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Anquan Boldin Traded to the San Francisco 49ers

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I still think the main problem was the offensive line whether we had Boldin or not.

And Pitta getting hurt really put a damper on the plans, in my opinion.

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I bet on one of the young guys stepping up and I was wrong. I always wanted us to keep him but I didn't think his loss would hurt as much as it did.

Motivation for a new contract and being angry at getting traded could've played a huge factor in his success in San Fran. Also the system, play calling and players around him benefited him more than ours could've.

There's no doubt we missed him and I wish we could've extended him, but at the time I think it was an understandable move by the front office.

Would having Boldin last year made us contenders? I don't think so. We'd probably make the playoffs but likely be a one and done...WR was one of our biggest issues but our offensive line and Ray Rice playing like [profanity deleted], with Pitta being hurt was just as impactful IMO.

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Only 2 moves upset me. #1 was Boldin and the 2nd being Ellerbe. I understood both, but felt the organization didn't have to get rid of Boldin and still could have maintained the defense. Financially it made sense and also in the sense he only had 1 year left, but would've liked to keep him. It did open the door for Marlon Brown though.

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A few months back, a 9ers fan on another forum asked me what I think of the Boldin trade with hindsight, and I stand by what I said then: if I'm Ozzie and I get to go back in time, I'd still make the trade.

 

Many fans see things in a vacuum: letting him go affects our offence, our offence sucks as a result. Personally, I feel that's a bit short-sighted. Ozzie makes a living by seeing things in the bigger picture. That means in terms of this past season (trading Boldin - who was in a contract year - gave us the cap room to sign Dumervil, Canty, Spears and Huff to lengthier deals. We added a quality pass rusher and addressed a huge weakness in the middle of the d-line), but it also means in terms of the future (again factoring in the multi-year contracts, but also the chance to see what Torrey can do as a WR1 and giving Marlon the chance to emerge). We even managed to trade up for Arthur Brown with the pick we got.

 

Whether or not I'd make the trade again also assumes I don't know how the o-line will fare and not predicting Pitta's injury. Yes I get the depth argument, but $7.5m is a bit heavy for said depth, and I still support Ozzie's decision to shift that money from an underproducing WR (playoffs run aside) into a major area of weakness.

 

What grates the most, even though it shouldn't really, is when people blame Joe's contract for trading him - even though Boldin carried the bigger hit.

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We only went 8-8 because of the offensive line, and the only thing that kept us from being worse than 8-8 was that defense. It was tough to see in the moment, but our defense kept us in games. We lost more games because of our offense than we did because of our defense. Because of that, I think we made the right move.

 

Boldin would not have been missed as badly if we had a running game. Simple as that. 

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What grates the most, even though it shouldn't really, is when people blame Joe's contract for trading him - even though Boldin carried the bigger hit.

Yeah, that drives me nuts.

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We only went 8-8 because of the offensive line, and the only thing that kept us from being worse than 8-8 was that defense. It was tough to see in the moment, but our defense kept us in games. We lost more games because of our offense than we did because of our defense. Because of that, I think we made the right move.

 

Boldin would not have been missed as badly if we had a running game. Simple as that

Yeah what he said! Cannot put it better than that, Nailed it!

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can we please let this go.

 

its like  :deadhorse:

 

Unless Boldin would have stopped castillo for becoming the o-line coach and changing stuff and would stop pitta for being hurt, it would have hurt us more keeping him.

 

1 san fran has a much better o-line , its not even close.

2 they have a running game teams must respect.

3 they have a dual threath QB teams must respect.

4 in baltimore boldin is the top receiver, in san fran vernon davis is the receiver to stop along with crabtree later on.

 

there is no way boldin would have done what he did in san fran if he stayed with the ravens....

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Well it looks like Boldin has been traded to the 49ers for a 6th round pick. Chump change in my opinion. I'm surprised he wasn't offered an extension. I can see this one biting us in the butt.

It saves a lot of cap room but we just completely disrespected a veteran player.

I thought the same! It appeared both, disrespectful and arrogant. The WR situation here last season shows that Karma does exist. Hopefully, the debt has been paid. 

 

I like Pitta and glad they re-signed him and was intrigued that the amount was about equal to what they would have paid Boldin on the final year of his contract. Maybe they learned from that situation. 

 

 

The date of the post I am responding to shows that he nailed it well before the bad happened. Some saw this coming and some never will.

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can we please let this go.

its like :deadhorse:

Unless Boldin would have stopped castillo for becoming the o-line coach and changing stuff and would stop pitta for being hurt, it would have hurt us more keeping him.

