Terrence Cody's offseason

[Ravensuperfan1]

I'm sorry but I just need a second Tony Siragusa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C__R2dGa6qs


if Cody can turn into this than he can stay

[Yatagarasu]

What the heck?

Cardio? Calisthenics?

No wonder Cody got eaten up this past year. He's working to lose weight, not get stronger. The trainer should make him Power Lift and build muscle instead of cutting weight.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ezaAMcCy3u4

This Evan Mathis 8 week workout should've been Cody's guideline last year.

I rather take a strong 300 lb Cody than a flabby 350 lb Cody.

Also for Ngata, he has to take up yoga because his body been breaking down lately. Flexibility is key in preventing serious injuries and reducing tears.

[CalvinSmoke]

Cody obviously didn't have a great season but it wasn't because of a lack of effort. He worked hard last off season and lost a lot of weight. Give him time, he doesn't quit on the field and he hasn't quit on the team.

[Ravensuperfan1]

[quote name='CalvinSmoke' timestamp='1362874044' post='1383238']
Cody obviously didn't have a great season but it wasn't because of a lack of effort. He worked hard last off season and lost a lot of weight. Give him time, he doesn't quit on the field and he hasn't quit on the team.
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we have given him time, that is what 2010 and 2011 were for. We didn't want to see him regress. If he was injured that would be one thing, but he wasn't. We cutt Kelly Gregg for Cody. Next year is a make or break year for him

[akacrow]

Cody will be at least serviceable if he gains weight back and keeps working out. Cody tried to become a 3 down DT overnight.

[dhstandard]

[quote name='Ravensuperfan1' timestamp='1362871973' post='1383204']
that is a lot of ifs my man
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Which is why I want to draft a new guy this year. He's only earning 500k this season so we have no reason to cut him. Virtually zero risk/high reward.

[Yatagarasu]

2010 was a brutal draft for us since Ozzie missed out on a lot of talents. I wonder if Cody could've dropped to the 3rd round. Anyway it is the past. Good thing about this draft is that we can land a good DL talent in the back of the 1st round.

[dhstandard]

[quote name='Ravensuperfan1' timestamp='1362874494' post='1383248']
we have given him time, that is what 2010 and 2011 were for. We didn't want to see him regress. If he was injured that would be one thing, but he wasn't. We cutt Kelly Gregg for Cody. Next year is a make or break year for him
[/quote]

This is a bad statement. He hasn't had time. He was forced to cut weight by the coaches so he could play more often. Give him a chance to get his strength and muscle mass up now since he isn't focused on all this running and calisthenics.

[dhstandard]

[quote name='Corvus Amplus' timestamp='1362876890' post='1383302']
2010 was a brutal draft for us since Ozzie missed out on a lot of talents. I wonder if Cody could've dropped to the 3rd round. Anyway it is the past. Good thing about this draft is that we can land a good DL talent in the back of the 1st round.
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Can't blame Ozzie for this one. We almost had Gronk but the Patsies traded up to grab him. We settled for Kindle who was a beast but had his freak accident unfortunately. You have a few guys in the mid rounds who turned out to be great players that he missed, but you can't get them all. Pitta was a great acquisition.

[CalvinSmoke]

[quote name='Corvus Amplus' timestamp='1362873841' post='1383234']
What the heck?

Cardio? Calisthenics?

No wonder Cody got eaten up this past year. He's working to lose weight, not get stronger. The trainer should make him Power Lift and build muscle instead of cutting weight.

[media]http://youtube.com/watch?v=ezaAMcCy3u4[/media]

This Evan Mathis 8 week workout should've been Cody's guideline last year.

I rather take a strong 300 lb Cody than a flabby 350 lb Cody.

Also for Ngata, he has to take up yoga because his body been breaking down lately. Flexibility is key in preventing serious injuries and reducing tears.
[/quote] He did a lot of flexibility training this year. Remember that trainer that we brought in, Matt Birk's long time trainer. He apparently helped Ngata make movements he could never do before. Like hold his head up while in his stance .

[akacrow]

The last thing Cody needed to do was drop weight, Cody needed to add muscle while he maintained his fat assness.

