Anquan Boldin Traded to the San Francisco 49ers

[H8R]

I'm right until I'm wrong

nope, you're wrong until results tell you you're right.

[Ravensuperfan1]

nope, you're wrong until results tell you you're right.

or vice versa

[quoth_the_raven_neverscore]

good luck Q, you will be missed.

[H8R]

or vice versa

lol. History tells a story. The Ravens history is pretty solid, Ozzie leading the crew.

[Ravensuperfan1]

lol. History tells a story. The Ravens history is pretty solid, Ozzie leading the crew.

oh I agree, best GM in the league. Still human though, was a mistake to let Anquan go, especially if we don't bring Reed back

[H8R]

oh I agree, best GM in the league. Still human though, was a mistake to let Anquan go, especially if we don't bring Reed back

what does one have to do with the other?

[mgridda]

All I have to say about the Anquan Boldin ultimatum and subsequent trade is:

it was a necessary evil. A very painful one, but all I have to say is in this article:

"Yesterday, Anquan Boldin was traded to the San Francisco 49ers for a sixth-round pick. The move will save Baltimore a precious $6 million in cap space. The Ravens are now $13,211,234 below the 2013 salary cap ($123 million).

That move allowed the Ravens to offer tenders to three key players with money to spare. Arthur Jones (second-round tender), Dennis Pitta (second-round tender) and Ed Dickson (original-round tender).

With second-round tenders costing $2.02 million and original-round tenders costing $1.33 million, the Ravens will have retained three players for $5.37 million—$630,000 less than it would've cost to just keep Boldin." --

Basically, Boldin = Pitta + Arthur Jones + Dickson + David Reed.

Yeah, I'd go with the youth movement.

[Grapple Raven]

I don't know if this has been posted before, but I thought I would put it here FYI:

http://bit.ly/ZAE8YM

This is an interview from today with Boldin while he is abroad talking about what happened with the trade. It sheds a little light on the situation and it makes me kinda sad. I am glad to hear that he is not bitter about it though, because it makes his loss it a little easier to deal for me.

[mgridda]

I love Anquan Boldin, though. I really do. He was a Raven back in 2003 and played like a Raven, just the Cards drafted him before we could. imo, Anquan Boldin is a Raven with another jersey on. There are a few players like this in the NFL, who play like a Raven: but unfortunately play for another team.

I'd honestly like to see Anquan come back if lets say he has a down year in San Francisco in 2013 and they don't want to re-sign him, or if they don't immediately give him an extension in SF. I don't wish him an injury or anything to hamper his year, but let's just say his QB could very well have a "Sophomore slump" and that defenses across the league will gameplan (and personnel departments will try to get guys who can hold the edge and faster interior players) against the read-option in the NFL.

I'm surprised Tim Tebow isn't big. I'm sad Anquan Boldin found out through the news about the trade as he got off the plane in Senegal, and not from a phone call from Ozzie Newsome. John tried to get something done. Both the coaches and Anquan wanted Anquan on the team, clearly. But this decision came from the Wizard himself.

Boldin felt the "2 million dollar paycut was unfair." He also wasn't going to be reconstructed/extended in the contract, but just asked to take the 2 million dollar paycut for 2013 and end his contract right then and there. Maybe we can blame Dick Cass and resign Anquan for 2014

[DMH_in_WA]

It really seems cut and dry to me. There's no way we could absorb Boldin's $7.5million cap hit .. not right now when we also have Suggs and Ngata's bonus money thrown in (Cap hits: Suggs = $13million, Ngata = $11.5million), so many FA's, holes to fill -and- Draft money to keep in mind.

Ellerbe and Kruger ... anyone dumb enough to pay them $7million and $8million / year, respectively, deserves what is going to happen to their teams in 2-3 years.

I will not be the least bit surprised if Reed doesn't come back ... prepared myself for that the minute they won the SB. Only one that is a surprise to me is Pollard and I get the feeling this might have something to do with his health.

[luvrayrice27]

how much will boldin be making in san fran?

[1/28/01]

how much will boldin be making in san fran?

Same as he would have been here. His contract goes with him to SF.

