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Jason LaCanfora: Ravens to let Williams, Kruger walk; attempt to Re-sign Flacco, Reed, Elerbe

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[quote]The [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/superbowl"]Super Bowl[/url] participants, the [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/BAL/baltimore-ravens"]Ravens[/url] and [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/SF/san-francisco-49ers"]49ers[/url] are pretty flush against the cap. Baltimore is likely to let free agents [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1245656/paul-kruger"]Paul Kruger[/url] and [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/423706/cary-williams"]Cary Williams[/url] walk, sources said, while focusing on new deals for quarterback [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1250697/joe-flacco"]Joe Flacco[/url], linebacker [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/518503/dannell-ellerbe"]Dannell Ellerbe[/url] and safety [url="http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/302218/ed-reed"]Ed Reed[/url] (signing all three, however, may not be possible).[/quote]

Not overly surprising, but seems news worthy from a very connected source.
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I think that's been the overall consensus on here. No surprises. I do hope we can make Reed a Raven for life at a reasonable price. He's one of those players you would hate to see in another uniform. Reed is a Raven!
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I was hoping we would be able to come to some fair deal to keep Kruger but I understand why we have to let him go. Though at this point, it would seem keeping Kruger, Ellerbe and Joe would be priority while letting Ed test the market and then offer him a fair deal to come back.
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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1360722700' post='1356141']
I was hoping we would be able to come to some[b] fair deal to keep Kruger[/b] but I understand why we have to let him go. Though at this point, it would seem keeping Kruger, Ellerbe and Joe would be priority while letting Ed test the market and then offer him a fair deal to come back.
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Like someone said in the draft forum, we could always draft Joe Kruger. Replace a Kruger w/ a Kruger.
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Williams is a luxury on a team that has Webb, Smith, Graham and Brown. No issue letting him walk.

Seeing Kruger go will hurt, but he's going to get paid $8,000,000+ a season, and there's no way we should be paying him that, especially with Upshaw having come off a good rookie season as our top pick from a year ago.

If we could keep the other 3, I'd be pretty content with the off-season; especially if that meant minimal restructuring/cuts.
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Hate to say it, but Kruger walks and he's the next Bart Scott. Played well for us and will be NOTHING for whoever he plays for next.
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1360723074' post='1356149']
Hate to say it, but Kruger walks and he's the next Bart Scott. Played well for us and will be NOTHING for whoever he plays for next.
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And I will be LMAO while it happens :P
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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1360722700' post='1356141']
I was hoping we would be able to come to some fair deal to keep Kruger but I understand why we have to let him go. Though at this point, it would seem keeping Kruger, Ellerbe and Joe would be priority while letting Ed test the market and then offer him a fair deal to come back.
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I think Ozzie wants ed a life long raven.
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1360723074' post='1356149']
Hate to say it, but Kruger walks and he's the next Bart Scott. Played well for us and will be NOTHING for whoever he plays for next.
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Depends how they use him and what DT he's playing next to. If a team expects him to be a 3 down LB they're going to be disappointed unless they have a very disruptive DT beside him that can take pressure off Kruger holding the edge well.

It will be interesting to see if Kruger picks a 34 or 43 defense to play in though. He may excel in a 43 as a LDE.

Having said all that this is far and above the correct personnel moves to make if you're Ozzie. Whether he can pull it off is another thing. We may get a fat comp pick from Kruger next year too if you need a silver lining to losing an impact pass rusher.
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1360723074' post='1356149']
Hate to say it, but Kruger walks and he's the next Bart Scott. Played well for us and will be NOTHING for whoever he plays for next.
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I hope not. I spoke with kruger at Alfonzo's with cold spring lane. Good guy, wish him success.
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1360723074' post='1356149']
Hate to say it, but Kruger walks and he's the next Bart Scott. Played well for us and will be NOTHING for whoever he plays for next.
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I dont necessarily agree with this. Kruger is a very good pass-rusher. If he is on a team that already has a good DE/OLB I think he can be just as good if not better. Tennessee, Cleveland, Cincinatti, Atlanta and Seattle are all teams I could see pursuing him.
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I think it was Mortensen who said today that in watching tape, the members of the Ravens said after watching film, that despite the injuries defenses still slid protect to Suggs and allow Kruger to go 1on1 and they'd let Kruger hit the market.

I was hoping Kruger could be retained as I like to see homegrown guys develop into studs and the Ravens have been searching for a pass rusher opposite Suggs for a while.