1 san fran has a much better o-line , its not even close.

2 they have a running game teams must respect.

3 they have a dual threath QB teams must respect.

4 in baltimore boldin is the top receiver, in san fran vernon davis is the receiver to stop along with crabtree later on.

there is no way boldin would have done what he did in san fran if he stayed with the ravens....

Totally agree. And when you factor in what Marlon Brown accomplished considering he wouldn't have gotten to even see the field otherwise, it softens the blow even more. Q is a great player, and at the right price it would have been nice to keep him. but on no planet is what he brings to the table on a team with a porous OLine and no running game worth the number of players we were able to bring in at that price tag. we were at best an 8-8 team even with him and if Ozzie didn't think he was worth 6 mill last year, he'd think he's worth even less a year later and a year older, so we'd be in the same situation.

Move on. Nothing more to see here.

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We only went 8-8 because of the offensive line, and the only thing that kept us from being worse than 8-8 was that defense. It was tough to see in the moment, but our defense kept us in games. We lost more games because of our offense than we did because of our defense. Because of that, I think we made the right move.

 

Boldin would not have been missed as badly if we had a running game. Simple as that. 

 

You cannot separate the two out, it's all tied in together. Stones (plural) dropped in one side of a pond creates ripples that travel to the other side.

 

I made it plural because a mixture of changes created the results we saw. A friendly hire and an arrogant fire gave us the team results.

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This move ended up hurting more because I could see Joe Flacco looking down the field for that open receiver Jones, Brown and T. Smith all covered.  He just wasn't there!!!! 

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Only 2 moves upset me. #1 was Boldin and the 2nd being Ellerbe. I understood both, but felt the organization didn't have to get rid of Boldin and still could have maintained the defense. Financially it made sense and also in the sense he only had 1 year left, but would've liked to keep him. It did open the door for Marlon Brown though.

 

We wanted to resign Ellerbe but it was out of our control. Dolphins overpaid for him and had way more cap space.

 

Boldin is a head scratcher. No one foresaw Pitta or Jacoby being injured but as I said earlier this is the NFL you need depth in case of injuries. And Boldin was our most consistent WR.

 

I doubt we would win the Super Bowl but I think he would of helped us get at least two more wins. The O-Line was bad thanks to Gino and no K.O, and hurt even more in the running game than the passing game. There was a stretch of games when Torrey Smith was the only sure handed target we had. And while Torrey is a great receiver who stepped up big last year he isn't as sure handed as Boldin was. I like Marlon Brown who certainly stepped up but he was an undrafted rookie who needs time to develop.

 

Boldin was tough durable and reliable. So its not even debatable he would have helped us out last year. But its over and last season was a wash time to move on. Its a shame because our defense really came together and if the offense had been at least decent we probably would have made the playoffs

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So its been a year and at least for last season its clear letting Boldin go hurt the team and was a clear mistake. Who could foresee Pitta getting hurt and Jacoby going down, leaving us virtually depleted happening. But nevertheless injuries happen which is why u want depth.

 

I know I kind of got blasted in this thread for saying what a terrible mistake this was, despite being right. I'm not bumping this thread to gloat, I just want to know after a year do we know what the real story behind Boldin's trade was, especially considering the amazing year he had?

 

Was there some locker room tension we don't know about, or some news we didn't hear at the time? There has to be some reason for letting such a great clutch player go.

 

I didn't like the Pollard trade but at least I could sort of justify it for whatever went on between Harbaugh and Pollard, so maybe that was necessary despite him being the enforcer of our secondary.

 

The Boldin trade I still can't wrap my head around so was wondering if anyone had anymore insight on this other than we just messed up and our front office made one of its exceedingly rare slip ups.

 

 

I know he's not coming back, and hopefully Steve Smith works out, not saying we should get him back. I'm realistic about the situation and have moved on like most fans have.

Please don't do this again.

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I still think we can "win" the Boldin trade. I know we all wanted Boldin to retire a Raven because he is the definition of a Raven. Obviously he would have helped a ton last year but w/ that o-line and running game we wouldnt have been legit contenders. We were able to get 3 legit starters on defense in Canty, Smith and Doom for multiple years. Also if we have Boldin do we even bother looking into Marlon Brown? Maybe not. We also wouldnt have Steve Smith this year. Going into this year we should have an improved running game and Canty,Smith,Doom,Brown and Steve Smith >>>> then just Boldin

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