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Joe Flacco's Progression (Rookie Year Through 2012)

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Please note, the stats do include post-season performances for each year.
The red is his career worst season in that category, the green is his career best season in that category.
The X Axis of each graph represents the season of his career (e.g. 1 = Rookie Season / 2008, 2 = 2nd Second Season / 2009, etc.)

2008 (19 Games):
Total: 290/503, 3408 Yards, 15 TD, 15 INT = [i][color=#ff0000]75.9 QB Rating[/color][/i]
[i][color=#ff0000]179.4 Y/G[/color][/i], 57.7%, 6.78 Y/A, [i][color=#ff0000]33.5 A/TD[/color][/i], [i][color=#ff0000]33.5 A/INT[/color][/i]

2009 (18 Games):
Total: 339/544, 3836 Yards, 21 TD, 15 INT = 84.8 QB Rating
213.1 Y/G, 62.3%, 7.05 Y/A, 25.9 A/TD, 36.3 A/INT

2010 (18 Games):
Total: 347/553, 4012 Yards, 28 TD, 11 INT = 93.2 QB Rating
222.9 Y/G, [b][color=#006400]62.7%[/color][/b], 7.25 Y/A, [b][color=#006400]19.8 A/TD[/color][/b], 50.3 A/INT

2011 (18 Games):
Total: 348/605, 4092 Yards, 24 TD, 13 INT = 82.5 QB Rating
227.3 Y/G, [i][color=#ff0000]57.5%[/color][/i], [i][color=#ff0000]6.76 Y/A[/color][/i], 25.2 A/TD, 46.5 A/INT

2012 (20 Games):
Total: 390/657, 4957 Yards, 33 TD, 10 INT = [color=#006400][b]93.4 QB Rating[/b][/color]
[b][color=#006400]247.9 Y/G[/color][/b], 59.4%, [b][color=#006400]7.54 Y/A[/color][/b], 19.9 A/TD, [b][color=#006400]65.7 A/INT[/color][/b]

[u][b]Passer Rating[/b][/u]

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[u][b]Yards Per Game[/b][/u]

[u][b][img]http://i47.tinypic.com/6qi7nm.png[/img][/b][/u]

[u][b]Completion Percentage[/b][/u]

[u][b][img]http://i46.tinypic.com/mbgy8k.png[/img][/b][/u]
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(graphs continued)

[u][b]Yards Per Attempt[/b][/u]

[u][b][img]http://i47.tinypic.com/w0kuaa.png[/img][/b][/u]

[u][b]Attempts Between Touchdowns[/b][/u]

[u][b][img]http://i48.tinypic.com/28ahyqo.png[/img][/b][/u]

[u][b]Attempts Between Interceptions[/b][/u]

[u][b][img]http://i46.tinypic.com/15e8znt.png[/img][/b][/u]
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Beast. Makes it fairly clear that Joe has been on an outstanding trajectory and, since he is just now entering his prime, it stands to reason that next year should be a truly ridiculous offensive year for Flacco... and since he already won a ring we get to sit back and watch stress-free :-). I hope fans aren't taking this kid (and this head coach) for granted, we could look back on this coming 5-year segment of Ravens history (including this past one) as the true glory days of the franchise.
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He had very steady improvement every year for his first 3 seasons, and then took a dive in 2011 (perhaps due to effects from the lockout?), and then this year basically picking up where he left off with his progression at the end of 2010.
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In 2011 he had no QB Coach because Cam wanted to handle the job. I think you can see why he had a coach again in 2012.
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Week 14: "He has no pocket awareness. He just stands like a statue." [color=#800080]Avoids sacks, makes incredible outside-the-pocket plays.[/color]
Week 15: "He throws too many interceptions". [color=#800080]Throws 0 in postseason.[/color]
Week 18: "All he does is throw deep to Boldin." [color=#800080]Throws 50+ yard TDs to Torrey and Jacoby.[/color]
Week 19: "All he does is throw deep. He has no midrange game."[color=#800080] Puts up huge numbers without deep ball due to high winds.[/color]

