta (IMO, far more vital than Boldin going forward), maybe even Oher if the FO really wants to keep him and get some cheap veterans in FA to fill holes at NT, LB, even DE (pass rusher).

[Ravensuperfan1]

Boldin is slow as molasses, no arguing about it. Doesn't mean he can't make tough catches, but every single one is contested because the dude cant get open.

The question is who do the Ravens want Ed Reed or Q?

Boldin is as fast as Jerry Rice and that is good enough for me. He has great burst off the line and is an expert at faking out

defenders.

Ravens can't afford to let Q or Ed Reed go.

I don't think you all realize how bad our recieving corps becomes without Boldin.

Basically we have Torrey Smith , Boldin and Dennis Pitta. If we lose on of those guys our receiving corps is not very good.

Dickson is a nice guy but has butterfingers. Jacoby Jones is a 3rd wide receiver at best, he makes his money on special teams though.

Tandon Doss, Laquan Williams and David Reed are just not good. I'm sorry they are not. And out history of drafting wide receivers is not great.

If you can keep a great player like Boldin you do. Flacco lives off the chunk plays and deep balls and no one is better on our team at making those catches than Boldin. We lose Boldin our offense becomes a lot less dangerous and we will not be competing for a Superbowl next year

[Ravenseconbeast]

Boldin is slow as molasses, no arguing about it. Doesn't mean he can't make tough catches, but every single one is contested because the dude cant get open.

The question is who do the Ravens want Ed Reed or Q?

You also said he can't get TDs?

Its pretty clear you want Q gone. You don't need to insult him and say he slow as 'molasses'.

[The Raven]

You also said he can't get TDs?

Its pretty clear you want Q gone. You don't need to insult him and say he slow as 'molasses'.

But he is...

[Grapple Raven]

If the article from Rotoworld is correct and this is about cutting Boldin to keep Ellerbe...if you look at overall production and durability, and not from just this season, this seems like bad business decision to me. Once people realize that the MLB position isn't as important as it was when Lewis was here (strengthen the front seven), it just doesn't justify overpaying Ellerbe when there are viable, cheaper options in the draft. The last thing you would want to do is weaken the offense at this point at the expense of the defense, and I think Boldin's absence weakens the offense not only from losing a "clutch" player, but from a leadership and "coaching up" perspective. Glad I am not in Ozzie's shoes.

[Free Agent]

I really think there is a good chance Ellerbe may join Kruger & Williams as FAs who do not return in 2013.

I hope not. Of the three, he's the one we need to bring back the most.

[Ravensuperfan1]

The thing about Boldin is he is always open. Unless he is being covered by Revis he will make the catch if the ball is halfway decently thrown

[The Raven]

The thing about Boldin is he is always open. Unless he is being covered by Revis he will make the catch if the ball is halfway decently thrown

Sorry, just no. I love Q but the fact is he is hardly ever open.

[Moderator 3]

If the article from Rotoworld is correct and this is about cutting Boldin to keep Ellerbe...if you look at overall production and durability, and not from just this season, this seems like bad business decision to me. Once people realize that the MLB position isn't as important as it was when Lewis was here (strengthen the front seven), it just doesn't justify overpaying Ellerbe when there are viable, cheaper options in the draft. The last thing you would want to do is weaken the offense at this point at the expense of the defense, and I think Boldin's absence weakens the offense not only from losing a "clutch" player, but from a leadership and "coaching up" perspective. Glad I am not in Ozzie's shoes.

I think the issue is losing BOTH of our experience MLBs in one year as opposed to losing 1 experienced WR.

[Free Agent]

If the article from Rotoworld is correct and this is about cutting Boldin to keep Ellerbe...if you look at overall production and durability, and not from just this season, this seems like bad business decision to me. Once people realize that the MLB position isn't as important as it was when Lewis was here (strengthen the front seven), it just doesn't justify overpaying Ellerbe when there are viable, cheaper options in the draft. The last thing you would want to do is weaken the offense at this point at the expense of the defense, and I think Boldin's absence weakens the offense not only from losing a "clutch" player, but from a leadership and "coaching up" perspective. Glad I am not in Ozzie's shoes.

I see your point, but Boldin has two or three years left in him. Ellerbe has the majority of his career ahead of him, and I don't even think he's reached his prime.

While I would agree that we shouldn't overpay Ellerbe to keep him around, I think we need to pay him enough to bring him back. We have never been a team that drafts for need, so I doubt Ozzie would want to enter the draft with a gaping hole at MLB.

[Ravensuperfan1]

Sorry, just no. I love Q but the fact is he is hardly ever open.

Nah man, even when he's covered he is open. That is how good he is. Torrey and our otehr recievers actually need significant separation Boldin's pretty much always open just don't throw it right toward the defender and Boldin can pretty much make the completion

[Ravensuperfan1]

If the article from Rotoworld is correct and this is about cutting Boldin to keep Ellerbe...if you look at overall production and durability, and not from just this season, this seems like bad business decision to me. Once people realize that the MLB position isn't as important as it was when Lewis was here (strengthen the front seven), it just doesn't justify overpaying Ellerbe when there are viable, cheaper options in the draft. The last thing you would want to do is weaken the offense at this point at the expense of the defense, and I think Boldin's absence weakens the offense not only from losing a "clutch" player, but from a leadership and "coaching up" perspective. Glad I am not in Ozzie's shoes.