[EdReedFTW]

[quote name='dhstandard' timestamp='1362877381' post='1383311']
Can't blame Ozzie for this one. We almost had Gronk but the Patsies traded up to grab him. We settled for Kindle who was a beast but had his freak accident unfortunately. You have a few guys in the mid rounds who turned out to be great players that he missed, but you can't get them all. Pitta was a great acquisition.
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Supposedly gronk was off the draft board due to medical issues.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='akacrow' timestamp='1362879106' post='1383345']
The last thing Cody needed to do was drop weight, Cody needed to add muscle while he maintained his[b] fat assness[/b].
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That actually made me laugh aloud. Good description lol

[Ravensuperfan1]

[quote name='dhstandard' timestamp='1362877227' post='1383307']
This is a bad statement. He hasn't had time. He was forced to cut weight by the coaches so he could play more often. Give him a chance to get his strength and muscle mass up now since he isn't focused on all this running and calisthenics.
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we drafted him in 2010. It is now 2013.
2010- his rookie year
2011- he had a good year and showed real promis
2012- bad year

what will 2013 bring. I don't know but he better show something. He isn't a rookie and we've given him time. 2013 will be a big year for him. His last chance to prove if he is starting NT material or not. And he's got a lot of reassuring to do after this season.

So I don't understand this talk of not getting a chance. He's gotten more chances than a lot of players and he has an opportunity to show his stuff in practice and overtime he steps onto the practice field.

Don't turn into a Tebow apologist on me now. Anytime someone is given an opportunity to start multiple games you can't say they haven't had a chance.

[dhstandard]

[quote name='Ravensuperfan1' timestamp='1362880533' post='1383367']
we drafted him in 2010. It is now 2013.
2010- his rookie year
2011- he had a good year and showed real promis
2012- bad year

what will 2013 bring. I don't know but he better show something. He isn't a rookie and we've given him time. 2013 will be a big year for him. His last chance to prove if he is starting NT material or not. And he's got a lot of reassuring to do after this season.

So I don't understand this talk of not getting a chance. He's gotten more chances than a lot of players and he has an opportunity to show his stuff in practice and overtime he steps onto the practice field.

Don't turn into a Tebow apologist on me now. Anytime someone is given an opportunity to start multiple games you can't say they haven't had a chance.
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2010-Rookie Year. Didn't actually play because we had Kelly Gregg
2011- Gets starting time because Gregg is relaesed
2012- Asked to drop weight so he doesn't have to come out of games as often. Struggles.
2013- Uses the offseason to regain his strength and put on lean muscle mass. Becomes great player OR Gets lazy, plays poorly again.

Pick one. Nose Tackles shouldn't be asked to drop weight. Trainers should have put him on a healthy diet with a small caloric surplus while he did heavy strength training and a little bit of cardio.

His lack of production isn't really his fault. He did what he was asked but it was a bad plan. Ngata was asked to drop weight and he put it back on because it was a dumb idea. Sometimes that extra endurance isn't worth losing the fat even if it's just fat. He needs his weight back and to put on more muscle. I'm not advocating him, but it's worth 500k in cap room to see if he has what it takes.

[mgridda]

Cody plays like a Raven on the field: he loves the game. Yes.

He doesn't quit and has a motor. However, he doesn't TRAiN like a Raven. i'd like to see him do more of Evan Mathis' workout. Yeah. The only problem is that admittedly Cody might put a lot of strain on his joints if he hits the weights too hard w/ an explosive workout as opposed to a balanced one and stabilizers.


And regarding protein, trust me: you want as much protein in your bloodstream as possible. if you can do 70% protein / 15 carbs / 15 fats/sugars you'd be doing great. Cody could be an absolute legend. He just has to hit the weight room hard this year. i wish i could email him the Evan Mathis video and tell him to sign up for that program.

i feel like Cody is going to be another Raven who sucks for 3 years, then turns it on during his contract year. sigh. He doesn't need to do cardio like that. He needs to hit the gym Evan Mathis style and increase strength, lose body fat (for mobility): the cardio will come along naturally when exerting himself to lift that heavy [profanity deleted] weight.

[runamuk]

while he is taking his time we are getting gashed on the run and that has to stop . we can not give up thousands of yards a season . we need a nose tackle before ngata gets crippled for lack of support stuffing the run. the superbowl was a prime example we almost lost becasue ngata got injured.I was happy when we drafted cody but now not so much. i hope you all are right and he turns it on full blast this year.

