Terrence Cody's offseason

[Bltravens]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1365266575' post='1426619']
Landry's isolation exercises are useless for football, he carries too much excess bulk without the functional strength.

Edit: Cody can still take a lessons on work ethic and being a gym rat.
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Yep. Its why Laron has never had much for lateral mobility or acceleration etc.

[ravinHawaii]

I may be in the minority here, but I believe Terrence Cody will break out this year. I think he should be able to play at 360 lbs as opposed to Harbaugh's 320-330 range. Cody was one of the most dominant NT in 2009 that ive every seen. This is his contract year so I think he'll show up greater than ever.

Im actually a huge Harbaugh fan. I thought he was the 3rd most important cog (behind Flacco and Lewis) last yr. But by forcing Cody to only play if he's at a certain weight may be counterproductive. Who cares if Cody could only play 2 downs because of conditioning problems, he usually only plays on 1st nd 2nd because of the pass rushers we have. If he could be as dominant as he was in college, we may only need him for 2 downs.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_KOr-1eNm8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_KOr-1eNm8[/url]

[url="http://cdn1.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/94801/terrence-cody-weigh-in.jpg"][img]http://cdn1.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/94801/terrence-cody-weigh-in.jpg[/img][/url]

Lastly, I get all the jokes about the Cody weigh-in pic. Im not 300 lbs (Im actually not even 200 lol) but I know that wen a person loses a lot of weight (like Harbs made him do) they hav lot of extra skin. I made my friend diet with me nd he lost 20lbs in a month nd lookd like this despite being more in shape. Pregnant women experience this after giving birth nd trying to lose the weight too quickly, which is what I think happened.

[Gordo52]

I bet Ozzie is more disappointed in Cody then anybody. It's really a shame, I wish him the best in 2 years when he's a NYJ.

I just really want Jesse Williams man.

[Bump N Run]

dude is softer than play dough.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='ravinHawaii' timestamp='1365329991' post='1427084']
I may be in the minority here, but I believe Terrence Cody will break out this year. I think he should be able to play at 360 lbs as opposed to Harbaugh's 320-330 range. Cody was one of the most dominant NT in 2009 that ive every seen. This is his contract year so I think he'll show up greater than ever.

Im actually a huge Harbaugh fan. I thought he was the 3rd most important cog (behind Flacco and Lewis) last yr. But by forcing Cody to only play if he's at a certain weight may be counterproductive. Who cares if Cody could only play 2 downs because of conditioning problems, he usually only plays on 1st nd 2nd because of the pass rushers we have. If he could be as dominant as he was in college, we may only need him for 2 downs.

[url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_KOr-1eNm8"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_KOr-1eNm8[/url]

[url="http://cdn1.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/94801/terrence-cody-weigh-in.jpg"][img]http://cdn1.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/94801/terrence-cody-weigh-in.jpg[/img][/url]

Lastly, I get all the jokes about the Cody weigh-in pic. Im not 300 lbs (Im actually not even 200 lol) but I know that wen a person loses a lot of weight (like Harbs made him do) they hav lot of extra skin. I made my friend diet with me nd he lost 20lbs in a month nd lookd like this despite being more in shape. Pregnant women experience this after giving birth nd trying to lose the weight too quickly, which is what I think happened.
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Cody was a dominant NT? I must have missed that. He had one season where he played reasonably well in limited action, but you can't excuse his terrible play on losing weight. It's clear he doesn't have the discipline to maintain a reasonable body fat% . That picture you posted was from the combine so he has been incredibly sloppy from the get go. I'm somewhat amazed the Ravens wasted such a high pick on him looking back.

[Legacy_0f_52]

[quote name='mgridda' timestamp='1362839452' post='1382462']
i feel like Ozzie was calling out Terrence Cody, mostly, during the post-season press conference. Him saying that we need to upgrade the interior of the defense was also a shot at Ngata, who had a weak year (but could blame playing injured, at about 60%) and definitely Arthur Jones Jr. and Pernell McPhee. Mostly, the biggest disappointment has been Cody. He needs to have a really stellar off-season, to be honest. i don't understand why he can't turn all that fat into muscle. if you look at this video of his workout, let's say it's not the same as Ray Lewis' work-outs.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcmW_iJAHL8[/media]

Cody needs to have a protein rich diet. He needs to turn that muscle into fat. He needs two-a-day workouts over the next three months into july. He could be a monster, or have the goal of being the strongest man in the NFL. i wish the Ravens would hire me to just motivate Terrence Cody. i'd take the job for minimum wage, lol. That guy is seriously the key to our defensive success this year, unless whoever we sign or draft is just a monster at NT. Cody should be eating around 500g of protein a day and doing two-a-days. Both swimming in the pool for cardiovascular endurance and stamina, and also working out his trunk and core. He seems like he needs someone on top of what he does all the time.

