Anquan Boldin Traded to the San Francisco 49ers

[SecretAgentMan]

Look at last offseason. We let a great LB in JJ go, and an elite Olinemen in Grubbs leave via FA. We then cut Lee Evans, Cundiff, and so on and so forth......

Who did we bring in?

To replace JJ, we drafted Upshaw. Who looks like he's going to be one of the better OLBS in the NFL...... Value: Potentially greater for cheaper

Grubbs, who we thought it would take forever to replace, we got KO. KO is already BETTER than Grubbs at LG. KO has the chance to be the best LG in the NFL.

We then brought in Jacoby to replace Lee Evans.... Jacoby made the greatest play in Ravens history (offensively anyway, the greatest play ever is the Lewis pick six @ Ten) with the F bomb. Oh, and he's an all pro KR. Value: Greater value

Cundiff: Tucker: Enough said

Last offseason, the sky was also falling, yet our "lousy" acquisitions were big parts of our SB....

Ozzie knows what he's doing......

[The Raven]

Ozzie and Harbs are the biggest advocates in the league of the "next man up" philosophy. We'll need to see Doss, Jones, and lil Q to step up. I'm going to try and have faith in Ozzie, but I'm skeptical of that group.

But you guys know as well as I do, every time Ozzie scares the crap out of us like this, he almost always makes up for it. We'll see how it goes, but for now I'll abide by our favorite mantra: In Ozzie We Trust.

[gabefergy]

Ozzie and Harbs are the biggest advocates in the league of the "next man up" philosophy. We'll need to see Doss, Jones, and lil Q to step up. I'm going to try and have faith in Ozzie, but I'm skeptical of that group.

But you guys know as well as I do, every time Ozzie scares the crap out of us like this, he almost always makes up for it. We'll see how it goes, but for now I'll abide by our favorite mantra: In Ozzie We Trust.

Dont forget about Streeter and Thompson too. We have a lot of young WRs that have potential, but havent the consistent opportunity. Ozzie and co see these guys at practice where we cant. We wouldnt just cut Boldin if there was no one to play behind him.

[dhstandard]

Ozzie and Harbs are the biggest advocates in the league of the "next man up" philosophy. We'll need to see Doss, Jones, and lil Q to step up. I'm going to try and have faith in Ozzie, but I'm skeptical of that group.

But you guys know as well as I do, every time Ozzie scares the crap out of us like this, he almost always makes up for it. We'll see how it goes, but for now I'll abide by our favorite mantra: In Ozzie We Trust.

Our FO always waits until the last second to pull the trigger. I doubt they cut him. Doss Jones and Quan are nowhere near Boldin. Probably the biggest issue is he doesn't get separation which forces those lob back shoulder throws, but he catches them 9 times out of 10 so it shouldn't be any problem.

[dhstandard]

Dont forget about Streeter and Thompson too. We have a lot of young WRs that have potential, but havent the consistent opportunity. Ozzie and co see these guys at practice where we cant. We wouldnt just cut Boldin if there was no one to play behind him.

There are people behind them but they aren't as good. I want to give Streeter a shot, Thompson too, but there are no vet receivers on this team to guide them. Also we can always give them a shot but what if they don't work out? You'd be begging for Boldin back.

[gabefergy]

There are people behind them but they aren't as good. I want to give Streeter a shot, Thompson too, but there are no vet receivers on this team to guide them. Also we can always give them a shot but what if they don't work out? You'd be begging for Boldin back.

Well it's a risk you have to take. Let's not make Boldin out to be something he isnt. In three years he has never had a 1,000 yard season. He has had 14 TDs in 3 seasons. He has been overpayed for 3 seasons, and if he didnt go into beast mode during the playoffs this wouldnt even be a discussion.

There are tangible reasons why the FO doesnt want to keep him at hsi current price. I'm not exaggerating when I said he was the slowest WR in the NFL. You watch the film and and he does not get separation from any CB worth his salt. He is physical and has incredibly strong hands which allows him to out-position defenders and make tough catches.

