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[GrimCoconut]

2013 NFL FREE AGENCY

Gains: Free Agents:
Unrestricted Free Agents:
Joe Flacco, QB; Dannell Ellerbe, ILB; Ed Reed, FS; McBean, DT.

Tendered Restricted Free Agents:
Ed Dickson, TE (2^nd round tender); Ramon Harewood, OL (ROFR; 6^th round tender).

Non-Tendered RFAs Re-Signed:
Morgan Cox, LS; David Reed, WR; Emmanuel Cook, S.

Contract Extensions:
Dennis Pitta, TE; Arthur Jones, DT; Corey Graham, CB.

Exclusive-Rights Free Agents: Anthony Allen, RB; Damien Berry, RB; Bobby Rainey, RB; Josh Bynes, LB; Albert McClellan, LB; Bryan Hall, DT; Anthony Levine, S.

Losses: Free Agents, Retirees, & Cuts:
Unrestricted Free Agents:
Paul Kruger, DE/OLB; Cary Williams, CB; Chris Johnson, CB; Billy Bajema, TE; Ricky Brown, LB; Ma’ake Kemoeatu, NT; Sean Considine, S; James Ihedigbo, S.

Retirees/Cuts:
Ray Lewis, ILB; Bobbie Williams, G; Matt Birk, C; Brendon Ayanbadejo, ILB, Jameel McClain ILB.

2013 NFL DRAFT

Draft Picks: #32, #62, #94, #126, #158, #190, #222

Positions of Need: ILB/MLB, OLB/DE, DE/DT/NT, TE, OL, LT, WR, DB

1^st Round Pick, #32:
Datone Jones, DE/DT, UCLA
Explosive off the snap, versatie linemen, very good body mechanics, great agility, excellent hand use; may need to gain weight, small for the position, could get abused by elite offensive linemen. My hardest pick this draft, but I am satisfied. His stock’s all over the place. In a deep DE class, I think he gets overlooked in early rounds and falls right into our lap. I believe he has JJ Watt-potential.

2^nd Round Pick, #62:
Jordan Poyer, DB, Oregon State
Fluid hips, intelligent, soft hands, aggressive, good in zone coverage, good KR/PR, reads QB eyes well; questionable tackling in space, poor recovery speed. Transition to FS to maximize talents and develop him. Can play CB or FS.

3rd Round Pick, #94:
Kiko Alonso, ILB/MLB, Oregon
High motor, exceptional blitzer, excellent anticipation & instincts, great lateral speed, great coverage against TEs & RBs, very good awareness, versatility (played OLB, ILB, MLB); takes very poor angles, injuries (torn ACL), character issues (alcohol-related).

4^th Round Pick, #126
Montori Hughes, NT, Tennessee-Martin
High motor, quick, explosive off the snap, natural NT-size, strong; takes plays off, character concerns, didn’t dominant competition when at Tennessee.

4^th Round Pick, Compensatory Pick:
Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
Quick feet, agile, explosive off the snap, strong, tremendous athleticism, excellent height (6’6”); raw, unpolished, poor hand use, & older rookie (24yrs). I think his negatives drop him and we snatch him up here. I love Faulk, but I see him going early (early- or mid-2^nd round), & other prospects reached on (DJ Fluker) before him. Too much potential to pass on here.

5^th Round Pick, #158:
Trevardo Williams, OLB, University of Connecticut
Good tackler, extremely quick, great timing, explosive, uses hands very well, very good footwork; lacks ideal size of DE and looks more like an OLB, limited pass rushing moves, undersized at present, not extremely aggressive. High-upside player in need of refinement. I’ve seen him listed higher in some mocks, but I think he drops here.

5^th Round Pick, Compensatory:
David Quessenberry, OL, San Jose State
Versatile, good physical measurements to be able to play any OL position, agile, quick, good footwork, good speed; not exceptionally strong, average athlete, needs technique refinement.