[DMH_in_WA]

I listened to that radio interview with Boldin and something really struck me as kind of odd. Boldin said that the Ravens told his agent that he needed to take a $2million pay cut and he didn't understand why they needed it. Now I'm sure the Ravens made the case to his agent that they were strapped under the salary cap.

Did his agent just not bother to tell him the reason they asked for the pay cut or what? He's traveling, working in Senegal .. I'm sure he probably has no idea on the salary cap numbers for the Ravens ... how does his agent not explain why they are asking for the cut so he can make an informed decision. He sounds like he talked to Harbaugh, he says they will try to work something out and then he doesn't talk to his agent until he steps off the plane in Senegal and his wife tells him people are wishing him well in San Francisco.

Huh?

[GrimCoconut]

I listened to that radio interview with Boldin and something really struck me as kind of odd. Boldin said that the Ravens told his agent that he needed to take a $2million pay cut and he didn't understand why they needed it. Now I'm sure the Ravens made the case to his agent that they were strapped under the salary cap.

Did his agent just not bother to tell him the reason they asked for the pay cut or what? He's traveling, working in Senegal .. I'm sure he probably has no idea on the salary cap numbers for the Ravens ... how does his agent not explain why they are asking for the cut so he can make an informed decision. He sounds like he talked to Harbaugh, he says they will try to work something out and then he doesn't talk to his agent until he steps off the plane in Senegal and his wife tells him people are wishing him well in San Francisco.

Huh?

Well, they probably didn't want to reveal their plans that could be leaked to the media & thus other teams.

[BloodRaven]

The only way I think we can replace what Boldin does is if we bring back McKinnie and use more two TE sets.

[DMH_in_WA]

Well, they probably didn't want to reveal their plans that could be leaked to the media & thus other teams.

But we all knew why they were asking him to take a pay cut. Just going to the numbers online you could see that $7.5million wasn't going to fit under the cap and allow them to do too much more. Sounded to me like he thought they just wanted him to take cut "because".

[GrimCoconut]

But we all knew why they were asking him to take a pay cut. Just going to the numbers online you could see that $7.5million wasn't going to fit under the cap and allow them to do too much more. Sounded to me like he thought they just wanted him to take cut "because".

That's not necessarily true. Hell, with that logic they could cut Leach and save money, too.

[DMH_in_WA]

That's not necessarily true. Hell, with that logic they could cut Leach and save money, too.

Well, that still could happen. But, those two are not the same. Leach is set to make ~$4.3million against cap in 2013. The only players making Q level money in 2013 are Suggs, Ngata, Yanda and Flacco. Of those names, which one do you ask to take a $2million pay cut?

[GrimCoconut]

Well, that still could happen. But, those two are not the same. Leach is set to make ~$4.3million against cap in 2013. The only players making Q level money in 2013 are Suggs, Ngata, Yanda and Flacco. Of those names, which one do you ask to take a $2million pay cut?

Yeah, but between the two I would keep Boldin over Leach, even if Boldin is like a clingy GF and has a hard time separating.

And if that was/is the case, why not just explain that to him? I don't buy your logic. It doesn't make any sense. You say it's because he's highly paid. Absolutely true. 100% agree. But when you calculate the addition of the fact that we wouldn't supposedly tell him why we wanted the cut tells me there's something more. Sorry, I don't care how you spin it but I can't see the team asking him for a paycut just because.

[MTRavensFan]

But we all knew why they were asking him to take a pay cut. Just going to the numbers online you could see that $7.5million wasn't going to fit under the cap and allow them to do too much more. Sounded to me like he thought they just wanted him to take cut "because".

Well, if it's so easy to figure out, and WE all knew why it was happening because all you have to do is look it up online, what makes you think Q was so clueless?

More like everybody's trying to save face.

If what you say is true, I'd expect to hear that Boldin's firing his agent upon his return from Africa.

[DMH_in_WA]

Yeah, but between the two I would keep Boldin over Leach, even if Boldin is like a clingy GF and has a hard time separating.