The young guys have to be given a shot, to know what we have in them. Maybe we draft another WR too because after this season Boldin will be gone either way.

[The Raven]

There are people behind them but they aren't as good. I want to give Streeter a shot, Thompson too, but there are no vet receivers on this team to guide them. Also we can always give them a shot but what if they don't work out? You'd be begging for Boldin back.

They'll never be as good as Boldin if they don't get a chance.

[codizzle]

Yup

[Ravensuperfan1]

We can't lose Ellerbe long term and hope to keep him just so we can keep boldin on his last legs.

Boldin's got a good 3 years left. He's only 32.

I like Ellerbe but we shouldn't break the bank on him. Lets be realistic. We should try and keep Ellerbe, but if he's looking for 30M thats a little too rich and its not impossible for us to fill in at MLB. We always do well at LB we just find guys and develop them right and left. So as long as we get a NT we should be solid. Jameel's coming back.

Ellerbe should stay. No one wants to go to the Browns if they care about winning games. Also we've got some up and coming LBs. Josh Bynes and some players in the draft. So as much as I'd like to keep Ellerbe losing him isn't the end of the world if he wants to break the bank with his contract.

[Cville-Raven]

Well it's a risk you have to take. Let's not make Boldin out to be something he isnt. In three years he has never had a 1,000 yard season. He has had 14 TDs in 3 seasons. He has been overpayed for 3 seasons, and if he didnt go into beast mode during the playoffs this wouldnt even be a discussion.

There are tangible reasons why the FO doesnt want to keep him at hsi current price. I'm not exaggerating when I said he was the slowest WR in the NFL. You watch the film and and he does not get separation from any CB worth his salt. He is physical and has incredibly strong hands which allows him to out-position defenders and make tough catches.

The young guys have to be given a shot, to know what we have in them. Maybe we draft another WR too because after this season Boldin will be gone either way.

That stat alone kind of depresses me lol. To think our second year receiver who was raw as anything coming out has more receiving tds in two seasons is kind of sad. I was hoping he would be a redzone monster and he was never that with Cam; with Caldwell he was a beast in the redzone. I also agree that a #2 option/boldin replacement should be found in this year's draft or next year's draft.

[redravenfan]

Boldin's got a good 3 years left. He's only 32.

I like Ellerbe but we shouldn't break the bank on him. Lets be realistic. We should try and keep Ellerbe, but if he's looking for 30M thats a little too rich and its not impossible for us to fill in at MLB. We always do well at LB we just find guys and develop them right and left. So as long as we get a NT we should be solid. Jameel's coming back.

Ellerbe should stay. No one wants to go to the Browns if they care about winning games. Also we've got some up and coming LBs. Josh Bynes and some players in the draft. So as much as I'd like to keep Ellerbe losing him isn't the end of the world if he wants to break the bank with his contract.

i agree with you i keep hearing doss has the best hands on the team if thats the case as stated before this wr corps is in serious trouble. In ozzie we trust for defense the man does not do well in the wr department. streeter was a stand out in college why was he stashed on ir was it route running or was he really injured. thompson hasn't played enough to make a decision. and i know this isn't a popular opinion but jacoby jones is not a number 1 or 2 reciever. he drops allot of balls. the fo doesn't care what any of us think but i pray they work things out with q until at least we find some good wr's.

[Cville-Raven]

i agree with you i keep hearing doss has the best hands on the team if thats the case as stated before this wr corps is in serious trouble. In ozzie we trust for defense the man does not do well in the wr department. streeter was a stand out in college why was he stashed on ir was it route running or was he really injured. thompson hasn't played enough to make a decision. and i know this isn't a popular opinion but jacoby jones is not a number 1 or 2 reciever. he drops allot of balls. the fo doesn't care what any of us think but i pray they work things out with q until at least we find some good wr's.

