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[Purple_ICE 81]

We keep our 1st rounder, but trade our 4th and 5th round picks for a 3rd round pick.

1st- Kevin Minter ILB LSU- Fingers crossed that he will be around come 32, but if he is there theres no question he will be a perfect pick. I think most of us are familiar with Minter, he is a very instinctual athlete, great football IQ looks like a leader, a hard hitter and good rushing techniques as well. He has a good motor and is always going after the ball. He would be a perfect fit if for some reason we cant retain Denelle Ellerbe or even playing alongside Ellerbe if we do keep him.

2nd- Jesse Williams DT Alabama- 'Bama alumni...Ozzie approved. Ozzie came out and said we need to get stronger up front and improve the DT position. A wise decision seeing that we allowed RBs to trample our d-line all year long. With Maake Kemoatu likely playing elsewhere in 2013 and Mount Cody's performance in question I like Williams to come in and improve our d-line. Jesse Williams has definite skill at the position, although some will argue that he could be drafted later on in the draft. Jesse Williams is a big bodied run stuffer who can also get after the QB and contribute on passing plays aswell, might have to rotate with Cody at first, but he has a great motor and could become a 3 down NT. He looks like a solid pick.


3rd-Quinton Patton WR Louisiana Tech- Great hands, he has big 9.5 inch hands which are close to Hakeem Nicks hands which are around 10inches and one of Nick's trademark assets. He has good size/speed ratio, not too big or physical but has the speed to play on the outside although he would benefit more as a slot guy. Runs good routes, and is pretty sure handed which he displayed at the senior bowl. In the case that we dont retain Anquan Boldin, I feel that Patton could oversee his duties. Some may say that he could go in the 2nd but I see guys like Hopkins, Hunter, Woods, Austin and others going in the 2nd making Patton an excellent early/mid 3rd round option.


3rd- Tony Jefferson FS Oklahoma- Not the biggest guy to play FS at 5'11" 205lbs but his skill and leadership qualities overlook that aspect for sure. He plays all over the place and can impact a variety of areas-he can blitz, cover the slot, and isnt afraid to take on bigger targets like TEs or speedy RBs either. He can also make an impact on special teams. Ozzie has a good feeling we will retain Ed Reed, so grabbing a raw safety who has some good skill to work with who can sit and learn behind Ed Reed is the best case scenario, and with a late 3rd you cant really complain.


4th(comp)- Cornellius Carradine DE/OLB Florida State- Played well this year before hurting his knee. ACL surgery will drastically lower his stock. Some would argue prior to the injury he was a 1st-2nd round talent. He is quick and pretty agile for a big guy and makes good use of his hands which helps him get after the QB alot.


5th(comp)- Tyrann Mathieu DB/RS- Definitely a work in progress type player, but a safety of the future and someone to watch out for. I feel like he could contribute on special teams as a rookie, and possibly even on returns when Jacoby cant do them. People argue he is udersized but a lot of DBs are around 5'10" and play at a high level...see our own Lardarius Webb.


6th- Boldin 2.0-Chris Harper WR Kansas State- He followed the same route Boldin did...going into college as a QB then not having the size or throwing power to get the job done. So Harper transfered from Oregon to Kansas State where he made a living as a WR. Boldin is 6'1" 225lbs, Harper is 6'1" 230lbs, both receivers use their physicality to get the ball, although Harper may be slightly quicker than Boldin he will be judged as too slow for the NFL just like Boldin was. However just like Boldin just proved in the Super Bowl, you can run a 4.7 40 time and still make an impact. Obviously Harper is no where near as talented as Boldin is, he definitely has the same style of play and could be a bit of good deja vu for Flacco, if Boldin gets released.

7th-BPA/Depth

Edited by Purple_ICE 81, 11 February 2013 - 09:07 PM.

[dirtybird10]

I like it, but I don't know if we will be taking 2 more receivers when we already have a logjam of about 8 guys on our current roster. We had to IR Streeter just to hang onto him last year. I would be surprised if we drafted one, let alone two, unless we are going to certainly cut Boldin, and don't feel some of the guys we still have are the answer.