And from back when...
2009/2010: "All he does is dump off to Ray Rice."[color=#800080] Becomes best deep ball passer in the game.[/color]
2011 opening night: "Hey Joe, see those back shoulder throws? Can we do that?" [color=#800080]Becomes master of the back shoulder throw.[/color]
2011: "He'll never win a Super Bowl". [color=#800080]Wins the Super Bowl.[/color]

Yeah I think he's improved just fine.
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[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1360700056' post='1355705']
In 2011 he had no QB Coach because Cam wanted to handle the job. I think you can see why he had a coach again in 2012.
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We had a lot of turnover that year. The only common player was boldin.
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Great representation of the data! Linear progression probably has a low r and high p value, but the logarithmic interpretations really give a great prediction of what's to come as he reaches the prime of his career.

Guys - what do you think about the completion percentage? I'm not liking these mid 50s and low 60s. But does it matter in our offensive game plan with many deep attempts (which are low percentage anyway)? It's like comparing 3-pt percentage to FG percentage in basketball for me.
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[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1360700056' post='1355705']
In 2011 he had no QB Coach because Cam wanted to handle the job. I think you can see why he had a coach again in 2012.
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Ooh thanks! This is a very interesting point that I didn't consider. Abnormal off-season due to the lockout and his only season without a QB coach, and that makes it pretty darn clear why 2011 is the anomaly there.
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[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1360700274' post='1355708']
Week 14: "He has no pocket awareness. He just stands like a statue." [color=#800080]Avoids sacks, makes incredible outside-the-pocket plays.[/color]
Week 15: "He throws too many interceptions". [color=#800080]Throws 0 in postseason.[/color]
Week 18: "All he does is throw deep to Boldin." [color=#800080]Throws 50+ yard TDs to Torrey and Jacoby.[/color]
Week 19: "All he does is throw deep. He has no midrange game."[color=#800080] Puts up huge numbers without deep ball due to high winds.[/color]

And from back when...
2009/2010: "All he does is dump off to Ray Rice."[color=#800080] Becomes best deep ball passer in the game.[/color]
2011 opening night: "Hey Joe, see those back shoulder throws? Can we do that?" [color=#800080]Becomes master of the back shoulder throw.[/color]
2011: "He'll never win a Super Bowl". [color=#800080]Wins the Super Bowl.[/color]

Yeah I think he's improved just fine.
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yes +1
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Shouldn't 2011 show 19 games as well? We went to the AFC Championship game last year but in 09 and 10 lost in the divisional round.
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Shout out to Joe Flacco!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151304061381229&set=a.429037126228.204507.92774416228&type=1&theater
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[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1360700056' post='1355705']
In 2011 he had no QB Coach because Cam wanted to handle the job. I think you can see why he had a coach again in 2012.
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and playcallings; changing the person behind the scene equals to MVP SB winner........

PS: This year I think Caldwell can handle 2 jobs: OC and QB coach.
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[quote name='dirtybird10' timestamp='1360703020' post='1355766']
Shouldn't 2011 show 19 games as well? We went to the AFC Championship game last year but in 09 and 10 lost in the divisional round.
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We had the bye, though

I'm in awe of these stats, dude. 2011 was rough but as Mod 3 pointed out - no QB coach. Also, he had basically all new receivers and a marked change in the offense with more downfield shots.
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[quote name='dirtybird10' timestamp='1360703020' post='1355766']
Shouldn't 2011 show 19 games as well? We went to the AFC Championship game last year but in 09 and 10 lost in the divisional round.
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No it is correct at 18. We had a bye week in 2011 but had to play in the Wild Card round in '09 and '10 so even though we went one round further in '11 it was the same number of games.
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[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1360703114' post='1355773']
Shout out to Joe Flacco!

