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Your QB Rankings?

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[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1361210956' post='1361079']
Wilson isnt the runner Griffin is, but he excels at escaping pressure and extending plays. Also I think Wilson shows better poise and decision making. He is similar to Joe in the way he is always calm and collected. Griffin has more physical gifts and is a good leader, but [b]Wilson is smarter on the field[/b].
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Disagree.
RG3 did great at escaping pressure as well. I don't have a link but I read somewhere he had the highest completion % when facing the blitz. Griffin threw 20 TD's and only 5 INT's. Wilson threw 26 TD's and only 10 INTs. (should be 25 td's, 11 INT's if you count the GB-SEA game). Both of them did great, but imo RG3 made less mistakes. Griffin showed alot of poise as well, especially in games vs his divison. The only way I think Wilson's smarter on the field is knowing when to slide. Everywhere else RG3 had better stats then him. (despite playing 1.5 less games then him, but it could go both ways)..... Also while missing his #1 TE for most the season, #1 WR for half the season, behind a below average offensive line.

Both played out their minds, but those are reasons why he won ROY and Wilson or Luck didn't.
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1361223338' post='1361402']
Disagree.
RG3 did great at escaping pressure as well. I don't have a link but I read somewhere he had the highest completion % when facing the blitz. Griffin threw 20 TD's and only 5 INT's. Wilson threw 26 TD's and only 10 INTs. (should be 25 td's, 11 INT's if you count the GB-SEA game). Both of them did great, but imo RG3 made less mistakes. Griffin showed alot of poise as well, especially in games vs his divison. The only way I think Wilson's smarter on the field is knowing when to slide. Everywhere else RG3 had better stats then him. (despite playing 1.5 less games then him, but it could go both ways)..... Also while missing his #1 TE for most the season, #1 WR for half the season, behind a below average offensive line.

Both played out their minds, but those are reasons why he won ROY and Wilson or Luck didn't.
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I think Wilson knowing when to slide and when to throw the ball while on the run is a considerable difference. Durability is a big concern. Besides, Wilson had a really slow start because the offense was simplified for him, but by the end of the season he was in charge of that offense. Griffin basically played in the same simplistic offense the entire season.
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[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1361223533' post='1361403']
I think Wilson knowing when to slide and when to throw the ball while on the run is a considerable difference. Durability is a big concern. Besides, Wilson had a really slow start because the offense was simplified for him, but by the end of the season he was in charge of that offense. Griffin basically played in the same simplistic offense the entire season.
[/quote]It's not his fault he excelled in that offense. They didn't have to change it, it was working. I also think Griffin threw on the run just as good as Wilson did. I can't wait to compare the two by the end of next season. I just think Griffin has an all around better physical skillset. The only thing that held him back was his decision making regarding when to slide.
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1361224345' post='1361415']
It's not his fault he excelled in that offense. They didn't have to change it, it was working. I also think Griffin threw on the run just as good as Wilson did. I can't wait to compare the two by the end of next season. I just think Griffin has an all around better physical skillset. The only thing that held him back was his decision making regarding when to slide.
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I think Griffin tended to run more, while Wilson tried to extend plays and make downfield throws more often. I prefer the latter because a) it doesnt put him at risk and b.) it generally picks up more yards. It's also impossible to know if Griffin will be the same player after another ACL surgery.
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1. Rogers-dude throws darts....do I need any other reasoning
2. Peyton Manning-carried the Denver broncos coming off back surgery
3. Brees-makes all of the throws, but is a little bit too much of a gunslinger. Only player on the saints that is worth watching
4. Eli-2xSB champ, wreaks of clutchness, down year but with a better running game and healthy receivers I don't see why he couldn't get there a third time
5.Tom Brady-great passer statically, but is quite possibly the biggest system QB of our time; just my opinion, plays in the weakest division so wins aren't really that impressive. 3xSB champ so he belongs top 5
6.Ben-2xSB, was playing fantastic before the injury. That being said my list is more about the here and now and I think Ben's injuries are going to get the best of him.
7. Russell Wilson-What Wilson @ 7? throws probably one of the prettiest balls in the league. He's also incredibly dangerous, IMO more so than RG3. He is also more durable than Robert so I put him ahead of RG3. His deep ball real nice. He will only get more dangerous.

8. Matty Melt- better passer statically than Flacco but also plays in a pass first offense. Has an average arm, but excells at intermediate range passes. He also has two pro bowl receivers and plays with the greatest TE of all time. Gonzo is a huge security blanket so lets see if he can still play well without him. Big negative is his amount of playoff wins, not all of them are his fault but this past post season wasn't all that impressive from Matty. Is this bias? hell yeah, Is it true? also a hell yes

9.RG3- probably the only player to be excited about in regard to the PG County football organization. Has incredible athleticism and is incredibly efficient with the football. Like I said before, his build combined with his play style scares me to death.

