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#1 austin4224

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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:19 PM

Resign:
Flacco
Reed
Ellerbe
McKinnie
Pitta

Release/cut:
Williams
McClain
Kruger

Retire:
Ray Lewis
Birk
Ayenbadago

Mock:
1. Kevin Minter LSU ILB: nose for ball, great play recognition
2. DJ Swearinger SC S: physical, solid ballhawk
3. Williams T UNC: could be T of future
4. Brandon Jenkins OLB FSU: very good before injury, good rotation with upshaw
4. Marquess Wilson WR WSU: great steal, impressive in combine, very boldin like with strong hands
5. Jon Biostic ILB Florida: good run thumper
5. Tyrann Matheiu CB LSU: take the risk
5. AJ Francis DT Maryland: high motor, good potential
6. Joe Kruger DE Utah: decent rush
6. Matt Furstenburg TE Maryland: models game after Pitta, steal
7. Cierre Wood RB ND: solid depth
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:53 PM

Resign:
Flacco
Reed
Ellerbe
McKinnie
Pitta

Release/cut:
Williams
McClain
Kruger

Retire:
Ray Lewis
Birk
Ayenbadago

Mock:
1. Kevin Minter LSU ILB: nose for ball, great play recognition
2. DJ Swearinger SC S: physical, solid ballhawk
3. Williams T UNC: could be T of future
4. Brandon Jenkins OLB FSU: very good before injury, good rotation with upshaw
4. Marquess Wilson WR WSU: great steal, impressive in combine, very boldin like with strong hands
5. Jon Biostic ILB Florida: good run thumper

5. Tyrann Matheiu CB LSU: take the risk
5. AJ Francis DT Maryland: high motor, good potential
6. Joe Kruger DE Utah: decent rush

6. Matt Furstenburg TE Maryland: models game after Pitta, steal
7. Cierre Wood RB ND: solid depth

Bolded means I like it, underlined means I like it but need to look at the player more, meaning I don't know enough about them yet. I haven't researched those guys as much as others. Bostic's not bad, though. Not at all. Strikethrough means I feel like we could get a better player there or I really dislike the player (Williams).

I don't think we can cut a free agent (Kruger), lol. I also don't think we can re-sign Flacco, Ellerbe, & Reed as well as McKinnie. I actually think there's a legit chance the Ravens bring back Reed & Flacco & lose out on McKinnie, Williams, Kruger & Ellerbe. I hope we can keep Ellerbe, though. Love his play.

If we do lose out on Ellerbe, I really want us to pursue a FA NT or DT who can play NT. There are a few guys I have my eye on in FA.
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Posted 25 February 2013 - 11:59 PM

Bolded means I like it, underlined means I like it but need to look at the player more, meaning I don't know enough about them yet. I haven't researched those guys as much as others. Bostic's not bad, though. Not at all. Strikethrough means I feel like we could get a better player there or I really dislike the player (Williams).

I don't think we can cut a free agent (Kruger), lol. I also don't think we can re-sign Flacco, Ellerbe, & Reed as well as McKinnie. I actually think there's a legit chance the Ravens bring back Reed & Flacco & lose out on McKinnie, Williams, Kruger & Ellerbe. I hope we can keep Ellerbe, though. Love his play.

If we do lose out on Ellerbe, I really want us to pursue a FA NT or DT who can play NT. There are a few guys I have my eye on in FA.

The only player in there that I am a fan of is Marquess Wilson. He was a projected first coming into the season and than had some.. Let's just say "disagreements" with the WSU coaching staff. He's a beast at WR though. He's got strong hands, great size, and he's pretty fast and quick. He can pick up YAC and move the chains consistently as well as making the occasional big play. I thought the Boldin comparison was a pretty good one except Wilson isn't quite as physical and plays with a tinch more speed and finesse. Overall a great mid round prospect.
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:28 AM

Bolded means I like it, underlined means I like it but need to look at the player more, meaning I don't know enough about them yet. I haven't researched those guys as much as others. Bostic's not bad, though. Not at all. Strikethrough means I feel like we could get a better player there or I really dislike the player (Williams).

I don't think we can cut a free agent (Kruger), lol. I also don't think we can re-sign Flacco, Ellerbe, & Reed as well as McKinnie. I actually think there's a legit chance the Ravens bring back Reed & Flacco & lose out on McKinnie, Williams, Kruger & Ellerbe. I hope we can keep Ellerbe, though. Love his play.