[url="https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151304061381229&set=a.429037126228.204507.92774416228&type=1&theater"]https://www.facebook...&type=1[/url]
[/quote]Tommy Hilfiger>Uggs :P
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[quote name='callahan09' timestamp='1360703331' post='1355777']
No it is correct at 18. We had a bye week in 2011 but had to play in the Wild Card round in '09 and '10 so even though we went one round further in '11 it was the same number of games.
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your absolutely right! Forgot about that. Thanks!
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[quote name='berad' timestamp='1360703310' post='1355776']
We had the bye, though

I'm in awe of these stats, dude. 2011 was rough but as Mod 3 pointed out - no QB coach. Also, he had basically all new receivers and a marked change in the offense with more downfield shots.
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Yup just realized that. Thank you!
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[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1360700056' post='1355705']
In 2011 he had no QB Coach because Cam wanted to handle the job. I think you can see why he had a coach again in 2012.
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That. The loss of hue jackson and was felt
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[quote name='Moderator 3' timestamp='1360700056' post='1355705']
In 2011 he had no QB Coach because Cam wanted to handle the job. I think you can see why he had a coach again in 2012.
[/quote]

It also shows how much a coach, that Joe feels comfortable with can do for his performance. The 2010 season under Jim Zorn, whom Joe clearly liked ranks among his best. Considering Caldwells laid back almost "dull" personality (wink wink), Joe's playoff performance doesn't seem so surprising.
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[quote name='hawkprey' timestamp='1360700274' post='1355708']
Week 14: "He has no pocket awareness. He just stands like a statue." [color=#800080]Avoids sacks, makes incredible outside-the-pocket plays.[/color]
Week 15: "He throws too many interceptions". [color=#800080]Throws 0 in postseason.[/color]
Week 18: "All he does is throw deep to Boldin." [color=#800080]Throws 50+ yard TDs to Torrey and Jacoby.[/color]
Week 19: "All he does is throw deep. He has no midrange game."[color=#800080] Puts up huge numbers without deep ball due to high winds.[/color]

And from back when...
2009/2010: "All he does is dump off to Ray Rice."[color=#800080] Becomes best deep ball passer in the game.[/color]
2011 opening night: "Hey Joe, see those back shoulder throws? Can we do that?" [color=#800080]Becomes master of the back shoulder throw.[/color]
2011: "He'll never win a Super Bowl". [color=#800080]Wins the Super Bowl.[/color]