10. Luck- great passer and with a great head on his shoulders. He will only get better.
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[quote name='Cville&#045;Raven' timestamp='1361327986' post='1362676']
1. Rogers-dude throws darts....do I need any other reasoning
2. Peyton Manning-carried the Denver broncos coming off back surgery
3. Brees-makes all of the throws, but is a little bit too much of a gunslinger. Only player on the saints that is worth watching
4. Eli-2xSB champ, wreaks of clutchness, down year but with a better running game and healthy receivers I don't see why he couldn't get there a third time
5.Tom Brady-great passer statically, but is quite possibly the biggest system QB of our time; just my opinion, plays in the weakest division so wins aren't really that impressive. 3xSB champ so he belongs top 5
6.Ben-2xSB, was playing fantastic before the injury. That being said my list is more about the here and now and I think Ben's injuries are going to get the best of him.
7.Joe Flacco- hey oh he's at 7; hopefully with a coordinator that has brain cells he will excel statically and not just in the win column; showed it in the playoffs. He also wreaks of clutchness and throws lasers
8. Matty Melt- better passer statically than Flacco but also plays in a pass first offense. Has an average arm, but excells at intermediate range passes. He also has two pro bowl receivers and plays with the greatest TE of all time. Gonzo is a huge security blanket so lets see if he can still play well without him. Big negative is his amount of playoff wins, not all of them are his fault but this past post season wasn't all that impressive from Matty. Is this bias? hell yeah, Is it true? also a hell yes

9.Russell Wilson-throws probably one of the prettiest balls in the league. He's also incredibly dangerous, IMO more so than RG3. He is also more durable than Robert so I put him ahead of RG3. His deep ball real nice
10.RG3- probably the only player to be excited about in regard to the PG County football organization. Has incredible athleticism and is incredibly efficient with the football. Like I said before, his build combined with his play style scares me to death.
[/quote]2 things..
1. Graham is worth watching.
2. Joe isn't supposed to be included IIRC.
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[quote name='Miami Hurricane' timestamp='1361328747' post='1362694']
2 things..
1. Graham is worth watching.
2. Joe isn't supposed to be included IIRC.
[/quote]Graham is good but come on we know who keeps the Saints compettitive
I replace Joe with Wilson and Luck at 10
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[quote name='Cville&#045;Raven' timestamp='1361328848' post='1362695']
Graham is good but come on we know who keeps the Saints compettitive
I replace Joe with Wilson and Luck at 10
[/quote]I didn't say graham keeps em competitive just that he is worth watching.
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Even though Flacco isn't on the list I do believe at this moment in time he is the best QB in the league. With Jim Caldwell as the OC and him showing much better pocket awareness, I believe Joe's ceiling right now is sky high. That being said this list ranking will reflect who I think are the best QBs right now and how I think they will do next year by looking at last season.