Cody does NOT seem like a clean eater. He seems to eat very dirty (junk food, sweets, bad carbs) to give him energy. The problem is Ngata is probably taking it very easy this off-season and just resting to come back 100% healthy.

We need to send Cody to some powerlifting camp all off-season since he didn't get used much last season, he shouldn't be resting as much as the other guys.
[/quote]For one fat doesn't turn into muscle. Go hit the gym up yourself before you talk. UNREAL LOL "turn fat into muscle" lol more muscle mass burns fat from the increase in your metabolism but fat doesn't convert into muscle. You are an idiot who has never worked out a day in his life.

[Legacy_0f_52]

Power lifting camp is NOT what Cody needs. Cody needs more self discipline that's all. He needs a lower weight higher rep workout routine, not some 1 rep power lift routine.

[black blood purple passion]

i think he needs to do some squats, forget the chest. I'm 230 pounds and my legs are bigger.

[black blood purple passion]

[quote name='Legacy_0f_52' timestamp='1365871814' post='1432781']
For one fat doesn't turn into muscle. Go hit the gym up yourself before you talk. UNREAL LOL "turn fat into muscle" lol more muscle mass burns fat from the increase in your metabolism but fat doesn't convert into muscle. You are an idiot who has never worked out a day in his life.
[/quote]

you're obviously incapable of colloquial speech. He didn't literally mean convert the fat into muscle he just meant that Cody needs to add muscle and lose fat. Personally attacking someone over something so irrelevant is very big of you < don't take that literally because that was sarcasm.

[Ravenseconbeast]

He is a NT.

He should've kept his weight to what it orignally was. Doesnt make much sense trying to keep him lean & fast..

[CapoRocky]

I really like Cody and would love for us to pick up a rookie in the draft for depth at NT.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='Legacy_0f_52' timestamp='1365871951' post='1432786']
Power lifting camp is NOT what Cody needs. Cody needs more self discipline that's all. He needs a lower weight higher rep workout routine, not some 1 rep power lift routine.
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Cody's a 2 down NT. He doesn't need increased stamina or looking better with his shirt off. He needs to be a powerful mass. Cody needs to do cleans, dead lifts, olympic lifts and squats at like 5 or 6 rep sets.

No one in their right mind does 1 rep sets unless you're doing a max day.

[mgridda]

[quote name='Legacy_0f_52' timestamp='1365871814' post='1432781']
For one fat doesn't turn into muscle. Go hit the gym up yourself before you talk. UNREAL LOL "turn fat into muscle" lol more muscle mass burns fat from the increase in your metabolism but fat doesn't convert into muscle. You are an idiot who has never worked out a day in his life.
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Oh boy. Yes, I do hit the gym up myself. Does fat literally convert into muscle? No. Fat is energy, which can be burned in the building of muscle. All I was saying is he needs to focus on building muscle and the fat loss will come as well.

[quote]Power lifting camp is NOT what Cody needs. Cody needs more self discipline that's all. He needs a lower weight higher rep workout routine, not some 1 rep power lift routine.[/quote]

lol, surely if you're such an expert you'd surely know that the "lower weight higher rep workout routine" is a myth, right?

http://justinrivelli.com/2012/03/18/the-muscle-tone-myth-high-reps-dont-tone/

There's plenty of more links I can post but they'd detract from that good one^, hundreds more like this:

http://www.exrx.net/WeightTraining/Myths.html

and well here lets out the middle man:

https://www.google.com/#safe=off&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=lower+weight+more+reps+myth&oq=lower+weight+more+reps+myth&gs_l=hp.3...36.4096.1.4304.17.15.0.2.2.0.252.1565.10j4j1.15.0...0.0...1c.1.9.hp.vIaTx8JaIok&psj=1&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.45175338,d.dmg&fp=c0a4ba872f7ac38a&biw=1024&bih=661