[GrimCoconut]

We keep our 1st rounder, but trade our 4th and 5th round picks for an early 3rd round pick.

1st- Kevin Minter ILB LSU- Fingers crossed that he will be around come 32, but if he is there theres no question he will be a perfect pick. I think most of us are familiar with Minter, he is a very instinctual athlete, great football IQ looks like a leader, a hard hitter and good rushing techniques as well. He has a good motor and is always going after the ball. He would be a perfect fit if for some reason we cant retain Denelle Ellerbe or even playing alongside Ellerbe if we do keep him.

2nd- Jesse Williams DT Alabama- 'Bama alumni...Ozzie approved. Ozzie came out and said we need to get stronger up front and improve the DT position. A wise decision seeing that we allowed RBs to trample our d-line all year long. With Maake Kemoatu likely playing elsewhere in 2013 and Mount Cody's performance in question I like Williams to come in and improve our d-line. Jesse Williams has definite skill at the position, although some will argue that he could be drafted later on in the draft. Jesse Williams is a big bodied run stuffer who can also get after the QB and contribute on passing plays aswell, might have to rotate with Cody at first, but he has a great motor and could become a 3 down NT. He looks like a solid pick.


3rd-Quinton Patton WR Louisiana Tech- Great hands, he has big 9.5 inch hands which are close to Hakeem Nicks hands which are around 10inches and one of Nick's trademark assets. He has good size/speed ratio, not too big or physical but has the speed to play on the outside although he would benefit more as a slot guy. Runs good routes, and is pretty sure handed which he displayed at the senior bowl. In the case that we dont retain Anquan Boldin, I feel that Patton could oversee his duties. Some may say that he could go in the 2nd but I see guys like Hopkins, Hunter, Woods, Austin and others going in the 3rd making Patton an excellent early/mid 3rd round option.


3rd- Tony Jefferson FS Oklahoma- Not the biggest guy to play FS at 5'11" 205lbs but his skill and leadership qualities overlook that aspect for sure. He plays all over the place and can impact a variety of areas-he can blitz, cover the slot, and isnt afraid to take on bigger targets like TEs or speedy RBs either. He can also make an impact on special teams. Ozzie has a good feeling we will retain Ed Reed, so grabbing a raw safety who has some good skill to work with who can sit and learn behind Ed Reed is the best case scenario, and with a late 3rd you cant really complain.


4th(comp)- Cornellius Carradine DE/OLB Florida State- Played well this year before hurting his knee. ACL surgery will drastically lower his stock. Some would argue prior to the injury he was a 1st-2nd round talent. He is quick and pretty agile for a big guy and makes good use of his hands which helps him get after the QB alot.


5th(comp)- Tyrann Mathieu DB/RS- Definitely a work in progress type player, but a safety of the future and someone to watch out for. I feel like he could contribute on special teams as a rookie, and possibly even on returns when Jacoby cant do them. People argue he is udersized but a lot of DBs are around 5'10" and play at a high level...see our own Lardarius Webb.


6th- Boldin 2.0-Chris Harper WR Kansas State- He followed the same route Boldin did...going into college as a QB then not having the size or throwing power to get the job done. So Harper transfered from Oregon to Kansas State where he made a living as a WR. Boldin is 6'1" 225lbs, Harper is 6'1" 230lbs, both receivers use their physicality to get the ball, although Harper may be slightly quicker than Boldin he will be judged as too slow for the NFL just like Boldin was. However just like Boldin just proved in the Super Bowl, you can run a 4.7 40 time and still make an impact. Obviously Harper is no where near as talented as Boldin is, he definitely has the same style of play and could be a bit of good deja vu for Flacco, if Boldin gets released.