[Ravensuperfan1]

[quote name='dhstandard' timestamp='1362886447' post='1383478']
2010-Rookie Year. Didn't actually play because we had Kelly Gregg
2011- Gets starting time because Gregg is relaesed
2012- Asked to drop weight so he doesn't have to come out of games as often. Struggles.
2013- Uses the offseason to regain his strength and put on lean muscle mass. Becomes great player OR Gets lazy, plays poorly again.

Pick one. Nose Tackles shouldn't be asked to drop weight. Trainers should have put him on a healthy diet with a small caloric surplus while he did heavy strength training and a little bit of cardio.

His lack of production isn't really his fault. He did what he was asked but it was a bad plan. Ngata was asked to drop weight and he put it back on because it was a dumb idea. Sometimes that extra endurance isn't worth losing the fat even if it's just fat. He needs his weight back and to put on more muscle. I'm not advocating him, but it's worth 500k in cap room to see if he has what it takes.
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pick one what? Maybe his offseason work and weight had to do with his performance this year. I don't think I can say that it definitively did. End of the day its on him to get health and be in the best shape. If trainers did give him some bad guidance than perhaps they are partially to blame. For me I'm not really comfortable just blaming his poor play entirely on his weight. Just having him put back on the weight isn't super reassuring to me. I'd rather not cut anyone, but he's a name I'd throw out before Boldin or Leach. I don't really know what we are arguing about. The man had a bad year and it wasn't due to injury. So far as I'm concerned he's got some ground to make up.

He's never been a great pass rusher, but was solid against the run in 2011. He wasn't particularly fast. Traditionally I like to give players 4 to 5 years before making a strong assessment, but your playing with a lot of hypotheticals right now I can only judge and evaluate with what I'm given. Cody will be back next year, but he's got to step it up. I want more out of him and the Ravens definitely want more out of him. He needs to play better than he did in 2011, and much better than he did last season

[Grapple Raven]

If I remember correctly, didn't Ozzie call out Cody at the beginning of the season last year...saying that Cody needed to step his game up...essentially putting him on notice?

[dhstandard]

[quote name='Ravensuperfan1' timestamp='1362894636' post='1383609']
pick one what? Maybe his offseason work and weight had to do with his performance this year. I don't think I can say that it definitively did. End of the day its on him to get health and be in the best shape. If trainers did give him some bad guidance than perhaps they are partially to blame. For me I'm not really comfortable just blaming his poor play entirely on his weight. Just having him put back on the weight isn't super reassuring to me. I'd rather not cut anyone, but he's a name I'd throw out before Boldin or Leach. I don't really know what we are arguing about. The man had a bad year and it wasn't due to injury. So far as I'm concerned he's got some ground to make up.

He's never been a great pass rusher, but was solid against the run in 2011. He wasn't particularly fast. Traditionally I like to give players 4 to 5 years before making a strong assessment, but your playing with a lot of hypotheticals right now I can only judge and evaluate with what I'm given. Cody will be back next year, but he's got to step it up. I want more out of him and the Ravens definitely want more out of him. He needs to play better than he did in 2011, and much better than he did last season
[/quote]

I'm simply saying all the blame shouldn't be on him. Part of it is the coaching staff. We didn't blame Ngata when he played poorly after being forced to drop weight. Didn't blame Suggs either on his down season a few years back.

[dhstandard]

[quote name='mgridda' timestamp='1362891727' post='1383580']
Cody plays like a Raven on the field: he loves the game. Yes.

He doesn't quit and has a motor. However, he doesn't TRAiN like a Raven. i'd like to see him do more of Evan Mathis' workout. Yeah. The only problem is that admittedly Cody might put a lot of strain on his joints if he hits the weights too hard w/ an explosive workout as opposed to a balanced one and stabilizers.


And regarding protein, trust me: you want as much protein in your bloodstream as possible. if you can do 70% protein / 15 carbs / 15 fats/sugars you'd be doing great. Cody could be an absolute legend. He just has to hit the weight room hard this year. i wish i could email him the Evan Mathis video and tell him to sign up for that program.

i feel like Cody is going to be another Raven who sucks for 3 years, then turns it on during his contract year. sigh. He doesn't need to do cardio like that. He needs to hit the gym Evan Mathis style and increase strength, lose body fat (for mobility): the cardio will come along naturally when exerting himself to lift that heavy [profanity deleted] weight.
[/quote]

70% protein and 15% carbs? Dude that's the dumbest thing I have h can't heard. His body can't process nearly 1k grams of protein in a day. Carbs are the main source of energy out of the three and should be the highest consumed by far.