I like Ellerbe but all the numbers I'm hearing for him are too much. He should good improvement this year, lost some weight was faster and was still good despite playing injured.

Overall I'd say Jameel was more consistant though pre-injury. Really hope he can get healthy nd come back. More than 18 million seems like too much for Ellerbe. Not blaming him for trying to cash in, but if I'm looking at his body of work prior to this year hard to offer him more than 22 million, with the expectation he will get better.

[Guest RBates]

This is a good thing. Maybe he signs a cap friendly extension. We need him next year!

Sure lets Rob Anquan to overpay Flacco.......SMH

[Purple_ICE 81]

We all new this was going to happen...no surprise here Anquan Boldin is going to get released. I think Boldin will allow other teams to contact him based on his agents comments and I think all in all he may just end up retiring.

After releasing Boldin we will go after Dennelle Ellerbe and Ed Reed...and may have a hard time retaining them it looks like they both will hit the free agent market where they are very sought after as well.

Hopefully we can atleast retain Ed Reed, Dennelle Ellerbe and maybe Bryant Mckinnie. After the Ravens do release Boldin we should have close to 20M in cap space freed up so we can make legitament trials at all our FAs except for the uber expensive ones.

I think once we sift through our FAs and keep the important ones, I think we will go after Anquan Boldin to see if we can resign him aslong as he wants to keep playing football. If for some reason he retires I think we draft another receiver as we did in 2011...in the 2nd round then go with Torrey, Jacoby, Doss "new guy" and have open competition in training camp. Maybe even sign a cheap FA WR.

[evass#ravensnation]

Who cares if he's slow we have Torrey and Jacoby for that !!!!! He catches anything thrown his way no matter the coverage, I'm sorry to say but we would be celebrating right now if it wasn't for Q

[Purple_ICE 81]

Sure lets Rob Anquan to overpay Flacco.......SMH

No I HAVE AN IDEA!!!!!! Lets trade Joe Flacco for Kirk Cousins!!!!!!

[Alexir]

Just because it's not about the money doesn't mean he doesn't need the money.

School teachers do their job for the reward of teaching and inspiring students but they aren't doing it for free. I would be very upset if we cut Boldin.

I would rather have him on the team than Ed Reed honestly.

[Alexir]

Who cares if he's slow we have Torrey and Jacoby for that !!!!! He catches anything thrown his way no matter the coverage, I'm sorry to say but we would be celebrating right now if it wasn't for Q

Some people think it's all about speed. Anquan Boldin was our go to guy, he is like the Heap/Mason role on this team.

Not doubting anyone's ability but our WR Corps would be downgraded by releasing him by a large margin if we go to a David Reed or Tandon Doss.

[Purple_ICE 81]

Some people think it's all about speed. Anquan Boldin was our go to guy, he is like the Heap/Mason role on this team.

Not doubting anyone's ability but our WR Corps would be downgraded by releasing him by a large margin if we go to a David Reed or Tandon Doss.

The greatest WR of all time ran a 4.71 40 yard dash, if you have great hands and ball skills I'll take that over speed every day of the week. And Boldin still makes big 30-40 yard catches and puts up 100yds a game. He will most definitely be hard to replace.

[RavensPunkXVX]

The only guy I like on the field in terms of possession in relation to Q is Dennis Pitta. Although he is TE, he's got pretty good hands. This only opens up an opportunity for Doss. Rather see him on the field than David Reed. Why is he still with the team?

Glad Q is going elsewhere if he's going to get his money. He deserves it.

[Guest RBates]

No I HAVE AN IDEA!!!!!! Lets trade Joe Flacco for Kirk Cousins!!!!!!

Great idea ^^^^^^^^^^^ arent you missing another piece though?

[RavensPunkXVX]

The greatest WR of all time ran a 4.71 40 yard dash, if you have great hands and ball skills I'll take that over speed every day of the week. And Boldin still makes big 30-40 yard catches and puts up 100yds a game. He will most definitely be hard to replace.

I agree. Ravens had a nice balance with speed and possession. I really don't wanna be loaded with speed guys. Q was the guy that could go up and pull it down and even if he was "slow," he had 100 yard games.

[AsianRice]

I've always supported the idea of bring Q back; Q is an essential, crucial part of our offense for next 2 years. During that time, we can find Q replacement, but right now nobody can replace Q's production and leadership.

I hope Ozzie places his priority on Boldin instead of Ellerbe because Ozzie is the master or genius of drafting defensive players. He can find us a good or great MLB from the draft or through FA.

Joe is the general of the offense and Q is the colonel of the offense so we need Q to lead the WR corps....

Like some of us have mentioned, we can add bonuses on Q's contract so his salary won't affect the cap issues that much...

[MrPlankton]

I'd hate to see Anquan go, but I guess the FO is wondering how much left he has in him. It's unfortunate, but that's the reality of the situation. You pay for guys based on not just their past accomplishments, but their ability to succeed in the future.

[Purple_ICE 81]

Great idea ^^^^^^^^^^^ arent you missing another piece though?

I dont know it was your idea...you probably wanted to trade Terrell Suggs and Haloti Ngata as well