6^th Round Pick, #198:
Michael Williams, TE, Alabama:
Strong, great measurements, capable blocker, good footwork, decent hands & above-average athleticism; slow speed, technique needs work, doesn't look like a #1 TE. I think people are overrating him around here, TBH. He looked good in the SB, but his entire body of work is rather average as a receiver. He’s a blocking TE and I think teams see him that way.

6^th Round Compensatory Pick:
John Boyett, S, Oregon:
Good awareness, aggressive, high motor, good at reading QBs eyes, capable at deflecting passes, good athlete, very intelligent, playmaker; injury history will drop him, small (5'11"), not the fastest, may receive penalties due to aggression.

7^th Round Pick:
Braxston Cave, C, Notre Dame
I wasn't sure what would be here, but I’m going with OL. I just think this will be the best value position left. Centers usually drop further than people expect. Good feet, motor, strong, intelligent; not very athletic, a bit small for the position, struggles with speed.

Pick up some LBs as UDFA. Not sure who will be there, but I think some good ones drop, they usually do. I think there’s a legit chance AJ Klein goes undrafted, in which case I’d take him in a heartbeat.

I won't make another mock until a bit after the combine, probably before the pro days. I like to see how my predictions work out compared to combine results. The only way I would change my picks and do a mock sooner is if guys really shoot up draft boards. I'm very pleased with the players I got here.

Edited by GrimCoconut, 18 February 2013 - 04:48 PM.

[arnie_uk]

Sme people have Watson going in the first

[GrimCoconut]

Sme people have Watson going in the first

Yeah, I saw, but after watching a lot of YouTube college tapes on him (game footage, not highlights) he has a lot of work to do. I just don't see him as a 1st round prospect at all.

[Mt. Crushmore]

Exclusive-Rights Free Agents: Anthony Allen, RB; Damien Berry, RB; Bobby Rainey, RB; Josh Bynes, LB; Albert McClellan, LB; Bryan Hall, DT; Anthony Levine, S.

I think there’s a legit chance AJ Klein goes undrafted, in which case I’d take him in a heartbeat.

What about Omar Brown?

Also, I highly doubt Klein goes undrafted, I think he goes between the 4th and 6th.

[Miami Hurricane]

2013 NFL FREE AGENCY

Gains: Free Agents:
Unrestricted Free Agents:
Joe Flacco, QB; Dannell Ellerbe, ILB; Ed Reed, FS; McBean, DT.

Tendered Restricted Free Agents:
Ed Dickson, TE (2^nd round tender); Ramon Harewood, OL (ROFR; 6^th round tender).

Non-Tendered RFAs Re-Signed:
Morgan Cox, LS; David Reed, WR; Emmanuel Cook, S.

Contract Extensions:
Dennis Pitta, TE; Arthur Jones, DT; Corey Graham, CB.

Exclusive-Rights Free Agents: Anthony Allen, RB; Damien Berry, RB; Bobby Rainey, RB; Josh Bynes, LB; Albert McClellan, LB; Bryan Hall, DT; Anthony Levine, S.

Losses: Free Agents, Retirees, & Cuts:
Unrestricted Free Agents:
Paul Kruger, DE/OLB; Cary Williams, CB; Chris Johnson, CB; Billy Bajema, TE; Ricky Brown, LB; Ma’ake Kemoeatu, NT; Sean Considine, S; James Ihedigbo, S.

Retirees/Cuts:
Ray Lewis, ILB; Bobbie Williams, G; Matt Birk, C; Brendon Ayanbadejo, ILB, Jameel McClain ILB.

2013 NFL DRAFT

Draft Picks: #32, #62, #94, #126, #158, #190, #222

Positions of Need: ILB/MLB, OLB/DE, DE/DT/NT, TE, OL, LT, WR, DB

1^st Round Pick, #32:
Datone Jones, DE/DT, UCLA
Explosive off the snap, versatie linemen, very good body mechanics, great agility, excellent hand use; may need to gain weight, small for the position, could get abused by elite offensive linemen. My hardest pick this draft, but I am satisfied. His stock’s all over the place. In a deep DE class, I think he gets overlooked in early rounds and falls right into our lap. I believe he has JJ Watt-potential.