[gregreid5]

I still remember how good cody was at Alabama. He hasnt put in the work to be good in the NFL. I think he lost size and weight last year. Let him play half the snaps at 370 with minimal stamina if thats when he is at his best. We need Mt Cody in for rushing downs. Hopefully he puts in the work this offseason because he looked like a sure fire top 10 NT in the NFL coming out of college. I was ecstatic when we got him

[Ravensuperfan1]

[quote name='dhstandard' timestamp='1362949276' post='1384130']
I'm simply saying all the blame shouldn't be on him. Part of it is the coaching staff. We didn't blame Ngata when he played poorly after being forced to drop weight. Didn't blame Suggs either on his down season a few years back.
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Suggs had shown us before he could play at a high level, and he still performed adequately during his off year. All Ngata's poor play can be attributed to injury.

I'm just saying if its between Cody and Boldin or some other proven players. I'd lean Cody right now. Man's still got to show me he can be the starter I want him to be

[mgridda]

[quote name='dhstandard' timestamp='1362949343' post='1384131']
70% protein and 15% carbs? Dude that's the dumbest thing I have h can't heard. His body can't process nearly 1k grams of protein in a day. Carbs are the main source of energy out of the three and should be the highest consumed by far.
[/quote]

Okay, lol maybe i was pushing it, no need for him to get ketosis. But seriously cody needs to up the protein and lift hard all off-season come into TC like the hulk.

[dhstandard]

[quote name='Ravensuperfan1' timestamp='1362950326' post='1384150']
Suggs had shown us before he could play at a high level, and he still performed adequately during his off year. All Ngata's poor play can be attributed to injury.

I'm just saying if its between Cody and Boldin or some other proven players. I'd lean Cody right now. Man's still got to show me he can be the starter I want him to be
[/quote]

How can it be between Boldin and Cody? Cutting Cody saved 500k, pocket change. Cutting Boldin saves 4 or 5 million from what I s recall. Boldin is proven and age really only makes him slower, but he has shown it hasn't affected him.

Ngata played poorly even when not injured after cutting his weight. He was nowhere near as dominate.

[Ravensuperfan1]

[quote name='dhstandard' timestamp='1362959031' post='1384394']
How can it be between Boldin and Cody? Cutting Cody saved 500k, pocket change. Cutting Boldin saves 4 or 5 million from what I s recall. Boldin is proven and age really only makes him slower, but he has shown it hasn't affected him.

Ngata played poorly even when not injured after cutting his weight. He was nowhere near as dominate.
[/quote]

I wouldn't cut him but Boldin's worth his price tag will see about Cody. I'm only speaking hypothetically if we really need to find places to shave some dough Boldin's not someone we should be focused on. He's the most reliable reciever and isn't going to slow down anymore.

I can't recall Ngata ever playing poorly when healthy

[justifythegame]

[quote name='akacrow' timestamp='1362879106' post='1383345']
The last thing Cody needed to do was drop weight, Cody needed to add muscle while he maintained his fat assness.
[/quote]
lol

[BloodRaven]

His time is up, we need to replace him and i'll be disappointed if we don't.

He's completely useless and should be in the CFL.

[Bltravens]

[quote name='BloodRaven' timestamp='1362970249' post='1384682']
His time is up, we need to replace him and i'll be disappointed if we don't.

He's completely useless and should be in the CFL.
[/quote]
As a resident Canadian who watches the CFL from time to time, there is no place in that league for a 350 pound NT lol. The Canadian game is all about undersized guys and a wide open field to spread defenses out. Cody would have no position to play.

[BloodRaven]

[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1362983519' post='1384871']
As a resident Canadian who watches the CFL from time to time, there is no place in that league for a 350 pound NT lol. The Canadian game is all about undersized guys and a wide open field to spread defenses out. [b]Cody would have no position to play.[/b]
[/quote]

No doot aboot it.