If we do lose out on Ellerbe, I really want us to pursue a FA NT or DT who can play NT. There are a few guys I have my eye on in FA.


Cut/release means that they won't be with us not cut becUse some of those were FA amd some weren't
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 06:29 AM

The only player in there that I am a fan of is Marquess Wilson. He was a projected first coming into the season and than had some.. Let's just say "disagreements" with the WSU coaching staff. He's a beast at WR though. He's got strong hands, great size, and he's pretty fast and quick. He can pick up YAC and move the chains consistently as well as making the occasional big play. I thought the Boldin comparison was a pretty good one except Wilson isn't quite as physical and plays with a tinch more speed and finesse. Overall a great mid round prospect.


But he catches it like Boldin which is what I was going for and he uses his body well
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:05 AM

I'd like to see us draft

1st: MLB Alec Ogletree-Georgia
2nd: WR Justin Hunter-Tennessee
3rd: S Robert Lester-Alabama
4th:T Chris Faulk-LSU
5th: CB Tyrann Mathieu-LSU
6th: DT AJ Francis-Maryland
7th: TE Jake Stoneburner- Ohio State
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:10 AM

Bolded means I like it, underlined means I like it but need to look at the player more, meaning I don't know enough about them yet. I haven't researched those guys as much as others. Bostic's not bad, though. Not at all. Strikethrough means I feel like we could get a better player there or I really dislike the player (Williams).

I don't think we can cut a free agent (Kruger), lol. I also don't think we can re-sign Flacco, Ellerbe, & Reed as well as McKinnie. I actually think there's a legit chance the Ravens bring back Reed & Flacco & lose out on McKinnie, Williams, Kruger & Ellerbe. I hope we can keep Ellerbe, though. Love his play.

If we do lose out on Ellerbe, I really want us to pursue a FA NT or DT who can play NT. There are a few guys I have my eye on in FA.

Bolded means I like it, underlined means I like it but need to look at the player more, meaning I don't know enough about them yet. I haven't researched those guys as much as others. Bostic's not bad, though. Not at all. Strikethrough means I feel like we could get a better player there or I really dislike the player (Williams).

I don't think we can cut a free agent (Kruger), lol. I also don't think we can re-sign Flacco, Ellerbe, & Reed as well as McKinnie. I actually think there's a legit chance the Ravens bring back Reed & Flacco & lose out on McKinnie, Williams, Kruger & Ellerbe. I hope we can keep Ellerbe, though. Love his play.

If we do lose out on Ellerbe, I really want us to pursue a FA NT or DT who can play NT. There are a few guys I have my eye on in FA.

Bostic Minter could be are future starters at LB and Mathieu is good and is swearinger a SS or FS

Edited by Brandon22, 26 February 2013 - 10:10 AM.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 10:22 AM

Bostic Minter could be are future starters at LB and Mathieu is good and is swearinger a SS or FS

Bostic & Minter have the potential to be but they are not guaranteed future starters. Sorry. I disagree with you there, my man.

I like Mathieu. I think he'll be a beast ST player at worst. That's not bad at all.

I think Swearinger is more of a SS, personally. I really don't know if he can flip those hips enough to play free. I also don't think he has the closing speed to be FS. He hits hard & is an emotional leader and I love that. He has good ball skills, too. He's like a Pollard meets Reed. Nice instincts, hard hitter, emotional leader, may not be the best in coverage.
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:33 AM

Resign:
Flacco
Reed
Ellerbe
McKinnie
Pitta

Release/cut:
Williams
McClain
Kruger

Retire:
Ray Lewis
Birk
Ayenbadago

Mock:
1. Kevin Minter LSU ILB: nose for ball, great play recognition
2. DJ Swearinger SC S: physical, solid ballhawk
3. Williams T UNC: could be T of future
4. Brandon Jenkins OLB FSU: very good before injury, good rotation with upshaw
4. Marquess Wilson WR WSU: great steal, impressive in combine, very boldin like with strong hands
5. Jon Biostic ILB Florida: good run thumper
5. Tyrann Matheiu CB LSU: take the risk
5. AJ Francis DT Maryland: high motor, good potential
6. Joe Kruger DE Utah: decent rush
6. Matt Furstenburg TE Maryland: models game after Pitta, steal
7. Cierre Wood RB ND: solid depth

I dont see us cutting Jameel McClain...he was hurt last year and played in a but of a slump but I beleive the Ravens think he will bounce back in 2013...isnt due too much money and we need all the ILB depth we can get. I also dont see Ayanbadajo retiring...although I could see us releasing him if we are cap desperate.