2. [b]Peyton Manning[/b]: At this age he's still as good as he's ever been.
3.[b] Aaron Rodgers[/b]: Sure he had a bad offensive line this year, but he's still no doubt an elite QB.
4. [b]Drew Brees[/b]: With Sean Peyton back, the Saints will probably be in the playoff hunt again. Drew is still in the prime of his career.
5. [b]Robert Griffin III[/b]: This is gonna sound crazy, but I believe he is top 5. Before being injured he was very accurate, made great decisions. He's not only a mobile QB. He's crazy good.
6. [b]Tom Brady: [/b]Having Tom Brady this low is not meant as disrespect. Easy divison. Against really good defenses, he's had trouble. He looked rattled against the Ravens.
7. [b]Ben Roethlisberger[/b]: Before he got injured, he was having an MVP-type season. Terrible, make-shift offensive line. He's still a very good QB.
8. [b]Russell Wilson[/b]: He is very accurate for a 5' 10, mobile QB. Pocket awareness is really good and I believe he will have a monster 2013 season with all the talent on the Seahawks.
9. [b]Eli Manning[/b]: The reason I don't have him higher is I just don't believe him. 2 Super Bowl rings, yes. He couldn't get it done this year and I just feel like he is too inconsistent. I don't use the argument that Flacco is also inconsistent, because I believe that the issues had to do with Cam Cameron. Maybe there are things the Giants need to do for Eli to get back in the swing of things, but for now, I just don't believe him.
10. [b]Andrew Luck[/b]: A very good QB that has orchestrated a lot of late comebacks. Very strong and poised, he will be great for a very long time.
11.[b] Andy Dalton[/b]: I think he's been really underrated. He's one of the main reason the Bengals finally made it to the playoffs 2 seasons in a row. While really good now, his upside is huge. There will come a time where the Bengals will make it farther than one playoff game.
12. [b]Colin Kaepernick[/b]: I really like him. He has poise and accuracy, great running speed, but he needs to learn to command the huddle better. It's even been said that he only knows a certain amount of plays. With experience he will be much better.
13. [b]Matt Ryan[/b]: While very skilled, this is another QB I don't quite believe. At times he's very good, then put him under intense pressure and... *queue fart noise*.
14. [b]Alex Smith[/b]: It would be wrong of me to leave him off this list. He had a high completion percentage, but I feel he's still a bit average. He's done great things with the 49ers. If I'm a team without a QB, I'd love to have him.
15. [b]Matthew Stafford[/b]: I get the feeling I should put him higher, but I need to see another great season. Last season was unacceptable from a group that did so good the year before.
16. [b]Cam Newton[/b]: Cam would be much higher, if I didn't have character concerns. The Panthers need to finally have a good season and Cam needs to be more mature. There's not doubt he is an amazing athlete and QB.
17. [b]Matt Schaub[/b]: Yes the Texans had a great season, but I feel this is the case of a solid team having an average QB.
18. [b]Tony Romo[/b]: He is aging and still choking in very important games. Besides the choking, he is a very good QB. I just don't see him ever bringing the Cowboys to a Super Bowl.
19. [b]Philip Rivers[/b]: Once he would be in my top 5, but I've seen soooo much decline. Maybe with a new OC, he gets back in to the swing of things, but at this moment, he's nowhere near elite.
20. [b]Jay Cutler[/b]: Really good at times, but inconsistant. Last year was a disaster after the Bears imploded.
21. [b]Carson Palmer[/b]: I believe there's still some really good football left in him, but he's with the Raiders for God's sake. You can look at his fantasy numbers and how can the Raiders suck so bad.
22. [b]Ryan Tannehill[/b]: He's gotten better as the season progressed. If the Dolphins can pick up some weapons for him, I foresee a big improvement.
23. [b]Sam Bradford[/b]: He's really not a bad QB. If the Rams can get it together, he can lead them and put up some big numbers.
24. [b]Christian Ponder[/b]: I think Christian Ponder is another really underrated QB. Mainly because the Vikings have AP. In the beginning of the season, he made really good decisions. As the season progressed he declined a bit. Maybe it's because Percy Harvin got injured or maybe he lost focus, but I believe there is a really good QB waiting to come up. For a whole season, not just bits and pieces.
25. [b]Michael Vick[/b]: If the Eagles can get that offensive line together and he wins the starting position, I think he will have a great season again. Right now, he gets injured too much and doesn't make good decisions.
26. [b]Josh Freeman[/b]: I've seen flashes, but not enough to consider him a consistently good QB. I don't know how much more patience the Buccs have with him.
27. [b]Brandon Weeden[/b]: I actually don't think Weeden is as bad as people make him out to be. He has some upside, the only problem is, with him being almost 30, how long is it gonna take? Are the Browns willing to wait? He is very raw right now.
28. [b]Tim Tebow[/b]: I know, he didn't start last year, but I feel like a team will want him with the weak draft class. Yes, his passes can be sloppy and at times ugly, but he somehow knows how to make people around him better, (when he's actually starting) and more importantly, he knows how to win.
29. [b]Ryan Fitzpatrick[/b]: An average QB, the Bills have lost patience and will probably go after another QB.
30. [b]Kevin Kolb[/b]: Inconsistent. Health concerns. It's time for someone knew.
31. [b]Jake Locker[/b]: Maybe it's unfair to put him this low, but I need to see improvement.
32. [b]Blaine Gabbert[/b]: I know he's still really young. One of the youngest players in the league, and he might get better, but right now I don't see it.
33. [b]Matt Cassel[/b]: Not the answer in Kansas City.
34. [b]Mark Sanchez[/b]: Butt fumble.

I'm just one man, so I couldn't have paid attention to every QB's season thoroughly, so excuse me if my analysis is a bit off. This is just from my perspective.
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1. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Peyton Manning
4. Drew Brees
5. Ben Roethelisburger
6. Eli Manning
7. Joe Flacco
8. Matt Ryan
9. Tony Romo
10.Phillip Rivers
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