And if that was/is the case, why not just explain that to him? I don't buy your logic. It doesn't make any sense. You say it's because he's highly paid. Absolutely true. 100% agree. But when you calculate the addition of the fact that we wouldn't supposedly tell him why we wanted the cut tells me there's something more. Sorry, I don't care how you spin it but I can't see the team asking him for a paycut just because.

Yes, but you and I don't get to say if we keep Boldin or Leach. And you are asking me the question I asked. Apparently, Boldin didn't know that they needed to cut money to get him under the cap because HE said, he didn't understand why they were asking him to take a $2million pay cut. Since almost EVERYTHING went through his agent by his accounts (except, I am assuming, for his conversation on the phone with Harbaugh) then why was he confused by them asking to cut his pay? Kind of the whole point of my message ... why was it that he didn't know?

Well, if it's so easy to figure out, and WE all knew why it was happening because all you have to do is look it up online, what makes you think Q was so clueless?

Because at the time he was working with his charity, was in transit to Senegal and didn't have or check the internet? I couldn't tell you. I do know that there's a 3 day period where he didn't post anything on the internet which coincides with the time frame for when his agent and the Ravens were negotiating. He didn't even tweet anything about his charity and what they were doing, which he is good about doing.

So yea .. either he knew and he is lying about knowing or he had no idea why they were asking him to take a cut and the question stands, how does his agent not tell him that little fact?

*shrug* Guess we'll never know.

[PurpleCorsair]

Yeah, but between the two I would keep Boldin over Leach, even if Boldin is like a clingy GF and has a hard time separating.

Yeah but you know who to go to if you want to score.

[NARavenRush]

Dear Jim,

I know its early, but Happy Birthday. I hope you like and will take care of the gift I'm sending you. He is a super player.

Love your brother,

John

[oddballll]

I like this trade. He didn't do much during the year but in the play offs he did great. I think we can do better. Change is good, hard, but good,

[Nge2grads]

I have so enjoyed watching Q perform as a Raven. I feel he is a very special player and person. I am wishing him the best in San Francisco, and will miss him every game. He was outstanding in the Super Bowl. Thanks for all your efforts on behalf of the Ravens!

[Yatagarasu]

Guys, don't pity Boldin. We accomplished his goal of winning a ring and of course getting a pay increase. He knew his chance in Baltimore diminished because he's got a ring. We gave him a chance to stay with the team through a paycut, but he rejected. We did a kind thing to send him to a contender at the salary he's signed up for. He's making more per year than Welker or Amendola.

[Ravensuperfan1]

So its been a year and at least for last season its clear letting Boldin go hurt the team and was a clear mistake. Who could foresee Pitta getting hurt and Jacoby going down, leaving us virtually depleted happening. But nevertheless injuries happen which is why u want depth.

 

I know I kind of got blasted in this thread for saying what a terrible mistake this was, despite being right. I'm not bumping this thread to gloat, I just want to know after a year do we know what the real story behind Boldin's trade was, especially considering the amazing year he had?

 

Was there some locker room tension we don't know about, or some news we didn't hear at the time? There has to be some reason for letting such a great clutch player go.

 

I didn't like the Pollard trade but at least I could sort of justify it for whatever went on between Harbaugh and Pollard, so maybe that was necessary despite him being the enforcer of our secondary.

 

The Boldin trade I still can't wrap my head around so was wondering if anyone had anymore insight on this other than we just messed up and our front office made one of its exceedingly rare slip ups.

 

 

I know he's not coming back, and hopefully Steve Smith works out, not saying we should get him back. I'm realistic about the situation and have moved on like most fans have.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Not that i want to brag....but i was right

 

im still laughing at all the folks that straight up ripped him and said we'll be perfectly fine....that all boldin is worth is a 'depth' guy at best.   

 

good luck to boldin.  miss him then, miss him now.    the man was a machine for us.   

[jaege]

I thought it was questionable back then and I still do. We picked up a bunch of duds with money that could have been used to keep Boldin. Not even the much vaunted Dumervil really had much of an impact on the team.

 

 

Although I have no illusions that the team would have done much better had he stayed. We were pretty bad last year. Too much talent too quickly lost and not all of it due to FO decisions. The fate of being successful.

[RobFuseRaven]

I still think the main problem was the offensive line whether we had Boldin or not.