2^nd Round Pick, #62:
Jordan Poyer, DB, Oregon State
Fluid hips, intelligent, soft hands, aggressive, good in zone coverage, good KR/PR, reads QB eyes well; questionable tackling in space, poor recovery speed. Transition to FS to maximize talents and develop him. Can play CB or FS.

3rd Round Pick, #94:
Kiko Alonso, ILB/MLB, Oregon
High motor, exceptional blitzer, excellent anticipation & instincts, great lateral speed, great coverage against TEs & RBs, very good awareness, versatility (played OLB, ILB, MLB); takes very poor angles, injuries (torn ACL), character issues (alcohol-related).

4^th Round Pick, #126
Montori Hughes, NT, Tennessee-Martin
High motor, quick, explosive off the snap, natural NT-size, strong; takes plays off, character concerns, didn’t dominant competition when at Tennessee.

4^th Round Pick, Compensatory Pick:
Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
Quick feet, agile, explosive off the snap, strong, tremendous athleticism, excellent height (6’6”); raw, unpolished, poor hand use, & older rookie (24yrs). I think his negatives drop him and we snatch him up here. I love Faulk, but I see him going early (early- or mid-2^nd round), & other prospects reached on (DJ Fluker) before him. Too much potential to pass on here.

5^th Round Pick, #158:
Trevardo Williams, OLB, University of Connecticut
Good tackler, extremely quick, great timing, explosive, uses hands very well, very good footwork; lacks ideal size of DE and looks more like an OLB, limited pass rushing moves, undersized at present, not extremely aggressive. High-upside player in need of refinement. I’ve seen him listed higher in some mocks, but I think he drops here.

5^th Round Pick, Compensatory:
David Quessenberry, OL, San Jose State
Versatile, good physical measurements to be able to play any OL position, agile, quick, good footwork, good speed; not exceptionally strong, average athlete, needs technique refinement.

6^th Round Pick, #198:
Michael Williams, TE, Alabama:
Strong, great measurements, capable blocker, good footwork, decent hands & above-average athleticism; slow speed, technique needs work, doesn't look like a #1 TE. I think people are overrating him around here, TBH. He looked good in the SB, but his entire body of work is rather average as a receiver. He’s a blocking TE and I think teams see him that way.

6^th Round Compensatory Pick:
John Boyett, S, Oregon:
Good awareness, aggressive, high motor, good at reading QBs eyes, capable at deflecting passes, good athlete, very intelligent, playmaker; injury history will drop him, small (5'11"), not the fastest, may receive penalties due to aggression.

7^th Round Pick:
Braxston Cave, C, Notre Dame
I wasn't sure what would be here, but I’m going with OL. I just think this will be the best value position left. Centers usually drop further than people expect. Good feet, motor, strong, intelligent; not very athletic, a bit small for the position, struggles with speed.

Pick up some LBs as UDFA. Not sure who will be there, but I think some good ones drop, they usually do. I think there’s a legit chance AJ Klein goes undrafted, in which case I’d take him in a heartbeat.

I won't make another mock until a bit after the combine, probably before the pro days. I like to see how my predictions work out compared to combine results. The only way I would change my picks and do a mock sooner is if guys really shoot up draft boards. I'm very pleased with the players I got here.

I love it except for two things.
1. I would like to retain Ihedigbo.
2. I think Quessenberry goes a bit higher.

[GrimCoconut]

What about Omar Brown?

Also, I highly doubt Klein goes undrafted, I think he goes between the 4th and 6th.

Oops. Yeah, I'd put him in there. I can see him going in those rounds as well, but I'm not sure. ILB prospects are difficult to predict and I can see him going undrafted.

I love it except for two things.
1. I would like to retain Ihedigbo.
2. I think Quessenberry goes a bit higher.

1. I thought about it, but we have a lot of depth at safety and I don't see the need, frankly.
2. It depends on his combine. Right now, I see him in that round. Just my opinion on where I think he goes. He had a very good SB & practices, but that doesn't really raise draft stock. It only affirms what they know or has them look closer. His technique needs some work and I can see teams passing on him as a guard-only prospect.

