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[News] Eisenberg: Tom Brady Deal Has No Bearing On Joe Flacco

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Negotiations mean both sides will walk away with a deal they can take.

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Are you kidding me??...Brady has rings(plural) and tons of money made through out his career. He can afford to take a cut. But their making it look like he's doing such a big deal..he's not. Give Joe his dollars and to heck with Brady and this lame attempt to appear like it's a sacrifice.
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Flacco was offered a 16 mill/year contract last year and opted to play out his rookie contract only making 6 mill. That's a 10 million discount he gave us last year and he won us a SB while doing it with a team, that was fairly average.
I always saw the Ravens as an organization, that mostly treated it's players fair. I can't even count how many times Joe was unfairly the target for criticism and ridicule, even by the Ravens fanbase. He earned the big payday. Get it done.
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[font=trebuchet ms,helvetica,sans-serif][i]I'd gladly pay Brady's salary out of my own pocket for him to quit... then we can get back to REAL football.[/i][/font]
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We need to get the deal done. I am so tired of reading all of the negativity from Mike Florio at Profootballtalk. He makes our front office look like they don't have a clue. Is this guy a Steeler fan or something?
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And now Roethlisberger is negotiating a cap-saving restructure too. At this rate the Ravens can just dangle the exclusive tag as leverage. What was once going to be a weakness is fast becoming a weapon.
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[i][b][color=#555555][font=Arial, sans-serif][size=3][background=rgb(225, 227, 228)]Flacco is a younger guy than Brady, just entering his prime earning years. Brady, 35, has already signed several huge contracts, including a $60 million deal in 2005 and a $72 million deal in 2010. Between that, his many endorsements and what his supermodel wife commands, he probably already has enough in the bank to match the gross national product of some countries.[/background][/size][/font][/color][/b][/i]


Thankyou for ^THAT!
If that doesnt put things in perspective for you and you still thing Brady is a saint for "taking one for the team" that's already paid him enough to [size=4]buy a personal Island over 13 years while Flacco so far just has enough for a really nice house and a couple of decent college educations....i cant even hold conversation with you.[/size]
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Everyone .... you do realize that Brady is guaranteed virtually his entire contract, right? So, it is "team friendly" from a cap standpoint, but "team risky" in that they are absolutely wedded to him until 2017.

So, if Ravens fans think Flacco should change his side of the deal to take less overall money, then you need to expect the team to change its side of the deal and load it full with guaranteed money.

