2013 Forum Draft: Cuts

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1361140332' post='1360171']
what sort of sham would it be of you cut someone and then can just change your mind. It's not even going to a vote. Once someone's cut they stay cut. If you want them back you have to bid against everyone else.
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I agree. It just doesn't make sense. I mean, would you cut someone to get under the cap, try to trade for a player, not get them, then un-cut a guy? First of all, it would be messy. Second of all, it would get old fast. People trade players a lot as it is. I can't imagine being able to undo cuts, too. You just have to trade players before you cut them to get value if you can.

I would vote against being able to un-cut a player. I wasn't serious suggesting we do this, Flaccopoe. I was more or less saying it would be nice to have the player back to trade them. Lol.

[gabefergy]

[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1361139550' post='1360140']
Are you kidding?! He got 5 turnovers, 14 passes defended, and 94 tackles!
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He also let up over 1,000 yards in passing when targeted. Ridiculously bad numbers.

[flaccopoe]

[quote name='gabefergy' timestamp='1361140531' post='1360184']
He also let up over 1,000 yards in passing when targeted. Ridiculously bad numbers.
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That only averages to 62.5 ypg. I'm taking a leap of faith on him, I know. But so is the team that's going to wind up with Revis.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1361140442' post='1360181']


Teams do it in real life!
[/quote]yes, but every other team could sign that player also, in other words they go into the free agent pool.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1361140314' post='1360170']
He's around the same age as Revis. I'm confient he'll work hard in the gym this offseason to get back in tip-top shape for his new team.
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He's only three years older but Revis is still infinitely better and has the physicality to transition to safety in need be later in his career.

[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1361140685' post='1360189']
That only averages to 62.5 ypg. I'm taking a leap of faith on him, I know. But so is the team that's going to wind up with Revis.
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He also missed 13 tackles during the year and racked up 8 penalties.

Revis isn't on the block.

[flaccopoe]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1361140857' post='1360198']
He's only three years older but Revis is still infinitely better and has the physicality to transition to safety in need be later in his career.



He also missed 13 tackles during the year and racked up 8 penalties.

Revis isn't on the block.
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I thought the Jets had to restructure Revis' contract?

DeAngelo Hall: born 11/19/1983
Darell Revis: born 7/14/1985

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1361141713' post='1360228']


I thought the Jets had to restructure Revis' contract?

DeAngelo Hall: born 11/19/1983
Darell Revis: born 7/14/1985
[/quote]doesnt that make Revis younger and therefore hall older?

[flaccopoe]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1361141791' post='1360231']
doesnt that make Revis younger and therefore hall older?
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Ed Reed said he was 3 years older. He's only 2.5 years older.

What team are you?

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1361141713' post='1360228']
I thought the Jets had to restructure Revis' contract?

DeAngelo Hall: born 11/19/1983
Darell Revis: born 7/14/1985
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They don't. Revis is under contract this year; the final two years of his deal can be voided as long as he doesn't hold out this summer.

My mistake but my point still stands. Hall can make plays but speed was always his greatest strength. Revis can still be a solid player for many more years.

[flaccopoe]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1361142164' post='1360243']
They don't. Revis is under contract this year; the final two years of his deal can be voided as long as he doesn't hold out this summer.

My mistake but my point still stands. Hall can make plays but speed was always his greatest strength. Revis can still be a solid player for many more years.
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What do you want to bet he holds out again?! And we don't know how he'll recovery from his ACL tear.

[arnie_uk]

[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1361141868' post='1360235']


Ed Reed said he was 3 years older. He's only 2.5 years older.

What team are you?
[/quote]awh didn't see that, u thought you said revis was older. I'm denver why? Interested in anyone? Champ is on the block for the right price, pm if interested.

[Ed_Reed20]

[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1361142271' post='1360247']
What do you want to bet he holds out again?! And we don't know how he'll recovery from his ACL tear.
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Did you read what I wrote? If he holds out, he'd lock himself up through 2016 at only $3 million annually. Don't believe me? [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/25/holdout-definitely-isnt-an-option-for-revis/"]Link[/url]

He'll be rusty and most likely won't be as good as he was in '09 or '11, but he'll still be above average

[flaccopoe]

[quote name='arnie_uk' timestamp='1361142599' post='1360251']
awh didn't see that, u thought you said revis was older. I'm denver why? Interested in anyone? Champ is on the block for the right price, pm if interested.
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After he got grilled by the Ravens in the playoffs?! [size=4] [/size][size=4] But I do need O-linemen.[/size]

[flaccopoe]

[quote name='Ed_Reed20' timestamp='1361142635' post='1360253']
Did you read what I wrote? If he holds out, he'd lock himself up through 2016 at only $3 million annually. Don't believe me? [url="http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/25/holdout-definitely-isnt-an-option-for-revis/"]Link[/url]

He'll be rusty and most likely won't be as good as he was in '09 or '11, but he'll still be above average
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Damn, I guess he won't be holding out this year!

[ravefan52]

[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1361138614' post='1360116']
Have fun bidding on Prince Amukamara. You'll probably end up spending at least 9 stars, when you could've traded a 2 star player for him.
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Have fun not having another 2nd round pick.