Jacoby wouldnt be a number 1 anyway, probably not even a number 2 if we lose Q.

[melvinmelon123]

i agree with you i keep hearing doss has the best hands on the team if thats the case as stated before this wr corps is in serious trouble. In ozzie we trust for defense the man does not do well in the wr department. streeter was a stand out in college why was he stashed on ir was it route running or was he really injured. thompson hasn't played enough to make a decision. and i know this isn't a popular opinion but jacoby jones is not a number 1 or 2 reciever. he drops allot of balls. the fo doesn't care what any of us think but i pray they work things out with q until at least we find some good wr's.

Streeter was placed on IR because he was a project. There was no way he was ready to play in the NFL. Pretty everyone agrees that Jacoby is a 3, no one is suggesting he be our other starting WR.

[redravenfan]

Jacoby wouldnt be a number 1 anyway, probably not even a number 2 if we lose Q.

your right i forgot torrey. now if we can find another torrey in the draft ......we don't seem to have good luck in that area

[redravenfan]

Streeter was placed on IR because he was a project. There was no way he was ready to play in the NFL. Pretty everyone agrees that Jacoby is a 3, no one is suggesting he be our other starting WR.

with q gone who would be though seriously jacoby is pretty much it .i figured as much with streeter i had a feeling he was not injured at all like most of the guys on ir.

[Cville-Raven]

your right i forgot torrey. now is we can find another torrey in the draft ......we don't seem to have good luck in that area

well as of lately we have been developing receivers much better than before mainly becuase we have stable QB play. This is a deep receiver class, so I would take a guy in the second round if the value is there. Markus wheaton, Hopkins, Woods, all are guys that would be good day one contributors.

[GrimCoconut]

With the amount of anger going on in this thread, you would think we just signed Kyle Boller and let Flacco walk in FA. Lol.

[admartian]

The greatest WR of all time ran a 4.71 40 yard dash, if you have great hands and ball skills I'll take that over speed every day of the week. And Boldin still makes big 30-40 yard catches and puts up 100yds a game. He will most definitely be hard to replace.

But people forget that Jerry Rice's 20 yard dash (final 20 of the 40) is one of the fastest in history. Or at least, commonly perceived and well known to be on of the fastest.

So once he got separation, no one was catching him.

I love Q. But I find it hard for us to keep him, Ellerbe, and Reed together. We'll lose at least 1. Maybe even 2, sadly.

[redravenfan]

well as of lately we have been developing receivers much better than before mainly becuase we have stable QB play. This is a deep receiver class, so I would take a guy in the second round if the value is there. Markus wheaton, Hopkins, Woods, all are guys that would be good day one contributors.

i would love austin , yes i know i'm dreaming but of the ones you mentioned I like wheaton and Hopkins woods i don't know much about .

[redravenfan]

With the amount of anger going on in this thread, you would think we just signed Kyle Boller and let Flacco walk in FA. Lol.

pretty much,,,,, looks like q is popular ravens fans are passionate. if he has to be cut my point is where's the guy to replace him thats my concern . we already lost my favorite player to retirement

[OschoolRaven]

Q is the toughest receiver in the NFL! We need to keep him in a Ravens uniform.

[baltravens]

Boldin is the offensive free agent that we need to retain the most. (McKinnie is also very important in my opinion.)

On defense we need to re-sign Reed and Ellerbe the most.

[Ravensuperfan1]

i agree with you i keep hearing doss has the best hands on the team if thats the case as stated before this wr corps is in serious trouble. In ozzie we trust for defense the man does not do well in the wr department. streeter was a stand out in college why was he stashed on ir was it route running or was he really injured. thompson hasn't played enough to make a decision. and i know this isn't a popular opinion but jacoby jones is not a number 1 or 2 reciever. he drops allot of balls. the fo doesn't care what any of us think but i pray they work things out with q until at least we find some good wr's.