Edited by GrimCoconut, 18 February 2013 - 04:57 PM.

[Mr. Irrelevant]

No Dion Simms ?
JK.
Good mock. I love jones in the first

[PolishRifle]

I don't see McKinnie anywhere on your post, but I assume you want Menelik Watson to be his replacement. I doubt he will fall to the 4th round. We can consider ourselves happy if we manage to get him in the 3rd imho and we would have to trade up to get him most likely. Take Poyer out and put Watson in there and your mock is a bit more realistic.
BTW, can you explain to me what we need yet another CB for? I think we are doing fine there.
The Datone Jones pick is solid, but our DL is very lacking up front. Jesse Williams would be a much better 1st pick for us and help our DL more then a DE. Pretty sure we wont get a shot at him anyway (if he does though, he might be worth it).
I am not a big Hughes fan, but then again my Williams pick probably told you that already.
Well thought out draft never the less. A bit "optimistic" though.

[GrimCoconut]

I don't see McKinnie anywhere on your post, but I assume you want Menelik Watson to be his replacement. I doubt he will fall to the 4th round. We can consider ourselves happy if we manage to get him in the 3rd imho and we would have to trade up to get him most likely. Take Poyer out and put Watson in there and your mock is a bit more realistic.
BTW, can you explain to me what we need yet another CB for? I think we are doing fine there.
The Datone Jones pick is solid, but our DL is very lacking up front. Jesse Williams would be a much better 1st pick for us and help our DL more then a DE. Pretty sure we wont get a shot at him anyway (if he does though, he might be worth it).
I am not a big Hughes fan, but then again my Williams pick probably told you that already.
Well thought out draft never the less. A bit "optimistic" though.

Have you watched Watson play? He's raw, man. He's an athlete but he is 24 and will be 25 when he's a rookie and he's raw. I just see him dropping. Faulk, maybe Nixon go before him. People said Blake C from Baylor would be a 2nd round pick maybe 3rd and he went in the 4th because he's an older rookie and he's a center. He was more polished than Watson, who really needs some technique work IMO.

As for McKinnie, I see Oher as his replacement & Reid as his replacement, maybe Watson if he's ready. The FO like our OL per Ozzie. Not sure if it's true but I believe them. Watson needs some development and he can be depth for the first year.

I see Poyer as a CB-FS prospect, meaning we convert him.

I like Hughes personally. Think he has a lot of talent. And as for Williams, I like both Williams' but I'm not sure they are there when we pick and I don't rate Jesse Williams as high as Datone Jones.

[Mt. Crushmore]

I don't see McKinnie anywhere on your post, but I assume you want Menelik Watson to be his replacement. I doubt he will fall to the 4th round. We can consider ourselves happy if we manage to get him in the 3rd imho and we would have to trade up to get him most likely. Take Poyer out and put Watson in there and your mock is a bit more realistic.
BTW, can you explain to me what we need yet another CB for? I think we are doing fine there.
The Datone Jones pick is solid, but our DL is very lacking up front. Jesse Williams would be a much better 1st pick for us and help our DL more then a DE. Pretty sure we wont get a shot at him anyway (if he does though, he might be worth it).
I am not a big Hughes fan, but then again my Williams pick probably told you that already.
Well thought out draft never the less. A bit "optimistic" though.

Assuming Cary signs elsewhere, we will have Webb, Jimmy, Corey Graham, C. Brown, and Asa Jackson.

Webb is coming off his 2nd an ACL tear, Jimmy has had injuries and has played inconsistently, Graham was a huge surprise, Brown played good, and Asa got a 4 games suspension of Adderall and didn't play much.

If we don't sign someone in FA, we will only have 5 CBs. In the NFL today you can never have to many good corners, and I would say you want 6 on your roster.

[GrimCoconut]

Assuming Cary signs elsewhere, we will have Webb, Jimmy, Corey Graham, C. Brown, and Asa Jackson.

