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Teams were ready to "steal" Joe Flacco

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[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/teams-were-contemplating-a-franchise-tag-run-at-flacco-before-the-postseason/"]http://profootballta...the-postseason/[/url]

Before the playoffs even started and Flacco was only an "average" quarterback in most people's eyes, Teams were ready to give up 2 1st round picks and a ton of cap space to sign Flacco.

Just shows how ungrateful people are. Least everyone knows the truth now.
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This is why we must come to some agreement on a long term contract and not using the Franchise Tag for $20 Million. I would hate to put the non-exclusive tag on him just because it is cheaper and risk losing him.
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i'm not gonna lie, i am one that rode Joe hard this past season and probably will do it again next if he plays like garbage. lol! but i did it because i knew Joe could be a great QB and wanted to see him play like one badly but he wasn't demonstrating it (at times) on a consistent basis. sure, a lot of that was due to Cam handcuffing him and holding him back and the 0-line stinking up the joint earlier in the season until they shuffled them around. once they did that...Joe started picking defenses apart! so now, i am happy for Joe Flacco getting all of the props and praise he deserves. congrats on the MVP Joe and next season....we get to do it all over again! let's go Joe!

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[quote name='dhstandard' timestamp='1360528183' post='1353186']
[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/teams-were-contemplating-a-franchise-tag-run-at-flacco-before-the-postseason/"]http://profootballta...the-postseason/[/url]

Before the playoffs even started and Flacco was only an "average" quarterback in most people's eyes, Teams were ready to give up 2 1st round picks and a ton of cap space to sign Flacco.

Just shows how ungrateful people are. Least everyone knows the truth now.
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I knew this. Teams that ride the QB carousel get sick from the ride and will eventually make the necessary moves to get a QB (Mortaging the future).

Their are plenty of teams that would love to have a winning young Qb on their team. Some teams are really only missing that piece to be a contender. That is why a steep price is worth it.
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Who didn't know it was going to cost us a ton to keep Joe. Everybody knows that you can't win if you don't have a front line QB. Some people in this town may not know just what we have in Flacco, but there are 31 other teams that do. Keep this in mind the cap baloons in 2015. If we can keep Joe's cap number under control till then we will be ok. Joe has to realize it too, and he wants to win just as bad as anyone. With a high price QB, Ozzie and Steve will have to learn what NE's, Green Bays and NO's FO has had to learn. How to build a winner with one player taking up 20% of the cap. Draft picks will become even more important. Lucky for us we have the wizard of OZ.
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[quote name='JO_75' timestamp='1360530677' post='1353220']
This is why we must come to some agreement on a long term contract and not using the Franchise Tag for $20 Million. I would hate to put the non-exclusive tag on him just because it is cheaper and risk losing him.
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Sorry I meant to give you a positive vote.
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Teams are ready to steal him to make up for the fact they can't find their own Franchise QB so they want to steal someone else's franchise quarterback. So essentially we could lose Joe because of some teams inability to not find Franchise quarterbacks.
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First comment I agree with "some teams like who?"
The scenario just lists that if the downs wanted to screw Baltimore over they could but it doesn't mean they would
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There's nothing to really worry about, Flacco will be a Raven. If Ozzie has to slap the exclusive on him at the cost of losing Kruger, Williams, Reed, McKinnie etc then he's going to do it. But Flacco will be a Raven for the next 5+ years.

It is interesting to note that teams were ready to put all their chips into the Flacco camp even though the media thought he was nothing more than middling QB.
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[quote name='BMORElegacy' timestamp='1360530476' post='1353217']
We knew what we had in Flacco even before this season started. The people that hate on him hate on everybody.
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I dunno. I was really afraid when we went through that bad stretch that Joe had reached his ceiling. As I recall, he had quite a few turnovers down that stretch, a few strip sacks, just not good. I can honestly say I never once put it all on Joe, but at the time I was really questioning his awareness and not super-optimistic about his ceiling.

So whether that's "hate" I don't know. I was never really sure. Now, it seems pretty clear to me that he is a guy that, given protection, is every bit as good as any other QB in the league. Whether those strip-sack issues will show up again, or he'll have more games where he can't find a rhythm, well, probably. But, to be fair, even the greats aren't great every game.
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Phil Simms said it best on Inside the NFL, when he said that what he learned after the Super Bowl is that it's amazing how many people can't admit they were wrong about Joe Flacco. It's laughable to hear so called experts say that if you were to re-draft, Flacco still would be taken in the top 10 of QBs.

