Breakout candidates for next season

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='awholelottahaloti' timestamp='1361055713' post='1359522']
Maybe not attractive, but someone would pick him up to fill a hole. Lord knows he 's big enough to fill a hole! LOL!


Let's hope for a turnaround. Stranger things have happened.
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The only holes Cody fills are donuts. He can't fill a hole here.

[Tank 92]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1361056652' post='1359530']
The only holes Cody fills are donuts. He can't fill a hole here.
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Well, that may be true and the point of the comment. Dude mentioned that Cody would be an unattractive free agent. I think someone would pick him up. With a crane!

[Dudeman]

[quote name='awholelottahaloti' timestamp='1361057409' post='1359536']
Well, that may be true and the point of the comment. Dude mentioned that Cody would be an unattractive free agent. I think someone would pick him up. With a crane!
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Haha touche!

Yeah I think a team would take a flyer on him because of his draft pedigree, and knowledge of our defensive system. But his best chance of success is for him to make it work here. I just don't see him surviving training camp, or pre-season and having to learn new surroundings/system anywhere else.

It's a shame too, again all the flack he gets because he seems like a good guy with a great sense of humor. Again if he can just get his strength, and his conditioning then who knows what he could become?

[Mt. Crushmore]

If Albert McClellan actually gets playing time, he has the potential to be a stud.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Mt. Crushmore' timestamp='1361061292' post='1359581']
If Albert McClellan actually gets playing time, he has the potential to be a stud.
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Where? ILB or OLB? He reminds me of JJ at OLB. That's not really a bad thing.

[Mt. Crushmore]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1361063597' post='1359590']
Where? ILB or OLB? He reminds me of JJ at OLB. That's not really a bad thing.
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He played great a ILB 2 years ago and OLB this season.

[K-Dog]

Pierce
Jimmy Smith
Upshaw and
Chykie Brown
are going to be the new super stars next season.

[Baltoravensrule]

[quote name='Trevelyan' timestamp='1360870019' post='1357754']
I see McAdoo coming on the scene in his first full healthy season and showing JJ Watt type potential with his 6'7, 245lbs frame. coming from the outside and disrupting passing lanes and using his long lanky upper body to grab QB's.
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I'm excited to see what McAdoo can do as well and I get that you are saying his length may help him to disrupt passing lanes but you do realize JJ Watt has 50lbs on the man while also being two inches shorter? Not the same animal. Watt has the stregth to come inside. McAdoo will probably never be able to disrupt the passing lanes as much since he won't be bullrushing as much but rather trying to speed rush around the end and therefore will be out of most passing lanes.

Still I'm excited to see what McAdoo might give us and really hope he comes in stronger.

[jdynamite]

J.Smith finally stop biting on double moves and becomes #2 CB.

C.Thompson will work his way into the lineup somehow. He will have more of a breakout year than Streeter/ Doss etc.

P.McPhee healthy and re-energized perhaps getting more snaps in pass rushing situations gets 8+ sacks.

Osemele - if he remains at LG I think he will get Pro Bowl consideration.

Art Jones builds on strong second half of season continues it next season as a run-stuffer and occasional sack. Contract year also so he makes huge impact

[RavensQB]

Streeter may be the big surprise. That would make the vertical threat really really scary!

[HoldingCall]

[quote name='RobFuseRaven' timestamp='1360840960' post='1357491']
With Paul Kruger most likely going somewhere else, I think Adrien Hamilton will surprise everyone. I have a feeling [b]Tommy Streeter will breakout too.[/b] Also, I think Jack Cornell gets the LT spot.
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Receivers, [u][i]Tommy Streeter,[/i][/u] needs a length of playing time before a break out occurs. Just wondering who's spot among present receivers will he get to sub for? Also wondering if he can block for runners coming his direction? At some point he has to get game time before these questions can be answered.

Unless he is a top draft pick out of college, the way a young receivers gets to play for an extended period of time is usually due to an injury to a starter.

[HoldingCall]

[quote name='Bazooka Joe' timestamp='1360873819' post='1357826']
I agree about Josh Bynes. Imagine the high he's riding with making the tackle to win the SB. Nigel Carr is another. The ILB position has changed so much. Ray Lewis changed how it's played from 1996-2012. but [b]with this passing league it's going to change even more.[/b]
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...and as teams adapt to defend the pass certain teams counter by improving run capabilities. Teams and coaches know this which is why the Ravens just hired the Run-Plays coordinator.

[poescrows]

Aside from those mentioned, I think under Caldwell's offense, Flacco will have a huge year. I know it sounds strange to say a SB MVP quarterback can have a "break-out" year, but I can see Joe possibly being amoung the top 3 QBs in the NFL (stat wise) and finally being called elite by the TV pundits.