Yeah I think he's improved just fine.
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It's funny cause it's like he played bad to get Cam fired then instantly played better when he was gone. I was one of thos saying he waits too long long in the pocket playing the role of gargoyle. Then, even though they lost, you noticed a difference in the Denver game and started to see where they were heading against NY. I don't know what Cam told him, but it looked like he forgot that crap quickly and took on what Caldwell was saying. I don't think anyone said he threw too many picks, it was when and to who. Most of his picks seem to be easily avoidable, throws right into linebackers hands. My problem was the fumbling. In my defense, though I did get fed up, I don't remember the thread I said we would see improvement when there was a new OC, just didn't think the advancement would be that rapid. This offense should be scary good next year. One thing I did always realize was when Joe was in a 2 minute drill, you could always tell he was more comfortable, cause he was in control.
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[quote name='redrum52' timestamp='1360709263' post='1355888']
It's funny cause it's like he played bad to get Cam fired then instantly played better when he was gone. I was one of thos saying he waits too long long in the pocket playing the role of gargoyle. Then, even though they lost, you noticed a difference in the Denver game and started to see where they were heading against NY. I don't know what Cam told him, but it looked like he forgot that crap quickly and took on what Caldwell was saying. I don't think anyone said he threw too many picks, it was when and to who. Most of his picks seem to be easily avoidable, throws right into linebackers hands. My problem was the fumbling. In my defense, though I did get fed up, I don't remember the thread I said we would see improvement when there was a new OC, just didn't think the advancement would be that rapid. This offense should be scary good next year. One thing I did always realize was when Joe was in a 2 minute drill, you could always tell he was more comfortable, cause he was in control.
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The most noticeable place you saw it was in his footwork. Did you notice he has started to tip toe in the pocket like Peyton does? I noticed it first in the Colts game. On top of that he's where more athletic than Peyton ever was so with a full offseason installing Caldwell's system (which will be built and tailored specifically for Joe) I think next year could be something to behold. Don't want to get too far ahead of myself because a lot of it is going to have to do with the O-line but man... the possibilities...
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[quote name='beasy2487' timestamp='1360712360' post='1355946']
The most noticeable place you saw it was in his footwork. Did you notice he has started to tip toe in the pocket like Peyton does? I noticed it first in the Colts game. On top of that he's where more athletic than Peyton ever was so with a full offseason installing [b]Caldwell's system (which will be built and tailored specifically for Joe) I think next year could be something to behold. Don't want to get too far ahead of myself because a lot of it is going to have to do with the O-line but man... the possibilities...[/b]
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I agree I have a tremendous amount of confidence in the pair
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The first couple of years of his career, he was just fine in the regular season, but rarely played well in the big games, and lost constantly to guys like Brady, Ben and Peyton. The last two years (4 and 5), it's been somewhat of the opposite. His wild inconsistency in the regular season was alarming, but he really picked it up and started winning the big games that he would've probably lost a year of two before. He's started to build a reputation of a big game QB, when a couple years ago, many people had already jumped to the conclusion that he wasn't and never would be.
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[quote name='redrum52' timestamp='1360709263' post='1355888']
It's funny cause it's like he played bad to get Cam fired then instantly played better when he was gone. I was one of thos saying he waits too long long in the pocket playing the role of gargoyle. Then, even though they lost, you noticed a difference in the Denver game and started to see where they were heading against NY. I don't know what Cam told him, but it looked like he forgot that crap quickly and took on what Caldwell was saying. I don't think anyone said he threw too many picks, it was when and to who. Most of his picks seem to be easily avoidable, throws right into linebackers hands. My problem was the fumbling. In my defense, though I did get fed up, I don't remember the thread I said we would see improvement when there was a new OC, just didn't think the advancement would be that rapid. This offense should be scary good next year. [u][b]One thing I did always realize was when Joe was in a 2 minute drill, you could always tell he was more comfortable, cause he was in control.[/b][/u]
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I would agree. Since 2010, Flacco has played pretty well in the two minute drill. In the last 2 minutes of either half, when trailing by between 1 and 7 points:

42/76, 568 Yards, 7 TD, 1 INT = 104.5 QB Rating

This year was even better than that average:

13/22, 250 Yards, 3 TD, 0 INT = 138.3 QB Rating

Oh, and by the way, that's the 3rd best passer rating in such situations in the NFL this year... I was shocked to see who the first two names were. The top 3:

Blaine Gabbert: 5/7, 156 Yards, 2 TD, 0 INT = 153.3 QB Rating
Carson Palmer: 21/29, 309 Yards, 3 TD, 0 INT = 141.3 QB Rating
Joe Flacco: 13/22, 250 Yards, 3 TD, 0 INT = 138.3 QB Rating

Seriously? Did anybody expect that? Hahaha.

Not that anybody is comparing Flacco to Mark Sanchez anymore, but we used to see those comparisons more often than was ever remotely fair. Just for fun, Mark Sanchez had a 12.8 QB Rating in those 2-minute drill situations this season (3rd worst, ahead of Ryan Tannehill and Matt Leinart).

Oh, and Colin Kaepernick? He had a 27.8 passer rating in 11 attempts (5/11, 68 Yards, 0 TD, 1 INT).

And hey, looking again at the Since 2010 numbers, he has the third highest passer rating in the two minute drill out of everyone with over 20 attempts in that span (a sample of 43 players)!

The top 3:

Tom Brady: 48/74, 584 Yards, 6 TD, 1 INT = 110.4 QB Rating
Jay Cutler: 29/41, 348 Yards, 4 TD, 2 INT = 108.6 QB Rating
Joe Flacco: 42/76, 568 Yards, 7 TD, 1 INT = 104.5 QB Rating

And be honest with me here... does either one of those stat lines look preferable to you over Flacco's? This is where completion percentage's weight in the passer rating formula seems over valued (and I'd argue that interception rate is under-valued in the formula) as I've discussed in another thread here recently.