So, give Flacco 6 years 14M per with 70M guaranteed? The team would never do that. Neither would Flacco. So ... as Mr. Eisenberg said, this deal has no bearing on the Flacco contract situation.
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[quote name='reed20fence' timestamp='1361912815' post='1370172']
And now Roethlisberger is negotiating a cap-saving restructure too. At this rate the Ravens can just dangle the exclusive tag as leverage. What was once going to be a weakness is fast becoming a weapon.
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Stafford, Peyton, Eli, and Brees are Ben's company in the top 5 cap numbers.
Brees and Peyton have brand new contracts.
Dont think Lions and Giants are in a rush to extend Stafford or Eli nor are they strapped for cash, and theyve only got two more years on their contracts, makes no sense to restructure.
Brady chopped bout 800K off the tag, Ben probably wont make much of a splash because he just restructured last year, he cant give too much more back, and i dont see him dropping out of the top 5, he's number 4 at the moment.
At most, tag value might drop to 18.2 Mil +- .3, Joe still about to get paid, there wont be anymore of this 16 million wishful thinking a lot of you keep throwing out there, anyway you look at it.
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they will just move ben's money around too. it may impact the exclusive tag like brady's did but i would be ok with that . just make the deal already . ben is old fat and injured allot brady is old . yes both can still play ball flacco is better before all is said and done caldwell and flacco are going to start raking up rings and pro bowls book it
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it did have a bearing though... it lowered the exclusive tag by 800 K... if ben's gets done by 4th of march, than joe's exclusive tag would be about $18mil... i would rather sign a contract... and let everybody concentrate on draft and other free agency matters
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.flacco is just average. If he takes the big money and goes back to being a statue in the pocket. Man that will be bad right.
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I would like to see him take a bit lower contract but have more guaranteed money. Win-Win... And Brady has no impact on any QB contract. His wife makes 45 million a year. They live quite comfortably.
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[quote name='rayvens5252' timestamp='1361914150' post='1370211']
.flacco is just average. If he takes the big money and goes back to being a statue in the pocket. Man that will be bad right.
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Flacco is not just average. If he was he would not have been the Super Bowl MVP or tied the all time great's record of 11 TD's and 0 INT's. He will flourish more than ever with Cam gone as we have seen by the end of the season.
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[quote name='PolishRifle' timestamp='1361912204' post='1370164']
Flacco was offered a 16 mill/year contract last year and opted to play out his rookie contract only making 6 mill. That's a 10 million discount he gave us last year and he won us a SB while doing it with a team, that was fairly average.
I always saw the Ravens as an organization, that mostly treated it's players fair. I can't even count how many times Joe was unfairly the target for criticism and ridicule, even by the Ravens fanbase. He earned the big payday. Get it done.
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Joe turned that contract down, but he didn't give us a 10 million dollar discount. Joe was the smart one, he knew that if he flourished this year, and took us to the superbowl, which he obviously did, then he would have the leverage to make 20 mill a year. If we didn't win the superbowl, and joe didn't do very well, he still would have got 16 million a year ATLEAST. Joe Flacco wasn't going anywhere, and he knew he was going to get paid, he just took a gamble to see if he could get more. He won that gamble.
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$18 million with more guaranteed $$ sounds fair to me. the lesser he takes the better for the team
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For those interested:

RT @AlbertBreer: If Roethlisberger comes him off the list, Rivers ($17.11M) goes in top 5
equation for the exclusive QB tag, dropping it $500K to $19.136M.

https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/306530264245473281
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Flacco and Brady are in NO WAY comparable. 1) Brady is 35, Flacco is 27 - 5 years from now Brady will be done, while Flacco will be entering a stage of his career where most of the HOF level quarterbacks did their damage. 2) Brady has made a ton of money per year in the last few years, I believe at 23 million last year, whereas Flacco is still on his rookie contract. 3) Not that this should be too relevant, but Brady's wife makes more than just about any 2 players in the league put together - I'm sure he could play for free and still live rather nicely on her dime. 4) EVERY single cornerstone player in this franchise's history signed a big-time deal when it was their turn - none of them took a hometown discount. Why should the quarterback who is the biggest reason we're Superbowl champions this year have to do anything different.
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Flacco played the entire season without a new contract. What if he would have gotten injured? Nobody is giving him kudos for that. Also, I caution that there needs to be a legit left tackle signed/drafted to protect this investment the Ravens are about to make.
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"But to characterize the talks in any way at this point is to jump to conclusions."

I don't think people are characterizing the talks, they are just expressing hope that the Ravens may be able to reach a deal with Flacco that benefits the team as much as Brady's contract benefits the Patriots.
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If Flacco wants to win more Championships. He'd help us out CAP wise because we are really hurting in that area.
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It's time for Joe to cash in but hopefully they can make it cap-friendly as possible. I believe some of the better performance's from Joe during the play-offs were because of the B-mac move and Caldwell being elevated. I think the B-mac move shows just how important the left o-tackle is.
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Linta says Joe wants a cap-friendly deal that won't cause other players to be cut: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/ravens/2013/02/26/joe-flacco-contract-tom-brady-patriots/1948879/
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Joe can serve his family,his team and city if the Raven brass structure a deal that guarrentees his future money while helping the salary cap now. Joe knows his valve,his worth,he always knew he was "elite". His legacy as a Raven has been solidified with the Super Bowl win now he needs the Ravens to put him at the top of the QB heap GUARRENTEED and Joe will sign a deal that keeps him in the Purple&Black forever while keeping a competitive team around him. GIVE THE MAN HIS MONEY!!
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