However when you start looking at the situation, you can understand why the Ravens wouldn't put big money into Kruger. If Suggs and Ngata are pulling most of the attention from the oline, you expect guys like Art, Mcphee and Upshaw to step their game up and produce. Also young guys like Hamilton and McAdoo could be situational rushers as well.

Then you consider that blitzing playyed a major role in the pressures and Pees became much better at scheming up packages late in the season. I think the Ravens are taking the approach that they gotta get back to being stout against the run and they'll be able to manufactuer enough pass rush opposite Suggs to get off the field in key moments.
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happy to hear of an attempt........ try and get it done you Wizard you. after hearing no word , its a good report but still nerve racking for us fans sitting here waiting. each player bring to the table their own unique set to propel/ maintain the steady flow of progression moving forward. although we can not resign all of them, resigning the guys reported would be a plus for us without a doubt. Cary is good, but there's baggage with the guy, for me It was up and down play all season , getting burned on more than a couple plays In which he should have had down as routine... Kruger, I'd love to keep him but he's simply asking for too much money ... plain and simple.... OZ does a great job at drafting and judging by the younger guys, im sure he'll find Kruger's replacement in OTA's / training camp.
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[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1360724012' post='1356165']
I dont necessarily agree with this. Kruger is a very good pass-rusher. If he is on a team that already has a good DE/OLB I think he can be just as good if not better. Tennessee, Cleveland, Cincinatti, Atlanta and Seattle are all teams I could see pursuing him.
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I can see Tennessee pursuing him, too.

Also, I kind of figured this would be the case. I think a lot of people have, though some keep saying to keep Kruger, Williams, etc. It's just not happening. Reed & Ellerbe will probably be cheaper than Kruger & Williams. It's just the fact of the matter.
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[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1360724390' post='1356171']
I can see Tennessee pursuing him, too.
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I think Kruger is more of a OLB than a DE.
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[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1360724436' post='1356173']
I think Kruger is more of a OLB than a DE.
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See, I see quite the opposite. I see Kruger as a better and more efficient DE than OLB.
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[quote name='izvoodoo' timestamp='1360724436' post='1356173']
I think Kruger is more of a OLB than a DE.
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He has the size to play DE easily. 6'4, 265, and it's not like he is all that great in dropping into coverage. DE would allow him to do what he does best, get after the QB.
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Joe (a given), Ellerbe and Ed were the players I'd say most of us expected the team to focus on. We've seen the FO pull wonders before but keeping all three of them would arguably be their greatest achievement.
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The thing I picked up from watching Kruger is that you can be a dominant pass rusher even as an average athlete, if Upshaw works on his hands theres no reason why he can't be as disruptive.
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[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1360724012' post='1356165']


I dont necessarily agree with this. Kruger is a very good pass-rusher. If he is on a team that already has a good DE/OLB I think he can be just as good if not better. Tennessee, Cleveland, Cincinatti, Atlanta and Seattle are all teams I could see pursuing him.
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I could see him having success with GB. Moving him and Clay around to create matchups would be good for him. I wish we could keep him. Somebody's gonna get a hard working class act.

I though Kruger leading the 7 Nation Army Chant after a sack could have really taken off.
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[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1360724995' post='1356193']
I could see him having success with GB. Moving him and Clay around to create matchups would be good for him. I wish we could keep him. Somebody's gonna get a hard working class act.

I though Kruger leading the 7 Nation Army Chant after a sack could have really taken off.
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They just drafted Nick Perry though to play OLB. I dont think they want to sign any FA to big a deal with Rodgers' new contract looming.
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[quote name='Mr. Irrelevant' timestamp='1360725503' post='1356221']
What about Mckinnie, he is one of my playoff MVPs
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I thought we gave him a two year deal. Dunno though.
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If we can resign those three before the draft I will be very happy. As far as Kruger and Williams, while I will be sad to see them go, I think the talent to replace Williams is already on the roster and the depth of the draft will allow us to find a replacement for Kruger.
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[quote name='1/28/01' timestamp='1360723074' post='1356149']
Hate to say it, but Kruger walks and he's the next Bart Scott. Played well for us and will be NOTHING for whoever he plays for next.
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Antwan Barnes. He was pretty effective after he left us and I feel Kruger will be more productive. At the same time I think Upshaw develops well.
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Is everybody a bit tired that majority of our players under rookie contract only shows up @ their last year?

Seems to be a pattern.
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