Ben Roethlisberger, who is someone I've always been afraid of giving the ball to with a couple minutes left and the game on the line, has actually been pretty crappy since 2010:

39/78, 592 Yards, 3 TD, 2 INT = 77.5 QB Rating

There's some other surprises in there, too. I'm just happy with how well Joe plays with the game on the line!
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My pops said it best.

We have one of the greatest young QBs ever.

He has the chance to be an all time great. With Cameron out of the picture, Flacco might become unstoppable. That offense runs through HIM
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[quote name='callahan09' timestamp='1360715175' post='1355995']
I would agree. Since 2010, Flacco has played pretty well in the two minute drill. In the last 2 minutes of either half, when trailing by between 1 and 7 points:

42/76, 568 Yards, 7 TD, 1 INT = 104.5 QB Rating

This year was even better than that average:

13/22, 250 Yards, 3 TD, 0 INT = 138.3 QB Rating

Oh, and by the way, that's the 3rd best passer rating in such situations in the NFL this year... I was shocked to see who the first two names were. The top 3:

Blaine Gabbert: 5/7, 156 Yards, 2 TD, 0 INT = 153.3 QB Rating
Carson Palmer: 21/29, 309 Yards, 3 TD, 0 INT = 141.3 QB Rating
Joe Flacco: 13/22, 250 Yards, 3 TD, 0 INT = 138.3 QB Rating

Seriously? Did anybody expect that? Hahaha.

Not that anybody is comparing Flacco to Mark Sanchez anymore, but we used to see those comparisons more often than was ever remotely fair. Just for fun, Mark Sanchez had a 12.8 QB Rating in those 2-minute drill situations this season (3rd worst, ahead of Ryan Tannehill and Matt Leinart).

Oh, and Colin Kaepernick? He had a 27.8 passer rating in 11 attempts (5/11, 68 Yards, 0 TD, 1 INT).

And hey, looking again at the Since 2010 numbers, he has the third highest passer rating in the two minute drill out of everyone with over 20 attempts in that span (a sample of 43 players)!

The top 3:

Tom Brady: 48/74, 584 Yards, 6 TD, 1 INT = 110.4 QB Rating
Jay Cutler: 29/41, 348 Yards, 4 TD, 2 INT = 108.6 QB Rating
Joe Flacco: 42/76, 568 Yards, 7 TD, 1 INT = 104.5 QB Rating

And be honest with me here... does either one of those stat lines look preferable to you over Flacco's? This is where completion percentage's weight in the passer rating formula seems over valued (and I'd argue that interception rate is under-valued in the formula) as I've discussed in another thread here recently.

Ben Roethlisberger, who is someone I've always been afraid of giving the ball to with a couple minutes left and the game on the line, has actually been pretty crappy since 2010:

39/78, 592 Yards, 3 TD, 2 INT = 77.5 QB Rating

There's some other surprises in there, too. I'm just happy with how well Joe plays with the game on the line!
[/quote] I think last year Joe said how he thought our 2 minute offense was really good and I remember thinking "You know what? He's right. As if the away Steelers game wasn't a hint enough.

Joe is absolutely one of the best in the game sans Cam Cameron. It'll just take some more time for the rest of the league to digest it. Once they get over it they'll move on to the next questionable QBs.
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Flacco has always been good with not giving the ball to the other team. I actually think he'll be even better this year. Don't wanna seems like i'm beating up on Cam, but I feel most of Flacco's turnover issues can be traced back to Cam. Often times Flacco's INTs come because he has to throw into tight windows. Well under Caldwell there is plenty of space in the offense and Flacco gets to show off his accuracy.

Also his fumbles come from holding the ball and waiting for routes to develop. Under Caldwell you dont see that, the offense is much quicker.