[justifythegame]

Im also one of those people think that Cody needs to get back to 370lbs to play football. Ideally, Cody could lose fat, put on muscle and become a good player in the NFL. But after 3 years, it seems obvious to me that he just can't do it. Im not trying to trash talk cody, its just not in him. He always been a fat guy with no strength that basically used his weight and size to overpower college players. Basically what happened in the NFL is that he lost the weight - which was part of his leverage imo, at that point he has nothing to help his game (he already had to strength begin with). If the Ravens want to be practical, he needs to put his weight back on and he get on the field in certain situations (not a full time starter). [b]Ideally[/b] he needs to replace his fat with muscle/ get stronger - which imo just isn't going to happen, it hasnt happened in 3 years, so its not going to happen now. Maybe when he hits FA, he takes a year off, works really hard to come back a different player with strength, he might be a good fit for some team. Thats just my opinion.

[display name]

[quote name='mgridda' timestamp='1362839452' post='1382462']
i feel like Ozzie was calling out Terrence Cody, mostly, during the post-season press conference. Him saying that we need to upgrade the interior of the defense was also a shot at Ngata, who had a weak year (but could blame playing injured, at about 60%) and definitely Arthur Jones Jr. and Pernell McPhee. Mostly, the biggest disappointment has been Cody. He needs to have a really stellar off-season, to be honest. i don't understand why he can't turn all that fat into muscle. if you look at this video of his workout, let's say it's not the same as Ray Lewis' work-outs.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcmW_iJAHL8[/media]

Cody needs to have a protein rich diet. He needs to turn that muscle into fat. He needs two-a-day workouts over the next three months into july. He could be a monster, or have the goal of being the strongest man in the NFL. i wish the Ravens would hire me to just motivate Terrence Cody. i'd take the job for minimum wage, lol. That guy is seriously the key to our defensive success this year, unless whoever we sign or draft is just a monster at NT. Cody should be eating around 500g of protein a day and doing two-a-days. Both swimming in the pool for cardiovascular endurance and stamina, and also working out his trunk and core. He seems like he needs someone on top of what he does all the time.

Cody does NOT seem like a clean eater. He seems to eat very dirty (junk food, sweets, bad carbs) to give him energy. The problem is Ngata is probably taking it very easy this off-season and just resting to come back 100% healthy.

We need to send Cody to some powerlifting camp all off-season since he didn't get used much last season, he shouldn't be resting as much as the other guys.
[/quote]
I do agree that with a real workout you shouldn't be able to leave that sweatshirt on.
I haven't given up though.

[Tiz]

[quote name='display name' timestamp='1365890455' post='1432978']

I do agree that with a real workout you shouldn't be able to leave that sweatshirt on.
I haven't given up though.
[/quote]

That's just dumb
A real workout isn't judged by your decision to stay covered up.
I've worked out with plenty of ifbb and npc competitors and plenty of times we all stayed under wraps

[mgridda]

I don't care if he had a snowsuit on.

He seemed sluggish, is all. The intensity of his work out was at the level of lounging around at a resort feeling a nice cool breeze.

[Tiz]

[quote name='mgridda' timestamp='1365962667' post='1433497']
I don't care if he had a snowsuit on.

He seemed sluggish, is all. The intensity of his work out was at the level of lounging around at a resort feeling a nice cool breeze.
[/quote]
Yup those 4 minutes is all we need to know about his entire offseason and the plan the team has for him at the facility

[mgridda]

[quote name='Tiz' timestamp='1365983812' post='1433751']
Yup those 4 minutes is all we need to know about his entire offseason and the plan the team has for him at the facility
[/quote]

I'm not one to judge a his past workouts on just that video. Instead, I am one to judge his strength. He got pushed around last year, and it showed during games. I definitely am not saying it's indicative of what will happen this offseason

In fact I hope it's completely different this offseason and that the plan the team has for him is strength, strength and more strength. Ngata is going to need a breather at NT, and when he does

cody should impress us.