7th-BPA/Depth

If we can get these players I will have a stroke. Love them all. With that said, I think it's unrealistic. We won't be able to trade the last pick in the 4th & 5th rounds for an early 3rd round pick. If you want to predict trades, how about we trade out of the first into the early 2nd & pick up a 4th like we did before. Then, trade the early 4th & our late 4th to move up into the early 3rd or late 2nd. We can also trade Michael Oher & draft a guy like Chris Faulk & re-sign McKinnie & put Faulk at RT, or we can put Faulk at LT & Reid at RT.

Top needs are ILB/MLB, NT/DT, S & OT. Depth guys would be OLB/DE, CB, TE, G/C. WR if we cut Boldin.

[BloodRaven]

Solid mock.

Minter maybe the safest pick out of all the linebackers, but he isn't a leader. Theres also a good chance Jesse Williams is tken before we make our first pick, his stock is rising and he's going to be one of the combine stars.

[Purple_ICE 81]

Top needs are ILB/MLB, NT/DT, S & OT. Depth guys would be OLB/DE, CB, TE, G/C. WR if we cut Boldin.

Im not so sure OT is much of a need. However I would put it in a category of "risers": if we cut Boldin the need for a wide receiver in the draft will rise. If we cant retain Ed Reed the need for a safety will rise. If Bryant Mckinnie cant be retained then the need for OT will rise. Theres alot of questions that need to be answered before the true and blue team needs are revealed. However of coarse Ozzie did lay out the line to some extent and say that ILB, D-line, and safety were amongst the top team needs this offseason.

[Purple_ICE 81]

I like it, but I don't know if we will be taking 2 more receivers when we already have a logjam of about 8 guys on our current roster. We had to IR Streeter just to hang onto him last year. I would be surprised if we drafted one, let alone two, unless we are going to certainly cut Boldin, and don't feel some of the guys we still have are the answer.

Very good point and it was a well thought out consideration when I was doing this mock, and knew someone would bring it up. Primarily I just wanted to bring up the fact that Boldin may indeed be cut, however there is still a bigger need to fill voids on defense moreso than use an early pick on a receiver. So thats why I chose Patton in the 3rd. For Chris Harper I just thought the comparison to Boldin was awesome, and its the 6th round and to quote the Oz "you can never have enough receivers".

1.Torrey Smith

2.Boldin/Jacoby Jones.

3.Jones/Doss/Thompson?

4.Thompson?/Streeter?

There are a lot of holes in our receiving corps. and another 2 receivers to add to the competition the better. Thompson and Streeter are very raw BUT who knows about Patton and Harper. But you make a great point...we do have a lot of receivers just have to sort through them.

[GrimCoconut]

Im not so sure OT is much of a need. However I would put it in a category of "risers": if we cut Boldin the need for a wide receiver in the draft will rise. If we cant retain Ed Reed the need for a safety will rise. If Bryant Mckinnie cant be retained then the need for OT will rise. Theres alot of questions that need to be answered before the true and blue team needs are revealed. However of coarse Ozzie did lay out the line to some extent and say that ILB, D-line, and safety were amongst the top team needs this offseason.

I think Ozzie would take an OL if there. McKinnie is a FA & Oher is on his last year with no extension as of yet. We have Reid, Harewood (though not yet tendered), Cornell as guys who can play OL. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Oher at LT & Reid at RT, but going into a final year for Oher's rookie deal doesn't bode well for his future. Reid has also been injured a lot and could be a bust (not saying he is).

You're right, we have many questions. I can see the Ravens take a guy like Armstead on the 3rd day to develop for a year & use Oher at LT & Reid at RT.

[Purple_ICE 81]

I think Ozzie would take an OL if there. McKinnie is a FA & Oher is on his last year with no extension as of yet. We have Reid, Harewood (though not yet tendered), Cornell as guys who can play OL. I wouldn't be surprised if we see Oher at LT & Reid at RT, but going into a final year for Oher's rookie deal doesn't bode well for his future. Reid has also been injured a lot and could be a bust (not saying he is).

You're right, we have many questions. I can see the Ravens take a guy like Armstead on the 3rd day to develop for a year & use Oher at LT & Reid at RT.