[flaccopoe]

[quote name='ravefan52' timestamp='1361144634' post='1360281']
Have fun not having another 2nd round pick.
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3rd round, more like it.

[ravefan52]

[quote name='flaccopoe' timestamp='1361144717' post='1360282']
3rd round, more like it.
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I would have given a late 2nd

[flaccopoe]

[quote name='ravefan52' timestamp='1361144863' post='1360284']
I would have given a late 2nd
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Now you tell me! [size=4] [/size]

[ZIBBY28]

[color=#000080][font=comic sans ms,cursive][i][size=7][b]St. Louis Rams[/b][/size][/i][/font][/color]

ERFA:
Tim Barnes – C - .5

[b][u]+0.5s[/u][/b]

CUTS:
Scott Wells – C - 4.5 Stars
Wayne Hunter – RT – 4 Stars
Matthew Mulligan – TE – 1 star
Chase Reynolds – RB - .5 Star
Nicholas Johnson – WR - .5 Star
Raymond Radway – WR - .5 Star
Matt Daniels – S - .5 Star
Corey Harkey – TE - .5 Star

[b][u]-12s[/u][/b]

[Mt. Crushmore]

Buffalo Bills cut:

K Rian Lindell - 2 stars
OT Stephen Goodwin - 0.5 stars

Total saved: 2.5 stars

[GrimCoconut]

Bironas' franchise tag is not 3 Stars--it's 4.5 Stars due to him being paid higher than the 3 Stars in 2012. Thus, his tag goes up 120% and is now 4.5 Stars, but he remains tagged & is not available for negotiation.

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

San Diego Chargers will NOT be using the Franchise Tag

San Diego Chargers [i]RFA[/i] tender:

[size=4]Danario Alexander with a 2nd round tender (2 stars) [/size]

[size=4]ERFA Tender:[/size]
[size=4]Richard Goodman (.5 stars)[/size]

San Diego Chargers Cut:

WR Eddie Royal - 3 stars
LB Takeo Spikes - 3 stars
SS Atari Bigby - 1 star
DT Antonio Garay - 3.5 stars
WR Mike Willie - .5 stars
S Sean Cattouse - .5 stars
LB Donald Butler - 1.5 stars
CB Greg Gatson - .5 stars
TE Ladarius Green - .5 stars

Total Cut: 14 stars

Total Saved: 11.5 stars

[Mt. Crushmore]

[quote name='BALTIMOREFLACCO' timestamp='1361210860' post='1361077']
San Diego Chargers will NOT be using the Franchise Tag

San Diego Chargers [i]RFA[/i] tender:

[size=4]Danario Alexander with a 2nd round tender (2 stars) [/size]

[size=4]ERFA Tender:[/size]
[size=4]Richard Goodman (.5 stars)[/size]

San Diego Chargers Cut:

WR Eddie Royal - 3 stars
LB Takeo Spikes - 3 stars
SS Atari Bigby - 1 star
DT Antonio Garay - 3.5 stars
WR Mike Willie - .4 stars
S Sean Cattouse - .4 stars
LB Donald Butler - 1.3 stars
CB Greg Gatson - .4 stars
TE Ladarius Green - .4 stars

Total Cut: 13.4 stars

Total Saved: 10.9 stars
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Round everything to the nearest 0.5 star. It makes it easier to do.

[Challenge Accepted]

Buccaneers Tag: Michael Bennett(11 stars) & place a Original Rd Tender on Both LeGarrett Blount(1.5s) and Daniel Te'o-Nesheim(1.5s)

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Challenge Accepted' timestamp='1361212514' post='1361107']
Buccaneers Tag:[b] Michael Bennett[/b](11 stars) & place a Original Rd Tender on Both LeGarrett Blount(1.5s) and Daniel Te'o-Nesheim(1.5s)
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[b]I HATE YOU![/b]

[Mt. Crushmore]

[quote name='Challenge Accepted' timestamp='1361212514' post='1361107']
Buccaneers Tag: Michael Bennett(11 stars) & place a Original Rd Tender on Both LeGarrett Blount(1.5s) and Daniel Te'o-Nesheim(1.5s)
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Blount was a UDFA and can't have an original round tender.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Mt. Crushmore' timestamp='1361212695' post='1361116']
Blount was a UDFA and can't have an original round tender.
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Why not? It's ROFR. I thought teams did that.

[Challenge Accepted]

[quote name='Mt. Crushmore' timestamp='1361212695' post='1361116']
Blount was a UDFA and can't have an original round tender.
[/quote]Thanks for the heads up.

[GrimCoconut]

[quote name='Challenge Accepted' timestamp='1361212793' post='1361119']
Thanks for the heads up.
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Man, I really wanted Bennett. One of my favorite players. First Byrd, not Bennett. This makes me sad.

[Mt. Crushmore]

[quote name='GrimCoconut' timestamp='1361212735' post='1361118']
Why not? It's ROFR. I thought teams did that.
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You can't get original round draft pick compensation if he was never drafted.