I agree with you. I've been saying all week as much as I love Jacoby he is a #3 receiver and a special teams stud

[Ravensfan23]

I love how people are just writing Doss and the rest of the young WRs off like they've been here 5yrs with little results. The oldest guy is David Reed and he's only entering his 4th year. It's been said that WR is one of the toughest positions for guys to develop at. As someone else said, the Ravens watch these young guys practice and even Jacoby and Boldin rave about those guys. Just because the fans don't see doesn't mean they aren't good. We can watch all the "tape" we want, our opinions on decision making a issues mean nothing. Oh I saw Doss dropp to many passes in the Colts game he sucks. Well the guy that has to use him and implement him intto the offense sees him every day catches passes and running routes.

Do we forget that Mason and Heap were cut and every WR/TE on the roster not named Boldin had a combine 12 catches? 11 of those catches came from Dickson. The Ravens aren't having this discussion because they HAVE to, no it's because Boldin is too expensive for what he provides and where the offense is headed. We all love Boldin and many can't seem to see the writing on the wall that his career is on it's last leg. Boldin gave it all he has and played like a man possessed to help this team win the Super Bowl. That was huge and i'm sure the FO appreciate it. However you have to look towards the future not just defending in 2013.

Also I think people are really underestimating the impact Cladwell truely had on this offense, both when talking about Boldin and McKinnie. Caldwell did a great job of scheming this offense to create matchup problems. I honestly don't even think we've seen his best yet. A lot of the passes Boldin caught were intended for him to come wide open but he doesn't create separation well, so they were contested. Boldin can definitely get it done still but at what cost? This offense is now run in a way that suits all thw WRs better.

I hope the guy will be back, but no way do I feel the offense is doomed without him.

[Purple Nurple]

Boldin is the offensive free agent that we need to retain the most. (McKinnie is also very important in my opinion.)

On defense we need to re-sign Reed and Ellerbe the most.

I don't think he's a FA. We just want him to take a pay cut.

[dhstandard]

Well it's a risk you have to take. Let's not make Boldin out to be something he isnt. In three years he has never had a 1,000 yard season. He has had 14 TDs in 3 seasons. He has been overpayed for 3 seasons, and if he didnt go into beast mode during the playoffs this wouldnt even be a discussion.

There are tangible reasons why the FO doesnt want to keep him at hsi current price. I'm not exaggerating when I said he was the slowest WR in the NFL. You watch the film and and he does not get separation from any CB worth his salt. He is physical and has incredibly strong hands which allows him to out-position defenders and make tough catches.

The young guys have to be given a shot, to know what we have in them. Maybe we draft another WR too because after this season Boldin will be gone either way.

They have opportunities in pre-season and practice and nothing too great has come of it. Doss looked horrible in his playing time he received. Streeter and Thompson are the ones I'd like to see but we need to wait for the preseason.

[NaveSenrag]

I don't think he's a FA. We just want him to take a pay cut.

If he doesn't take a pay cut he'll probably end up a free agent.

[gabefergy]

They have opportunities in pre-season and practice and nothing too great has come of it. Doss looked horrible in his playing time he received. Streeter and Thompson are the ones I'd like to see but we need to wait for the preseason.

They looked pretty good in the preseason, but they didnt get actual PT because Cam never used more than 3 WRs, and the only WR who got any meaningful snaps was Doss. No, he did not look horrible. He actually got open more frequently than boldin, but he was really underused because he was 4th on the depth chart.

[baltravens]

I don't think he's a FA. We just want him to take a pay cut.

Oops, I am not perfect being a human being, but we need to retain Boldin the most on our offense. He seemingly is Flacco's favorite target. So keep him on the team so Flacco can continue to flourish under Caldwell's tutelage.

[Cville-Raven]

They have opportunities in pre-season and practice and nothing too great has come of it. Doss looked horrible in his playing time he received. Streeter and Thompson are the ones I'd like to see but we need to wait for the preseason.

Did you watch Doss' rookie pre season?