Webb is coming off his 2nd an ACL tear, Jimmy has had injuries and has played inconsistently, Graham was a huge surprise, Brown played good, and Asa got a 4 games suspension of Adderall and didn't play much.

If we don't sign someone in FA, we will only have 5 CBs. In the NFL today you can never have to many good corners, and I would say you want 6 on your roster.

This was my thinking as well. I like Poyer as a CB, and if we want we can keep him at safety. He is a really good CB IMO. He has weaknesses that I feel are masked at FS, that's why I am in favor of converting him but regardless he is a very good player and you can never have enough CBs.

[austin4224]

2013 NFL FREE AGENCY

Gains: Free Agents:
Unrestricted Free Agents:
Joe Flacco, QB; Dannell Ellerbe, ILB; Ed Reed, FS; McBean, DT.

Tendered Restricted Free Agents:
Ed Dickson, TE (2^nd round tender); Ramon Harewood, OL (ROFR; 6^th round tender).

Non-Tendered RFAs Re-Signed:
Morgan Cox, LS; David Reed, WR; Emmanuel Cook, S.

Contract Extensions:
Dennis Pitta, TE; Arthur Jones, DT; Corey Graham, CB.

Exclusive-Rights Free Agents: Anthony Allen, RB; Damien Berry, RB; Bobby Rainey, RB; Josh Bynes, LB; Albert McClellan, LB; Bryan Hall, DT; Anthony Levine, S.

Losses: Free Agents, Retirees, & Cuts:
Unrestricted Free Agents:
Paul Kruger, DE/OLB; Cary Williams, CB; Chris Johnson, CB; Billy Bajema, TE; Ricky Brown, LB; Ma’ake Kemoeatu, NT; Sean Considine, S; James Ihedigbo, S.

Retirees/Cuts:
Ray Lewis, ILB; Bobbie Williams, G; Matt Birk, C; Brendon Ayanbadejo, ILB, Jameel McClain ILB.

2013 NFL DRAFT

Draft Picks: #32, #62, #94, #126, #158, #190, #222

Positions of Need: ILB/MLB, OLB/DE, DE/DT/NT, TE, OL, LT, WR, DB

1^st Round Pick, #32:
Datone Jones, DE/DT, UCLA
Explosive off the snap, versatie linemen, very good body mechanics, great agility, excellent hand use; may need to gain weight, small for the position, could get abused by elite offensive linemen. My hardest pick this draft, but I am satisfied. His stock’s all over the place. In a deep DE class, I think he gets overlooked in early rounds and falls right into our lap. I believe he has JJ Watt-potential.

2^nd Round Pick, #62:
Jordan Poyer, DB, Oregon State
Fluid hips, intelligent, soft hands, aggressive, good in zone coverage, good KR/PR, reads QB eyes well; questionable tackling in space, poor recovery speed. Transition to FS to maximize talents and develop him. Can play CB or FS.

3rd Round Pick, #94:
Kiko Alonso, ILB/MLB, Oregon
High motor, exceptional blitzer, excellent anticipation & instincts, great lateral speed, great coverage against TEs & RBs, very good awareness, versatility (played OLB, ILB, MLB); takes very poor angles, injuries (torn ACL), character issues (alcohol-related).

4^th Round Pick, #126
Montori Hughes, NT, Tennessee-Martin
High motor, quick, explosive off the snap, natural NT-size, strong; takes plays off, character concerns, didn’t dominant competition when at Tennessee.

4^th Round Pick, Compensatory Pick:
Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
Quick feet, agile, explosive off the snap, strong, tremendous athleticism, excellent height (6’6”); raw, unpolished, poor hand use, & older rookie (24yrs). I think his negatives drop him and we snatch him up here. I love Faulk, but I see him going early (early- or mid-2^nd round), & other prospects reached on (DJ Fluker) before him. Too much potential to pass on here.

5^th Round Pick, #158:
Trevardo Williams, OLB, University of Connecticut
Good tackler, extremely quick, great timing, explosive, uses hands very well, very good footwork; lacks ideal size of DE and looks more like an OLB, limited pass rushing moves, undersized at present, not extremely aggressive. High-upside player in need of refinement. I’ve seen him listed higher in some mocks, but I think he drops here.