I have Flacco taking off next year, the Super Bowl run was just the tip of the iceberg. I know a lot of people think the Ravens won't be as good next year with all the FAs, but I disagree. I feel the Ravens are one of the most explosively balanced offensive teams in the NFL. Defensively, they'll lose leadership from Ray, but there is more then enough talent for these guys to be great at the bend but don't break style they showed in the playoffs.

My bold prediction that isn't so bold for me is, Flacco will capture 2 SB MVP awards and a NFL MVP award before ever playing in the Pro Bowl. That's right, the Ravens will win back to back rings and Flacco will be the only active QB to win the AP NFL MVP and SB MVP in the same year.
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[quote name='Ravensfan23' timestamp='1360721429' post='1356127']
My bold prediction that isn't so bold for me is, Flacco will capture 2 SB MVP awards and a NFL MVP award before ever playing in the Pro Bowl. That's right, the Ravens will win back to back rings and Flacco will be the only active QB to win the AP NFL MVP and SB MVP in the same year.
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Mighty bold of you! At first I was thinking" Super Bowl MVP and AP NFL MVP in 2013 might even be possible, but no way he does that without also being voted to the Pro Bowl next year. Then I noticed you said "playing" in the Pro Bowl. Heh. Well played, sir.
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[quote name='callahan09' timestamp='1360722661' post='1356139']


Mighty bold of you! At first I was thinking" Super Bowl MVP and AP NFL MVP in 2013 might even be possible, but no way he does that without also being voted to the Pro Bowl next year. Then I noticed you said "playing" in the Pro Bowl. Heh. Well played, sir.
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Yea I see a 4,500yds 41TDs 5Int type season. I know it seems odd to see Flacco TD total double and his Int cut in half, but when I look at his play under Caldwell, I didn't see anything that would make me say, Flacco is playing above himself. I just saw the play caller finally scheming the offense for Joe and Joe not wasting opportunities.

Every time the Ravens got into the redzone it was basically a TD(when passing) because Caldwell would find the weakness and Flacco would find the mismatch. This offense will only grow and get better under Caldwell. I think Caldwell will bring an even faster pace and better short-mid range passing game that will just increase Flacco's completion percentage, extend more drives on 3rd downs and ultimately open up the deep passing game because safeties will have to react to the middle, leaving Torrey and Jacoby 1on1 and it's not many defense that can contain the deep ball without safety help.
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[quote name='callahan09' timestamp='1360696916' post='1355636']
Please note, the stats do include post-season performances for each year.
The red is his career worst season in that category, the green is his career best season in that category.
The X Axis of each graph represents the season of his career (e.g. 1 = Rookie Season / 2008, 2 = 2nd Second Season / 2009, etc.)

2008 (19 Games):
Total: 290/503, 3408 Yards, 15 TD, 15 INT = [i][color=#ff0000]75.9 QB Rating[/color][/i]
[i][color=#ff0000]179.4 Y/G[/color][/i], 57.7%, 6.78 Y/A, [i][color=#ff0000]33.5 A/TD[/color][/i], [i][color=#ff0000]33.5 A/INT[/color][/i]

2009 (18 Games):
Total: 339/544, 3836 Yards, 21 TD, 15 INT = 84.8 QB Rating
213.1 Y/G, 62.3%, 7.05 Y/A, 25.9 A/TD, 36.3 A/INT

2010 (18 Games):
Total: 347/553, 4012 Yards, 28 TD, 11 INT = 93.2 QB Rating
222.9 Y/G, [b][color=#006400]62.7%[/color][/b], 7.25 Y/A, [b][color=#006400]19.8 A/TD[/color][/b], 50.3 A/INT

2011 (18 Games):
Total: 348/605, 4092 Yards, 24 TD, 13 INT = 82.5 QB Rating
227.3 Y/G, [i][color=#ff0000]57.5%[/color][/i], [i][color=#ff0000]6.76 Y/A[/color][/i], 25.2 A/TD, 46.5 A/INT