[lowrider]

[quote name='Tiz' timestamp='1365983812' post='1433751']
Yup those 4 minutes is all we need to know about his entire offseason and the plan the team has for him at the facility
[/quote]
That is true. But seriously, he needed help to get strapped into the treadmill machine and he did planks. When I saw Ray Rice tour the facility on a video, he at least looked like he belonged in the gym. Cody didn't even know how to strap into a machine. How often do you think he actually does that exercise if he doesn't know how to get into that treadmill? More than anything else, he picked the wrong exercises to show off. That video is a little pathetic to be honest. Especially, when this is their job to train their bodies and use these facilities on a DAILY basis. I'm not saying I am the prime example of a physical athlete, but Cody showed me nothing in that 4 minute sample for someone who is supposed to be an elite athlete.

I mean look at Matt Forte's offseason workout video or Webb's recent video or LeRon McClain's workout video. Those guys push their bodies to the limit while Cody's video is an amateur attempt. Clearly needs guidance in the workout room, and the proof is in his results on the field. In fact when I look at his body, it looks like it has built muscle since he got drafted, but this is a problem that can be corrected. Hard work and development of good health habits could change this around. Prove me wrong Cody.

[ClintLB8]

[quote name='Ravensuperfan1' timestamp='1362874494' post='1383248']


we have given him time, that is what 2010 and 2011 were for. We didn't want to see him regress. If he was injured that would be one thing, but he wasn't. We cutt Kelly Gregg for Cody. Next year is a make or break year for him
[/quote]

Um, he had an elbow injury and apparently that hip injury from his rookie year was never 100% like he said which is why he just had offseason surgery. He was definitely banged up last year and no where close to 100%.

[Tiz]

[quote name='lowrider' timestamp='1366053322' post='1434219']

That is true. But seriously, he needed help to get strapped into the treadmill machine and he did planks. When I saw Ray Rice tour the facility on a video, he at least looked like he belonged in the gym. Cody didn't even know how to strap into a machine. How often do you think he actually does that exercise if he doesn't know how to get into that treadmill? More than anything else, he picked the wrong exercises to show off. That video is a little pathetic to be honest. Especially, when this is their job to train their bodies and use these facilities on a DAILY basis. I'm not saying I am the prime example of a physical athlete, but Cody showed me nothing in that 4 minute sample for someone who is supposed to be an elite athlete.

I mean look at Matt Forte's offseason workout video or Webb's recent video or LeRon McClain's workout video. Those guys push their bodies to the limit while Cody's video is an amateur attempt. Clearly needs guidance in the workout room, and the proof is in his results on the field. In fact when I look at his body, it looks like it has built muscle since he got drafted, but this is a problem that can be corrected. Hard work and development of good health habits could change this around. Prove me wrong Cody.
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So he needed help to strap in the machine omg guess if you need help to put a tie on its a sign you're outta shape huh?
Yes he did planks. I'm sure he needs to do them and the team wants him to do them to strengthen his core.
Unless you think a big guy wouldn't benefit from core excercised.

As for other guys workout videos they are simply that. If a guy releases a video showing his best effort it doesn't mean every workout is like that. If a guy is a stud in work outs it doesn't mean he will be a stud playing either.

So t recap this thread people comment on how he looks to suggest looking the part means he'd play better.
People comment on a video to show his routine as if its the epitome of every workout he would have,
I'm just gonna wait for one of you to post the training schedule the team has made for hima he show at what point in that routine this video was done in since appare fly everyone knows his entire offseason routine and has done the check up in him to recommend a routine based in where he is at physically.

Oh wait didnt this guy just have hip surgery too? So please tell me how heavy you'd have had him squaring leading up to the surgery too

[Fred Sanford]

I'm sorry to say I think even if the guy's conditioning improved 400%, he might still remain a below average lineman. If maxing out strength and quickness were enough by themselves, Vernon Gholston would have 120 sacks by now. I think the guy just leaned on people at Alabama with his weight. 290 lb. technician centers like Chris Myers study all day how to get leverage on bigger guys and move them around. Cody's a fun loving guy, you can tell, but seems to lack seriousness, dedication, leverage, technique, and flat out football skill. A fun loving, out of condition nose tackle who plays too high, doesn't make plays, doesn't demand double teams, loses badly to singled up undersized blockers, and doesn't get tackles for losses is ultimately as effective a nose tackle as the forum members here. If your only job is to be a big guy who clogs up the trenches, and 290 lb. guys are pushing you back 7 yards, it's like basically having 10 men on the field. I hope the guy surprises me this year, but I've seen nothing to indicate he will.