I like Kevin Minter in the 1st but like him better if we trade back in the early 2nd. Theres a chance Arthur Brown, Datone Jones, or even Damontre Moore-(now labeled a top 25 prospect) could fall to 32, and Minter could likely fall slightly to the 2nd due to height, and lack of speed at the combine. The Ravens will look to see if anyone may have fallen to 32 because there are many opportunites for a steal, but always like to trade back into the early 2nd.

I wouldnt be surprised to see the Ravens take a shot on an elite potential receiver in the 1st like Patterson (hard to imagine falling although theres a chance), or Keenan Allen if Anquan Boldin has to be cut for salary cap reasons.

I swear if I had a dollar for how many times a receiver has been compared to Anquan Boldin...I would go give all the money to Ozzie Newsome so he could resign Boldin to a multi million dollar deal. The receiver that resembles Boldin the most by far is Chris Harper...they are both over 225lbs lack speed but use physicality to make plays. There is no other short stocky strong receiver who resembles Boldin other than Harper in this draft.

Finally I do not see Tyrann Mathieu as a Raven. He has big time issues with Pot...moreso than Da'Rick Rodgers, Alec Ogletree, and say Janoris Jenkins of last years draft. The dude got caught with drugs at school...kicked out, got in trouble with drugs outside of school...went to rehab...then after rehab got arrested for drugs again, dude is addicted to that stuff. I seriously think he will get in trouble with it again down the road, and has a higher chance to do so than any other drug affiliated player in the draft because he seems to never learn from his mistakes. He also doesnt bring much to the table, he is undersized, and raw in many areas...I do see potential for him down the road but he is dangerously risky. Someone will take a reach on him in the 3rd or 4th anyway.

Edited by Purple_ICE 81, 26 February 2013 - 11:35 AM.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:40 AM

I'm not going to be happy if minter is our first pick.
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:44 AM

I'm not going to be happy if minter is our first pick.

Who would you rather pick? I know I would rather have Datone Jones, Arthur Brown, maybe Jesse Williams (not a fan, but between Minter or Jesse...I got with Jesse, not because I dislike Minter either), possibly Te'o (think he could be had late 1st to mid-2nd), Hankins maybe, Star almost definitely if he passes our doctors. I can think of more. Those are just the first couple guys.

But #1, Arthur Brown. He's probably my favorite prospect in the whole draft. My top three players are Arthur Brown, Sharrif Floyd, & Datone Jones. Absolutely love those three.

Heck, I would even consider Robert Woods.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:53 AM

Who would you rather pick? I know I would rather have Datone Jones, Arthur Brown, maybe Jesse Williams (not a fan, but between Minter or Jesse...I got with Jesse, not because I dislike Minter either), possibly Te'o (think he could be had late 1st to mid-2nd), Hankins maybe, Star almost definitely if he passes our doctors. I can think of more. Those are just the first couple guys.

But #1, Arthur Brown. He's probably my favorite prospect in the whole draft. My top three players are Arthur Brown, Sharrif Floyd, & Datone Jones. Absolutely love those three.

Heck, I would even consider Robert Woods.

Yeah Arthur Brown. My favorite prospect is Joeckel, but in our range arthur brown. But yeah Jesse Williams, Datone Jones (who probably goes). My mock is JEsse Williams, Menelik Watson, Gerald Hodges and Tank Carradine

Gerald Hodges is my guy.

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Posted 26 February 2013 - 11:56 AM

Yeah Arthur Brown. My favorite prospect is Joeckel, but in our range arthur brown. But yeah Jesse Williams, Datone Jones (who probably goes). My mock is JEsse Williams, Menelik Watson, Gerald Hodges and Tank Carradine

Really? We can agree to disagree I suppose. I think Watson will be a 4th round pick and I'm sticking to it, lol. And I would rather take a DT in the 3rd than the 1st. I'm just not high on Williams. Jesse Williams, John Jenkins--they're OK. I just don't think they are all that great. I don't think they are worth a 1st.
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 12:00 PM

Really? We can agree to disagree I suppose. I think Watson will be a 4th round pick and I'm sticking to it, lol. And I would rather take a DT in the 3rd than the 1st. I'm just not high on Williams. Jesse Williams, John Jenkins--they're OK. I just don't think they are all that great. I don't think they are worth a 1st.

i just want to know who are future ravens are.