5^th Round Pick, Compensatory:
David Quessenberry, OL, San Jose State
Versatile, good physical measurements to be able to play any OL position, agile, quick, good footwork, good speed; not exceptionally strong, average athlete, needs technique refinement.

6^th Round Pick, #198:
Michael Williams, TE, Alabama:
Strong, great measurements, capable blocker, good footwork, decent hands & above-average athleticism; slow speed, technique needs work, doesn't look like a #1 TE. I think people are overrating him around here, TBH. He looked good in the SB, but his entire body of work is rather average as a receiver. He’s a blocking TE and I think teams see him that way.

6^th Round Compensatory Pick:
John Boyett, S, Oregon:
Good awareness, aggressive, high motor, good at reading QBs eyes, capable at deflecting passes, good athlete, very intelligent, playmaker; injury history will drop him, small (5'11"), not the fastest, may receive penalties due to aggression.

7^th Round Pick:
Braxston Cave, C, Notre Dame
I wasn't sure what would be here, but I’m going with OL. I just think this will be the best value position left. Centers usually drop further than people expect. Good feet, motor, strong, intelligent; not very athletic, a bit small for the position, struggles with speed.

Pick up some LBs as UDFA. Not sure who will be there, but I think some good ones drop, they usually do. I think there’s a legit chance AJ Klein goes undrafted, in which case I’d take him in a heartbeat.

I won't make another mock until a bit after the combine, probably before the pro days. I like to see how my predictions work out compared to combine results. The only way I would change my picks and do a mock sooner is if guys really shoot up draft boards. I'm very pleased with the players I got here.

Why would we release ayanbengado

[PolishRifle]

Have you watched Watson play? He's raw, man. He's an athlete but he is 24 and will be 25 when he's a rookie and he's raw. I just see him dropping. Faulk, maybe Nixon go before him. People said Blake C from Baylor would be a 2nd round pick maybe 3rd and he went in the 4th because he's an older rookie and he's a center. He was more polished than Watson, who really needs some technique work IMO.

As for McKinnie, I see Oher as his replacement & Reid as his replacement, maybe Watson if he's ready. The FO like our OL per Ozzie. Not sure if it's true but I believe them. Watson needs some development and he can be depth for the first year.

I see Poyer as a CB-FS prospect, meaning we convert him.

I like Hughes personally. Think he has a lot of talent. And as for Williams, I like both Williams' but I'm not sure they are there when we pick and I don't rate Jesse Williams as high as Datone Jones.

Yes Watson is raw, but he is still an OT, right? Teams love OTs, loooooove them. Falling down to the 3rd round sure, but I am not buying the 4th round.
And you want to put Oher back to the LT position?

Edited by PolishRifle, 18 February 2013 - 05:23 PM.

[GrimCoconut]

Yes Watson is raw, but he is still an OT, right? Teams love OTs, loooooove them. Falling down to the 3rd round sure, but I am not buying the 4th round.
And you want to put Oher back to the LT position?

Nate Potter was said to be between a 3rd & a 4th round pick and almost went undrafted. Very similar situation here.

I don't want it. It's not about what I want. It's about what I think happens.

Edited by GrimCoconut, 18 February 2013 - 05:25 PM.

[PolishRifle]

Nate Potter was said to be between a 3rd & a 4th round pick and almost went undrafted. Very similar situation here.

I don't want it. It's not about what I want. It's about what I think happens.

Atleast we are on the same page with Oher. I still hope, against all odds, that McKinnie will sign an extension. Boy, would that be great.

You sold me on Alonso though. He is awesome.

Edited by PolishRifle, 18 February 2013 - 05:29 PM.

[gabefergy]

Not really a fan of Poyer or Alonso picks. Poyer I like, but as a CB not safety. I would rather have Swearinger, Reid, or Jefferson here.

I like Alonso, but I think there might be better prospects on the board. I might be wrong about him, but I see him as more of a finesse player. He doesnt have elite athleticism to make up for his lack of physicality.