I can see how it would be a need but Ozzie seemed very confident in the guys we have. Someone asked him about the need for a new LT and he was pretty much happy with the guys we have on our roster, he must have a plan. But in my first mock I had us taking the LSU tackle in the 4th forgot his name...Folk or whatever, so I am definitely not against taking one...just going off what Oz said. Even if we retain Mckinnie, he will likely be on a 1 yr deal and like you said Oher is on the brink of free agency. And you mentioned Oher at LT the thought of that makes me want to puke big time haha he is solid on the right side, if he moved back to LT I could see big problems. I think next year will be a big o-line year in th offseason. Atleast this year we have a few guys to work with and a couple holes that can be plugged.

[GrimCoconut]

I can see how it would be a need but Ozzie seemed very confident in the guys we have. Someone asked him about the need for a new LT and he was pretty much happy with the guys we have on our roster, he must have a plan. But in my first mock I had us taking the LSU tackle in the 4th forgot his name...Folk or whatever, so I am definitely not against taking one...just going off what Oz said. Even if we retain Mckinnie, he will likely be on a 1 yr deal and like you said Oher is on the brink of free agency. And you mentioned Oher at LT the thought of that makes me want to puke big time haha he is solid on the right side, if he moved back to LT I could see big problems. I think next year will be a big o-line year in th offseason. Atleast this year we have a few guys to work with and a couple holes that can be plugged.

I will get negged for this, but I think having KO at LG will make Oher a better LT. He wasn't great with Grubbs, but it cannot be argued that he played well at the beginning of the year. He got bad at the end. There was a lot of turnover at LG. It was a carousel. I think Oher can be a LT at least for a year if KO is there. I am more worried about Reid at RT.

I agree. I think Oz has a plan. I wouldn't be surprised if it includes Jack Cornell. The Ravens were very high on him in TC last year and they kept him on the PS all year.

[izvoodoo]

I will get negged for this, but I think having KO at LG will make Oher a better LT. He wasn't great with Grubbs, but it cannot be argued that he played well at the beginning of the year. He got bad at the end. There was a lot of turnover at LG. It was a carousel. I think Oher can be a LT at least for a year if KO is there. I am more worried about Reid at RT.

I agree. I think Oz has a plan. I wouldn't be surprised if it includes Jack Cornell. The Ravens were very high on him in TC last year and they kept him on the PS all year.

Yeah, I know a lot of people want another LT, but bar a top 20 pick it may not happen. We may want to find a solid RT to keep Osemele at LG.

Keeping Osemele at guard should be the priority, he's so physical.

[Cville-Raven]

There is no way Hopkins is going to fall to round 3. I mean if he is falling the Ravens would have to be idiots to pass on him.

[Dubs]

I really like Chris Harper and do think he can be a poor mans Boldin...I do think you may have one too many WRs but I like the draft

[Dewy101]

I hate minter too much talk around him and if you see his tapes he doesn't stand out at all. He isn't explosive and is horible at shedding block not to mention he is t good in coverage. He plays a lot like Ellerbe. I'm not saying Ellerbe isn't good but there are better linebackers. Ogletree is my favorite and I'm sure he wouldn't fall to us. So In that case
1.Arthur Brown LB. - People keep saying he won't be able to play in the middle but he will. He's more explosive than Minter and is better in the pass. Plays a lot like Daryl Washington
2. DJ Swearinger S - we obviously need a leader on D and DJ can be that guy. He's a hard hitter and has a lot of playmaking ability. He plays pissed off and fits in perfectly in our system
3. Chris Faulk T - we need to protect Joe and Faulk is obviously the best tackle available at this position. He does have the potential to play on the left just needs some development
4. Tank Carradine DE - We need a pass rushing DE and he fits the mold. Just needs to get healthy
5. Ryan Swope WR - we don't need a WR but he does have potential.

BPA

Edited by Dewy101, 11 February 2013 - 05:55 PM.