[SecretAgentMan]

[quote name='poescrows' timestamp='1361116760' post='1359922']
Aside from those mentioned, I think under Caldwell's offense, Flacco will have a huge year. I know it sounds strange to say a SB MVP quarterback can have a "break-out" year, but I can see Joe possibly being amoung the top 3 QBs in the NFL (stat wise) and finally being called elite by the TV pundits.
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That's bold.... I mean really bold. When Manning retires, and Brady, will he be top 3? Yes. But by Default. I'd rather have him than Brees. Age, for the future. He's done more his first five years than most QBs could do in 8. One more ring earns Joe a spot in the HOF

[pep_meister]

Art Jones, Mchphee back and healthy better than ever, deonte thompson lights up the pre season AGAIN and moves ahead of tandon doss in the depth chart, i see more upside to deonte than tandon. give deonte an off season which doss has already had.... deonte will blossom into a superstar. I

[K-Dog]

Ray Lewis.

His gig with ESPN is going to be epic.

[Raven Hammer]

Joe Flacco: Thinking you can do something and doing it is two different things. Ozzie will take care of the talent around him and joe will take care the rest.

[Cville-Raven]

KO

[Purple_ICE 81]

[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1360820411' post='1357450']
Why not start the fun? Predictions for who the top breakout player will be...

My top three
1. Torrey finally learns to beat the double coverage, and seemingly becomes a game changing WR. A WR that could make a QB, but with a QB that could make him as well..... Becomes Flaccos favorite WR

2. Jimmy Smith becomes the shutdown CB we all thought he would become.... Bmore will be a no fly zone. He stepped up in the playoffs big time.

3. Ed Dickson breaks out in a big way... Explodes onto the seen.

And for the bonus

4. Pierce... I'll say it.. He will be a starter by the end of next year... BUT, Rice will still get more snaps.

5. Upshaw emerges in a big way as well

6. Ellerbe is retained and becomes a premier LB
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too many Bold predictions.

[RobFuseRaven]

[quote name='HoldingCall' timestamp='1361114698' post='1359910']
Receivers, [u][i]Tommy Streeter,[/i][/u] needs a length of playing time before a break out occurs. Just wondering who's spot among present receivers will he get to sub for? Also wondering if he can block for runners coming his direction? At some point he has to get game time before these questions can be answered.

Unless he is a top draft pick out of college, the way a young receivers gets to play for an extended period of time is usually due to an injury to a starter.
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If somehow Boldin is cut, which I don't want him to be, because I'd rather have his contract extended, then I think he'll show a lot of improvement. It doesn't matter where you are drafted or if you are undrafted. If you breakout, then you breakout. They could also use him on fade routes if his hands improve.

[kassaiscool]

A real sleeper could be David Reed. He has good speed and size.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='kassaiscool' timestamp='1361146104' post='1360293']
A real sleeper could be David Reed. He has good speed and size.
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First and foremost, D. Reed has to stay healthy. I he actually finished the season strong for a change. It'll be interesting to see what type of shot he gets in OTAs and TC this year. As you said he has good size and speed, but his balance and strength is probably his best assets.

People in Baltimore are feed up with him and foolishly think Harbs keeps him around for some other reason then talent, but the guy does have a good potential, he just has to show and prove. I'm thinking the combination of Harbs and Caldwell will really drive competition into these guy and the young guys will get many more chances with Caldwell running the show instead of Cam.

I'm sure his 3 fumbles in 2011 will lead people to think this is a crazy statement but Reed has really strong hands and a wide catch radius. He could be a really strong slot WR especially with Torrey Smith pulling coverage over the top, his rac potential would be big.

I could definitely see him as a sleeper, he and Thompson played well together in the Bengals game and probably would have had a bigger impact if it were Flacco at QB. Passing camps, OTAs, Training camp, preseason and the overall competition at WR should be fun.

[LordRavens]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1361150919' post='1360423']
First and foremost, D. Reed has to stay healthy. I he actually finished the season strong for a change. It'll be interesting to see what type of shot he gets in OTAs and TC this year. As you said he has good size and speed, but his balance and strength is probably his best assets.

People in Baltimore are feed up with him and foolishly think Harbs keeps him around for some other reason then talent, but the guy does have a good potential, he just has to show and prove. I'm thinking the combination of Harbs and Caldwell will really drive competition into these guy and the young guys will get many more chances with Caldwell running the show instead of Cam.

I'm sure his 3 fumbles in 2011 will lead people to think this is a crazy statement but Reed has really strong hands and a wide catch radius. He could be a really strong slot WR especially with Torrey Smith pulling coverage over the top, his rac potential would be big.

I could definitely see him as a sleeper, he and Thompson played well together in the Bengals game and probably would have had a bigger impact if it were Flacco at QB. Passing camps, OTAs, Training camp, preseason and the overall competition at WR should be fun.
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I Agree!

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1361150919' post='1360423']
First and foremost, D. Reed has to stay healthy. I he actually finished the season strong for a change. It'll be interesting to see what type of shot he gets in OTAs and TC this year. As you said he has good size and speed, but his balance and strength is probably his best assets.