[Miami Hurricane]

Nate Potter was said to be between a 3rd & a 4th round pick and almost went undrafted. Very similar situation here.

I don't want it. It's not about what I want. It's about what I think happens.

Just look at Matt Reynolds.. Projected 2nd rounder went undrafted.

[GrimCoconut]

Not really a fan of Poyer or Alonso picks. Poyer I like, but as a CB not safety. I would rather have Swearinger, Reid, or Jefferson here.

I like Alonso, but I think there might be better prospects on the board. I might be wrong about him, but I see him as more of a finesse player. He doesnt have elite athleticism to make up for his lack of physicality.

Really? Alonso's one of my favorite ILBs. Who do you think is better in the back of the 3rd? Personally, I think his biggest issue are those poor angles. Other than that I feel like he is a terrific prospect. Him & Klein are right up there for me, as well as Hodges. I really don't like Greene as a 3-4 ILB TBH.

Alonso's got great lateral speed that you want in the Mike, and he has very good instincts. Bit of a playmaker too.

And I understand about Poyer, but I think he's a great prospect to transition. Just do. Great ability to flip hips, experienced in zone & man. I understand what you're saying, but I feel like there's a possibility Swearinger goes in the 1st or high or mid 2nd. I like Jefferson, but I like Poyer's versatility.

Edited by GrimCoconut, 18 February 2013 - 05:47 PM.

[gabefergy]

Really? Alonso's one of my favorite ILBs. Who do you think is better in the back of the 3rd? Personally, I think his biggest issue are those poor angles. Other than that I feel like he is a terrific prospect. Him & Klein are right up there for me, as well as Hodges. I really don't like Greene as a 3-4 ILB TBH.

Alonso's got great lateral speed that you want in the Mike, and he has very good instincts. Bit of a playmaker too.

And I understand about Poyer, but I think he's a great prospect to transition. Just do. Great ability to flip hips, experienced in zone & man. I understand what you're saying, but I feel like there's a possibility Swearinger goes in the 1st or high or mid 2nd. I like Jefferson, but I like Poyer's versatility.

I'd rather take Amerson and convert him to safety if you want to have a DB that can play corner. Bigger, more physical, and a better tackler IMO. But I dont really see why you want to take a CB and convert him. We have CBs already so what's the point? That just seems like a developmental stunt.

At ILB I like Riddick or Davonte Holloman. I think Greene will be gone by then, but if not he is a better playmaker IMO and excellent in coverage. I like Alonso's aggressive nature and instincts but he tends to miss tackles and like you said take bad angles.

[GrimCoconut]

I'd rather take Amerson and convert him to safety if you want to have a DB that can play corner. Bigger, more physical, and a better tackler IMO. But I dont really see why you want to take a CB and convert him. We have CBs already so what's the point? That just seems like a developmental stunt.

At ILB I like Riddick or Davonte Holloman. I think Greene will be gone by then, but if not he is a better playmaker IMO and excellent in coverage. I like Alonso's aggressive nature and instincts but he tends to miss tackles and like you said take bad angles.

Well, my reasoning for a CB conversion is versatility, for one. Poyer played both positions and played them well. I think he's great depth and a top player available at the position we're drafting. Webb's coming off a second ACL and I think he rebounds but there's always a possibility he does not. I love Smith, but Poyer would help push him.

I am also looking ahead. Corey Graham is a FA in 2014, and while I would like to keep him here, I can see us not affording him. Jackson's unproven even though I like him and has had some problems such as banned substances. I like Chykie Brown but I think Poyer's an upgrade. I think Poyer could play FS well and he can learn behind Reed, and be better. If Reed goes down, we have someone capable to fill in for him.

As for other options, I think Greene is strictly a 4-3 OLB, but I can see what you like about him. I like him too. Just not convinced he can play inside here or in the 4-3. I don't think Reddick has the lateral speed to really be better than Alonso, and I feel they are very similar in talent as blitzers but Reddick is better IMO. I just see Alonso as better in coverage. I don't know anything about Hollomon.