[GrimCoconut]

I hate minter too much talk around him and if you see his tapes he doesn't stand out at all. He isn't explosive and is horible at shedding block not to mention he is t good in coverage. He plays a lot like Ellerbe. I'm not saying Ellerbe isn't good but there are better linebackers. Ogletree is my favorite and I'm sure he wouldn't fall to us. So In that case
1.Arthur Brown LB. - People keep saying he won't be able to play in the middle but he will. He's more explosive than Minter and is better in the pass. Plays a lot like Daryl Washington
2. DJ Swearinger S - we obviously need a leader on D and DJ can be that guy. He's a hard hitter and has a lot of playmaking ability. He plays pissed off and fits in perfectly in our system
3. Chris Faulk T - we need to protect Joe and Faulk is obviously the best tackle available at this position. He does have the potential to play on the left just needs some development
4. Tank Carradine DE - We need a pass rushing DE and he fits the mold. Just needs to get healthy
5. Ryan Swope WR - we don't need a WR but he does have potential.

BPA

Though I disagree with your analysis of Minter, though I realize I can't change someone's opinion on a player. I agree with all your picks. I like them a lot myself. I would be extremely happy with those players.

[Purple_ICE 81]

There is no way Hopkins is going to fall to round 3. I mean if he is falling the Ravens would have to be idiots to pass on him.

There is no way Hopkins is going to fall to round 3. I mean if he is falling the Ravens would have to be idiots to pass on him.

It was a HUGE typo I know for fact Hopkins will likely be the 3rd or 4th receiver taken this year and same with all those other guys I mentioned. I was saying I see guys like Hopkins, Hunter, Woods all being taken in the 2nd (but I wrote 3rd by mistake) therefore teams will pass on Patton who to some is considered a 2nd round talent, making Patton a solid option in the 3rd round.

[dhstandard]

No offense, but a lot of these guys are going to be drafted much higher. Jesse Williams probably won't make it to 32 much less the 2nd round.

[Purple_ICE 81]

No offense, but a lot of these guys are going to be drafted much higher. Jesse Williams probably won't make it to 32 much less the 2nd round.

You never know...a lot of people think Jesse Williams could go in the late 2nd. And really it was baded off feedback I got on here. I liked the idea of taking Williams with 32nd pick and a lot of people thought he could be there in the second or even a bit later in the second. Until the combine and pro days conclude, everyone's stock is a bit uo in the air and prone to change. So thats why I think we could get Williams in the 2nd although we would have to trade up for him.

[Purple_ICE 81]

I hate minter too much talk around him and if you see his tapes he doesn't stand out at all. He isn't explosive and is horible at shedding block not to mention he is t good in coverage. He plays a lot like Ellerbe. I'm not saying Ellerbe isn't good but there are better linebackers. Ogletree is my favorite and I'm sure he wouldn't fall to us. So In that case
1.Arthur Brown LB. - People keep saying he won't be able to play in the middle but he will. He's more explosive than Minter and is better in the pass. Plays a lot like Daryl Washington
2. DJ Swearinger S - we obviously need a leader on D and DJ can be that guy. He's a hard hitter and has a lot of playmaking ability. He plays pissed off and fits in perfectly in our system
3. Chris Faulk T - we need to protect Joe and Faulk is obviously the best tackle available at this position. He does have the potential to play on the left just needs some development
4. Tank Carradine DE - We need a pass rushing DE and he fits the mold. Just needs to get healthy
5. Ryan Swope WR - we don't need a WR but he does have potential.

BPA

Ogletree will likely be the first "LB" taken off the boards even Arthur Brown may be taken early too. A lot of buzz around them being taken as OLBs instead of inside guys, they are small and more athletic so I could see teams taking them for that. Especially Ogletree he is a very raw ILB prospect, the reason he will go so fast is that he is versatile and can play all over the place, he is not as strong as Minter and a lot smaller too, but he has his advantages over Minter being more athletic and fast which is why I think he will benefit more as a OLB.

[Ravens<3]

Ideally for me this would be the perfect draft.

[The Raven]

Like it, but I'd like for a left tackle to be in there somewhere.