Also San Francisco has similar needs as us and they're one ahead of us. It's going to be tough for pass rushers because New England on down all need Pass Rushers.
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 05:06 PM

I dont see us cutting Jameel McClain...he was hurt last year and played in a but of a slump but I beleive the Ravens think he will bounce back in 2013...isnt due too much money and we need all the ILB depth we can get. I also dont see Ayanbadajo retiring...although I could see us releasing him if we are cap desperate.

I like Kevin Minter in the 1st but like him better if we trade back in the early 2nd. Theres a chance Arthur Brown, Datone Jones, or even Damontre Moore-(now labeled a top 25 prospect) could fall to 32, and Minter could likely fall slightly to the 2nd due to height, and lack of speed at the combine. The Ravens will look to see if anyone may have fallen to 32 because there are many opportunites for a steal, but always like to trade back into the early 2nd.

I wouldnt be surprised to see the Ravens take a shot on an elite potential receiver in the 1st like Patterson (hard to imagine falling although theres a chance), or Keenan Allen if Anquan Boldin has to be cut for salary cap reasons.

I swear if I had a dollar for how many times a receiver has been compared to Anquan Boldin...I would go give all the money to Ozzie Newsome so he could resign Boldin to a multi million dollar deal. The receiver that resembles Boldin the most by far is Chris Harper...they are both over 225lbs lack speed but use physicality to make plays. There is no other short stocky strong receiver who resembles Boldin other than Harper in this draft.

Finally I do not see Tyrann Mathieu as a Raven. He has big time issues with Pot...moreso than Da'Rick Rodgers, Alec Ogletree, and say Janoris Jenkins of last years draft. The dude got caught with drugs at school...kicked out, got in trouble with drugs outside of school...went to rehab...then after rehab got arrested for drugs again, dude is addicted to that stuff. I seriously think he will get in trouble with it again down the road, and has a higher chance to do so than any other drug affiliated player in the draft because he seems to never learn from his mistakes. He also doesnt bring much to the table, he is undersized, and raw in many areas...I do see potential for him down the road but he is dangerously risky. Someone will take a reach on him in the 3rd or 4th anyway.


Watch Wilson he catches the ball perfectly hands out and he has strong hands. I meant the comparison by like possession reciever with the similar qualities as boldin. I think tyrann would be a good raven. We have taken guys with chances before and he has a chip on his shoulder to show that he can still play at the heirs an level hedidin college. He makes big plays in big games and big moments of the game
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 05:25 PM

Bostic & Minter have the potential to be but they are not guaranteed future starters. Sorry. I disagree with you there, my man.

I like Mathieu. I think he'll be a beast ST player at worst. That's not bad at all.

I think Swearinger is more of a SS, personally. I really don't know if he can flip those hips enough to play free. I also don't think he has the closing speed to be FS. He hits hard & is an emotional leader and I love that. He has good ball skills, too. He's like a Pollard meets Reed. Nice instincts, hard hitter, emotional leader, may not be the best in coverage.

then we can still draft him to compete with pollard for the starting strong safety position
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 05:39 PM

then we can still draft him to compete with pollard for the starting strong safety position

Compete with Pollard? You realize we just extended Pollard? He's not getting cut, man. Nor traded. Pollard is going nowhere.
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:06 PM

Watch Wilson he catches the ball perfectly hands out and he has strong hands. I meant the comparison by like possession reciever with the similar qualities as boldin. I think tyrann would be a good raven. We have taken guys with chances before and he has a chip on his shoulder to show that he can still play at the heirs an level hedidin college. He makes big plays in big games and big moments of the game

Tyrran Mathieu will not be a Raven...I would trade up for the number 1 overall pick and draft Dion Simms before drafting Tyrann Mathieu to the Superbowl winning class A Baltimore Ravens
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:34 PM

Tyrran Mathieu will not be a Raven...I would trade up for the number 1 overall pick and draft Dion Simms before drafting Tyrann Mathieu to the Superbowl winning class A Baltimore Ravens


I think we will take the risk. He would be a great ST player atvworst and could move up to 3 and nickel
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Posted 26 February 2013 - 07:43 PM

I think we will take the risk. He would be a great ST player atvworst and could move up to 3 and nickel

We dont need DBs Ozzie Newsome said he likes the DB prospects we have in house-Webb, Smith, Graham, Brown, Jackson, Omar Brown and others....and certainly not one who cant stop doing drugs like Tyrann mathieu he is not a Ravens-esque draft pick. If we get a safety it will be in the 2nd or 3rd round loaded with talented prospects he will get drafted early and I agree with everyone that he will become a great player...just not for baltimore.
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