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Patriots may release Brandon Lloyd

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http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/talk-in-new-england-that-welker-lloyd-could-both-be-gone/

Not trying to discuss whether or not he stays, but assuming they release him, should we make a run for him?

He shouldn't demand too much. He is an amazing receiver but has just fit in with the string of receivers unable to produce in the Patriots complex offense. He makes the toughest catches look easy and at a fairly low price would make a great addition.
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no, personally I think since the Flacco contract is going to take up a lot of room, and judging by the limited amount we have now, we are trying to figure something out to keep SOME of our guys here instead of releasing them. im more concerned with that right now lol.
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Overrated...

Had one good season way back when (someone on this board was calling him the best WR in football) but hasn't done anything since. He's a system guy like Deion Branch, Stallworth, etc were for the Pats.
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[quote name='berad' timestamp='1360544270' post='1353746']
Overrated...

[b]Had one good season way back[/b] when (someone on this board was calling him the best WR in football) but hasn't done anything since. He's a system guy like Deion Branch, Stallworth, etc were for the Pats.
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The season he had McDaniels as a head coach.

So no thanks. Like you said, he's just a system guy. He's only had 1 season where he went over 1000 yards/10 TDs. His next best season was with the Rams, when he had 700 yards, 5 Tds. I'm good. Take the money and give it to Boldin/Jones.
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I'm surprised they'd consider releasing him, considering how Welker probably won't be coming back.
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[quote name='bauer77' timestamp='1360544557' post='1353761']
The season he had McDaniels as a head coach.

So no thanks. Like you said, he's just a system guy. He's only had 1 season where he went over 1000 yards/10 TDs. His next best season was with the Rams, when he had 700 yards, 5 Tds. I'm good. Take the money and give it to Boldin/Jones.
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Well you pretty much said it...Look at his teams. 49ers Redskins Bears Broncos. 49ers had a terrible offense, Redskins were awful, Rex Grossman, Kyle Orton and Tebow for quarterbacks. The sad excuse for a Rams offense. And for the Pats, many receiver fail because they are required to make multiple reads on plays while the Patriots have 3 targets ahead of him with Gronk, Hernandez, and Welker.

He hasn't really been put in a situation where he could produce. Also his price tag will probably be less than 5 million.
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His game is very one dimensional in my opinion. An outside the numbers guy will little or no YAC ability. I think Miami should go after him especially if they get Jennings.
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[quote name='dhstandard' timestamp='1360543631' post='1353715']
[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/talk-in-new-england-that-welker-lloyd-could-both-be-gone/"]http://profootballta...d-both-be-gone/[/url]

Not trying to discuss whether or not he stays, but assuming they release him, should we make a run for him?

He shouldn't demand too much. He is an amazing receiver but has just fit in with the string of receivers unable to produce in the Patriots complex offense. He makes the toughest catches look easy and at a fairly low price would make a great addition.
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No simply because he's soft. Wears down over the course of games, dives to the ground to avoid contact, and isn't great blocking the run. 6 games in the AFC North would not bode well for his production over the course of a season in my opinion.
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We have enough pass catchers, and more than enough guys who need to get retained.
Remember, teams that focus on the draft tend to have more success than teams like Detroit and Phili that go crazy in free agency.
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[quote name='T3hRaven' timestamp='1360545139' post='1353786']
I'm surprised they'd consider releasing him, considering how Welker probably won't be coming back.
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Bellichik has a plan. He always does.
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[quote name='dhstandard' timestamp='1360545643' post='1353802']
Well you pretty much said it...Look at his teams. 49ers Redskins Bears Broncos. 49ers had a terrible offense, Redskins were awful, Rex Grossman, Kyle Orton and Tebow for quarterbacks. The sad excuse for a Rams offense. And for the Pats, many receiver fail because they are required to make multiple reads on plays while the Patriots have 3 targets ahead of him with Gronk, Hernandez, and Welker.

He hasn't really been put in a situation where he could produce. Also his price tag will probably be less than 5 million.
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Good receivers can find a way to produce. He's going to be 32, you basically know what you have with him.
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[quote name='display name' timestamp='1360548966' post='1353928']
Bellichik has a plan. He always does.
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I hope that plan is Randy Moss. I want to see him back in New England.
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I forgot about his option bonus. The Pats will net like $3 million in cap space so the move makes a lot of sense actually.
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He gets a lot of credit for making some spectacular catches that don't seem possible. However, he's just not as great as has been lead on for awhile now. We have better options.
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[quote name='beasy2487' timestamp='1360548230' post='1353903']
No simply because he's soft. [b]Wears down over the course of games, dives to the ground to avoid contact, and isn't great blocking the run. 6 games in the AFC North would not bode well for his production [/b]over the course of a season in my opinion.
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wow, he said it all about Brandon in 1 sentence...lol

He's fitted well in the NFC, not in the physical AFC where Ravens and Steelers will crush him in dirt.....
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[quote name='dhstandard' timestamp='1360543631' post='1353715']
[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/talk-in-new-england-that-welker-lloyd-could-both-be-gone/"]http://profootballta...d-both-be-gone/[/url]

Not trying to discuss whether or not he stays, but assuming they release him, should we make a run for him?

He shouldn't demand too much. He is an amazing receiver but has just fit in with the string of receivers unable to produce in the Patriots complex offense. He makes the toughest catches look easy and at a fairly low price would make a great addition.
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Nah, I beleive Boldin will be the last veteran receiver on this team for a while. We finally have a skillful young WR of the future in Torrey Smith, so we will continue with him as our number 1 receiver and build around him via the draft or young cheap FAs. Lloyd cant separate from CBs anymore, he is not much of a deep threat like he was with...hahaha Kyle Orton, and he seems to just run the back shoulder fade constantly. In 2012 he was targeted around 8-10 times a game and failed to eclipse 1000yards. or 5 TDs. He is coming up on 32 yrs old, he needs to go somewhere like Arizona or Kansas City where revamping the passing game is a need, and they have the money to afford a risk/reward inconsistent type player
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He's too old and over the hill. Plus he's probably going to ask for a lot of money.
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I predict he'll either become a Viking or Brown.


Ravens should have no business with them
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[quote name='display name' timestamp='1360548910' post='1353924']
We have enough pass catchers, and more than enough guys who need to get retained.
Remember, teams that focus on the draft tend to have more success than teams like Detroit and Phili that go crazy in free agency.
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Your acting like this guy is a 10 million a year free agent...He is only due around 4-5 million this season and the Patriots want to cut him. Putting down a few million on a pretty good receiver is a bargain.
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[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1360683570' post='1355412']
First MIA, then NE? Guess the AFC East wasn't for him.
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Not sure who you're confusing him with (Marshall, maybe?) but Lloyd never played for Miami.
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