People in Baltimore are feed up with him and foolishly think Harbs keeps him around for some other reason then talent, but the guy does have a good potential, he just has to show and prove. I'm thinking the combination of Harbs and Caldwell will really drive competition into these guy and the young guys will get many more chances with Caldwell running the show instead of Cam.

I'm sure his 3 fumbles in 2011 will lead people to think this is a crazy statement but Reed has really strong hands and a wide catch radius. He could be a really strong slot WR especially with Torrey Smith pulling coverage over the top, his rac potential would be big.

I could definitely see him as a sleeper, he and Thompson played well together in the Bengals game and probably would have had a bigger impact if it were Flacco at QB. Passing camps, OTAs, Training camp, preseason and the overall competition at WR should be fun.
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Yes, yes. I agree with everything you said. The only thing I want to add is this:

Reed's an RFA. I would try to not tender him and attempt to sign him for a cheap vet minimum deal. I think the tag is 1.23M or something, and that's a little high for what he's done so far TBH. I think we have a good chance at re-signing him due to the questions surrounding him.

[wademan2636]

[quote name='dirtybird10' timestamp='1360858880' post='1357639']

I hope but unless you strap a cheeseburger to the opposing quarter back, I don't see Cody doing much of anything in the trenches.
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i was in the middle of class when i read that, and i bursted out laughing. so true.

[Ravensfan23]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1361206408' post='1361010']

Yes, yes. I agree with everything you said. The only thing I want to add is this:

Reed's an RFA. I would try to not tender him and attempt to sign him for a cheap vet minimum deal. I think the tag is 1.23M or something, and that's a little high for what he's done so far TBH. I think we have a good chance at re-signing him due to the questions surrounding him.
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Yea definitely. I think that's exactly what will happen. The Ravens don't run a big risk letting him hit the market and bringing him back. This is one of the few times when the team has all the leverage. If Reed was coming off the type of kick return season he had in 2010 and maybe even 2011, there might be a small market for him and he might be willing to walk for more opportunity.

However he doesn't have a market imo, and actually the fact that he's gotten more opportunity in Caldwell's brief time here then ever with Cam, he might be feeling like this is the last opportunity to truly make a impact in the NFL and what better place to do it then with a offense you know and a HC who has praised you plenty of times on your work ethic.

I would love to see Doss, Reed, Streeter, LQW and Thompson all really be put to the test this offseason and preseason. Let those guys get plenty of opportunities with Joe and the first team. Don't just label Doss the replacement to Q or the #2WR of the future, make him earn it.

I remember a couple of years ago, I heard a report that Tomlin made Brown and Sanders compete daily for the opportunity to be the #3WR each Sunday. I would love Caldwell to make these guy compete for everything this offseason. The Ravens have been wasting drafted talent at WR for a long time. While I love the addition of Q and JJ, it's time for these younger guys to get a legit shot, because someone like DT might be a huge player for the Ravens in a few year, but might not fit someone else's system. However if you allow him to walk because you keep adding older vet, you'll never know.

Flacco has proven he makes the players around him better, he doesn't need security blankets in the form of vets pass their prime anymore. Allow him to mold these young guys into what he wants with this offense

[dirtybird10]

[quote name='wademan2636' timestamp='1361209999' post='1361068']
i was in the middle of class when i read that, and i bursted out laughing. so true.
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LOL its a shame he can't do some kind of waterboy type thing where he could just look at a QB or Running back and see a giant happymeal. Oh well!

[RavensAllTheWay]

I don't dislike D. Reed, but he's definitely replaceable. Our ST did a decent job before he came off the PUP list and was activated again, and Jacoby has solidified himself as the returner here. Not trying to say he caused our ST blunders in the postseason because he certainly didn't, but I'm just saying, they did OK without him, and we already have 8 WRs here.

I'd say not including the top 3, Doss, Streeter and possibly Thompson are all probably better than Reed right now. There's just no room for him here, and it has nothing to do with the Seattle game.

[dirtybird10]

[quote name='RavensAllTheWay' timestamp='1361222335' post='1361394']
I don't dislike D. Reed, but he's definitely replaceable. Our ST did a decent job before he came off the PUP list and was activated again, and Jacoby has solidified himself as the returner here. Not trying to say he caused our ST blunders in the postseason because he certainly didn't, but I'm just saying, they did OK without him, and we already have 8 WRs here.

I'd say not including the top 3, Doss, Streeter and possibly Thompson are all probably better than Reed right now. There's just no room for him here, and it has nothing to do with the Seattle game.
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I agree, he's never really produced besides on special teams some and we have had him for what 3-4 years now? Its time to let him go and let some other talent get their chance on the active roster.

[jimmypowder]

Terrence Cody!!! LOL. You heard it hear first.