2012 (20 Games):
Total: 390/657, 4957 Yards, 33 TD, 10 INT = [color=#006400][b]93.4 QB Rating[/b][/color]
[b][color=#006400]247.9 Y/G[/color][/b], 59.4%, [b][color=#006400]7.54 Y/A[/color][/b], 19.9 A/TD, [b][color=#006400]65.7 A/INT[/color][/b]

[u][b]Passer Rating[/b][/u]

[img]http://i49.tinypic.com/35cigpl.png[/img]

[u][b]Yards Per Game[/b][/u]

[u][b][img]http://i47.tinypic.com/6qi7nm.png[/img][/b][/u]

[u][b]Completion Percentage[/b][/u]

[u][b][img]http://i46.tinypic.com/mbgy8k.png[/img][/b][/u]
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First of all stellar post with all the analytic data and charts...props for that. My $0.2 on Joe is this...

He is a great QB, he has all the makings of one-height with out a lack of mobility, arguably the biggest arm in the league, and his accuracy is getting better and better and ever since we got him a deep threat his deep accuracy seems spot on. His best quality is the nickname we gave him as a rookie "Joe Cool". He seems to have freezing cold nerves that even in the big time situations dont bend or break, he always keeps a posotive attitude, and that quality definitely helped us get to the super bowl this year. Flacco still has things to work on...(even Aaron Rodgers looks to improve during the offseason)

He needs to work on pocket awareness a bit for those times when he wont be as greatly protected as he was this post season. He needs to work on timing with receivers which is something every QB does during the offseason...maybe Joe will meet up with Torrey and Pitta and Doss and do some pre-OTA/preseason throwing. With better timing he can help correct the overthrowing he was well criticized about this year both on the message boards and by reporters/analysts. And making better reads and decisions in the redzone.

All in all as I have said all year long...Flacco isnt a flashy QB who is going to make 1000 chnages at the line of scrimmage and look like Manning, or Brees or Ryan...thats just not his forte. He is not the flashiest guy on the field but more of a guy who has what it takes to win games when the game is on the line, and is developing into a super clutch elite caliber QB...

Think about all of his comeback wins in his career there were a couple good ones even before this year alone where his clutch demeanor went through the roof. Flacco has all the perfect traits of a solid QB, and you cant take those away, he can only get better and as a team we can make him even better by putting more weapons around him.

Flacco had a revalation of a post season this year. He solidified himself as a clutch QB with elite traits all over the place who finally shut up the critics on these forums who said its time to cut ties with him and rebuild, draft Gino Smith in the first round, maybe even see what Tyrod has to offer us, someone even suggested that we trade Flacco to the Redskins for Kirk Cousins HAHAHA Back on point Flacco came a long way this year and developed a lot of confidence. He just had one of the greatest journeys to the SB, and then took on the best defense in the league and man handled it on the biggest stage in the world.

The one area people still think separates Flacco from the other elite QBs is the fact that his regular season stats are average. I think Joe is poised to have the breakout season we wanted last year. Now that Cam Cameron is gone and the offense is 10x better, and we finally have a good balance to the o-line I think Flacco will have over 4000 yards and 30TDs, becoming a pro bowl QB and finally putting the cherry on top to the fact that he is truly elite.
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I hope he can continue on this path under Caldwell, we saw how he really stepped up in the postseason.
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BTW 2011. Was the year. Flacco not only lost his QB coach, but his top 2 receivers. 1# WR - Mason and his #1 TE HEEEEEAP. There was a learning curve for the connection between Joe to Torrey Smith, Pitta and Dickenson.
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[quote name='JoeCool#5' timestamp='1360967525' post='1358829']
BTW 2011. Was the year. Flacco not only lost his QB coach, but his top 2 receivers. 1# WR - Mason and his #1 TE HEEEEEAP. There was a learning curve for the connection between Joe to Torrey Smith, Pitta and Dickenson.
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We lost Housh too. We only had one receiver who had ever caught a pass in Baltimore.
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