The best of Flacco has yet to come. I've expected huge seasons from Flacco the last two year and while he's shown flashes, lack of a OC that schemes well has hurt him. He's at flaut as well, but we've seen enough from Joe under Caldwell to get a good idea that Cam has held him back. I expect Flacco to really shine next year, I mean regular season MVP type shine. No that's not super bowl excitement talking as I also predicted Flacco Super Bowl run. I just think he's reached that level where he expects to be the best player on the field at all times and his players feel the same way.

I reallyy enjoy watching Sound FX and other wired shows because players let you know what they really feel on the sidelines and opposing players really showed Flacco respect. It'll be interesting to see where Flacco will rank on the Top 100 this year and who will talk about him. Talking heads might not still respect Flacco or they might continue to say the Ravens need to run the ball to be successful, but players, coaches and other personnel around the NFL knows Flacco is a STUD.

Good thing the Ravens know it too.
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Anybody remember the comments by an "unnamed opposing coach" that he'd be shocked if Flacco had a breakout year? OK, the season was "meh" statistically - until it really counted. :D
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[quote name='dhstandard' timestamp='1360528183' post='1353186']
[url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/10/teams-were-contemplating-a-franchise-tag-run-at-flacco-before-the-postseason/"]http://profootballta...the-postseason/[/url]

Before the playoffs even started and Flacco was only an "average" quarterback in most people's eyes, Teams were ready to give up 2 1st round picks and a ton of cap space to sign Flacco.

Just shows how ungrateful people are. Least everyone knows the truth now.
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Kinda means nothing. They dont list teams obviously, but they really dont give us much in terms of making us think this was gonna happen. Even if it is true, this could just be something a divisional rival is throwing out there in order to force us into using the exclusive tag.
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[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1360535050' post='1353329']
There's nothing to really worry about, Flacco will be a Raven. If Ozzie has to slap the exclusive on him at the cost of losing Kruger, Williams, Reed, McKinnie etc then he's going to do it. But Flacco will be a Raven for the next 5+ years.

It is interesting to note that teams were ready to put all their chips into the Flacco camp even though the media thought he was nothing more than middling QB.
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I dunno how long he'll be liking his job if they start trading away his oline.
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[quote name='plesiosaur' timestamp='1360539757' post='1353475']
I dunno how long he'll be liking his job if they start trading away his oline.
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Well it's just the one piece at LT with McKinnie. However I guess McKinnie has informally talked with Harbaugh about returning. But there are going to be new faces in positions again, new young kids. Don't be surprised if we go with Reid at LG again, for some reason the FO likes him there...
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[quote name='The Raven' timestamp='1360540520' post='1353521']
Off topic, but LOL at the comments. Some of those guys are just dumb!!!
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Even more damning is how often the dumbest comments get the most thumbs ups. I can't stand that site.
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I hate reading comments where people say "Most of the people in Baltimore wanted him gone mid season last year".

It just really makes me mad.
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[quote name='berad' timestamp='1360541614' post='1353588']
I stopped going to PFT. Hack writers and miserable commenters don't deserve my time/traffic
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+1000000000. Seriously. Everyone who posts on that site are trolls it seems. Whether that's the writers or commenters
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1360544163' post='1353737']
I hate reading comments where people say "Most of the people in Baltimore wanted him gone mid season last year".

It just really makes me mad.
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Those people are ridiculous anyway. They're probably the same people that keep claiming Eli Manning only has 2 Superbowl rings because he's lucky. Most people discredit Joe because he doesn't put up numbers, and that's their only argument against him.
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The thing that amuses me about fans is the way some of us say things like "I was just critical of him so he would play better" as though that had any impact on his play. Silly rabbits.
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[quote name='Bltravens' timestamp='1360535050' post='1353329']
There's nothing to really worry about, Flacco will be a Raven. If Ozzie has to slap the exclusive on him at the cost of losing Kruger, Williams, Reed, McKinnie etc then he's going to do it. But Flacco will be a Raven for the next 5+ years.

It is interesting to note that teams were ready to put all their chips into the Flacco camp even though the media thought he was nothing more than middling QB.
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That's because smart teams and smart GMs actually understand the concept that if the offensive playcalling is bad, the quarterback will look bad. Seems like most fans and media types have yet to grasp this fact.
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So perhaps I'm way off base here, but, wouldn't Flacco have to agree to any deal offered? I really don't think he WANTS to leave Baltimore.
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[quote name='Ravens<3' timestamp='1360544163' post='1353737']
I hate reading comments where people say "Most of the people in Baltimore wanted him gone mid season last year".

It just really makes me mad.
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It should make you mad, because it's true. And these people go on other websites and call in to radio shows and are representing Ravens fans on a national level.
It embarrasses me, because I don't want to be judged as another "whiny, simple-minded Ravens fan."
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