[lowrider]

[quote name='Tiz' timestamp='1366074337' post='1434543']
So he needed help to strap in the machine omg guess if you need help to put a tie on its a sign you're outta shape huh?
Yes he did planks. I'm sure he needs to do them and the team wants him to do them to strengthen his core.
Unless you think a big guy wouldn't benefit from core excercised.

As for other guys workout videos they are simply that. If a guy releases a video showing his best effort it doesn't mean every workout is like that. If a guy is a stud in work outs it doesn't mean he will be a stud playing either.

So t recap this thread people comment on how he looks to suggest looking the part means he'd play better.
People comment on a video to show his routine as if its the epitome of every workout he would have,
I'm just gonna wait for one of you to post the training schedule the team has made for hima he show at what point in that routine this video was done in since appare fly everyone knows his entire offseason routine and has done the check up in him to recommend a routine based in where he is at physically.

Oh wait didnt this guy just have hip surgery too? So please tell me how heavy you'd have had him squaring leading up to the surgery too
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If I flip burgers all day, would I not know how to use a grill? If an NFL player is paid to use machines to train his body, would he not be able to use the machine because of a routine? And say he doesn't use it all the time, why would he videotape something that is not a routine for him? Also, you may note he ran at an average pace. 7mph for ten minutes or something similar to that? Dude runs a mile and a half and calls it a workout. Size is not an excuse for that.

You further prove my point. Forte and company do not show those workouts as abnormalities, but as routine workouts. That is why they can do the exercises so well. Example, look at Webb's freakish coordination video. That takes practice and routine to become that effective. Cody struggles with the routine of equipping of a machine and does planks as a challenging exercise.

Finally, I acknowledge your point. I do not know his exact routine and how hard he works, so I could be wrong. But I doubt it for these reasons:

1. There is a heavy emphasis of improving the DL. Harbaugh and Ozzie made that very clear
2. Cody's horrible play this year.
3. Internal comments of Cody's poor health choices.

This video just a sample. But fully reflected his play this year.

[billick]

Cody is a draft mistake, and he will be cut when the cap says he should be.

[H8R]

[quote name='display name' timestamp='1365890455' post='1432978']

I do agree that with a real workout you shouldn't be able to leave that sweatshirt on.
I haven't given up though.
[/quote]

That's BS...

[The Raven Effect]

Seriously rooting for Cody to make an impact this year.

[Blackbirds Rule]

[quote name='lowrider' timestamp='1366133296' post='1435068']
If I flip burgers all day, would I not know how to use a grill? If an NFL player is paid to use machines to train his body, would he not be able to use the machine because of a routine? And say he doesn't use it all the time, why would he videotape something that is not a routine for him? Also, you may note he ran at an average pace. 7mph for ten minutes or something similar to that? Dude runs a mile and a half and calls it a workout. Size is not an excuse for that.

You further prove my point. Forte and company do not show those workouts as abnormalities, but as routine workouts. That is why they can do the exercises so well. Example, look at Webb's freakish coordination video. That takes practice and routine to become that effective. Cody struggles with the routine of equipping of a machine and does planks as a challenging exercise.

Finally, I acknowledge your point. I do not know his exact routine and how hard he works, so I could be wrong. But I doubt it for these reasons:

1. There is a heavy emphasis of improving the DL. Harbaugh and Ozzie made that very clear
2. Cody's horrible play this year.
3. Internal comments of Cody's poor health choices.

This video just a sample. But fully reflected his play this year.
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Why are you comparing his workout to a rb's? That makes no sense. What 325+ pound man runs more than a mile. He just came off of surgery for his hip. Planking and light running is all he needs as he rehabs it. He has May and June to get his strength, endurance, and stamina up. We'll draft another Defensive lineman or two to compete in camp. If he's not what we thought he could be when we drafted him in the preseason. Then he'll be cut, we'll move on and keep pushing. Laron Landry has some of the best workout videos on youtube and he's a FA. The way you look in your workouts aren't always an insight into how you'll play on the field.

[Yatagarasu]

Maybe we should've kept that 380 lb Cody because he might only see the field less than 25%, but he sure couldn't be moved.

Cody knows the his name is on the wall and he has to prove his worth. He had a promising showing in the first two years he was here, but last year just fell apart.

[BloodRaven]

There are UDFA's that will become better nose tackles than Cody. He's a bust and it's time to move on.